Freya Screenshot Contest

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It's time to explore the new and re-vamped areas that came with the Freya update, and win prizes for doing so! From September 1 to September 14, players can submit screenshots of the new content and win an easy participation prize. The winners of this contest will receive a variety of fun and useful in-game prizes, and their screenshots will be immortalized on the Official Screenshots (http://www.lineage2.com/pds/official/screenshots.html) page of the Lineage II website!

All players in the USA, Canada and the European Union can participate (with the exceptions of Rhode Island and Quebec). There will be a total of 9 winners, or 10, if there is a winner for the Maguen Challenge!

Read the Freya Screenshot Contest (http://www.lineage2.com/archive/2010/08/freya_screensho.html) page for more details. :)
1st!

Why so low rewards ;(?
does new content also mean content that already excisted but was updated with freya?

An example of which would be the new Zaken instance for lvl 80+...

or Frint that is now lvl 83 with changes made to the instance spawn. (apparently through the contest guidelines it shows frint as an option)

It's unfortunate that my gui is showing..

The only downfall of this is the fact that shadows are sevearly bugged at UHD resolutions in many cases... otherwise everything else is great..

Course my email won't allow me to send files over 10mb... each screenshot is 24mb or larger in BMP... jpeg does a terrible job of compressing such huge images.
does new content also mean content that already excisted but was updated with freya?

An example of which would be the new Zaken instance for lvl 80+...

or Frint that is now lvl 83 with changes made to the instance spawn. (apparently through the contest guidelines it shows frint as an option)

It's unfortunate that my gui is showing..

The only downfall of this is the fact that shadows are sevearly bugged at UHD resolutions in many cases... otherwise everything else is great..

Course my email won't allow me to send files over 10mb... each screenshot is 24mb or larger in BMP... jpeg does a terrible job of compressing such huge images.

Photoshop, recrompress them into jpeg, but keep the quality high.
Having the "realistic shadows" option up or down is your choice, same as the "out-of-focus effect". "High graphics" means that you should be able to see sharp edges, fine detail, and weather effects, but does not necessarily mean that every box in the Graphics window needs to be checked.

I will update the contest page to mention that "realistic shadows" is option as well.

Screenshots from PTS will not qualify. We will be able to check logs to see if your character was really in the places you send screenshots for or not.

Yes, Zaken was another option, so was Steel Citadel and other places, but Frintezza was chosen.
It's time to explore the new and re-vamped areas that came with the Freya update, and win prizes for doing so! From September 1 to September 14, players can submit screenshots of the new content and win an easy participation prize. The winners of this contest will receive a variety of fun and useful in-game prizes, and their screenshots will be immortalized on the Official Screenshots (http://www.lineage2.com/pds/official/screenshots.html) page of the Lineage II website!

All players in the USA, Canada and the European Union can participate (with the exceptions of Rhode Island and Quebec). There will be a total of 9 winners, or 10, if there is a winner for the Maguen Challenge!

Read the Freya Screenshot Contest (http://www.lineage2.com/archive/2010/08/freya_screensho.html) page for more details. :)

Why only players from USA, Canada and Europe ? Why subscribers outside this regions are not eligible ?
So, if my country is not a member of EU, I cannot participate?
Why only players from USA, Canada and Europe ? Why subscribers outside this regions are not eligible ?

Because of laws

So, if my country is not a member of EU, I cannot participate?


No you cannot. Because NCwest territories are only EU/US and Canada. They cannot make their contests suitable with different region laws. It costs a lot.

One thing you should know that it doesn't matter if prizes are in game ones(w/o retail value) laws still apply.
No you cannot. Because NCwest territories are only EU/US and Canada. They cannot make their contests suitable with different region laws. It costs a lot.

One thing you should know that it doesn't matter if prizes are in game ones(w/o retail value) laws still apply.

I live within Europe, but my country is not in the "European Union" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Union)

Is it really laws rejecting paying customers to be able to enjoy every aspect of the game?
hey i'm from the Quebec province, so for me there never is a contest and i missed on quite a lot of "event" because of that
So the rules state that:

One entry per person, does that mean if i have multiple accounts i can only enter once?

and

If it does mean that i can only enter once, do all the shots have to be from the same account. For instance if i wanted a shot from my EM and my OL who are on separate accounts is that allowed?
•Ten (10) Water Crystals (Gives weapon attribute) (No Retail Value)

Not every player even has any use whatsoever for WATER crystal, I suggest you make it an elemnt of choice (but only 1 element)

Water crystals in Freya update are rather silly anyways as it's water RESIST that you want which is fire crystal
Freya = Water based attack background thats why its water ;)
Can't you exchange water crystals for fire?
Can't you exchange water crystals for fire?
only stones can be exchanged
Sace, I live in Australia and have been playing lineage1 since .77 beta and lineage2 since the korean test server was opened up (proxies ftw!)... my point.. can I please for ONCE be allowed to enter a contest for the game I absolutely love... PLEASE!

I feel locationally challenged on this one :P (and the zaken transformation is something I have drooled over ever since I got to use it on the PTS when it first came out).
The countries eligible to participate in this contest are so because there was a legal agreement established between those countries and the US (where NCWest is based) that allows residents to accept international contest prizes. In countries that are not eligible, there are laws that do not agree with our contest terms, and therefore it is legally impossible to trade prizes or involve those residents in an international competition. Legal contracts on this matter a very serious and cannot be ignored. It is hoped that in the future agreements will be made with more countries so that everyone can participate.

Over the history of Lineage II, we did succeed in making a legal contract with the European Union to allow its residents to participate in our contests. There has been progress thus far and there will likely be more.

To answer some other questions:

"One entry per person." This means that if you as a single person can submit only one entry, regardless of how many accounts you have. All of the screenshots must be taken by the same character.

Countries in Europe but that are not a part of the European Union may not participate. This is because there has not been a legal agreement established with this country yet.
K thanks :) time to get to work then lol
Maybe a dumb question but i just thought of it, Do the screenshots have to be taken during the event dates? I took one a couple days ago that i think is mint is it allowed? it was after Freya was put out.
I think this could be in regards to the declared and passed sanction in the EU specifying the allowances and required declarations of prizes and value or tender between various countries (it's actually almost particularly talking about between the US and EU) that quit openly expressed that prizes of no tender or value are free of any need to be declared (not sure on what value it actually goes up to but it's not bad).

I think you're problem with Australia would have been that we haven't quite gotten off our ***** just yet and made a unified law regarding and allowing the limits on prizes of gift or tender.... Would it help if I told you know I know Victorian law and legislation VERY well?

AUSTRAC which is the Australian wide agency that covers account transactions and money transfers in and out of the country and specifically the legal requirement for them is that any transaction whether by cash or account over $10,000 has to be declared to them but anything under that is fine.

In Victoria the only legislation which would or even could cover this would be VCGA which mainly covers gambling, gaming and betting which clearly states that non-financial or non-financially transferable points or rewards are legally fine.

You know what, never mind it's a pipe dream unless we can come up with a unified act covering international prizes or rewards.

My room mate is a citizen of the united states who is currently residing in Australia, is he eligible to enter this competition?
Since Freya was only released on live servers 1 week ago, screenshots from the past week are allowed. Screenshots from Freya PTS are not.

A person's eligibility is determined by where they reside currently. If, for example, a person is American but is living outside of the USA, Canada or European Union, they are not eligible.
I can't describe how much it sucks that I won't get even the slightest chance to score that transformation......but.......

Thanks a lot for your replies Sace ^_^

I'll just go back to quietly drooling and dreaming.
I can't describe how much it sucks that I won't get even the slightest chance to score that transformation......but.......

Thanks a lot for your replies Sace ^_^

I'll just go back to quietly drooling and dreaming.

Blame your government.
Not every player even has any use whatsoever for WATER crystal, I suggest you make it an elemnt of choice (but only 1 element)

Water crystals in Freya update are rather silly anyways as it's water RESIST that you want which is fire crystal

You can actually use them to level weapons to 150 and armor to 60 as well. Not to mention its 200m in winnings.
You can actually use them to level weapons to 150 and armor to 60 as well. Not to mention its 200m in winnings.

That would be such a waste of those things though lol
Blame your government.

but how could I be mad at a government that has decent public health care?
Can I post my screens immediately or should I wait until 00:01 on the 1st of September? :)
Can I post my screens immediately or should I wait until 00:01 on the 1st of September? :)

We've already gotten some email entries and we had to send them back. They are not eligible unless the email is time-stamped from September 1 through September 14. :rolleyes: Please wait until September 1 to send them.
Are name tags allowed/recommended on the regular contest entries?

If not, how do you remove them?
Keeping names showing or not is up to you. You can turn them off by going to your system menu, then Options, and on the Game tab, there are some checkboxes like "Player" and "Other PCs". Unchecking those boxes will remove the names of your character and other player characters. NPC names cannot be removed.
2) Attached to the email, up to 3 interface-down screenshots of the areas specified in your contest category. All screenshots must be no larger than: 1600 x 1200 pixels.

So the 1920x1080 screens I just took don't qualify? :( If not, is there any problem if I just resize or crop them?
How does one tell the resolution of a screen shot that you take in windowed mode?
Dang just figured it out its only 1264x659 .... 41 to short on the height ... grrr
A system message mentions the resolution after the file name when taking screenshots.
Do i have to take pictures only from zones of 1 Category?
For example: Is it possible to take 1 picture from Plains of Lizardmen (80+ Access), 1 from Pavel Ruins and 1 from Beast Farm (All-Level Access)?
Do i need to put the area i selected or areas the picture is from in the email aswell as "The name of the General Category you have chosen. "

e.g.

I take one of Pavel Ruins and 2 of beast farm i would put:

"General Category: All Level Access - Pavel Ruins, and Beast Farm"

into the email
You will need to pick one category that all 3 screenshots fit into. If you choose 80+, then all of your screenshots need to fit into that category.

For the email, you only need to specify which category. You do not have say which areas from that category that your screenshots are from.
Awesome thxs
Photoshop, recrompress them into jpeg, but keep the quality high.

yes photoshop does exceptionally well.. unfortunately still to compress it.. requires one hell of good amount of compression with dealing with 6-8 megapixel bmps
sucks i haven't managed to make it to any of the new places since this event started where i could get a HUDless screenshot...

would love to do frint again...
Are screenshots taken with other programs allowed such as fraps?
Yes any screenshot is fine regardless of which program generated it.
**** am i ever a fan of your avatar nyx...
Thanks! I really like my sig pic - an Exteel player made that for me :)
I can't send my email i keep getting failed deliver :/ and i used the email adress on the website. I wrote it many times but i get the same failed deliver email... any ideas ?
I can't send my email i keep getting failed deliver :/ and i used the email adress on the website. I wrote it many times but i get the same failed deliver email... any ideas ?

i am having the same problem
Can you forward the full failed delivery message to me in a PM?

-Moxie
I got the failed to deliver twice; I then sent all 3 photos in zip format instead of individually (individually they were each 3mb, Hotmail delivers up to 10mb) and didnt get a reply of failed to deliver but never got confirmation that you guys received it either. Can you confirm whether my entry got through moxie.
I have my e-mail back too.

" 5.3.4 message size limit exceeded (in reply to end of DATA command)"

How big can be message?
should I do .bmp into .jpg or smth?

TY for suggestions
Why anyone has their game settings set to 'bitmap' is beyond me, 'high' does just as nice and saves a ton of HD space. I had not problem getting my submission in and I sent only JPGs... GL all
i also got:

This is an automatically generated Delivery Status Notification.

Delivery to the following recipients failed.

[email protected]


is the inbox full from all these last minute entries? :)
Why anyone has their game settings set to 'bitmap' is beyond me, 'high' does just as nice and saves a ton of HD space. I had not problem getting my submission in and I sent only JPGs... GL all

Cause free fraps only takes them in Bitmap ;)
The inbox is not full and I am continuing to receive entries. Make sure that you are not exceeding the size requirements of what your email program is willing to send.

i also got:

This is an automatically generated Delivery Status Notification.

Delivery to the following recipients failed.

[email protected]


is the inbox full from all these last minute entries? :)
unfortunately doesn't look like i'll be submitting anything due to not be available to do it.. lack of support to get to such areas.... and majority of the areas requiring people to be 82+.....
what day will winners get picked!
what day will winners get picked!

"no later than Wednesday, September 29, 2010"

didnt u read rules?:p
"no later than wednesday, september 29, 2010"

didnt u read rules?:p

this is madness reading rules!!!!!!
Can I send entries today too? :)
Any info on results ?
They are so Awestruck with my glorious image that i doubt they left the office last night just stood there staring at its beauty, some probably cried but dont chastise them, true inspiration and moving art can do that ;)
I spent around 2 hours making the perfect screen in Beast Farm.I went from place to place, from angle to angle. waited for the **** moon to change its position....and finally after making the ideal shot I realised that this wasn't the category I was submitting pics for :D
if it was good enough...
you could have kept it.
i win
I win 3 lollipops _:P

Really want to see screenshots who won :)
Congratulations, you have won a 1st place prize from the Lineage II Freya Screenshot Contest! hahaha :D
I am soo happy! :D
Congrats ^^
Congratulations, you have won a 1st place prize from the Lineage II Freya Screenshot Contest! hahaha :D
I am soo happy! :D

Gz :) I am looking forward to see them
Congratulations, you have won a 1st place prize from the Lineage II Freya Screenshot Contest! hahaha :D
I am soo happy! :D

Grtz!! now be smart and trade the zaken transform for an unsealed vesper bp so we no longer have to look at ur flat chest :P
Congratulations, you have won a 1st place prize from the Lineage II Freya Screenshot Contest!

All level Access for me ^_^ YAY!
Quick instructions on filling out the WINNERS release terms document:

On the page #1:
"This Contest Winner Assignment and Release is made and entered into on {Date}, 20{Year}, by and between NC Interactive, Inc. or NCsoft Europe Limited, as applicable ("NCsoft"), and {Your Name, printed legibly}, an individual residing at {Your street address, City, Country, etc} ("Winner").

On page #4:
WINNER
[ {Your Signature} ]
By: {Your name, written legibly}

(Don't fill out anything under the NCSOFT side of that area.)

On page #6:
In the top half, fill outyour name, age, street/mailing address, and phone number.
Since this contest is not awarding any real-life prizes, you do not need to fill out the bottom half, after "Please send my Lineage II prizes to the address below..."
If you live in Canada (but not Quebec): Answer the little math question (Don't ask.) and fill out your address info again.

On page #7:
Mark a "X" in the box.

Then you're all set! :)
Thanks Sace!
# Fax the document to 1(206)588-7207 with “Attn: Lineage 2 OCR”

what does this mean?
# Fax the document to 1(206)588-7207 with “Attn: Lineage 2 OCR”

what does this mean?

You may want to email it instead, I didn't get that part either... (on the Nostalgia Contest).
There are three ways you can send us the document (signed).

1) Fax.

2) Scan and email.

3) Mail (in an envelope).

Of course, you only need to send us the document once. You can choose how to send it.
There are three ways you can send us the document (signed).

1) Fax.

2) Scan and email.

3) Mail (in an envelope).

Of course, you only need to send us the document once. You can choose how to send it.

no fax or scanner and why would i ever want to leave my room the post office is a dangerous place! :(
no fax or scanner and why would i ever want to leave my room the post office is a dangerous place! :(

You can always improvise by taking pictures of the documents, transfer them to the PC and then email. >< Or else you'll have to go to the dangerous place, lol. :p
no fax or scanner and why would i ever want to leave my room the post office is a dangerous place! :(
I know what you are talking about... I can't even PM the officer or pay with adena...

Anyway, congrats to every winner! I can't wait to see your screenshots!
I wanted to enter this contest too, but I can't make HQ screenshots, because my laptop s**ks... :(
Grtz!! now be smart and trade the zaken transform for an unsealed vesper bp so we no longer have to look at ur flat chest :P

this is good idea!!!

Gratz too all!!!

Now I am w8ing for prize in my wh :D <3
There were so many beautiful screenshots! It was really hard to choose only three from each category. But now the top screenshots have been chosen and the winners have been contacted.

Once we receive all the legal documents back from the winners, we can award the prizes, post the winners list on the contest page, and add the winning screenshots to the Official Screenshots (http://www.lineage2.com/pds/official/screenshots.html) section.

After the winning screenshots are posted, I highly encourage participants to resubmit their favorite other screenshots to be posted in the Player Screenshots (http://www.lineage2.com/pds/players.html) section of the website. That way all of these great pictures can be shown! :) To submit pictures to the Player Screenshots, go here (http://help.ncsoft.com/cgi-bin/ncsoft.cfg/php/enduser/ask.php?p_sid=YU6iOAak&p_accessibility=0&p_redirect=&p_sp=cF9zcmNoPSZwX3NvcnRfYnk9JnBfZ3JpZHNvcnQ9JnBfc m93X2NudD05OTEsOTkxJnBfcHJvZHM9JnBfY2F0cz0mcF9wdj0 mcF9jdj0mcF9zZWFyY2hfdHlwZT1hbnN3ZXJzLnNlYXJjaF9ub CZwX3BhZ2U9MQ%21%21), fill out the form and attach the screenshots you want to submit. Be sure to choose "Screenshots and Player Stories" in the Department field!
The Winners List has been posted! Come and drool at all of these awesome screenshots!

Prize deliveries have begun but will continue sporadically over the next few days. If some must occur after the server merges, we will contact you again to verify your character and server names.

Thanks, and congratulations to everyone!

Any participants that do not send in their winners release terms by October 13, 2010, will no longer be eligible to receive a prize for this contest. If you have sent terms but have not received a receipt email from us yet, we will continue to look for email, faxes and letters from you until October 13.
Guess it means that no one has found the permanent Pet from SoA. Wonder if it even drops.
Mine were still better
I was pretty disappointed with the winners. :/
I was pretty disappointed with the winners. :/

they all cheated and use renders so its w/e. so unfair.
what do you mean cheated?
Oh well some are good, some I don't think so much :) but hey gz to all :)
they all cheated and use renders so its w/e. so unfair.

Yes ofc we all used cheats...
And next time don't tell anything about something if you dont know truth ok?

/sorry for my english

Oh well some are good, some I don't think so much :) but hey gz to all :)

thanks ;)
Yes ofc we all used cheats...
And next time don't tell anything about something if you dont know truth ok?

/sorry for my english



thanks ;)

I liked your the most :), All access first place was quite dissapointing :P
well i guess i should have submitted something .. even if it's just a cut out from a previous screenshot i took.

I keep looking at this one thinking how kickass it looks

it's only 1/5th the orginal size though

http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/6294/frint2.jpg
I have removed all of the posts contesting the legitimacy of other contestants' entries. If a player tried to participate and did not meet every facet of the eligibility requirements, they were notified and were not considered for this contest. Please keep accusations of cheating out of this thread.
well i guess i should have submitted something .. Even if it's just a cut out from a previous screenshot i took.

I keep looking at this one thinking how kickass it looks

it's only 1/5th the orginal size though



lol dw lol
I have removed all of the posts contesting the legitimacy of other contestants' entries. If a player tried to participate and did not meet every facet of the eligibility requirements, they were notified and were not considered for this contest. Please keep accusations of cheating out of this thread.

ummm ppl have the right to know why you try to hide facts?
I am not trying to hide facts. I explained that the winners and all participants met the eligibility requirements. You are saying that two of the winners are the same person, violating the one-entry-per-person rule. I personally saw from their entries that they are from two different people. Publicly accusing someone of cheating will not be tolerated on the forums.
I am not trying to hide facts. I explained that the winners and all participants met the eligibility requirements. You are saying that two of the winners are the same person, violating the one-entry-per-person rule. I personally saw from their entries that they are from two different people. Publicly accusing someone of cheating will not be tolerated on the forums.

How do we know they are from two different people? Different accounts? Different emails? Things easily duplicated my dear.
Different real-life name, different accounts, different characters. We cannot prove identity beyond those steps, however, and we do not ask to.

Imagine a husband and wife that both play Lineage II and both want to participate in the contest. Are we going to deny them just because they live together? Are we going to ask for blood samples, fingerprints and dental records just to prove that they are two separate people? No. All we ask is that they meet the eligibility requirements in the legal terms.
Different real-life name, different accounts, different characters. We cannot prove identity beyond those steps, however, and we do not ask to.

Imagine a husband and wife that both play Lineage II and both want to participate in the contest. Are we going to deny them just because they live together? Are we going to ask for blood samples, fingerprints and dental records just to prove that they are two separate people? No. All we ask is that they meet the eligibility requirements in the legal terms.

Husband and wife could be colluding together to make the bestest screenshots in whole wide world. Should not be allowed!
Different real-life name, different accounts, different characters. We cannot prove identity beyond those steps, however, and we do not ask to.

Imagine a husband and wife that both play Lineage II and both want to participate in the contest. Are we going to deny them just because they live together? Are we going to ask for blood samples, fingerprints and dental records just to prove that they are two separate people? No. All we ask is that they meet the eligibility requirements in the legal terms.

yes when you know its 100% proof same person on account you do deny.
yes when you know its 100% proof same person on account you do deny.

If two entries are sent by two different accounts, and we see that the accounts were created by the same person, then those entries are ineligible. All of the accounts in the entries sent for this contest were unique and were assigned to different people.

Further arguing about this point is futile.
Husband and wife could be colluding together to make the bestest screenshots in whole wide world. Should not be allowed!
Lol you cant do that there two different people it wouldnt be fair to them just because they found someone to play with and love.

On a side note Judas WTF!!!! seriously how big is your screen lol
yeah but GiGLs is GRR and everyone on aria/lionna/dev/sayha know that but its w/e
If two entries are sent by two different accounts, and we see that the accounts were created by the same person, then those entries are ineligible. All of the accounts in the entries sent for this contest were unique and were assigned to different people.

Further arguing about this point is futile.

Resisting my advances is futile!
Careful Phoenix you wont be able to enter competitions if you hook up with sace ;) insider trading is illegal lol
well i guess i should have submitted something .. even if it's just a cut out from a previous screenshot i took.

I keep looking at this one thinking how kickass it looks

it's only 1/5th the orginal size though

http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/6294/frint2.jpg

Dude!! No ones mouse can handle that screen shot...epic stiff hand
yeah but GiGLs is GRR and everyone on aria/lionna/dev/sayha know that but its w/e

Listen here Panda! They are two different people!
Careful Phoenix you wont be able to enter competitions if you hook up with sace ;) insider trading is illegal lol

Pfft, who needs contests when you already have the ultimate prize. <3_<3
Listen here Panda! They are two different people!

not!
not!

:)
Oh Sace... why so many edits.
Dude!! No ones mouse can handle that screen shot...epic stiff hand

o.O

the portion of the screen that is taken up by this screenshot is just shy of 1080p..

the total encompassing screen while far larger.. is solved by a number of solutions.. one being quite easy with a mouse that has it's own button for increasing or decreasing speed of the mouse...

combined with acceleration changes in the mouse control panel.. you can move across a screen fast.. while maintaining precision when moveing much slower
lol dw lol

curiousity... any place for a bd in nova if you think i'd be better of in there?
o.O

the portion of the screen that is taken up by this screenshot is just shy of 1080p..

the total encompassing screen while far larger.. is solved by a number of solutions.. one being quite easy with a mouse that has it's own button for increasing or decreasing speed of the mouse...

combined with acceleration changes in the mouse control panel.. you can move across a screen fast.. while maintaining precision when moveing much slower

http://www.untoldentertainment.com/blog/img/2010_04_20/nerd.jpg
posting a picture of yourself isn't a screenshot for the contest or in relation to it...
stop QQ and realize that you didnt won..
me for my part want to say grats to the winners.
i forgot to participate and leonidar (one of the thirdplace winners) forgot to tell me so i blame him :P haha..
Oops
yeah but GiGLs is GRR and everyone on aria/lionna/dev/sayha know that but its w/e

um yea actually, GRR has been GIGLS' alt since forever.

gf NC, you gave two prizes to one person, must not have been enough entries... pwned by greedy dorf
curiousity... any place for a bd in nova if you think i'd be better of in there?

83+? epics?

You could always apply... whats the worst that can happen? You simply get denied.
83+? epics?

You could always apply... whats the worst that can happen? You simply get denied.

What level is your Swordswinger again? [][]==[][]

Also, the winners screen-shots weren't that impressive at all, no offense. How many people even submitted?
What level is your Swordswinger again? [][]==[][]

grandfathered in. sup?
grandfathered in. sup?

It's whatever bro, it's whatever.
It's whatever bro, it's whatever.

btw, week of the 11th confirmed. Round 2?
Sure!
I will probably be staying in the same area because there is nothing around the data center. Maybe Clarence will be working again!
Poor Clarence.
btw, should post pics on our forums!
83+? epics?

You could always apply... whats the worst that can happen? You simply get denied.

no i only recently hit 80.... lack of available pve.. and enough pvp to keep me stagnent..

epics? none... apparently i have to be in a clan that counts..

but apparently you can't be in a clan that counts without having epics..

oh wait that's the paradox...
um yea actually, GRR has been GIGLS' alt since forever.

gf NC, you gave two prizes to one person, must not have been enough entries... pwned by greedy dorf

look sace proof
look sace proof

No one cares what you have to say.
No one cares what you have to say.

yo do!
yo do!

yo, no!