Does anyone else find this new recommendation system a bit stupid?
I'll admit I haven't done a thorough enough reading job yet, but from what it seems, it's a stupid and time consuming process that is going to turn the servers upside down looking for recommendations.
I think a better exp bonus system could have been thought of.
Yea just going to be a system of everyone logging in and meeting up with the clan so we can all rec each other. Or people just buying from the npc. I'd like to see something more innovative and less painful. It's like the valentines event, full vit, but you gota be collecting stupid roses nonstop.
The % raise isnt that bad, and the idea is good. But poorly executed.
I suppose atleast theyre giving a reason for the recommendation system. Going to be seeing a lot of blue names.
what i dont get is why are they adding this in addition to the vitality system. why not just add an exp buff and be done with it. the vit system seems to work quite well and it is efficient, no need to buy anything or run around looking for players to give you a bump.
maybe this is just another money sink and a poor attempt to distract people who are bored.
I don't think this is a bad idea at all, granted there will a huge rec fest, but I think I have figured out a way to keep the recs up without buying the very expensive sunglasses... and no not cheating, just using in game marcos..
I always pass rec's and get them in return. I was one always screaming for more recs, because I run out fast and I got a lot of friends to rec! I never did the on/off thing and I even suggested that we could buy rec's with NC coin, so to see it implemented in game rocks!
More rec's & new emotes ... I think it's cool so far! :D ty NCS *passes BEERS!
I'd like to say End Game is over-rated but unfortunately it appears other than the revamp of the Archaic Lab, NCSoft is not particularly putting in any effort into developing areas for toons less than 82.
actually its easy to do since u just have to click rec, and u only need 100 so i dont have to see the dark blue(which i lose in my colourblindness) and all u have to do is log out with 120 recs and u dont have to worry for the next day...
I'd like to say End Game is over-rated but unfortunately it appears other than the revamp of the Archaic Lab, NCSoft is not particularly putting in any effort into developing areas for toons less than 82.
Correct.
this has got to be one of the least creative/innovative additions to the game ever made, sorry but this is just poor design, i could think of 500 less cumbersome ways to accomplish the exact same thing, was this meant to be fun or tedious? Ask yourselves W.W.B.D.?
this has got to be one of the least creative/innovative additions to the game ever made, sorry but this is just poor design, i could think of 500 less cumbersome ways to accomplish the exact same thing, was this meant to be fun or tedious? Ask yourselves W.W.B.D.?
modernizing the UI, targeting system, friend list, inventory, bank etc.... might have been a better use of their time and resources. since they clearly find this game viable to make updates to, they might as well do it well.
i think anyone who has played any other game before this one and starts might be taken back by the fact that tab will open the inventory and escape won't cancel anything.
i stand by my earlier assertion and a blue name doesn't impress me. the good thing is that this game has as many shortcomings as it is fun. certainly better than [that] other disaster.
Shikhar, It is pretty goofy!
I'm blue and never asked anyone for a rec or did the on-off thing, but it is pretty dam funny to hear hero's shout ... give me rec's or I will pk you! no need to mention names. hehehee
... just wait tho' they will post in behind me QQing and then you will see them on-off all over the place.
the +% xp isn't bad...
only an hour, so better for those casual gamers.
It's only an hour just after you log in.
Which, given the fact I can easily log in and then stand there for the next two hours dealing with the mails, PMs, clan drama and what not before going off for another hour or two and dealing with business, production orders and the like ... means I'll never going to use it. Ever.
i wish they had this back in the day...cuz the rec system i think was useless. if you dont like this new system just dont use it just like people didnt use it and you dont see many blue names!
Which, given the fact I can easily log in and then stand there for the next two hours dealing with the mails, PMs, clan drama and what not before going off for another hour or two and dealing with business, production orders and the like ... means I'll never going to use it. Ever.
that is the main issue... if it was an item like the cubies then people not be crying about it.
Ya'll could complain about anything! Hey, you guys, they gave those of us who don't play every day all day long another way to catch up to the 80+s. I for one am SUPER happy about it.
I think the only bad think , is that the timer is starting when you just log in !!! WTF !!! you must login, and then XP XP XP... then you can make sss , chatting etc...change the silly timer !!! from now on , i just log out in farm areas , login and i can xp my 1 hour !
I think the only bad think , is that the timer is starting when you just log in !!! WTF !!! you must login, and then XP XP XP... then you can make sss , chatting etc...change the silly timer !!! from now on , i just log out in farm areas , login and i can xp my 1 hour !
I agree. Normally I take my time in Giran to check out all the shops in Giran, think about where I should head out to. Now it's quite rushed, having only that 1 hour of extra exp time. Although I agree with Osa, it's a very nice bonus for the more regular players to catch up to 70/80+.
I'd like to say End Game is over-rated but unfortunately it appears other than the revamp of the Archaic Lab, NCSoft is not particularly putting in any effort into developing areas for toons less than 82.
IMO I think they should focus more on the lvl 1-61 for more content. Get some more players in the game and create a low end community again.. more social and fun! :rolleyes:
I think the only bad think , is that the timer is starting when you just log in !!! WTF !!! you must login, and then XP XP XP... then you can make sss , chatting etc...change the silly timer !!! from now on , i just log out in farm areas , login and i can xp my 1 hour !
Its a good improvememnt, nfortunatly some times take you like 30 min till you are able to leave town and those sandglasses are an absurd 5mi is too much, maybe something near 500k would make it usefull.
Agree,the item is too expensive to buy it,500k would be ok.
All players now are stressed when they log in,by the time you need to find 1 more person to go xp,log buffers and do the recs,you have lost halph of the bonus time.
Again this boost on xp is for low lvls who use npc buffs and go xp alone,but low lvls usually play with vit4,the new system should be designed for s80 people needs.
IMO I think they should focus more on the lvl 1-61 for more content. Get some more players in the game and create a low end community again.. more social and fun! :rolleyes:
this, altho im nto complaining about the rec system, now rec's have a use. so what?
Only real way to create a lower level community is give things that require lower levels to do for higher level people. and that is pretty much nothing. and with subclassing, who needs to ever go back to being below 40. with warps and teleports and gating, no one even needs to go into the low level towns to go to the low level areas (that have high level content) it's too late for l2. its a niche game for a niche market. the best thing we have coming is the merge. Although i did snag my friends into the game, not everyone can accept the ghost towns ~
Does anyone else find this new recommendation system a bit stupid?
I'll admit I haven't done a thorough enough reading job yet, but from what it seems, it's a stupid and time consuming process that is going to turn the servers upside down looking for recommendations.
I think a better exp bonus system could have been thought of.
/opinions?
i think they could have though of a much better system but its super easy to get the bonus
Agree,the item is too expensive to buy it,500k would be ok.
All players now are stressed when they log in,by the time you need to find 1 more person to go xp,log buffers and do the recs,you have lost halph of the bonus time.
Again this boost on xp is for low lvls who use npc buffs and go xp alone,but low lvls usually play with vit4,the new system should be designed for s80 people needs.
i always look for a room on alt dagger b4 log even before the rec system. log in when ready to xp...
also you dont need another person to xp, you can solo somewhere for 60 minutes if u need to. there is a huge number of spots you can noble port to and kill easy w/ just basic buffs, hell u can pole fog on combo buffs,
i think they could have though of a much better system but its super easy to get the bonus
i always look for a room on alt dagger b4 log even before the rec system. log in when ready to xp...
also you dont need another person to xp, you can solo somewhere for 60 minutes if u need to. there is a huge number of spots you can noble port to and kill easy w/ just basic buffs, hell u can pole fog on combo buffs,
Well,true everyone can just go somewhere unbuffed and xp with herbs,but when you are 84-85 with wars, your xp areas are too limited, and you dont want to waste this 60' per day on blue mobs-which will be like -45' even if you just go find shots,make 1-2 teloports and run to find mobs unbuffed.
But they were design those stuff for years,thats what they found to do?(dont forget the nerf of elemental attribute in weapons,we make less dmg now).
They should make something else,like a 10' period when you log that you dont get xp if you kill mobs but your xp bonus time also is not runing so you have time to say hi to friends,find supplys take your buffer and go to xp spot. The item also selled by npc would make a difference if it was in a logical price.
To me,this vitality system is too many words for minimum result.
Personally I love this new system, but one single thing could be a improvement, the timer should only tick down in non-safe zones, after that it would be perfect in my opinion ^^
I don't see the problem with getting supplies.
Just make your char ready in the evening when you go to sleep and next day just log and go exp right away. You can say "hi" to friends while exping :)
Has anyone tested the 50% bonus you get when your recs are 100+? Does it give xp based on your vitality level or the mob's base xp?
Just wondering if it is better to wait to use it when vit is full or if vitality level doesn't affect it :)
I sorta tried to test it but my brain hurtz from it :p
Haven't notice if xp goes down when my vit2 goes down but,the meaning of this system shouldnt be that 84+ toons dont need to stay out of game for 3 days to reg vit? (like most of them were doing untill now).Xping on end lvls with vit0 is simply waste of shots,but most of us need to go xp because we lvl a buffer with us,or we need to lvl a sub or play in a party with some friends.
I would like to see main and subs not sharing the same vitality,cause now daily vit2 varnish in a few minutes and either your main or your sub xp always with vit0.A vit bar for each sub would be nice.
I think it gives bonus based on vit XP, lvling today I was getting about 120k a kill with buffer in pty and vit 2, nevit wore off it went to 80k a kill.
One thing is though that XP is a lot slower now with the element nerf. Even with nevit the XP in FoG is lower and loads of people are complaining because they can't hunt the spots they used to...... good way to lose players. One thing comes as another is taken away, personally I'd take the old element system in PvE over a 1 hr buff any day.
Rec wise it's easy to get 255 let alone 100, my town dorfs have 40+ when I wake up and one of them is only lvl 6. Even with only 2 accounts you could get 100+ recs 10 minutes just making alts. ONce the first hour has gone you get an extra 10 recs too so once your toons are 255 recs you can just use your initial 20 to get them back to 255 each day then use the extra 10 (eventually extra 20+ over time) to get other toons to 100 recs.
Only problem now is I've gotta keep my main logged out for 3+ days to get full vit, then spend the rest of my time XPing for 30 minutes with a vit pot, logging then do the other 30 minutes. Then do that for 7 days depending on how many vit pots I get. That means that in 1 hour of playing a day (1 hour 30 minutes inc the 30 minute break for vit pot) I make the same XP Id' make in 4.5 hours of XPing. Birthday buff I'd have to XP off over 12 days to get maximum XP!
Too complicated, I just wanna play the **** game! It'd be nice to get a pot that'd hold the timer on the buff until you earn XP so you don't have to log in your XP spot every time.
Yeah, definately a nice bonus and can't complain about a boost. But it's too flawed for me, Complicates stuff loads when you're trying to stack it with vit and stuff for optimal XP and means you've gotta have full vit when you log in and XP straight from the beginning of the hour.
I'd rather them just restrict the element nerf to PvP only so people can pole easily again, with less damage output it really nerfs the XP rates pretty hard.
Whats wrong with it i have 2 accounts and both the main toons now have 50% bonus every time i play ^^ it should be set though to only go down when you are in a combat area not in a non combat area like a town. All i DO is get completely ready to go out and exp next time i log in that way i only lose like 3 mins max.
Yeah, definately a nice bonus and can't complain about a boost. But it's too flawed for me, Complicates stuff loads when you're trying to stack it with vit and stuff for optimal XP and means you've gotta have full vit when you log in and XP straight from the beginning of the hour.
I'd rather them just restrict the element nerf to PvP only so people can pole easily again, with less damage output it really nerfs the XP rates pretty hard.
i have to agree here... though i still find aoe fairly simple you definatly have to be more carefull.
it seems they put more and more features in game to rush ppl to high lvl, but they keep trying to gimp polling wich is imo the best way to rush ppl through lvls. doesnt make much sense. let everyone pole, polearmers will always have a poling advantage, destros will always have a huge advantage.
They need to perma ban everyone that has ever botted (exp, shop, crafting, pvp, buffing etc etc) and then we can talk about not making it easier to level.
it took me roughly a week to get to 255 with just my boxed crafter giving me recs.
this system is waaaay easier to get to 255 than the old system. plus any 1 char can rec the same person over and over without logging in and out.
i dont forsee any server being overturned by "!OMG WTB RECSSS PLSSSSSS I PAYZ GOOD". this gives everyone an easily achievable xp boost on top of vitality.
As a side note, the 50% increase from the nevit blessing (the 1 hour xp bonus u get through recs) stacks on top of your vitality. i was partying with 2 lvl 82 chars, one on vit 4 and no nevit blessing and one on vit 4 with nevit blessing and the difference in xp was 400k/mob vs. 450k/mob. so thats a nice little bonus too.
nothing is wrong with the current rec system and what the OP is concerned with wont happen imo.
Which, given the fact I can easily log in and then stand there for the next two hours dealing with the mails, PMs, clan drama and what not before going off for another hour or two and dealing with business, production orders and the like ... means I'll never going to use it. Ever.
Yes, the timer needs to not start until you 1st enter combat stance.
Can't see anything wrong with this new system. 450% EXP/SP is pretty bad ***. Combining that with 30 min vita is just awesome!
Just to see how awosome it is,me 85lvl duo with my 81lvlse in the best xp spot,i get during this event bonus time(i loose 5-10' untill i log all buffers and move us to spot or take shots ,buff us and go to mobs) so on 50' of 50% with vitality almost 0,i get
Just to see how awosome it is,me 85lvl duo with my 81lvlse in the best xp spot,i get during this event bonus time(i loose 5-10' untill i log all buffers and move us to spot or take shots ,buff us and go to mobs) so on 50' of 50% with vitality almost 0,i get
Was going to post that, but you were first Nuku. Yes, it's High Five part 1, the timer should be only active during combat stance, it should stop once you exit from the stance or soe to town if I understand it correctly.
So for best results B4 u log out for the night make sure ur recs ar at 120 or more. That way when u log the next day u lose 20(therefore ure at 100recs)
and can continue xping at the extra 50% rate. Then b4 u log get another 20 recs. Rinse repeat daily.
Was going to post that, but you were first Nuku. Yes, it's High Five part 1, the timer should be only active during combat stance, it should stop once you exit from the stance or soe to town if I understand it correctly.
U'r making people crazy over to maximize the nevits blessing
it should only start to run when u decide it to
Stop deciding in our places when we want or don't want to use things
This buff in itself is a nice idea, but it more should be like a buff u can
click once a day, then somthing that runs down with a TIMER as soon
as u log in.
A even better idea would be to daily have a Nevita potion in u'r inventory
that u could pop once u'r on the hunting ground and that only stays
in u'r inventory for 24 h
U'r making people crazy over to maximize the nevits blessing
it should only start to run when u decide it to
Stop deciding in our places when we want or don't want to use things
This buff in itself is a nice idea, but it more should be like a buff u can
click once a day, then somthing that runs down with a TIMER as soon
as u log in.
A even better idea would be to daily have a Nevita potion in u'r inventory
that u could pop once u'r on the hunting ground and that only stays
in u'r inventory for 24 h
yeah, usually u lose alot of nevit blessing's time before u get a party and reach hunting ground
I don't understand what is that all talking about. I guess there are players which like to post just for the sake of posting. 'Coz it is quite obvious - the new rec system is designed to help the "casual" players - players who can (or want) to play just from time to time. I see nothing bad in this. We all complain about the bots (and i am sure some of those who complain don't mind using bots) but when NCSoft implements something which does not help the bots and/or botters some players start to cry. If you don't like it just don't use it. I bet no1 will get ban for not using the new rec system.
I don't understand what is that all talking about. I guess there are players which like to post just for the sake of posting. 'Coz it is quite obvious - the new rec system is designed to help the "casual" players - players who can (or want) to play just from time to time. I see nothing bad in this. We all complain about the bots (and i am sure some of those who complain don't mind using bots) but when NCSoft implements something which does not help the bots and/or botters some players start to cry. If you don't like it just don't use it. I bet no1 will get ban for not using the new rec system.
And how manny of those CASUAL players can enjoy this u think ?
They have a party waiting on them ?
Mmmm nop dun think so, since they are casual, they are the ones that
are actually denied the buff , only the ones that box buffers can
or the ones that have enough with town buffs.
Not a good idea to make it somthing that starts running as soon
as u log in, even if u have a constant party waiting on you
and u are smart enough to set up at u'r hunt spot, u still cant
time it for when u actually want to use it.
It's deprivation of free will.
U will actually have to think not to play for fun but in function
of nevits blessing...
It's RIDICILOUS
Not to mention this is a form of subliminal stimuli.
Alter people's perception so they do what u want...
that's why sublimial messages were forbidden in commercials
but not Subliminal stimuli, Nevit's blessing is a example of that.
I don't understand the crying. We play the old version of l2. Korea already has High Five part 2 where rec bonus starts when you go into combat. Why crying about something that is already fixed in the next update?
Does anyone else find this new recommendation system a bit stupid?
I'll admit I haven't done a thorough enough reading job yet, but from what it seems, it's a stupid and time consuming process that is going to turn the servers upside down looking for recommendations.
I think a better exp bonus system could have been thought of.
/opinions?
I cant agree..I find the new system pretty good. I spended only some min at the first time recing my toon to max...after that buying daily 10 rec item for 100k and my clan mates rec me the missing 10. Its a nice bonus and I like it. No time consuming at all.
And how manny of those CASUAL players can enjoy this u think ?
They have a party waiting on them ?
Mmmm nop dun think so, since they are casual, they are the ones that
are actually denied the buff , only the ones that box buffers can
or the ones that have enough with town buffs.
Not a good idea to make it somthing that starts running as soon
as u log in, even if u have a constant party waiting on you
and u are smart enough to set up at u'r hunt spot, u still cant
time it for when u actually want to use it.
It's deprivation of free will.
U will actually have to think not to play for fun but in function
of nevits blessing...
It's RIDICILOUS
Not to mention this is a form of subliminal stimuli.
Alter people's perception so they do what u want...
that's why sublimial messages were forbidden in commercials
but not Subliminal stimuli, Nevit's blessing is a example of that.
And how manny of those CASUAL players can enjoy this u think ?
They have a party waiting on them ?
Mmmm nop dun think so, since they are casual, they are the ones that
are actually denied the buff , only the ones that box buffers can
or the ones that have enough with town buffs.
Not a good idea to make it somthing that starts running as soon
as u log in, even if u have a constant party waiting on you
and u are smart enough to set up at u'r hunt spot, u still cant
time it for when u actually want to use it.
It's deprivation of free will.
U will actually have to think not to play for fun but in function
of nevits blessing...
It's RIDICILOUS
Not to mention this is a form of subliminal stimuli.
Alter people's perception so they do what u want...
that's why sublimial messages were forbidden in commercials
but not Subliminal stimuli, Nevit's blessing is a example of that.
- Vitality for casual players.
- Recommend bonus for people who dont usually have vitality.
Or if you are smart or fortunate enough you can make use of both whether casual or hardcore, but thats a different matter.
As for it starting as soon as log in, shift *** to xp and do other stuff after, and wait for next chronicle/updates. Otherwise let it run out then u can be the same as before :p