Looking at some of the new skills coming up for all the classes im struggling to decide. Necro or Cardi? Im not so experienced with either but both seem exciting to me! Suggestions? Plz give reasons..:D
Looking at some of the new skills coming up for all the classes im struggling to decide. Necro or Cardi? Im not so experienced with either but both seem exciting to me! Suggestions? Plz give reasons..:D
What you mean? To choose which subs to roll? The best is to look which skills the subs give to your main char and to decide according to your playstyle.
The necro was effectively killed as a PVP char by NCSoft and the ultimate goal of the game is the PVP. He hasn't AOE nuke too.
The cardinal is extremely hard to raise if you don't have very close friends to play with them. When the cardinal is extremely high level he is the most important char on the server. Coz 1 cardinal = 1 constant party. But at the same time PVE is extremely tiresome and be ready to get killed zillions of times in the PVP. Also forget about being a hero.
cardinal, because it is no good day for necro now, maybe later necro will get mo love, but now necro in this forum are unhappy about their class and want reroll to summoner :)
These 2 classes are 2 different things,one is a healer and the other is a nuker.
Cardinal is not hard to raise anymore since inquistor mode makes him xp like a nuker on not hard to kill mobs,all you need is to have a se buffer or raise a kookabura pet with you.
If you want to choose between the two of them for a sub and the sub skills are ok for you from both,i would go necro if you dont plan to use the bishop as help in clan raids,cause necro is much more fun playing,he dominates the area he is with his skills,you cant run out of mp using bodytomind and herbs from the ground and you can pvp with him, with pet transfer pain he cant loose against anyone before 80+lvl(and after that you are one of the strongest dds again,unless high five update ruins the game).
Cardinal is not hard to raise anymore since inquistor mode makes him xp like a nuker on not hard to kill mobs,all you need is to have a se buffer or raise a kookabura pet with you.
Really? I bet you never tried to raise a cardinal with inquisitor skill, right? Coz readin about a skill and using it to raise a char are two different things.
Really? I bet you never tried to raise a cardinal with inquisitor skill, right? Coz readin about a skill and using it to raise a char are two different things.
I have leveled my cardinal with inquisitor self buffed with a kokkaburra and it isn't that bad. In areas with herbs I can grind for hours without running out of mp.
40-44 is a pain without inquisitor, but Hardins Academy is a good spot if you combine heaven't might with meleeing.
1-3 shoot mobs in Dragon Valley or around IT from 44-5x
1-3 shoot mobs in VoS or Field of Massacre from 5x to 6x
1-3 shoot mobs in FotD from 6x to 76
I have leveled my cardinal with inquisitor self buffed with a kokkaburra and it isn't that bad. In areas with herbs I can grind for hours without running out of mp.
40-44 is a pain without inquisitor, but Hardins Academy is a good spot if you combine heaven't might with meleeing.
1-3 shoot mobs in Dragon Valley or around IT from 44-5x
1-3 shoot mobs in VoS or Field of Massacre from 5x to 6x
1-3 shoot mobs in FotD from 6x to 76
76+ parties/hero rift
Oh and I used B grade weapon from 52 to 78
So you say you leveled a cardinal from lvl 44 lvl 76 alone (with kookabura) using inquisitor and raised the levels relatively quickly? If you confirm that i take my words back:-)
These 2 classes are 2 different things,one is a healer and the other is a nuker.
Cardinal is not hard to raise anymore since inquistor mode makes him xp like a nuker on not hard to kill mobs,all you need is to have a se buffer or raise a kookabura pet with you.
If you want to choose between the two of them for a sub and the sub skills are ok for you from both,i would go necro if you dont plan to use the bishop as help in clan raids,cause necro is much more fun playing,he dominates the area he is with his skills,you cant run out of mp using bodytomind and herbs from the ground and you can pvp with him, with pet transfer pain he cant loose against anyone before 80+lvl(and after that you are one of the strongest dds again,unless high five update ruins the game).
Corpse Burst is a joke and Vamp Mist isn't worth leveling to 83 for, considering how much fail they've sprinkled into the class over the first 82 levels.
Corpse Burst displays just how overpowered Attribute P.Atk is.
Witih double the power of a normal AoE, Corpse Burst can't even began to keep up with an Aqua Splash from an SPS with a Water Mace.
I have leveled my cardinal with inquisitor self buffed with a kokkaburra and it isn't that bad. In areas with herbs I can grind for hours without running out of mp.
40-44 is a pain without inquisitor, but Hardins Academy is a good spot if you combine heaven't might with meleeing.
1-3 shoot mobs in Dragon Valley or around IT from 44-5x
1-3 shoot mobs in VoS or Field of Massacre from 5x to 6x
1-3 shoot mobs in FotD from 6x to 76
76+ parties/hero rift
Oh and I used B grade weapon from 52 to 78
What kind of B Grade weapon did you use. It matters, because if you have a +9 SoV, you're basically using an A Grade weapon from B Grade to S Grade, which is abnormal - at least for new players. I tend to Grade weapons by M.Atk, not their icon, below S Grade (where Attribute becomes a factor).
Those are all 2 shot areas to Inquisitor, unless you have a rediculous weapon leveling up. We know mobs get 1 shot on Mage Crit. That doesn't make them 1-3 shot mobs. They're 2-3 shot mobs to inquisitor (precisely becuase Inquisitor M.Atk is lower than a nuker, and their nuke has a lower power than a Nuker - all elemental nukers get seed so Holy Weapon is not a factor).
Inquisitor will level slower than a Necro with or without a recharger.
A necro can CDL from 74 to 79 much faster than Inquisitor can solo.
At 78+ a nuker is only very slightly faster than Inquisitor, because of the way Dino is balanced.
I still wouldn't roll a Necro. There is Sorc, and they are decent. Roll that instead of a Necro if you want a nuker, and Bishop if you want a healer.
Don't listen to the idiots who talk about 83 PvE skills. Seriously... Just don't.
So you say you leveled a cardinal from lvl 44 lvl 76 alone (with kookabura) using inquisitor and raised the levels relatively quickly? If you confirm that i take my words back:-)
I did it in 3-4 months with casual game play
Oh and Tren:
I used a Wizards Tear +3 Acu (top B grade mage weapon)...and I still use it when I'm out soloing on Dino Island.
Dino is 3-4 shots to a Bishop with a +3 Wizard Tear.
Not everyone wants to waste money. A Holy Mace pays for itself over the course of one level, leveling there.
3-4 months is actually quite long to get to 78. You can do it on a Nuker with a Kook in one month at a leisurely pace. You just need to be able to upgrade your weapon from grade to grade (or borrow?). You can go from 52-76 in Avadon, np.
I think when we talk about leveling speed, it's time to forget 0-A Grade and look at it from a mid-high S Grade perspective. That is when differences in leveling speed began to matter. Everything short of a prophet can get to S Grade very fast...
Bishops have an advantage in that they are useful at a much lower level than most DDs and Support classes, though, from a PvE + PvP perspective.
Corpse Burst is a joke and Vamp Mist isn't worth leveling to 83 for, considering how much fail they've sprinkled into the class over the first 82 levels.
Corpse Burst displays just how overpowered Attribute P.Atk is.
Witih double the power of a normal AoE, Corpse Burst can't even began to keep up with an Aqua Splash from an SPS with a Water Mace.
How long have you not played your necro Trens?
Cause with my necro i aoed using corpse burst and vampiric mist at fog with just a bd and 2 rechargers and i soloed make trains all dino nest area with just se buffs.
The reason i complain in forums about new update skills is because as it is now vampiric mist always lands on mobs and almost never land on same lvl players,if i wear antharas too then it seems to land better.If they fix vampiric mist to land on pvps too(there's no note who says skill has reduced dmg on pvp anywhere,but all necros we have noticed that),then there will be no class able to kill from close distance a necro,since this skill has dot effect+mass critical.And given the fact slug is missing i cant see why mist isnt a kind of slug for necro even on 83lvl even with short range.
maybe you shouldn't even play lineage 2 since the forum is too hard for you to use and you make this in the wrong topic.
Apparently you dont understand the meaning of "General Topic" kid so butt out. You should quit gg.. :eek:
Anyway thank you all for the help! I appreciate the suggestions and reasons. :)
Really? I bet you never tried to raise a cardinal with inquisitor skill, right? Coz readin about a skill and using it to raise a char are two different things.
I have a cardinal too :) i have a se too who often went on inquistor mode and lvled my subs with her.
if they guy wants to lvl a sub and asks if it is possible to solo as cardi the answers is yes.
if the guy wants to sub a nuker,then cardinal is not a nuker,is a class that can lvl also using nukes.
How long have you not played your necro Trens?
I'm in game right now. Wanna cyber?
Cause with my necro i aoed using corpse burst and vampiric mist at fog with just a bd and 2 rechargers and i soloed make trains all dino nest area with just se buffs.
Please post a fraps of you soloing FoG trains on a Necro using Vamp Mist and Corpse Burst.
We all know how well M.Atk scales, so it's not like going from arcana mace to dynasty or dynasty to icarus/vesper is turning Corpse Burst into some rediculous AoE skill.
Making trains at Nest is nothing to be proud of. A Necro can turn his summon into a No-XP Servitor and keep it out just for the transfer pain. And pull trains there. I and the other Soultaker in clan pull trains in FoG all the time, as does an Arcana Lord.
FoG isn't hard if you XP in Dark Attack Areas with a Dark Resist set on. Corpse Burst is non-Attributed, and Vamp Mist is more clutch as a debuff than for its damage (although it has +1 Vortex Power).
I'm not saying you can't DO it. I'm wondering how efficiently [and how long] you can maintain it. Even with 2 rechargers. I know a Bounty Hunter can pole FoG all day without breaks with similar support (BD, SWS, SE or DC), so I'm curious.
The reason i complain in forums about new update skills is because as it is now vampiric mist always lands on mobs and almost never land on same lvl players,if i wear antharas too then it seems to land better.If they fix vampiric mist to land on pvps too(there's no note who says skill has reduced dmg on pvp anywhere,but all necros we have noticed that),then there will be no class able to kill from close distance a necro,since this skill has dot effect+mass critical.And given the fact slug is missing i cant see why mist isnt a kind of slug for necro even on 83lvl even with short range.
If Vampiric Mist gets a high landrate, it will be nerfed the same way other high landrate debuffs like Blockade was nerfed. The debuff is too strong. Have you noticed hte landrate of Curse of Abyss, lately?
Necros aren't getting a slug. We're getting summoner skills. Gonna just have to deal with that and move on.
Please post a fraps of you soloing FoG trains on a Necro using Vamp Mist and Corpse Burst.
We all know how well M.Atk scales, so it's not like going from arcana mace to dynasty or dynasty to icarus/vesper is turning Corpse Burst into some rediculous AoE skill.
Making trains at Nest is nothing to be proud of. A Necro can turn his summon into a No-XP Servitor and keep it out just for the transfer pain. And pull trains there. I and the other Soultaker in clan pull trains in FoG all the time, as does an Arcana Lord.
FoG isn't hard if you XP in Dark Attack Areas with a Dark Resist set on. Corpse Burst is non-Attributed, and Vamp Mist is more clutch as a debuff than for its damage (although it has +1 Vortex Power).
I'm not saying you can't DO it. I'm wondering how efficiently [and how long] you can maintain it. Even with 2 rechargers. I know a Bounty Hunter can pole FoG all day without breaks with similar support (BD, SWS, SE or DC), so I'm curious.
If Vampiric Mist gets a high landrate, it will be nerfed the same way other high landrate debuffs like Blockade was nerfed. The debuff is too strong. Have you noticed hte landrate of Curse of Abyss, lately?
Necros aren't getting a slug. We're getting summoner skills. Gonna just have to deal with that and move on.
LOL
Nothing more to answer to that.
My Dino nest trains on Frantz server were wellknown to everyone who plays there.
I made some posts with pics some day that due to heavy lag(we guess)dino became a nightmare and i was a gm to look about that.You can search for those if you need some proofs .
And i didnt use a pet for that trains which i did daily from 82-84lvls.But i wont write here details about how i managed to xp aoe,or what my skills exactly do,who ever lvls a necro up to 83 will find out himself.
In he past,some other people did post and their posts helped me as a new player,so i make the same for newcomers who read whatever nonsense people write in forums that nukers sucks and go make a dagger believing they will pew pew all,only to see they hardly can kill anyone if they are on basic gear.
I'm not on Franz, so tell me how I would know about your Dino Nest trains.
Nest isn't hard to AoE on a Necro. You can XP there AoEing with Corpse Burst without Vamp Mist - trivially, especially with a BD on top of Prophecy. With Vampiric Mist, it's a joke, because just that AoE will half-shot every group MOB there, and 1 shot the ones it crits on (Vortex-Power AoE Nuke). It has a 50% Atk Speed debuff, so it makes large trains easily tankable even for a Mage Class.
I XP at Lost Nest and I can handle 15-20 mobs *easily* without Vampiric Mist. The skill is nice, but it's not so great that anyone should waste the time to level a Necro that high instead of something more useful (outside of debuff botting raids) like a Cardinal, or a better PvP caster like Storm Screamer.
That doesn't change the fact that Corpse Burst is a terrible AoE skill and is outscaled handily by Attributed Half-Power AoEs despite having the power of a full nuke.
The only real benefit of Corpse Burst is that we can AoE Dark Resist MOBs without having to deal with the attribute, but the jury is out how it would compete against a Dark Attributed "Flame Strike" with a 150-300 Attribute Mace.
What you said was:
Cause with my necro i aoed using corpse burst and vampiric mist at fog with just a bd and 2 rechargers and i soloed make trains all dino nest area with just se buffs.
I still want to see you solo FoG efficiently on a Soultaker over a decent grind session with only 2 boxed rechargers and a boxed BD.
You don't want to give details, that doesn't surprise me. Sounds like Oriena and her "I blot out my bars in Screenshots because I don't want people to know the art of PP olympiad" bull ****.
I still want to see you solo FoG efficiently on a Soultaker over a decent grind session with only 2 boxed rechargers and a boxed BD.
You don't want to give details, that doesn't surprise me. Sounds like Oriena and her "I blot out my bars in Screenshots because I don't want people to know the art of PP olympiad" bull ****.
What details?Do you just write here only to increase your posts?
Go watch necros aoe and see or go out and do yourself.If anyone wants a ''ready group setup or a best class lvling guide including which skill he has to use at any moment'',then no reason to call someone a good player or not.
The time i did aoe at Fog has passed,i was 81lvl back then,i also did aoe at Mos and i did on Dino from 82-84lvls.
vamp mist is a nice skill, it doesn't land too often in PVP but like tren said it would make it OP and subject to nerf.
with SE (prophecy) and BD and a 150 Icarus spirit + arcane wisdom i can 1 shot groups in lost nest with vampiric mist.
i wouldn't bother with FOG... too much pain for such little gain.
i agree corpse burst shouldn't really be compared to the other Mage AOE skills. but it has served me well getting to 83 in lost nest. even though it has been an inefficient, "fumbled" way (compared to other standard AOE nukers).
vampiric Mist is a nice reward to the necros that stuck it out, but it is a long and expensive (more so than other nukers) road to get there.
What details?Do you just write here only to increase your posts?
Go watch necros aoe and see or go out and do yourself.If anyone wants a ''ready group setup or a best class lvling guide including which skill he has to use at any moment'',then no reason to call someone a good player or not.
The time i did aoe at Fog has passed,i was 81lvl back then,i also did aoe at Mos and i did on Dino from 82-84lvls.
You said you did FoG Solo with a Boxed BD and 2 Boxed Rechargers. I don't believe it, not at level 81. I want to see how you did it, and how long you could maintain it.
I'm not doubting you could stack Dark Resist and AoE a train down while spam healing yourself, but I do doubt you could maintain AoEing trains of MOBs in FoG for any factorable amount of time on a Necro - it's wholly inefficient, especially without Vampiric Mist's overpowered debuff/Mass HP Drain.
You said you would not provide those details. Maybe you just don't want us to see you support dancing, healing, and recharging all at the same time while you box them all on one PC?
We get it, you love your Necro. Gratz to you.
But to suggest someone roll a Necro over a Cardinal (Healer) or an Elemental Nuker is thoroughly irresponsible, IMO.
And I already told you I AoE Nest solo myself already.
An 81 Elemental Nuker leveling there with same support will outXP a Necro, easily. Corpse Burst needs to be revamped into a Dark-Attribute 3/4 Power Point-Blank AoE Nuke not requiring a corpse (like Blazing Circle - keep the reuse the same), or targetted half-power attributed (like Aqua Splash/Tempest/Flame Strike).
i did stop cry
There you go again with your ******ed ranting.. Uninstall L2. Take out your hard drive and smash it to bits with a hammer and throw it away. Then torch your computer and go live with the rest of your village people. GG. :eek:
In C4, sure. But Necro gets the same Sub Passive as Elemental Nukers so why pay 30% or more to level a sub when you can do an Elemental Nuker just as fast, and easier.
If you wanna sub a Nuker SH would be better, SPS right behind it. Both will level faster than a Necro, and both will have an easier time leveling than a Necro because they aren't locked out of good XP spots (like FoD Vamps).
If you already have a Prophecy buffer, then SPS is probably the fastest, due to its casting speed and the fact that you should never have any MP Problems since the 78+ leveling areas are designed to eliminate that (and even SEs get Clarity now).
You said you did FoG Solo with a Boxed BD and 2 Boxed Rechargers. I don't believe it, not at level 81. I want to see how you did it, and how long you could maintain it.
Spam heal on me???????????????????????????????????????????
What kind of necro would he need to spam heal on himself??? OMG!
Bd and 2 rechargers boxed????Did i ever say that??????
I said i did aoe at fog on a spot i could pull from 4 rooms at 80-81lvls with a bd and 2 rechargers(+a kooka).Go figure,which was boxed and which was live.No pet used.I could solo pull 1 room,but i would need mana rest even with 2 rechargers+kookabura-rechargers didnt have mass rechage,if both rechargers do have mass then it can be done-)
Doing trains at Dino nest pulling 30 mobs only with se buffs(which is box and works with macros)was FAR more difficult,impossible to do it if lag, but that was my only option.
Nothing of that could be done without good toon's setup and clan skills.
As for other nukers better aoe skills,they can't stay alive without a healer and its not the skymedow mobs anymore,necro might do less dmg than an archmage with corpse burst(and more than an sts),but necro doesnt need heal.
When i go solo fields of silence/whispers,i let other nuker classes single hit mobs(or propably bot there)and i aoe all lake mobs.
The fact we cant take anymore nerf and we all demand for a class boost doesnt mean we have to hide our capibiliys in l2 forum.
In case you haven't noticed... I'm done with you. Maybe you're English is bad. Go back and reread your posts.
But you can stop quoting me, because I won't even bother replying to you anymore, after this.
I don't have a BD, so when I said I AoE at Dino Nest, it implies PP and SE buffs only.
You still haven't addressed the issues with leveling a Necro from 40 to 83: You just talk about that imba debuff on Vamp Mist, which hardly lands in PvE and [for redundancy's sake] is an 83 skill. With the extra adena saved from leveling a better class (i.e. elemental nuker) a player can buy a full Dynasty Set and probably even an S80 weapon when they get to 80, AoE better than a Necro, level faster, and still be very strong at 83+ in PvP.
I've seen Sorcs pull 20+ MOBs and AoE them down without a healer near them at Dino, so I dunno what you're talking about. Those MOBs die fast, and Sorcs have Targetted AoE skills, so they can half kill half those MOBs on the pull.
A Sorc or SPS will outAoE a Necro at any level in the game 40-85, and a Necro only approaches Storm Screamer when it gets that skill. An 83 Sorc or SPS will OE their AoEs, if that is how they level. Corpse Burst is weak, and Vamp Mist has a long reuse compared to any general purpose AoE skill. The only thing uber about the skill is the debuff, which almost doesn't matter because the BLR of all AoE debuffs is 40% and IIRC 83 skills can't be Enchanted, so it's disadvantaged by default against level 85 toons, which will become easy to obtain in High 5 - maybe then more people will see value in leveling this class (they will remove Cursed Bones then, as well).
I don't care about how many 1x HP MOBs you can round up together and kill with your 83 PvE skill. Really, I don't. Sorcs and SPSes can do the same thing. The only thing that makes you not need a healer is the fact that Vamp Mist drains HP from each target it hits and debuffs their attack speed into oblivion. But who cares, really...
So when will you stop talking about your high level PvE skill and address real issues instead of trying to make it look like one uber PvE skill at 83 makes leveling this class worthwhile? You're starting to sound like a PP fanboi, and we all know how many of those still actively play that class... My guess: Never. If there's ever a situation where leveling a class is worthwhile only if you get to x level, then there is obviously a big issue with either that game, or that class. The only thing I keep hearing about Necros is Prophet is: Get Counter Critical/Vampiric Mist. At least Counter Critical is uber in both PvE *and* PvP, to the credit of Prophets... Vampiric Mist is not.
And if you read my posting history (over 5k posts, there's a lot in there), you'd see that I used to be very pro-Necro and I've tried to incite many civil discussions on how to fix the class and its assorted issues.
Thanks, and have a nice night, and have fun on your Necro.
There you go again with your ******ed ranting.. Uninstall L2. Take out your hard drive and smash it to bits with a hammer and throw it away. Then torch your computer and go live with the rest of your village people. GG. :eek:
least i still know what section to post stuff in downie.
Dino is 3-4 shots to a Bishop with a +3 Wizard Tear.
Not everyone wants to waste money. A Holy Mace pays for itself over the course of one level, leveling there.
Lets say 4 shots per mob (no crits) with the wizards tear:
Blessed Spiritshots B grade is around 240 adena each: 240 * 4 = 960 adena to kill a mob
Lets say 2 shots per mob (no cirts) with the arcana mace:
Blessed Spiritshots S grade is around 1.122 adena each: 1.122 * 2 = 2.244 adena
B grade ---- S grade ---- Difference
960 adena - 2.244 adena = -1.248 adena
I save 1.248 adena per mob by using the B grade weapon and shots, even if I one shoot the mobs with the arcana mace it's still 162 adena more than what it is with the wizards tear.
Calculation is based on:
Spirit ore = 488 adena
B grade crystals = 8.000 adena
S grade crystals = 100.000 adena
Lets say 2 shots per mob (no cirts) with the arcana mace:
Isn't it mostly one AoE shot, if we are talking about the plains? And doesn't the killspeed matter (MP herbs, HP herbs, Emp herbs, adena, quest items...)?
S grade crystals = 100.000 adena
That's quite expensive.
Isn't it mostly one AoE shot, if we are talking about the plains? And doesn't the killspeed matter (MP herbs, HP herbs, Emp herbs, adena, quest items...)?
That's quite expensive.
If it's the group mobs then it's one shot even with an A grade weapon or one shot + letting the mobs hit 2 times if you use a B grade weapon and have reflect damage buff.
100.000+ adena for S crystals is normal on Aria...atleast the last 6 months
Yes it happens when you have a backward sleep schedule and post at the far end of it: Today at 03:07 AM.
In any case, that's obviously a spelling error. It would have been more impressive if you had pointed out my starting a sentence with a conjunction... right under that mistake.
If it's the group mobs then it's one shot even with an A grade weapon or one shot + letting the mobs hit 2 times if you use a B grade weapon and have reflect damage buff.
100.000+ adena for S crystals is normal on Aria...atleast the last 6 months
Leveling at 78+ with a B or A Grade weapon is neither efficient nor wise.
My SE has a +8 Homu, which is about as good as a +3 Wizard Tear. I've tried Dino, and it's not worth it with that kind of weapon. SE has only 1 INT less than a Necro with +4 INT, so 3 more than a Bishop? That's a decent amount of M.Atk. I can prophecy myself, as well.
Those MOBs are balanced to be 2 and 1 shotted.
Where does a Bishop get Reflect damage?
EDIT: +8 Homu/Maj Robes + Emp/Zerk/Holy Weapon/PoWi and a MOB would need to hit you like 10 times for reflect damage to kill it after the AoE. Don't know where you got 2 hits from... Taking your armor off? Even with Maj Robes, I still have more INT (= M.Atk) than a Bishop in DC or Arcana, and Cardinals don't get a Prophecy.
The Big MOBs are 4-5 Shots with that at 78. Not even worth XPing there with that kind of weapon.
With a +3 SoM/FDS, you may 1 shot the small MOBs with AoE. I'm too lazy to try at the moment. The big MOBs will still be 3-5 shots depending on resist and damage variance, though, so still not worth it.
Do you mean ineffective from a XP/Time perspective Trensharo?
From the monetary perspective, I think 4 shotting dinos with A shots gives me more money per killed monster than using an arcana mace with 2 shots.
When i use a berserker spirit buff from clan hall and Major Arcana robes i go down to 3 shots, wich makes the kill cheaper than 1 shot with a SGrade weapon.
I meant inefficient from XP/Time standpoint, which also implies you will make less adena in a certain span of time because you kill less MOBs and thus get less drops. You can also factor in the collection quest there, if you want.
So yes, using less adena to kill the MOBs may give you the illusion of saving adena, but since you earn factorably less than someone 2 shotting MOBs there... You aren't really saving much at all.
The whole idea is ludicrous. If you can't afford better gear, then there's not much you can do. 150 Holy Maces are dirt cheap, though, so I don't see how someone would be unable to get one.
This supposed to be a helping post about which class (cardi or necro)can lvl quicker...
not which one is more usefull in clan or not which are the areas to lvl a necro with aoe from 40-83lvl
I had to write that necro does have full power aoe skills since some people write he hasnt,thats all!
I dont care how many posts someone has inside forum,its not a sign of wisdom but rather a sign he was camping forum more time that he was playing.I only had time to write in forums recently and i may have to stop writing if i have more to do in game on Freya.
Also talking about classes or skills that we used to play 1-2 years ago and giving outdated infos,is bad for players who may believe those posts and act in game according to them.Many players seem to think a post on forum comes always from someone who knows what hes talking about,but not always true.
Biggest example ever,was a clan on Devianne who's leader was a necro on c4 and made subtomain,became a sws and forced all necros of clan to do the same when necro couldnt solo kill a 9man party anymore,telling all the time that necro is **** now and no worth to recruit or invite in xp or pvp party.
This clan was a nukers clan with at least 12 necros and the only one left was 1 necro,friend in real of leader who rarely logged and me.Leader wouldnt give epics/gear to necros at all and i was also forced to make submain if i ever wanted to get gear from clan,but i didnt.I knew my toon's powers,i did my research into other servers too and it turned this <<against necro attitude>>was his personal attitude.
But anyone on this server who was reading forums where people were digging necros grave believed this leader was right,so you get the message?We cant just blah blah cause people believe what its written on forums are correct infos.