"Thanks" NC for "nice" siege

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10/15/2010 04:14 PM I make petition #101015-003078 about possibility of using tigers on siege to block way. And still I have just 2 auto-reply "we accept your petition" and "we escalate your petition".
No need to be Vanga to understand what happen on siege
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It was first bad thing. And second is lags. I have 1 movie done 1 year ago to show mass pvp on RU and mass pvp on EU. It was perfect for EU and terrible for RU. From that time RU move servers to new DataCenter and lags disappear but EU make merge + start event and ... welcome lags.
http://grind.mass.hc.ru/files/l2lags.avi
It's just 90 mb movie. I dont make fraps from mass pvp - no point to look on toon that stay and can't move but some actions happen and I can't react. But you can look this movie and video from RU server will make you understanding how most of my clan members "play" on last mass pvp (my lags was even harder than in movie coz this player at least move and use 1 skill =) )

P.S. If someone want to speak about my PC or internet he need to do following:
1. Type whole text in text editor
2. Print on A4 sheets
3. Go to forest
4. Burn this papers.
i heard some people used that to take rune on Naia...

good thing NCSoft doesnt care it seems, as i know multiple people who petitioned with nothing happening
Perma Ban IMO
no EULA violation = no reason for ban. Maybe 7 days ... but no use. My main idea - NC need to stop this event and start reading petition instead of bot-reply.
no EULA violation = no reason for ban. Maybe 7 days ... but no use. My main idea - NC need to stop this event and start reading petition instead of bot-reply.
So Bug Exploitation is not an EULA violation? Since when?
So Bug Exploitation is not an EULA violation? Since when?

It's not a bug, it's a "feature"
It's not a bug, it's a "feature"
Agree, clan skills/wards on oly was feature (joke), so ppl receive just 7 day ban, but main question - if this possibility was fixed or not.
Ok, I just got reply from Pommo, but too late. Next time we need this information BEFORE siege so we can share it and prevent ppl from using it by informing them that it's not ok to do so. For sure in this case ppl will use trials, so for this case we will need to have GMs online on severs during sieges (not a lot of servers now =) ) and we need to limit trial account so they will not be able to summon.

Ok, question with event is closed.

Now, what about heavy lags ?
tigers dont cause lag its your ****** 1995 computers.
tigers dont cause lag its your ****** 1995 computers.

Oh yeah that's why, long time ago, NCsoft issued a warning to those who would mess up sieges by deliberately dropping items on the ground or doing other things that increase lag.
You can still read it, among other "messages of the day", on loading screen.
Oh yeah that's why, long time ago, NCsoft issued a warning to those who would mess up sieges by deliberately dropping items on the ground or doing other things that increase lag.
You can still read it, among other "messages of the day", on loading screen.

thats because they dont want ppl to cry that cause lag for ppl with out of date computers
thats because they dont want ppl to cry that cause lag for ppl with out of date computers

You still mad at your l2bin errors or something...?
IMO it's no different than the ones that use to litter the castle floor with 1 adena drops to lag/dc ppl when they rushed in. Which did get a number of ppl banned.
You still mad at your l2bin errors or something...?

what is l2.bin?
Wait a minute. We arent allowed to do our tigers at a siege ground?

Why limit where we can farm our apigas?
i heard some people used that to take rune on Naia...

good thing NCSoft doesnt care it seems, as i know multiple people who petitioned with nothing happening

i heared dh summoned tigers at pray room do you see pray room on rune or you need map where random 2 tigers came out ?:]
even sh was summoning these pets before sir to kill em for quest so Q_Q Q_Q Q_Q
and misstyrael buy better pc / internet and stop crying
you can always petition ur problem to ncsoft and enjoy 100 tests that they will tell you to do and at end tell you : TRY OTHER ISP :D
Agree, clan skills/wards on oly was feature (joke), so ppl receive just 7 day ban, but main question - if this possibility was fixed or not.

no one even will try to check if its got fixed or not :) or ask sh since ra*** got another char ;]
i heared dh summoned tigers at pray room do you see pray room on rune or you need map where random 2 tigers came out ?:]


Maybe some ppl just play with low PC/NPC limit on siege?

Sometimes tiger have green title with name of "summoner".


and misstyrael buy better pc / internet and stop crying
you can always petition ur problem to ncsoft and enjoy 100 tests that they will tell you to do and at end tell you : TRY OTHER ISP :D

Sure it's PC/ISP. Like 2 years ago I play with 128 kb/s internet on sieges like 200 vs 150 and even having main toon + box I dont have lags. Now with same PC and 1.5mb/s internet I can't play on siege with single main.
Ok, my BP have 4 mb/s internet and recently buy powerfull PC. I will ask him to make short movie to compare last Teon siege on Giran and fisrt Naya siege on Giran.
tigers dont cause lag its your ****** 1995 computers.

Don't think the problem is mainly the lag, the problem is that event pets block the way (reindeer event ftw).
btw, also was a good to make tigers unable to be summoned in siege(pvp) zone.
But this will not fix lag problem.
no EULA violation = no reason for ban. Maybe 7 days ... but no use. My main idea - NC need to stop this event and start reading petition instead of bot-reply.

I'd vote for 14 days ban for those who used the tigers on the siege (actually: just within the castles and on the entrances would be enough; on the siege field outside they don't matter). This would make sure the people who used them can't participate in the next siege.
i dont think that only the pets made one side win.... but ye its lame and i never agreed with doing such things.
NC please dont do summon events when there will be sieges during them, sieges are once 2 weeks, its not hard to do the events in different times. With other words, move the events if you cant fix them...

also the lag was horrible, good pc, not good internet but it was impossible to move, target or use skills during those sieges, wonder how TW will be, let me guess... same...

and about that monitor thing "reply" you got from a GM... come on, rly ... 2 servers to look after, soon it will be 1 server and still there would be no GM watching during sieges or TW...
Just make those summons not able to be summoned on Combatzones. drop done.
I make petition about tigers coz remember several cases when some clans use wolfs (and other pets) to block way. And not easy to kill them coz they put this pet to medusa.

A lot of cheats was used on TW/sieges and will be used in future. I dont know why it's too hard to put alive GM on TW/sieges if we have just 2 servers and they dont have TW/siege at same week.

I dont see any sense to punish cheater later. In most cases it will be some trial-alt, and no possibility to review results of TW/sieges after. So only 1 good way - to have live support during siege and try to prevent as much as possible cheats before ppl use them.
I make petition
didnt yellow side put tiggers at Innadril castle entrance? didnt FR side put tigers at the Innadril castle altar?


... Such events are started mostly at wrong time. It's nothing new that NC Soft doesnt watch the in-game status and doesnt think about misbehavior possible due the events. Anyway I think it's the lesser evil compared to auto-assist, gcp spam, visible hide, auto-rebuff etc what is permamently used and should be corrected/punished.
Just make events siege field restricted.
...coz remember several cases when some clans use wolfs (and other pets) to block way. And not easy to kill them coz they put this pet to medusa.


Oh, really? Cry baby, cry to mommy!
Oh, really? Cry baby, cry to mommy!
Print your post, roll this paper and put back inside of you.
Easy fix, pack sedative pots with you. If you cant win while using sedatives you probably were not going to win anyway
Easy fix, pack sedative pots with you. If you cant win while using sedatives you probably were not going to win anyway

May I introduce you to my patented "wall of merchant golems" siege technique, then? Same principle, you can't damage them, they block movement, and I can spawn up to three of them at once even. :)
Print your post, roll this paper and put back inside of you.

Muahahahaha... I know it hurts to be pwned every time but let me give you a free advice - start playing something else. For example "Barbie in Ponyland".
Muahahahaha... I know it hurts to be pwned every time but let me give you a free advice - start playing something else. For example "Barbie in Ponyland".
I understand that you have a lot of expirience of being pwned every time. I hope you test your advice with same quality like NC QA team.
I understand that you have a lot of expirience of being pwned every time. I hope you test your advice with same quality like NC QA team.

Heh... starting to write a little bit incoherently, right?
Don't think the problem is mainly the lag, the problem is that event pets block the way (reindeer event ftw).

yup, same thing happened with the reindeer event.

i've noticed the tigers can only be unsummoned with fear (atleast i tried aoe fear on a bunch of them and they all disappeared)
Heh... starting to write a little bit incoherently, right?
Sure!

I wrote about 2 issues that faced my side and I suppose not only my side but also another sides.

And you write something like "qq moar", like it was just first sieges where I dont won.
So what about incoherentcy ?