As on L2's 6th Birthday passes....

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So for the first time since launch back on April 28th, 2004 there is anniversary event.

1st Anniversary April 28th - May 1st 2005 - Event

2nd Anniversary March 23rd - March 28th 2006 - Event

3rd Anniversary April 11th - May 8th 2007 - Launch of Interlude/Event

4th Anniversary April 23rd - May 20th 2008 - Launch of Hellbound/Event

5th Anniversary April 28th - May 5th 2009 - Event

6th Anniversary - Oh guess we don't count them no more.

It is a shame and it no fault of Sace of even HGMWill and Moxi. It seems NA NCSoft has written off this game and just leaves the lights on. I know working in the public sector and having all the ideas in the world but nor the power to do it can frustrate some of L2 staff in NA.

I actually understand they truly want to give us the best experience or at least give us that impression. However with a deep budget cut as seen over the last week with the slow lethargic response to one my clannies getting hacked it is apparent they are at a minimum staffing level now. Over last weekend it seems at times there was only one GM on duty and rightfully so he (she) can't be on all the servers at the same even for emergencies.

It is pretty sad when someone has hacked your account and they have had unrestricted free access to it for over a week because of the slow process it is taking for the staff to go over my clannies info. Lets be serious HGMWill and Sace this game is over 6 years old, if you being playing for 6 years still expect anyone to know the original credit card number they used on the game? Or the original time card? Even the IRS with your taxes only expects 7 years of documentation and that involves your freedom lol.

So with a heavy heart I will be with L2 until they downsize the power budget and turn the lights off because of lack of options I stick with my friends here.
The lights are on but nobody's home.
I actually understand they truly want to give us the best experience or at least give us that impression. However with a deep budget cut as seen over the last week with the slow lethargic response to one my clannies getting hacked it is apparent they are at a minimum staffing level now. Over last weekend it seems at times there was only one GM on duty and rightfully so he (she) can't be on all the servers at the same even for emergencies.

It is pretty sad when someone has hacked your account and they have had unrestricted free access to it for over a week because of the slow process it is taking for the staff to go over my clannies info. Lets be serious HGMWill and Sace this game is over 6 years old, if you being playing for 6 years still expect anyone to know the original credit card number they used on the game? Or the original time card? Even the IRS with your taxes only expects 7 years of documentation and that involves your freedom lol.

So with a heavy heart I will be with L2 until they downsize the power budget and turn the lights off because of lack of options I stick with my friends here.

hi there,

i can understand your angry but i ll strongly recomend u to be patient.

i know how you feel every day without a solution to your friend problem.

believe me,i was in same possition,but not anymore :D

just give some time,and u ll find a solution:)
I prolly will stay with L2 as long as they mass erase all the memories of L2

WorldWideL2 folder**** chick kabooom erased***

* Guys i was trying to get in L2 and they said such thing dont exist anymore QQ*

*OMG! did u hear the news? L2 folder got erased from WWW server*

*Gm ladies and gentelmen, Breaking news of the Humanity, L2 folder was erased today at 6 am from wordwidewebnets. I belive our life is getting tougher, And that its for today see you all later*

wow i dont even know what i wrote here....
eee....rr........oooo........r......rr...r.r....r.

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ftfy
Anyone know if Korea had an event when their anniversary was? (i guess 6 months ago maybe?)
L2 is the black sheep for NCSoft... and it is only the black sheep.. because it was forgotten by the Support teams...
So for the first time since launch back on April 28th, 2004 there is anniversary event.

1st Anniversary April 28th - May 1st 2005 - Event

2nd Anniversary March 23rd - March 28th 2006 - Event

3rd Anniversary April 11th - May 8th 2007 - Launch of Interlude/Event

4th Anniversary April 23rd - May 20th 2008 - Launch of Hellbound/Event

5th Anniversary April 28th - May 5th 2009 - Event

6th Anniversary - Oh guess we don't count them no more.

It is a shame and it no fault of Sace of even HGMWill and Moxi. It seems NA NCSoft has written off this game and just leaves the lights on. I know working in the public sector and having all the ideas in the world but nor the power to do it can frustrate some of L2 staff in NA.

I actually understand they truly want to give us the best experience or at least give us that impression. However with a deep budget cut as seen over the last week with the slow lethargic response to one my clannies getting hacked it is apparent they are at a minimum staffing level now. Over last weekend it seems at times there was only one GM on duty and rightfully so he (she) can't be on all the servers at the same even for emergencies.

It is pretty sad when someone has hacked your account and they have had unrestricted free access to it for over a week because of the slow process it is taking for the staff to go over my clannies info. Lets be serious HGMWill and Sace this game is over 6 years old, if you being playing for 6 years still expect anyone to know the original credit card number they used on the game? Or the original time card? Even the IRS with your taxes only expects 7 years of documentation and that involves your freedom lol.

So with a heavy heart I will be with L2 until they downsize the power budget and turn the lights off because of lack of options I stick with my friends here.


Well i do want to say somthing on that behalf
when a budget gets cut its one thing
But when the staff also is in the "quitting mood" because of the set back
that's real bad, i been in the same situation, and there's only one solution

show NC soft Korea that L2 is not dead, but it has one serious flaw
it's not being advertised, and like annything in america or europe
wich u dont advertise for, it gets forgotten by new things

i'm already hearing from People on Aion that they are thinking its a much
faster levle up game, better quests, but like annything that's too easy
it dies faster out too

Aion shurely wont have the bigger life span L2 has already.
Graphically Aion is a step back from L2 too.
And in stores here in Belgium u already cant find anny Aion annymore
they already took it out all of the stores, while L2 is still there!
But no one knows L2, so it kinda is a vicious circle

in conclusion: GM staff revolt urselves
shout scream do what u wanna but u have to gt heard
or they gonne keep ****** on u'r heads

Show them America got a big pair
Same thing happened with everquest. The game was "dying" for years and they were downsizing. It got to the point where the only ones who cared about the game were the players. Of course then the lightbulb finally turned on that the sub decline basically flatlined between retro players coming back, a few news, and the normal attrition of people growing up and becoming to busy to sink time. That was the point where they started sinking more resources into the game because longevity = player base = easily budgetable game where you can efficiently allocate resources.

On the flip side we could always hope for the Korean Won to take a big hit so our sub dollars artifically grow!
..throw a google translation on that and push it out to NA!
What i wonder is this :

Is it NC america or NC korea wanting to close this down

it shure doesnt look like the game is even close to dying in korea
their events get bigger each time, they get the 6th aniversary event
they get ral events, so i really dont think the plug is pulled in korea

But i think the main problem is that the american funding from
korea to america has been downsized not to say the monney
totally cut off and on their own

then once more :

Solution = advertising = more new players = more monney

U got to invest to make a product work
nothing for free
cant you just play lineage2? or do we need a event every 15 days to burn off some of the adha tweaks for ya?
What i wonder is this :

Is it NC america or NC korea wanting to close this down

it shure doesnt look like the game is even close to dying in korea
their events get bigger each time, they get the 6th aniversary event
they get ral events, so i really dont think the plug is pulled in korea

But i think the main problem is that the american funding from
korea to america has been downsized not to say the monney
totally cut off and on their own

then once more :

Solution = advertising = more new players = more monney

U got to invest to make a product work
nothing for free

I'm pretty sure there IS money but they're just too greedy apparently...

Why does this remind me of the situation in Greece...? :rolleyes:
I'm pretty sure there IS money but they're just too greedy apparently...

Why does this remind me of the situation in Greece...? :rolleyes:

When your primary industry is ocean freight and you have a world wide recession the proverbial sit tends to hit the fan.
The bad part is that NCK gets the 6th Anniversy event, but we get nothing....

Makes ya wonder if NCK even cares anymore for NCNA...

/sad panda is sad
The bad part is that NCK gets the 6th Anniversy event, but we get nothing....

Makes ya wonder if NCK even cares anymore for NCNA...

/sad panda is sad

They only care about NA when it comes to protection against NK!
Solution = advertising = more new players = more monney


They apparently don't want more money :( I bought the 4th anniversary box and applied the free time to my main account. Then later when I wanted to use it to create a 3rd account, they said I couldn't because I already used it :confused:

I even wrote back "you don't want my extra $16 per month for a third account?" and the answer was the same. :p Would seem to me to flex their silly "rule" a little would have gained them $16/month x however long I will be playing (been here since beta). Doh!!!! I didn't know that applying the time would mean I couldn't use the box I bought for an account ><
Its not like a Event would cost billions of $$ to prepare!
Every GM on a freeshard can run Events as he likes to.

And to the GM's: Nothing says more forget you as to say nothing.
they don't care about L2 anymore, they are milking this cow as much as they can until it dies....they never did care about the players in the first place, it is and it will be always about the money...they are trying to get as much as they can with low costs.

And when I say low costs, I mean everything from not taking the time to make a decent web page with a library to allowing bots to rule the game or the lack of in game support.....no advertising, no nothing....just cash in and sleep tight


so that would explain the lack of a decent event during the last months....it's pretty simple how it works...throw a good event once 4-5 months (like the vitality event) and then let them sleep happy for a while and nobody will say a thing...
And as always, no response from the Managers unless it's time to lock up the threads.
You guys really expecting NCsoft to respond every time someone cries a little?
And as always, no response from the Managers unless it's time to lock up the threads.

Redneck I see you made a collage of your face as your signature, you look very cute as britney spears.
You guys really expecting NCsoft to respond every time someone cries a little?

Its not crying, it is holding NC soft to the expectations that they themselves have set in the past.
WoW Sace took his time to edit my post in here, but wont post here :D
WoW Sace took his time to edit my post in here, but wont post here :D

because she has nothing to add to the conversation. Obviously we are not getting an event, and won't admit that she has failed as a community manager. I would be interested to see NCNA internal/external audit reports for their customer service department.
because she has nothing to add to the conversation. Obviously we are not getting an event, and won't admit that she has failed as a community manager. I would be interested to see NCNA internal/external audit reports for their customer service department.

As she has nothing to to with the events, why has she failed as a CM ?
Vesper Weapon Giveaway Event...

Is that a event?
As she has nothing to to with the events, why has she failed as a CM ?

EXACTLY - why it is her fault that there is no event?
hi there,

i can understand your angry but i ll strongly recomend u to be patient.

i know how you feel every day without a solution to your friend problem.

believe me,i was in same possition,but not anymore :D

just give some time,and u ll find a solution:)
qft...you remind me of this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c16NYQPV3f4
Vesper Weapon Giveaway Event...

Is that a event?

It is a nice reward, but I would not actually call sending mail to a GM/CM an event. lol
Lots of profanity edits you would figure that would be a clue that people were a tad angry...imho kkthxbye
Now would all be more happy if it turned out that they are so busy fixing the Freya PTS that they couldent manage to do a event now but decided that they would give one when Freya was launched ?

...
any1 here knows the exatly day of the anniversary event?
any1 here knows the exatly day of the anniversary event?

Soon! QFT!!! /ncsoft classic response off
ok guys dont give us any 6th anniversary event but would be nice to get Freya update for that :>
Lots of profanity edits you would figure that would be a clue that people were a tad angry...imho kkthxbye


I think it was more censorship than editing profanity.
The game isn't dying at all, it's simply dead, and we're privy to the after-life of a once great mmo.
We read and hear fantastical murmurings of a grandiose L2 Korea or Russia, similar to the magnitude of nothing less than the Roman empire no less. All the while being just as impossibly distant, tasting nothing of it's glory, save perhaps it's inevitable ruination and doom.

We're all just swimming through the decaying corpse of a dead game, itself swimming through the black abyss of the internet, governed by a cold, malevolent entity who's interests couldn't be more remote...

People need to come to terms.
You guys really expecting NCsoft to respond every time someone cries a little?

when i say bad things about blond swedish they alway respond me :)
ok guys dont give us any 6th anniversary event but would be nice to get Freya update for that :>

For some reason I have been thinking this is the reason why no 6th anniversary event, MABYE the event was going to the Freya PTS, but since it took a little longer in NCK they could not release it as planned.
For some reason I have been thinking this is the reason why no 6th anniversary event, MABYE the event was going to the Freya PTS, but since it took a little longer in NCK they could not release it as planned.

And then Moses said let my PEOPLE GO!!!!
when i say bad things about blond swedish they alway respond me :)

Maybe they have their attention called to it by someone? :D
Redneck I see you made a collage of your face as your signature, you look very cute as britney spears.
Isnt it cool? Im a hermaphrodite chameleon. I can be whichever gender or skin color I want. Look at all my faces in my sigs plz thx
:D

ftfy

Daniel H. C. the Ghost Dancer ...

:p we all recognized you ...
Another year of l2 and no event is bit sad, looks like ppl said before NCsoft not care much about their players..

but..i can live w/o event its np..but more sad is No1 from Gms, HGM's or Even Comunity Gms answered in this thread yet, and no1 explained us why..

ps
in past we had so many events letters, vital, and other even like pumpkin, if Ncsoft dont have ideaa what to do on 6year of l2..do again event we had in past
if you go to the events page you can clearly see that we get an event about every 2 months with a contest thrown in every 3-4 months. if you ignore the vesper giveaway, then the last event was the april fools event. this means the next scheduled event would be in June. Thats a long time to keep up the whining. stock up on tissues or you wont make until then. I seriously wonder if you have tantrums like this in real life when you dont get what you want.
vesper thing is no event, only 1 day, i dont call it a event, if it was 1 week ok :)
if you go to the events page you can clearly see that we get an event about every 2 months with a contest thrown in every 3-4 months. if you ignore the vesper giveaway, then the last event was the april fools event. this means the next scheduled event would be in June. Thats a long time to keep up the whining. stock up on tissues or you wont make until then. I seriously wonder if you have tantrums like this in real life when you dont get what you want.

It's not whining all we want is an answer as to why the historic expectations were not met this year for both easter and anniversary. If the answer is simply we did not have the resources to do the translation then that is perfectly fine. But we are at least owed an answer. there wont be an end to peoples questions until an answer is given because there is a gaping unknown at this point.
Actually it is fairly surprising that there is no anni event. I mean, this SHOULD be the event they do every year.
maybe in EU/NA b/date is different :P so we wait longer...
maybe they don't do events since they think they are all too old and there are no new ones ...

imo old events where you could get stuff or sell the event items to the rich people were very useful because they allowed new players to earn some starting capital.

all you need is to update prizes. for example last year we got event with attribute stones. this year attribute crystals would be relevant. And some epics are always relevant, people buy event items like crazy if there is even 0.00000000001% chance to get one (correction:sans AQ/core/orfen, seems like no one wants one anymore).

right now new player is frustrated since there is no way to earn any decent funds to keep going.
It's not whining all we want is an answer as to why the historic expectations were not met this year for both easter and anniversary. If the answer is simply we did not have the resources to do the translation then that is perfectly fine. But we are at least owed an answer. there wont be an end to peoples questions until an answer is given because there is a gaping unknown at this point.

+1

Communication pls
It's not whining all we want is an answer as to why the historic expectations were not met this year for both easter and anniversary. If the answer is simply we did not have the resources to do the translation then that is perfectly fine. But we are at least owed an answer. there wont be an end to peoples questions until an answer is given because there is a gaping unknown at this point.

+1 at all..
Well, at least there where many item related skills with sayins about the 6th birthday in the skillviewer. Dunno why we didnt get any event if even there were implemented stuff for it.
It's not whining all we want is an answer as to why the historic expectations were not met this year for both easter and anniversary. If the answer is simply we did not have the resources to do the translation then that is perfectly fine. But we are at least owed an answer. there wont be an end to peoples questions until an answer is given because there is a gaping unknown at this point.

That was very well said - NC should have learned by now, to just come clean and say what the reason why we did not get a 6th Ann. event.
Will the Summer event and the Anniversary event be combined, maybe, possibly, perhaps, ya think????
Its not like a Event would cost billions of $$ to prepare!
Every GM on a freeshard can run Events as he likes to.

And to the GM's: Nothing says more forget you as to say nothing.

1 event = 1 korean crew of about 5 developpers 2 designers
a handfull of graphic designers, a couple hardcore programmers

working for about 5 - 6 weeks on the designs and interactions
ingame.

cost of that , hell yeah a lot of dollars , those people cost a load
of monney, like 2 BIG grant a month!


But, in korea they get the event , so the problem lies here in america

and in america that would be this team :
1 networkmanager
1 Programmer from NC soft korea
1 Programmer from NC soft america
1Translator for the programmers (maybe a second for the ingame texting)
1staff instructor for the GM's to tell them from korea to NA what the
event is all about and how to manage it and deal with issue's arround it.


so u'd say 5 persons ?
big deal ?

they may have to work like 2 weeks to get an event ready
and yes
they also get payed a big 2 grant a month
so u'r looking at a 10 grant cost per event
that's a lot of monney for an event
thats presuming its a "new" event.

they have re-used the "Squash" event enough times in the past.
1 event = 1 korean crew of about 5 developpers 2 designers
a handfull of graphic designers, a couple hardcore programmers

working for about 5 - 6 weeks on the designs and interactions
ingame.

cost of that , hell yeah a lot of dollars , those people cost a load
of monney, like 2 BIG grant a month!


But, in korea they get the event , so the problem lies here in america

and in america that would be this team :
1 networkmanager
1 Programmer from NC soft korea
1 Programmer from NC soft america
1Translator for the programmers (maybe a second for the ingame texting)
1staff instructor for the GM's to tell them from korea to NA what the
event is all about and how to manage it and deal with issue's arround it.


so u'd say 5 persons ?
big deal ?

they may have to work like 2 weeks to get an event ready
and yes
they also get payed a big 2 grant a month
so u'r looking at a 10 grant cost per event
that's a lot of monney for an event


What sweatshop do these programmers (stated in your post) work for that all those people combined only make $2,000.00 a month???????????????
What sweatshop do these programmers (stated in your post) work for that all those people combined only make $2,000.00 a month???????????????

He forgets to add how much income they have a month.

Think this 80k active accounts at $15.00 per month = $1.2 million a month income.

$10,000 a month is a drop in the bucket.

If I had to guess for energy cost and service maybe cost them $100k to run the servers.

Leaving $1.1 million a month profit never mind all the etc. services you can purchase. If they have more then 150k a month in salaries I would be shocked. So your talking still close to $1 million a month profit easily.

So $10k even $25k would be nothing.
it only hurts ncsoft to remain silent on why we didnt get a aniversary event if u ask me, or makes them look worce