Merger Opportunity: Migrate Giran Shops!

Giran is a pain to move through and shop at.

Perhaps we take the merger as an opportunity to all agree to move sell/buy/craft/etc shops to Fantasy Isle.

The square there is huge, it's accessible from all towns, and it's interesting to look at.

So... all it takes is critical mass agreement.

Down with Giran!

Up with Fantasy Isle shopping!

unless they add blacksmiths/warehouse keepers/basic shops its not gonna happen

Yes, let's think these suggestion through before we get on our soap boxes. Not to mention I was told in other threads that they will need high command approval from NCKor to make any changes. So enough said....

Another problem with your idea is the dwarven Demi-God stands in the town square.
All the dwarfy sell shops praying to make as much adena as they can sit around her!
Fantasy Island just wouldn't have the same feel to it, as in the market town of Garin!
... also you don't have to pay to port to Garin if you don't want too ... Run! It's just a good stretch of the legs!

Unfortunately, this has been tried, worked for a week, then fell flat on its face. Think it was either Teon or Franz, I forget which.

As another poster has alluded to, Giran has most of the NPC's someone will ever need, which adds to its appeal as a main hub.

There's a reason why the craftshops sit between Helvetia and Taurin :p

Crafters near Helvetia/Taurin.

A grade/low s grade in Giran.

Higher gear in Aden.

Thats what I saw on Teon, and that seemed to work.

Fantasy Island will never work for this because, as mentioned, there is no shop for ore there and no warehouse keeper. Giran is the ideal spot for craft shops. And if you have the craft shops already there, it just makes sense to have other shops there, too (e.g. for selling mats).

Well people already expressed why it's never gonna happen. Giran design is way better than FI unless you put all NPC's in one raw there which also will never gonna happen.

another reason giran is good.
it's got an arena that you can noble port to for cheap, and walk in to avoid the enormous port lag... or you could port there from forts, and soe there from some grinding spots. or just walk from inadrill oren or dion easily.
and people naturally move around giran to get to their locations, which is why there is a crafting sector... it's the number one used warehouse in town.

If NCSoft had added a wh in Fantasy island then maybe you could relocate trade there, but since they didn't you can't.

Giran is a hub because of where it is located, the npcs it has in town and on top of that, it has the lowest tax of anywhere other than the newbie cities(which would never work as a gathering point)

Makes sense that people gather there, any attempt to artificially move the shop center to somewhere else will ultimately fail because Giran is naturally well-suited for it, whereas FI isn't.

The only thing that will change that is a change in the game making it impossible to set up a shop in Giran

Giran is a hub because of where it is located, the npcs it has in town and on top of that, it has the lowest tax of anywhere other than the newbie cities(which would never work as a gathering point)

Actually Oren has the lowest tax of all the towns.

Oren has the same tax as the newbie villages, so if the tax is 15% on both Giran and Oren then Oren will be cheaper.

Actually Oren has the lowest tax of all the towns.
Oren has the same tax as the newbie villages, so if the tax is 15% on both Giran and Oren then Oren will be cheaper.
giran has a base tax of 10%
oren and all noob towns have a base rate of 15%
all other towns have a base rate of 20%
(q) NaNa

giran has a base tax of 10%
oren and all noob towns have a base rate of 15%
all other towns have a base rate of 20%
(q) NaNa

I was sure the newbie towns where cheapest.

I just checked my script (l2tax) that I wrote to calculate the ingame prices for the ores and you are right.

Giran has the lowest base tax
Oren + newbie villages has the next lowest
All other villages has the 3rd lowest
Hunters Village has the highest
Spider nest and wasteland has a static price (no tax)

The Fantasy Isle is a very detailed place and if you combine that with the number of the shops then the lag would be lethal. x_X

I was sure the newbie towns where cheapest.They were the cheapest before C4, when they didn't belong to a castle :) (Goddard/Rune/Schuttard)

They were the cheapest before C4, when they didn't belong to a castle :) (Goddard/Rune/Schuttard)

Dorf village is still the cheapest place to buy ores.

Dorf village is still the cheapest place to buy ores.

Depends on the tax in Schuttgart.

Yup. Dorf village (or orc village) is only then the cheapest place to buy ore IF Giran tax is set high (15%) and Schuttgart tax very low (below 5%). If the tax is the same everywhere, Giran is cheapest.

I think Giran will always be the shop hub,however,I did like the one suggestion someone made long ago,in which stores can only be within a certain path (A)u try to set up store on the stairs going to the main wh you will not be able to.I tend to get stuck right there,and many times have to go around the other way to get to craft shops.

I think Giran will always be the shop hub,however,I did like the one suggestion someone made long ago,in which stores can only be within a certain path (A)u try to set up store on the stairs going to the main wh you will not be able to.I tend to get stuck right there,and many times have to go around the other way to get to craft shops.

Which chronicle are you playing? Now a day you can go freakin' THROUGH the other characters just like you can in that other game with orcs and elves and dual wielding daggers.