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ehh alot of ppl have been posting and asking "Is lineage 2 dead?" ever since 2009, i mean lol really, what happend to L2?? look at bartz and phoenix .... Giran is nearly like a ghost town, and dont even mention about the chat-box, no one is even spamming the "WTS/B/T" messages. i mean even actual players are like stones- I said "hi"....no reply. I said "TY" after they buffed me...no reply". I PKed....they said "-_-" (im sure they are not bots).....OMG at least give me some flame wars .......

I wanted to go on Teon but I dont speak any of the euro language lol(other than english), would even be worse than a ghost town XD.

wow lol did i just waste $15 reactivating my account?
im on teon and only speak english and i have no problem so come over and give it a try
phoenix .... Giran is nearly like a ghost town
You must be lagging heavily then.
ehh alot of ppl have been posting and asking "Is lineage 2 dead?" ever since 2009, i mean lol really, what happend to L2?? look at bartz and phoenix .... Giran is nearly like a ghost town, and dont even mention about the chat-box, no one is even spamming the "WTS/B/T" messages. i mean even actual players are like stones- I said "hi"....no reply. I said "TY" after they buffed me...no reply". I PKed....they said "-_-" (im sure they are not bots).....OMG at least give me some flame wars .......

I wanted to go on Teon but I dont speak any of the euro language lol(other than english), would even be worse than a ghost town XD.

wow lol did i just waste $15 reactivating my account?

people have been complaining that Lineage 2 is dying since 2005, the game aint dead, Pheonix or Teon take a pick if player base is the biggest concern.
also i think it needs to be stated that now the game is in 2 phases.

1. no one really parties outside of clan therefore no real interaction ne more. I myself have 4 accts and carry my own buffs and support so no need for interaction with others


2. game really starts after 76 now. Lots of interaction when u get higher lvls. Pk wars over xp spots, clan wars, seiges territory wars, all are built for 76+ now. Basically this has turned into a solo till 76 game.


The only other thing i can suggest is that u can do some instances now call kamaloakas(speling?) these are up to 9 man raid bosses wich can be done 1/day per char. They give u interaction, big mob to kill, time dependant(must be done in 30 min) and are alot of fun.

Other one is 1 epic is instanced now. U can kill zaken with a 9 man group now and i have done him a few times in the last few weeks and its darned fun :)

hope this helps :)
The Lineage 2 game is not dying, if what i read on forums is true NCSoft is killing it.
they don't advertise the game, and have developed same features friendly bot, like manor .....
ehh alot of ppl have been posting and asking "Is lineage 2 dead?" ever since 2009, i mean lol really, what happend to L2?? look at bartz and phoenix .... Giran is nearly like a ghost town, and dont even mention about the chat-box, no one is even spamming the "WTS/B/T" messages. i mean even actual players are like stones- I said "hi"....no reply. I said "TY" after they buffed me...no reply". I PKed....they said "-_-" (im sure they are not bots).....OMG at least give me some flame wars .......

I wanted to go on Teon but I dont speak any of the euro language lol(other than english), would even be worse than a ghost town XD.

wow lol did i just waste $15 reactivating my account?

Yes
:) TP to giran wait 5-10 minutes then run around :)) disabled alt+p option, and yes as said before NC killing the game, well on other side u might think that NC got rid of all 3rd party users and thats why its so empty ))) sometimes u want them to return....ur lolipop i mean :P
My server (Sayha) is alive and well with a growing population of transfers, returning players and new ones.
eh ty for the info lol, i guess im just not on the correct zone yet ^.^.
oh and also i dont lag at all its just that 2yrs ago in giran the Center zone(in front of einhasad temple) was "full" of Shops, but yesterday....lol only 1/4 was full.

Oh and here is my laptop and internet connection info:

Intel centrino Core 2 Duo, 2.2GHz, 3GB memory
260HD space
ATI mobility Radeon HD 2600 Graphics with 512MB Memory

Eh i think if i have "major" lag with these hardwares and connection, then i highly doubt that any 1 could even play in L2 sieges......

I guess ill just stay on L2 now..^.^ cant really quit this game, maybe until Blade&Soul comes out next year.

Internet Speed:http://www.speedtest.net/result/812345992.png (http://www.speedtest.net/result/812345992.png%5B/IMG%5D%5B/URL%5D)

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The Lineage 2 game is not dying, if what i read on forums is true NCSoft is killing it.
they don't advertise the game, and have developed same features friendly bot, like manor .....

depends. I think activity in general is low, lower than ever, but it's not quite dead yet. Also people do keep coming back, many from Aion...

but in general I think the game is declining for sure, it's just slowly dying, but there's enough people for drama, so it keeps going...
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Also, it doesn't matter what your transfer speed is to the nearest speedtest hub. What matters is your speed going to the servers at NC Soft.
You must be lagging heavily then.
Indeed lag. I see lots of shouts and shops and annoying spam.
*lol yea it is a crappy upload speed....ehh not sure why"

sigh... the 2 above just dont seem to get the point. I have waited about 7 hours (set up my own shop, and went to sleep) woke up and still nearly the same amount of ppl in the town. I live in Vancouver Canada, and FYI you only see a major difference in connection speed if ur outta NA. Man u ppl must really get better computers or internet connections. O man i swear, I loaded all the shops at the town in 1min with Dial-Up connection before XD

The main point is that most ppl dont sell stuff any more, and the population in L2 is no doubt decreasing. Or maybe u are new to the game, cuz Bartz was full of "LFP/WTS/Flame-wars" shouts, and "lots lots lots" of shops at Giran/Goddard/Heine/Aden. 2-3yrs ago. sigh.....maybe its true that all the old players of L2 have quit...maybe i should too.
eh ty for the info lol, i guess im just not on the correct zone yet ^.^.
oh and also i dont lag at all its just that 2yrs ago in giran the Center zone(in front of einhasad temple) was "full" of Shops, but yesterday....lol only 1/4 was full.

Oh and here is my laptop and internet connection info:

Intel centrino Core 2 Duo, 2.2GHz, 3GB memory
260HD space
ATI mobility Radeon HD 2600 Graphics with 512MB Memory

Eh i think if i have "major" lag with these hardwares and connection, then i highly doubt that any 1 could even play in L2 sieges......

I guess ill just stay on L2 now..^.^ cant really quit this game, maybe until Blade&Soul comes out next year.

Internet Speed:http://www.speedtest.net/result/812345992.png (http://www.speedtest.net/result/812345992.png%5B/IMG%5D%5B/URL%5D)

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well i have to say thou your comp isnt all that powerful from what you posted
actually its because the speeds in NA are way lower then ne where else...
*lol yea it is a crappy upload speed....ehh not sure why"

sigh... the 2 above just dont seem to get the point. I have waited about 7 hours (set up my own shop, and went to sleep) woke up and still nearly the same amount of ppl in the town. I live in Vancouver Canada, and FYI you only see a major difference in connection speed if ur outta NA. Man u ppl must really get better computers or internet connections. O man i swear, I loaded all the shops at the town in 1min with Dial-Up connection before XD

The main point is that most ppl dont sell stuff any more, and the population in L2 is no doubt decreasing. Or maybe u are new to the game, cuz Bartz was full of "LFP/WTS/Flame-wars" shouts, and "lots lots lots" of shops at Giran/Goddard/Heine/Aden. 2-3yrs ago. sigh.....maybe its true that all the old players of L2 have quit...maybe i should too.
Your computer is below average.
Your upload speed is laughable.
NCsoft has changed how shops load on your screen when you log in.
There are more shops in Giran on Phoenix than were on Hindemith.
And if you whine so much, the game is definitely not for you.
Your computer is below average.
Your upload speed is laughable.
NCsoft has changed how shops load on your screen when you log in.
There are more shops in Giran on Phoenix than were on Hindemith.
And if you whine so much, the game is definitely not for you.

why not? whining is the 2nd preferred language in Lineage 2 right after flaming O.O
The OP has started too early. I doubt he can last.
Your computer is below average.
Your upload speed is laughable.
NCsoft has changed how shops load on your screen when you log in.
There are more shops in Giran on Phoenix than were on Hindemith.
And if you whine so much, the game is definitely not for you.



um all i have to say that in this thread, "stupidity"(lol how ironic) is the only person with a brain and logic. Its so sad to see L2 is infested with re^.;ds. XD

LOL my comp is below avg?? lol u sure are the dumbest computer geek ever, and what kinda computer do u have? (laptop). hahah im not even getting any lags with my so-called below avg comp and my laggy internet, which means ur comp must be even worse than "below avg" since ur the one whining about lags. hey kid why dont u just stop typing ur insipid comments and quit showing how smart you are, because your really dumb ok....o man i seriously dont understand how u ppl actually have lag???? I dont even alt+p(medium settings) in sieges/towns and i just get just tiny lags, some ppl even say that they need 10min to load the whole certain range....lol??

and i dont even understand...how am i whining about this, im simply asking a question regarding Lineage 2's population thats all. there are always some loser-in-real-life ppl trying to show off on the virtual world(internet) by starting a flame war....

LOL we can continue this flame post if u want...good way to practice typing XD....maybe until some GM lock this. haha lets see who gets the last comment. woot havent had any flame wars in a long time.......I m allll fired up !!!!! XD pls reply to my post ASAP i cant w8 for the profanities to show up !!!!
First of all, the problem, while there are not as many people playing as there was long ago it was that you played, the way the game is now played has changed as well, making the Shops and people LFG semi obsolete now. If you are basing server populations on those 2 factors alone, you won't know the amount of people on the server.

The market for anything less then S grade has all but dried up. The number of shops therefore has also dried up. Not many people sit and waste weeks/months trying to sell some older gear for firesale prices. It is usually saved and loaned out to people, ect. Also the game has gone from Server based to more Ally based in terms of selling stuff, and looking for parties. I can't think of a time in the last 2 years I shouted for group. I do however litter my ally chat with LFG requests. If I don't get a party in ally, I solo. This is a very common occurance now. So no, the shops loading up in Giran being less is not the result of lag.

My comment about the speed of your connection going to the nearest Speedtest host, and not NC Softs servers, was due to a semi common problem I have seen. Can't explain it, but on occasion, people on the west coast, from BC to California seem to experience lag at the exact same time. People in other parts of the world are not affected. This happens to people on different ISP's ect, but the fact you are in this area made me make the comment about it.

As for your computer specs. Looked like you were bragging about the speed of your computer, and the fact no computer with those specs should experience lag.

Quote: Eh i think if i have "major" lag with these hardwares and connection, then i highly doubt that any 1 could even play in L2 sieges"

Your specs aren't much to brag about. About the same specs as an entry level laptop. For people who play the game on Desktops, I doubt you would even be able to purchase a machine with those specs anymore, aside from maybe a place trying to get rid of old stock. You don't have to get uptight about it. I am sure it is a decent laptop, but you don't have to try to belittle people becuase they aren't impressed by your computer specs.
the game is far from dead, heck.. even if they shut it down completely ppl will play it on privs for a loooong time I bet on it. Some servers on the other hand, yes, they do look like they are abandoned ghost towns, at least comparing to what it was like 3 years ago. I said it once and I will keep saying: Merge all servers, make one US and one EU and thats it.
Your computer is better than most people pc's that plays this game. Heck, I even play on an old single core athlon 64 with 2GB DDR and I do fine on sieges. Your video card is also more than enough to handle L2 graphics.

I think your problem is with your upload speed. Indeed it's poor, according to the pic you posted. You should sue your ISP for offering such a nice download rate but a bad upload rate XD.
Your computer is below average.
Your upload speed is laughable.
NCsoft has changed how shops load on your screen when you log in.
There are more shops in Giran on Phoenix than were on Hindemith.
And if you whine so much, the game is definitely not for you.

-His upload speed is low for the download speed he gets, but still way more than L2 needs
(mine is 6.09 Mbps dl and 0.51 Mbps up for comparision)
-Unless he double box, his hardware is more than l2 can ever use in terms of RAM and gf card, processor clock speed always can be better, but Core Duo is quite enough. I used to play L2 on 1.6 GHz C2duo laptop without any problem, hell even old Athlon XP 1.8 GHz was good for anything except sieges.
Really... unless you consider array of SSD discs (cause such thing really helps in l2) an "average" hardware, there is nothing with his pc and connection that could cause below-average performance.
so...
ehh alot of ppl have been posting and asking "Is lineage 2 dead?" ever since 2009, i mean lol really, what happend to L2?? look at bartz and phoenix .... Giran is nearly like a ghost town, and dont even mention about the chat-box, no one is even spamming the "WTS/B/T" messages. i mean even actual players are like stones- I said "hi"....no reply. I said "TY" after they buffed me...no reply". I PKed....they said "-_-" (im sure they are not bots).....OMG at least give me some flame wars .......

I wanted to go on Teon but I dont speak any of the euro language lol(other than english), would even be worse than a ghost town XD.

wow lol did i just waste $15 reactivating my account?

No one is here but bots and NCSoft making money off of them IMHO....
ppl been saying it's dead for a long time. it's not dead till the servers power off.

but it HAS been dying for years, and now the very low number of active players is actually making game play pretty lame for most servers.
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Game has been said to be dying for years now...There will always be those who are never happy and complain and those who deal with what they get.

As long as the servers aren't powered down the game will continue with the player base that will stick to it till then.

I used your site link to test the speed and this would be my results (my pc is not the newest on the market. It's a Dell Dimension 4700 - from 2004 if I remember correct)

http://www.speedtest.net/result/822619564.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

I have a steady 178 ping onto the NA Sayha server (Yeah that's not low at all but I'm in Europe). Only time I lag seriously is on sieges.
LOL my comp is below avg?? lol u sure are the dumbest computer geek ever, and what kinda computer do u have? (laptop). hahah im not even getting any lags with my so-called below avg comp and my laggy internet, which means ur comp must be even worse than "below avg" since ur the one whining about lags. hey kid why dont u just stop typing ur insipid comments and quit showing how smart you are, because your really dumb ok....

very rude reply :eek:

....and your computer IS below average really.
My laptop has very similar stats as yours and it is 3 years old.

These days if you are running a 32-bit OS (< 4GB RAM) you are below average, I would say. That's nothing bad, it's just not what is out there these days, especially for gaming.
Though maybe most of us are still playing on last (few) year's models, probably are...
As I said, my laptop is similar - even a bit below yours in processor speed and video card - and it runs the game fine. I know I have trouble in other games with large groups though.

That said, I doubt that you're not seeing the shops because you're experiencing lag. Even with lag they should load with a short delay if you are in town for any length of time.
applepieisgood I think your pc is about average. Many "gamers" have 4 GB ram, striped RAID array (very important for pc speed), dual video cards, etc.

As far as the game dying, I remember at the end of Open Beta many said L2 would never last. After every chronicle that came out since ppl have screamed "game sucks, it's dying, bla bla bla". Fact is L2 is here today, has been out for 6 years, it's still the best MMORPG on the market despite the extremely poor advertising, many private servers which pull players directly from the official servers, inconsistent and overall below industry average job of the GM staff. L2 will remain as such until L3, Tera or another amazing game comes out. Like it or not we are stuck here.