One very nice spot for (5x -> all mobs deep blue) is Forsaken Plains. Going straight ahead from the teleport spot you ll find a hill where Fallen Orc's spawn, they give very good XP.
Kookaburras, Antelopes, Bandersnatches and Bears outside Godard are your best bet after leaving FP and before going FOD.
I don't suggest VOS, mobs are agro, social, teleport, they hit hard and crit often. Maybe VOS give very nice XP, maybe a clasic mage level up spot, but sometimes better to level up a bit slower than loose 30 mins grinding from 1 crit.
Move to Forest of the Dead when you can kill everything there with 2 hits (6x -> all mobs deep blue). When you level up a bit, go to the Vampire Spot / Tablet Spot. You could stay there even at very high level's (75/76/77), where with +++ gear you might be able to 1-hit everything. Beeing able to 1-hit everything makes over for the higher XP areas.
At 78 you move to Primeval Isle (Dino Island). In 77 might be bit hard because of the level penalty you cannot kill mobs 2-hit, you need more nukes / mob.
Maybe some spots give better XP / mob, but, the best XP/Time you get at those spots.
One very nice spot for (5x -> all mobs deep blue) is Forsaken Plains. Going straight ahead from the teleport spot you ll find a hill where Fallen Orc's spawn, they give very good XP.
Kookaburras, Antelopes, Bandersnatches and Bears outside Godard are your best bet after leaving FP and before going FOD.
I don't suggest VOS, mobs are agro, social, teleport, they hit hard and crit often. Maybe VOS give very nice XP, maybe a clasic mage level up spot, but sometimes better to level up a bit slower than loose 30 mins grinding from 1 crit.
Move to Forest of the Dead when you can kill everything there with 2 hits (6x -> all mobs deep blue). When you level up a bit, go to the Vampire Spot / Tablet Spot. You could stay there even at very high level's (75/76/77), where with +++ gear you might be able to 1-hit everything. Beeing able to 1-hit everything makes over for the higher XP areas.
At 78 you move to Primeval Isle (Dino Island). In 77 might be bit hard because of the level penalty you cannot kill mobs 2-hit, you need more nukes / mob.
Maybe some spots give better XP / mob, but, the best XP/Time you get at those spots.
If it takes you 30minutes to get~4% at those low levels you shouldn't be playing this game. Stick to VOS
Cemetary is better at 5x (at the Orc Pits), Devastated Castle Area is better, as well (that place drops herbs). Even Outlaw Forest is better than VoS at very low - mid 50s for most mage characters.
VOS isn't really viable until high 50s. At last 56, but 58 if you're a Spellsinger - assuming normal gear setup.
No one in his right mind will go to Valley of Saints at level 50. It's not C5 anymore, where you could go there at 48 or 50 and self-PL yourself because your nukes hardly [if ever] failed.
You will get rocked in any decent XP spot there, unless you have ridiculous support behind you, or some ridiculous gear on your character.
Anyone who suggests VoS at level 50 obviously hasn't been there on a mage character in the past year or so, or had ridiculous gear/support behind that character. Even then, you can probably XP better in other areas considering the amount of failures you will get in VoS at that level...
I'm so glad I've levelled out of the range of exp'ing in VoS. Those **** things would crit on me one after another D: I lost well over 200% in deaths at that place when trying to level there haha
I always hit VOS at 52 in a demon set and BO jewels and survive just fine in the tunnel spot right at the entrance. Sure.. you may die, but it is easy to rez up and keep going. During the valentines vit 4 even I was doing like 40% a buff round, if not more.
doing 20 levels in VoS, my urge to kill would start to rise.
50 to 64 for something different, could do the Cemertary and then move outside and then up the hill. There is one spot were they are closely packed, but no herb drops. Also, EV is not too bad.
doing 20 levels in VoS, my urge to kill would start to rise.
50 to 64 for something different, could do the Cemertary and then move outside and then up the hill. There is one spot were they are closely packed, but no herb drops. Also, EV is not too bad.
EV is magic resist mobs... why would you ever hunt there?
If it takes you 30minutes to get~4% at those low levels you shouldn't be playing this game. Stick to VOS
When you get killed at VOS at lvl 60 (because you cant XP there at level 50) , yes you loose 30 mins of your time, counting to village / rebuff / TP back / move to XP spot. XP gained at these levels is about 10% / Hour playing solo.
When you get killed at VOS at lvl 60 (because you cant XP there at level 50) , yes you loose 30 mins of your time, counting to village / rebuff / TP back / move to XP spot. XP gained at these levels is about 10% / Hour playing solo.
Maybe if I was able to not use my hands it would take that long...
You should be making more than 10% per hour there.
Maybe if I was able to not use my hands it would take that long...
You should be making more than 10% per hour there.
With vit0 you can make more than 10% / hr at level 60, newbie buffs / solo ?
Anyway, it's been a long time since then, maybe I am wrong.
Regardless to that I still support that there are nowadays many areas where you can level up with same rate skipping the risk / frustration of VOS. I always talk about solo XP with newbie buffs. Last time I leveled up a mage I took the path FP -> Godard Surroundings -> FOD
OFC a toon with good gear and nice support maybe be better at VOS.
You were in vos at lvl 52 with common gear and a b-grade shadow weapon?
You must be really, really good at playing.
How did you handle that flame debuf, that eats away your HP for a long time? What about those teleporters who randomly get to you and help their comrades?
Also for Inquisitor aka Bishop those monsters are all angels, which take less damage from divine attacks. Inquisitor levels best in FotD on all the undeads.
Back in C5 before the Failure/Resist and other nerfs a 48 Nuker could go there with what is basically now NPC buffs and get over a level an hour'ish until 52 or so and then rocket up to A grade in record time.
Without a recharger now, though, with the failure rate you get there it's almost not worth it. Cemetary can level you extremely fast, then you can move to the first cave spot in VoS at around 56 or so (did DC region between cemetary and VoC, though).
I did 48-72 once in VoS. I'd rather /wrist than spend that many levels in one zone again. It's seriously depressing.
It's not how fast you can get the XP back, it's also how often you die. Blade and Flash of Splendor is no joke for toons with B Grade or Common Jewels and low P.Def.
There are so few mobs in VOS that there is no risk anymore.
Unless you're a complete moron that couldnt play the class in any area anyway.
I've CDL'ed there and actually gotten bored. That shouldnt happen when you are running around with about 500 hp or less.
OK, don't follow the moron's suggestions ..
Lets sum up the PRO's advice .. Here it goes ..
1) Get Common B-Grade Armor, Jewels and Weapon
2) Get Newbie Buffs
3) Go solo at VOS running around with 300HP and CDL mobs
4) After every second mob you kill B2M to keep your HP below 350
OFC you should know that
1) If by accident you pick up any HP herb you need to w8 for B2M again
2) If by accident you don't kill a mob 1 nuke (your HP > 400) ...
3) If by accident a mob resists your 1st nuke ...
4) If by accident a mob spawn next to you while moving ...
5) If by accident you miss the correct killing order ...
6) If by accident the MP herb you need for next nukes drops at the wrong place ...
7) If by accident anything else than programmed happens ...
8) If by accident you have a kooka you want to use ...
All above seems easy boring for a real PRO
On the other hand, me, the moron got average 8.5K XP / mob every 10 seconds just 2 shooting everything. That's 25K / 10 secs on vit4 for as long as you can keep F1 down and just click the closest mob. No danger, no deaths, no ordered killing, no w8ing for respawn, no crits, no bleeds, no TP mobs, no downtime.
Don't want to argue with you, my point is that the times that VOS was the one and only place to efficiently level up a mage are long gone. There are spots where even though the XP/mob is a bit less, you kill const and so fast that you get better XP / time. No need to get in trouble where you can get more XP / time at other places. Even if it's easy for you to CDL at VOS it's irrelevant, most ppl level up faster in other places. C3 / C4 times are long gone. If you don't want to understand it or if you don't agree it's your right.
Continue sending ppl to VOS at lvl 50 with common grade gear and tell all other who disagree that they are morons.
Moron's 2c of advice is to skip VOS. No need to go there any more.
1) Get Common B-Grade Armor, Jewels and Weapon
2) Get Newbie Buffs
3) Go solo at VOS running around with 300HP and CDL mobs
4) After every second mob you kill B2M to keep your HP below 350
OFC you should know that
1) If by accident you pick up any HP herb you need to w8 for B2M again
2) If by accident you don't kill a mob 1 nuke (your HP > 400) ...
3) If by accident a mob resists your 1st nuke ...
4) If by accident a mob spawn next to you while moving ...
5) If by accident you miss the correct killing order ...
6) If by accident the MP herb you need for next nukes drops at the wrong place ...
7) If by accident anything else than programmed happens ...
8) If by accident you have a kooka you want to use ...
All above seems easy boring for a real PRO
On the other hand, me, the moron got average 8.5K XP / mob every 10 seconds just 2 shooting everything. That's 25K / 10 secs on vit4 for as long as you can keep F1 down and just click the closest mob. No danger, no deaths, no ordered killing, no w8ing for respawn, no crits, no bleeds, no TP mobs, no downtime.
Don't want to argue with you, my point is that the times that VOS was the one and only place to efficiently level up a mage are long gone. There are spots where even though the XP/mob is a bit less, you kill const and so fast that you get better XP / time. No need to get in trouble where you can get more XP / time at other places. Even if it's easy for you to CDL at VOS it's irrelevant, most ppl level up faster in other places. C3 / C4 times are long gone. If you don't want to understand it or if you don't agree it's your right.
Continue sending ppl to VOS at lvl 50 with common grade gear and tell all other who disagree that they are morons.
Moron's 2c of advice is to skip VOS. No need to go there any more.
Go Cemetery -> FP -> Godard -> FOD -> Dino
Dont be silly. Who the hell uses common b grade gear when the mage gear can be bought from lux store?
Yes, I did CDL VOS, and there arent enough mobs to even make it remotely dangerous anymore.
Observe the mobs and learn what they do, what mobs nuke, what mobs port to you etc.
One shotting mobs is alot safer than 2 shotting them there.
It's still very good exp for mages from 5x to 72 where even the top mobs turn light blue.
Dont be silly. Who the hell uses common b grade gear when the mage gear can be bought from lux store?
Dunno, I guess close to none. The only reason I mentioned it is because on your answer before you implied that it could be done.
Yes, I did CDL VOS, and there arent enough mobs to even make it remotely dangerous anymore.
I believe you, np with it. My point is elsewhere.
Observe the mobs and learn what they do, what mobs nuke, what mobs port to you etc.
Have done it so many times in the past, I am so happy that I do not have to do it now :)
One shotting mobs is alot safer than 2 shotting them there.
I also agree, my point was that either way you are involved in a tricky situation. If you use CDL you have no danger from mobs 1 nuking everything but CDL is a bit dangerous by nature, if you don't use CDL (thus no dangers by nature) you maybe in danger by the mobs. And not all mage classes have both CDL and B2M :)
It's still very good exp for mages from 5x to 72 where even the top mobs turn light blue.
I also agree, never said the opposite. Very good XP / mob, maybe the best you can find in game at low 6x till you go FOD, tablet spot at night. My point is that you can get (average) almost same XP / time on other spots also. That's the reason I would not suggest VOS to someone asking for XP zones for mage. I guess that the objective is to level up as fast as possible and the easiest way. I don't find any reason (at these low lvl's) to make someones XP even slightly more difficult / dangerous.
If someone knows VOS really well then no need to go somewhere else. If it's the first time playing a 5x mage, then I am almost certain than other areas will lvl up easier / faster a toon.
you should 1 nuke vos mobs then you'll be ok. sadly you need to be sh or mb necro for this... with top support
To 1 hit VoS MOBs you'd need to be in Demon Robes with a C Grade weapon better than a +10 Homu at that level.
You don't 1 hit VoS MOBs at those low levels just because you have Death Spike.
Even before they nerfed the failure rate, VoS MOBs were 2 ***** with Demon and a +10 Homu at 52 and below. In fact, they didn't become 1 hit until they went dark blue (and usually only the flash and first form of the blades).
So, unless you have some +16 Homu or a Prophecy + BD + Zerk behind you with something like a +10 and Demon Robes...
You won't be one hitting anything.
Unless you're talking about CDL? With C/B Grade casting speed I think I'd stick to 2 shotting, or Go CDL the Orcs at Cemetary, which are pretty safe 1 shots and don't have any ranged skills/teleports at that level.
I never implied it can be done in common gear. It might be possible. But there would be no point to do so, the gear from lux store is cheap enough.
Well, OK then, maybe my wrong. Looking at your answer some posts ago you seem to imply that you did it, or at least you did not clarify that you did not do / recommend.
You were in vos at lvl 52 with common gear and a b-grade shadow weapon? You must be really, really good at playing.
Yes, I am.
Anyway, no need to argue anymore. People interested in those zones can go and see for themselves which area fits better their playing style. In my opinion you need good gear / level to handle VOS nice and easy 2 nuke everything. Some messy situation may occur only if you start sleeping on the keyboard or get distracted. I am kind of bored / lazy / sleepy when I XP for long solo, so I tend to prefer more "relaxed" spots where I can get distracted, pick up the phone, have fun at TeamSpeak, stop for some secs to take a quick look at some web page, etc, etc.
If someone is willing to explore the area, learn the surroundings and mobs behavior, be 100% dedicated to XP for 2-3 hrs, then VOS is a very nice spot. If he is more like me, Orcs at Cemetery and Forsaken Plains, Kookaburras, Antelopes and Bandersnatches at Godard maybe better for the 50-65/70 lvl range.