Is it my imagination, or are archers on the path to becoming a dead class? Don't see nearly as many of them around as I used to. What gives? :confused:
They were nerfed into non-existance. They increased our range but our skills still have the same range whats the point of 1200 range when you cannot stun shot until your in 900 range?
SR have entangle cant use it unless your in 450 range
PR have hex/power break cant use it unless your in 450 range
Closer you are to us the worse damage we do.
They added a BD Dance and SWS song that stack just to protect against archers, where is the BD/SWS song dance combo for melee weapons or nukes?
Add on top that most melee classes can deflect our stun shot back to us is utterly ridiculous.
Almost all the new party areas require melee dd's not archers or nukers.
And finally Raid Bosses argo archers more then any other class regardless of the level of hate a tank has on it.
Is there any reason to play an archer? No they nerfed us into non-existence which get no worthwhile skills after 79. And for a DE no skills after 78
And finally Raid Bosses argo archers more then any other class regardless of the level of hate a tank has on it.
Are you seriously still using tanks for raidbosses? Is this C2? Try bringing 2 archer groups to a raid and watch the boss ping pong. However, who isn't titan parties to drop any of those bosses?
usual NCSoft stuff, archers WERE very overpowered, and then NCSoft started nerfing and did not know when to stop. They always overdo everything they do, and keep nerfing (or boosting) for 1-2 expansions AFTER the class is more or less ok.
Damage reduction in pvp killed us
Damage reduction in pve killed us
It still requires more support then any other class to make them good, so we are resorted to pulling trains for titans that a dagger can do better.
Figures. I stopped playing my Hawkeye after reaching 20% into S grade a few updates ago. Between not seeing any archers around, while noticing the unbelievably low prices for A and S grade bows in the market, I knew something was amiss.
Another fun class kneecapped by the nerf stick. Nice. Who's next?
I really have to apologize for the archer nerfs :o It's really all my fault. :/ Whatever class I choose to play as my main, they nerf bigtime... see my sig, my old main was a Prophet lol :(
I really have to apologize for the archer nerfs :o It's really all my fault. :/ Whatever class I choose to play as my main, they nerf bigtime... see my sig, my old main was a Prophet lol :(
Please never play your BH as your new main, the very fabric of time and space would be torn asunder when NCSoft goes to nerf dorfs and finds that they are un-nerfable.
Didn't there was some mentioning somewhere about making Dorf more economically viable in the future?
*Gash. Maybe dorf will finally be able to summon the lengendary, or mythical, "Adena Tree of Unlimited Wealth" to multiply their income! Part of the income from the tree can then use to purchase experience points. Therefore, the owner can sit down and level without ever set foot outside the town!!!! Who needs Raid Bosses when you can have money and experience/sp without risking your very life out there!
Are you seriously still using tanks for raidbosses? Is this C2? Try bringing 2 archer groups to a raid and watch the boss ping pong. However, who isn't titan parties to drop any of those bosses?
Is it my imagination, or are archers on the path to becoming a dead class? Don't see nearly as many of them around as I used to. What gives? :confused:
You arent currently playing your 80 Shillien saint, are you?
That could be really bad lol.
Not as main, no worries :p I just sneak and play her once in awhile hoping they don't notice ;)
Please never play your BH as your new main, the very fabric of time and space would be torn asunder when NCSoft goes to nerf dorfs and finds that they are un-nerfable.
lol, I have too many BH's to ever have one as a main :D Kinda wish I had an 80+ BH now tho, their popularity has skyrocketed! :eek:
So you just proved my point almost all raids are done with out Archers. Freya suggest nukers and titans.
Where does an archer fit in? They are not needed in regular parties, not need in raids, suck in olympiad see where this going?
It is also the reason why you see no more necros anymore.
Necro = Day of Doom, which is nice to have bubble for Frint, Tiat, and Baium. However, you only need one per raid. Most people chose the other nukers these days due to the vortex + buster combo.
im still arround playin my sagi as main, andi still believe that it's kinda an ok class with the proper gear; @ oly,make sure u have some talismans for extra mdef and u can actually win there.
For who can't get to normal epics,there r oly ones forstun and the tw ones (again for stun).
But yes, on the other hand yes, it's pity that they nerfed archers like that: i mean, when i started my main, in 2007 i could have archer party with my last clan, now, in the clan i am, kinda all archers rerolled, (changed main to sub) or quited. Im the only one left and i just came back from a period i thought ill quit l2. But not because the class,mostly bots andbot braggers, but that's another story.
In the end, yes, i think an archer with proper setup/gear, can still do ok. ppl who played/play archer should have patience, good things worth the w8
They added a BD Dance and SWS song that stack just to protect against archers, where is the BD/SWS song dance combo for melee weapons or nukes?
Looks like someone has a foggy memory.
Remember Resist Buff/Song/Dance stacking before the Attribute system?
Yeah, but the logical response to that is to fix the Tank skills.
But we are talking about NCSoft devs here, who overreact anytime something doesn't work the way they imagined.
And fix Robed class Defenses, and other light armor classes?
There was nothing right about an Archer being able to spam CPP/QHP in melee range and crit someone for 8k, just as there was nothing right about their crit dmg before DW was nerfed.
Furthermore, some of the Archer nerfs can be attributed to the fact that other classes (who aren't archers i.e. BDs) were too proficient with Bows. Those classes needed a bow nerf, and Archers got nerfed even more as a side product.
Necro = Day of Doom, which is nice to have bubble for Frint, Tiat, and Baium. However, you only need one per raid. Most people chose the other nukers these days due to the vortex + buster combo.
Yep. One PLvl'd 80 Soultaker Sub is enough :> Though, usually a serious class will have at least one main to take (or try to take) that hero slot.
You hardly see Necros anymore, because they have been nerfed into the ground, and no one wants to level a Dark Nuker in a game full of Dark Resist end-game XP Spots (with no decent AoE capability until level 83, and a Summon using C3 mechanics that has a duration/bad summon conditions/no attribute sharing).
Archers should be as unsuprised at their nerfs as Necros were at theirs.