Hello all,
As I noticed hero counts were saved after merges on the new servers.I am not a hero but I think that since we started playing on brand new servers hero counts should be erased for each player.Let me know what you think guys and I'm also looking for an answer from GMs!
Thanks!
It doesnt,I just think it would be better :rolleyes:
but why? the hero count shows who has been in L2 forever and who hasn't, who has been hero a bunch and who hasn't. it isnt hurting anything imo as the people who have higher counts are entitled to them
If a player had hero count 50 to a server,lets say Franz,and transfered to Teon his count would had been erased.So if this char was never hero on Teon now on Naia has hero count 0.So who says that this char ever "existed" by your standards?
That's why I think its not fair the way hero count are now.It doesn't affect the daily gameplay of everyone but it affects the history and the charm if you want of some players when it comes to olympiad.I think that all chars should start from 0 since all servers are new.
If a player had hero count 50 to a server,lets say Franz,and transfered to Teon his count would had been erased.So if this char was never hero on Teon now on Naia has hero count 0.So who says that this char ever "existed" by your standards?
That's why I think its not fair the way hero count are now.It doesn't affect the daily gameplay of everyone but it affects the history and the charm if you want of some players when it comes to olympiad.I think that all chars should start from 0 since all servers are new.
what server r u on? because on naia its basically teon 2.0, so the history is the same.
and i hear on chronos nova is taking the heroes without any problem (but i havnt seen the hero list yet for november)
I agree, it seems to make more sense since it's a new server to start the counts at 0. It doesn't affect my daily life, but it's obviously harder to achieve hero after the merger than it was before.
If a player had hero count 50 to a server,lets say Franz,and transfered to Teon his count would had been erased.
Their inventory would have been erased too. And no more than 2.1 bil adena would've been transferred.
I agree, it seems to make more sense since it's a new server to start the counts at 0. It doesn't affect my daily life, but it's obviously harder to achieve hero after the merger than it was before.
how is it harder?
look at the current hero lists, not much changed from they way it was on the stronger servers.
Don't be stupid people and stop saying stupid things.I talked very clearly about why I think that hero count would be set to zero for everyone on Naia and sorry Hyperlite but you say ******** about teon etc.Noone cares what was happening on Teon,or Franz,or Luna.We play on a new server and if someone doesn't respect this then he should better go out from the server.All the rest are just useless.
As about what Krissa says,its not my rule,its NC's rule to erase hero status and all related info when transfering to another server,not adena and whatever else you say.
I would also like to hear a GM's answer into this.
Hello all,
As I noticed hero counts were saved after merges on the new servers.I am not a hero but I think that since we started playing on brand new servers hero counts should be erased for each player.Let me know what you think guys and I'm also looking for an answer from GMs!
Thanks!
Pretty sure that the number of times you have been hero is a stat recorded to your personal toon's information. It's just like your pvp/pk count, except you don't see it displayed on your stat window. In other words, to reset it would probably have caused a nightmare.
As about what Krissa says,its not my rule,its NC's rule to erase hero status and all related info when transfering to another server,not adena and whatever else you say.
"Adena and whatever else" is also NC's rule for server transfers. Why are you picking one of the rules and forgetting about the rest?
I would also like to hear a GM's answer into this.
You don't need to be a genius to predict the answer: "The hero count is working as intended and it won't be reset".
Don't be stupid people and stop saying stupid things.I talked very clearly about why I think that hero count would be set to zero for everyone on Naia and sorry Hyperlite but you say ******** about teon etc.Noone cares what was happening on Teon,or Franz,or Luna.We play on a new server and if someone doesn't respect this then he should better go out from the server.All the rest are just useless.
As about what Krissa says,its not my rule,its NC's rule to erase hero status and all related info when transfering to another server,not adena and whatever else you say.
I would also like to hear a GM's answer into this.
u mad bro? sounds like someone takes the hero count pretty serious.
and if u think naia isnt teon 2.0, then wtf server r u playing on?
this was a merge, not a transfer. the merge didnt erase clans, augments, pvp counts, etc. so why should it erase the hero count. if someone had hero 18 times on teon and someone had hero 18 times on franz, both chars have it listed as their 19th time once they get hero on naia so i dont see the problem.
you also havn't given a proper argument as to why this should be implemented, as it was the same across the board for all servers.
It really makes much more sense to set hero count to zero (and to 1 for all new heroes this month). But either resetting or not won't affect my pleasure of playing this game.
It's not Teon anymore, though it is more Teon rather than Luna or Franz. Stop living in the past, open your eyes and look at the present - it is Naia now. Same for Chronos, whatever server was meanest before. I believe it was Phoenix, right?
The fact that each player's Hero count has remained intact since the server merge is normal. They were never supposed to reset after a merge, and so they will remain as they are now.
The fact that each player's Hero count has remained intact since the server merge is normal. They were never supposed to reset after a merge, and so they will remain as they are now.
Wow Sace, you can post about something as trivial as this, but no one from NC has given us an answer on TW badges for over a week. Can we please have an up date or tell us we are not getting them back. Either way, I dont care anymore, I want to be able to claim the badges I have earned from the 1st TW after the merge before the second one starts this weekend. Also, need to know if I have to temp. drop clan so I dont lose my badges I earned last TW as the clan will be going a different way this TW.
The fact that each player's Hero count has remained intact since the server merge is normal. They were never supposed to reset after a merge, and so they will remain as they are now.
Neither were the TW Badges? But was that normal? No that was mis-communication also?
The fact that each player's Hero count has remained intact since the server merge is normal. They were never supposed to reset after a merge, and so they will remain as they are now.
Even tho is dont rly care but I think just for the record of being correct they should have been resetted since this is an absolutly new competition/olympiad since 3 servers have been merged.
However doesnt matter anyway what we think since NCsoft does what THEY want and not what THEIR CUSTOMERS want for a better gameplay....
(this is not only regarding the hero count since the count doesnt really affect our game play)
In my experiences with L2, the people who call it that are the people who cant get hero
in my experiences theres has been almost no "legit" hero on erica ... some very few on sayha (mostly due to pointpassing when there was 1 ally who nearly got all the heros) .. chronos ppl i dont know and it dosnt realy matter anymore.
in my experiences theres has been almost no "legit" hero on erica ... some very few on sayha (mostly due to pointpassing when there was 1 ally who nearly got all the heros) .. chronos ppl i dont know and it dosnt realy matter anymore.
What will all the heros do with the free time in high five when they are limited to 10 matches a week? lol
IMO 1500 is a bit obsessive and got issues.
That doesn't prove who the best player just who has the most free time.
in my experiences theres has been almost no "legit" hero on erica ... some very few on sayha (mostly due to pointpassing when there was 1 ally who nearly got all the heros) .. chronos ppl i dont know and it dosnt realy matter anymore.
I also dont know any legit hero from Franz tho some claimed that. I saw some months ago a moment of truth when someone said in HV something like "whom are we fooling, we all got here in same way" or similar.
Yes, there might be some legit hero, 3-4 a server, max, but on the old servers, where they could acumulate the money and level to be able to have a chance in real fights with bots fully ranged and radared.
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What will all the heros do with the free time in high five when they are limited to 10 matches a week? lol
IMO 1500 is a bit obsessive and got issues.
That doesn't prove who the best player just who has the most free time.
Im going to laugh when high five comes lol
Believe it or not but most of the ppl that do this many matches cant wait for highfive either =) I dont like doing 1k matches in order to get hero either... but i love the glow + play oly can be alot fun if i dont only meet neutrals^^ therefore i will do many matches to keep hero and in H5 i will have alot mroe time for real pvp =D
Believe it or not but most of the ppl that do this many matches cant wait for highfive either =) I dont like doing 1k matches in order to get hero either... but i love the glow + play oly can be alot fun if i dont only meet neutrals^^ therefore i will do many matches to keep hero and in H5 i will have alot mroe time for real pvp =D
There are many reasons on why this wont work with only a few matches. It will be probably CB farm all the time for clans or even individuals with many trains of same class, however if all do the same and have max points, we have a problem... Luck will be decisive, sabotage, ppl camping the NPC to watch enemies doing farm in CB etc. It will be much harder for "legits" that way, they will have to be there all the time, have multiple chars that can stand a fight with another "legit" and ruin his CB farm, you will see the things are not so easy.
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There are many reasons on why this wont work with only a few matches. It will be probably CB farm all the time for clans or even individuals with many trains of same class, however if all do the same and have max points, we have a problem... Luck will be decisive, sabotage, ppl camping the NPC to watch enemies doing farm in CB etc. It will be much harder for "legits" that way, they will have to be there all the time, have multiple chars that can stand a fight with another "legit" and ruin his CB farm, you will see the things are not so easy.
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are you really thinking ppl have "trains" of chars which are the same as their main class? wow you're pathetic. Yes there are hard core botters but there is not a SINGLE one that has more than 2 or 3 chars of the the same class lol therefore ppl will just organize CBs on certain days and you can do something like a maximum of 60 (?) matches per week CB which isnt much tbh therefore it gets alot more fair imo because on those CBs the one who is the best in his class will actually win all and get the hero title. OFC feeding is possible but there arent enough ppl for that imo.
are you really thinking ppl have "trains" of chars which are the same as their main class? wow you're pathetic. Yes there are hard core botters but there is not a SINGLE one that has more than 2 or 3 chars of the the same class lol therefore ppl will just organize CBs on certain days and you can do something like a maximum of 60 (?) matches per week CB which isnt much tbh therefore it gets alot more fair imo because on those CBs the one who is the best in his class will actually win all and get the hero title. OFC feeding is possible but there arent enough ppl for that imo.
I dont know in your server but in Franz there was at least one with more than one train.
There are enough ppl that will do it now, because it gets harder to get fed in the classical way. Or perhaps they will be banned before 76, who knows, GMs can still surprise us in a good way and maybe in a year or two the bots will be in minority between heroes, if that doesnt happen, who cares, the game will be dead by then.
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I dont know in your server but in Franz there was at least one with more than one train.
There are enough ppl that will do it now, because it gets harder to get fed in the classical way. Or perhaps they will be banned before 76, who knows, GMs can still surprise us in a good way and maybe in a year or two the bots will be in minority between heroes, if that doesnt happen, who cares, the game will be dead by then.
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Dude your srsly think there will be ppl that are so desperate about getting hero that they bot up 20+ chars (that's the amount of chars you will need to gather enough pts) of the same class to feed himself to hero while this plan will be destroyed by a simple fact: as soon as CB starts there will always be one of the same class and **** up the feeds therefore it is absolutly pointless and dumb to try to feed yourself with your own chars. and also the new system will arrange the fights like this: High pointer vs high pointer etc. therefore as soon as someone that is not one of your twinks and has some more points he will fight that char that is supposed to get fed. BOOM you theory busted.
Dude your srsly think there will be ppl that are so desperate about getting hero that they bot up 20+ chars (that's the amount of chars you will need to gather enough pts) of the same class to feed himself to hero while this plan will be destroyed by a simple fact: as soon as CB starts there will always be one of the same class and **** up the feeds therefore it is absolutly pointless and dumb to try to feed yourself with your own chars. and also the new system will arrange the fights like this: High pointer vs high pointer etc. therefore as soon as someone that is not one of your twinks and has some more points he will fight that char that is supposed to get fed. BOOM you theory busted.
That is exactly my point, i hi5 will be harder for the regular farmers to get hero, someone WILL ruin CB, there WILL be accidents during feed waves and one mistake will cost almost certainly the next month Hero status. And as I said, ppl do (did rather I have no recent info) bot more than one train to do CB. Actually it is very simple too, 1-76 in a couple of months at most including 3rd class and TW for noble. It used to be possible, perhaps now GMs look into the reports from time to time and perma heroes do have enemies, perhaps it is harder now with servers more populated also.
But, again, I didnt say it will be easy, but harder in hi5 to use this old method, besides there are much more ppl doing oly now, it is hard to do CB alone.
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That is exactly my point, i hi5 will be harder for the regular farmers to get hero, someone WILL ruin CB, there WILL be accidents during feed waves and one mistake will cost almost certainly the next month Hero status. And as I said, ppl do (did rather I have no recent info) bot more than one train to do CB. Actually it is very simple too, 1-76 in a couple of months at most including 3rd class and TW for noble. It used to be possible, perhaps now GMs look into the reports from time to time and perma heroes do have enemies, perhaps it is harder now with servers more populated also.
But, again, I didnt say it will be easy, but harder in hi5 to use this old method, besides there are much more ppl doing oly now, it is hard to do CB alone.
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DUDE get real! Everybody that is able to take hero or that wants to take hero is able to either take it via fair CB and normally all players from X/SH etc are fair enough to let a fair CB BE a fair CB so the winner is the winner and they wont bot up stupid twinks for feed... believe me i know ALOT ppl of both major sides and there is NOT A SINGLE person that is this pathetic to make more chars to feed him/herself on CBs.... if you dont believe me, fine. However time will tell that im right. ppl will do fair CBs because it will be alot more fun to do like 30-50 rounds of FAIR CB a week than 300 ports vs OP EEs and such.
Therefore the H5 Olympiad change will boost up the fun value alot.
You arent able to take hero with the points of 5 glads anymore because the servers are so high populated atm you will have to have alot more pts and further your CB would be interrupted before you did the third port =)
Exactly, in more populated servers it will be harder, but not impossible, because the numbers are quickly going down and soon we will be back to old levels of players, or close.
hi5 will make it even harder, but ppl like me that go to oly naked to finish faster 9 games wont see any change, Oly is for programs not for ppl, as many other aspects of the game, unfortunately. Some even got to think leveling using 3rd party is allowed because leveled like that for years, only PvP programs should be banned because Pr0 scripters have too much of an advantage over the regular kids.
Regarding resetting Hero count that should be done only after the bots have been banned so we start with legit heroes for once. Untill then it is as meaningless as before.
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Exactly, in more populated servers it will be harder, but not impossible, because the numbers are quickly going down and soon we will be back to old levels of players, or close.
hi5 will make it even harder, but ppl like me that go to oly naked to finish faster 9 games wont see any change, Oly is for programs not for ppl, as many other aspects of the game, unfortunately. Some even got to think leveling using 3rd party is allowed because leveled like that for years, only PvP programs should be banned because Pr0 scripters have too much of an advantage over the regular kids.
Regarding resetting Hero count that should be done only after the bots have been banned so we start with legit heroes for once. Untill then it is as meaningless as before.
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I am not gonna argue again with you about the "making bots for selffeed" because this is not going to happen on Naia atleast....
and about programm wars, I play PK, I'm the current PK hero there and i dont need a single programm to play and also there are like atleast 12 other heroes where i am sure that they play 100% legit in pvp.
I hate the pvp cheaters as much as you do since they encounter tactics of myself so quickly, as a dagger it must be even more annoying with all those ******s running around with Antibackstab scripts...
However to be honest Naia oly has a lot legit pvpers and they are organizing and managing most of the waves anyway and when CBs are done, they are usually done with enemy knowing and mostly fair. Therefore No this wont happen that a single botter will be able to feed him enough pts to get hero. Not on Naia mby back in the days on Luna but not on Naia =) believe me i know the ppl that farm daily, and there are ppl of almost every class =)
I am not gonna argue again with you about the "making bots for selffeed" because this is not going to happen on Naia atleast....
and about programm wars, I play PK, I'm the current PK hero there and i dont need a single programm to play and also there are like atleast 12 other heroes where i am sure that they play 100% legit in pvp.
I hate the pvp cheaters as much as you do since they encounter tactics of myself so quickly, as a dagger it must be even more annoying with all those ******s running around with Antibackstab scripts...
However to be honest Naia oly has a lot legit pvpers and they are organizing and managing most of the waves anyway and when CBs are done, they are usually done with enemy knowing and mostly fair. Therefore No this wont happen that a single botter will be able to feed him enough pts to get hero. Not on Naia mby back in the days on Luna but not on Naia =) believe me i know the ppl that farm daily, and there are ppl of almost every class =)
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