100percent is a new clan founded in the 2nd of June 2010 by experienced players (3 at that time :P ) but in reality it is aiming to recruit newbies and help them choose the legit way. Currently level 7, about to finish last skills and start the journey towards level 9.
What we offer:
Exp/RB parties twice a day, most days, but at least once a day. (the scheduled parties go now mostly for level 62+, lower level Kamas, raids and parties are available, but not as regular)
Full gear for your main up to A grade even higher for ppl that fit well inside.
One pet upon request.
3 mil adena at graduation and full c grade gear including SA weapon of your choice for every alt upon request.
Advice and help from friendly ppl.
Civil and friendly (English only) clan chat, we are educated mature ppl, 30 yo average.
Forts when possible (due to high bot population that is not always possible yet, but we already had fort about 20% of the time since merger and about 90% before). We expect the situation to improve here.
TW farming for chars 40+, at least one per account, last time we did 5 parties a round, that will continue to improve as more ppl will join and the need will grow.
Clan has recently 2 full parties at peak times daily, we pass 20 connections fairly often.
We also have B grade CH in Gludin (Onyx hall).
What we require:
Full legit, full PvE oriented, nice person. We dont make L2 a job, nor try to Pwn, rule the server, get hero, etc.
You must be over 21 or have the mind of a mature person, and not because we drink heavily or you are required to have sex, in fact exactly because those things should stay away of the clan chat, we play the game, discuss RL issues, joke and have fun in a way that doesnt involve name calling, cursing, threats, religion, sex, skin color, IQ, gender, sexual prefferences, etc. If you are an adult and want to play together with your kid while shielding him/her from the bad environment in the game, this is the place, but we will not accept kids without parents closely watching them.
We dont allow party with bot clans under normal circumstances, however, if your friend in a bot clan needs help with a quest or you help it level (i.e. you give much more than you take in the party) that is acceptable (why would bots need exp from legits that is beyond me, but maybe fresh subs or something)
We dont allow alts in other clans either, but can make exceptions for proven legit clans, same with parties.
You have to understand well and speak a bit of English, if you made it this far, you probably qualify.
While we do not REQUIRE anything from you (force you to come at parties, sieges, or anything for that matter) ppl that constantly help newbies and the clan in general will have a very high priority in their needs, while those that go solo when we have party or constantly refuse to come sieges, raids, help newbies, etc, will be more likely on their own. We aim for togetherness, this doesnt mean we kick solitary ppl, just that you get what you offer, in general.
Rules apply to everyone, including leader and officers. There is nobody above the law, no matter how needed that char is, how important in sieges and parties, etc.
We recruit any level below 78, but for higher levels there will be a checking process if we dont already know you well, and if we found out you lied in the application that will terminate your membership.
Rules are in my sig and you can be sure they are enforced 100% and will also not change in the essence as long as the cheaters are still with us.
Sounds impossible and utopian ? Impossible is nothing if you know clearly your path ahead. So far the clan managed to follow that path and we have clear objectives, even tho the timing is not so acurate. So far we were ahead schedule in most of the cases. For example Kama 78 was scheduled around new year, but we can do it today, one daily regular full party was supposed to happen around this time but we now are close to 2, while regular raids are about on schedule. Next targets are Gracia instance, HB regular parties and kama 81. If all goes well, that will happen around new year time.
If you lost hope and you think this is impossible, come and be surprised :) Check my sig for rules and application !
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You must be over 21 or have the mind of a mature person, and not because we drink heavily or you are required to have sex, in fact exactly because those things should stay away of the clan chat, we play the game, discuss RL issues, joke and have fun in a way that doesnt involve name calling, cursing, threats, religion, sex, skin color, IQ, gender, sexual prefferences, etc. If you are an adult and want to play together with your kid while shielding him/her from the bad environment in the game, this is the place, but we will not accept kids without parents closely watching them.
You discuss RL issues and joke but talking about sex, IQ, skin color, name calling and cursing are prohibited... wait, what??!
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You must be over 21 or have the mind of a mature person, and not because we drink heavily or you are required to have sex, in fact exactly because those things should stay away of the clan chat, we play the game, discuss RL issues, joke and have fun in a way that doesnt involve name calling, cursing, threats, religion, sex, skin color, IQ, gender, sexual prefferences, etc. (...)
Mao ... are you talking ONLY about game?!
Huh, with my jokes I would be banned from your clan after 1 day I guess :D
Good luck ... but you shouldn't call yourself Taliban!
"Nuns monastery" is better!
P.S. Btw never try to enter KJ TeamSpeak ... in fact only one reason why we not force our members to drink heavily or have sex is our CL.
We asked him to put such rule in clan rules but he is an orc and with int+16 whatever we are asking he is responding - huh?!
You discuss RL issues and joke but talking about sex, IQ, skin color, name calling and cursing are prohibited... wait, what??!
Sir, you and your clan(nies) sounds very boring!
Yep, some ppl still believe to this day that a mature thinking and clan cant exist in a game, but some already found out this is possible, just keep the imature cheaters out and everything will work out OK :)
TBH I never expected to pass so fast the level I reached with the old clan, our recruitment requirements and rules are ultra-tough for the regular L2 player, I thought it will take us at least a year to reach this level of activity and membership, but the merger made it possible by bringing more mature ppl together that can have a good time without the usual trash that goes on in other clans.
I will send you all the "Pwnz0rz" and kids that wont make it here, if you want :) Maybe you will understand we are not in competition, no need to try "ruin" our thread, we have very different goals, we aim to recruit very different ppl, 100percent will always be a niche product, we keep out cheaters, kids, rude and stupid ppl that more often than not have all those "qualities" at the same time, kinda All-In-One-Wonder-Pro style. We will only recruit the "tards", "stiffs", "n00bs", "non-factors" and all that "junk" that you, "1337", "cool" and "fun" ppl despise :P
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4. This clan is strictly PvE except situations in which you don't turn purple (sieges, duels, Olympiad, instances and games, etc). The reason for this is that we cant compete with bots in open wars, their exp is easy, ours is not. PK is strictly forbidden and will lead to immediate expulsion, except when you PK your own chars or when it was a clear mistake (TW farming kill from char which does not have war, for instance). If you are attacked, you don't fight back, because that will turn your name purple and the bot will receive free PvP point instead of PK and they will come for more. By "defending yourself" (futile, the bots provoke only ppl they know they will kill easily) you put your clannies in danger because bots will know we give them pvp points instead of pk ones and will come for more.
wow! That is a rule I havent seen before seems abit weird to me, :D
Question: so if someone attacks "me" for example ( if I was in your clan that is ) and attacked back, and killed the person that flagged on me I would get kicked?
No insulting intentended so you know just curios on the rule.
I remember talking once and saying how legits clans could work together and achieve something ( even make 1 huge legit clan ) but scrap that idea reading this lol. I kinda agree with some arguements here but Just let her recruit maybe how she would like to ? Not saying i think all her rules are right,but it's her clan I guess and people will either like em and join or not. I just feel its kinda irony that this legit recruitment thread turns into blah like thread :) :) Honestly, if you scrutinised every single thing written on these forums you could find holes , slander etc everywhere.
PS yeah you did kinda attack people going against your own rules, but you were pushed for an answer in public after being baited on your own recruitment thread and falling for it. Next time just post link to your rules and direct em to your own forum would be my tip :P and ask Sace to clear it up and remove posts. No need for another thread.
I remember talking once and saying how legits clans could work together and achieve something ( even make 1 huge legit clan ) but scrap that idea reading this lol.
Legit doesn't mean "peaceful", neither does it mean "non-competitive", you know? ;)
This thread has been hijacked by fighting, public accusations, and many other forum violations. I am removing all those posts. Further off-topic arguing will result in a thread lock.
wow! That is a rule I havent seen before seems abit weird to me, :D
Question: so if someone attacks "me" for example ( if I was in your clan that is ) and attacked back, and killed the person that flagged on me I would get kicked?
No insulting intentended so you know just curios on the rule.
This clan is fully legit. This means we recruit only legit chars that cant compete in any way with cheaters. As such, we dont give attackers anything else than PK points. Entertaining cheaters was never one of our objectives, we leave that to bot clans and those that recruit "former cheaters" that "turned legit", that allow leeching from bots, raids with them, take and keep castles in a legit way with bot support, etc. They can entertain other cheaters, and they should, otherwise many bots would quit and that would be a shame, right ? If you feel too "Pr0" for a legit clan, perfectly fit to fight cheaters and such, then you should go some other place, no ?
No insulting intended so you know just answering a legitimate curiosity of someone really interested to join a full legit clan, otherwise wouldnt post here, right ?
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Mao I can understand in some way idea to not fight back ... but why always?!
Not that I flame but curiosity.
Suppose that you are at 7x lvl spot and than some guy 7x coming to you start stealing mobs, and then call you bot ant try fight.
Why you force yourself to be passive?
Just in case?
Suppose you building raid - you prepare few days - standing at RB and one **** is coming and PK all of you, just becouse 18 ppl not fight back?!
I would say if there is equal level of opponents there is nothing better like PvP at exp spot :)
Treat it as advice and review that rule. I know many ppl have special PK chars with millions ok Karma already and they not care if it will increase a bit :)
Non sequitur. Being "fully legit" doesn't mean you're not capable and prepared to fight, no matter who wants to fight you.
Yes it does. We do not adhere at some "legit" clans theory that as long as they are not banned, all chars are fully legit, unlike them we are aware there are many (big majority) cheaters in this game/server, therefore the mostly correct asumption would be that ppl that do PvP are cheaters, currently cheating or ppl that cheated in the past (unlike many clans we dont consider "former" cheaters as legit). We have 90% chance to be correct, if we go the other way, there is a 10% chance, therefore we go with the asumption that has the most chances to be true. If we are wrong, nothing happens, the legits get our place, GF, but if we are wrong the other way and fight cheaters we encourage them to cheat more so they keep "owning" "tards" "non-factors" as they call the legits. Ppl cheat for PvP, you dont need to cheat for PvE, it will be slow but more fun to do PvE without cheating, therefore chances to find PvE oriented cheaters are slim at best, all cheaters I know cheat to "own" in PvP, some dont even use bot to exp anymore, only PvP clients, thus, they consider themselves legit now.
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Yes it does. We do not adhere at some "legit" clans theory that as long as they are not banned, all chars are fully legit,
I don't adhere to that "theory" either, for me - and Unity - "legit" means that you never botted (not before Unity either, and yes, I asked people to leave after they admitted to it), never bought adena, never used any PvP program, never cheated any other way - and you're not intending to do so in the future either. That's what my definition is, and that's the kind of people Unity is composed of.
And we still fight. We fight against other legits, against cheaters, against anyone who wants to fight us. We keep on fighting even if there is no chance of winning. Because the kind of people Unity is composed of not only are fully legits, the same you'd like to recruit, but also the kind of people who'd rather die standing, armed and fighting then live on their knees.
Mao I can understand in some way idea to not fight back ... but why always?!
Not that I flame but curiosity.
Suppose that you are at 7x lvl spot and than some guy 7x coming to you start stealing mobs, and then call you bot ant try fight.
Why you force yourself to be passive?
Just in case?
Suppose you building raid - you prepare few days - standing at RB and one **** is coming and PK all of you, just becouse 18 ppl not fight back?!
I would say if there is equal level of opponents there is nothing better like PvP at exp spot :)
Treat it as advice and review that rule. I know many ppl have special PK chars with millions ok Karma already and they not care if it will increase a bit :)
The rule (if you read it) does not forbid killing red. If we have 2 parties at a rb and one red comes or becomes red after first pk, it is dead or autobsoes, unless hero or something. Or maybe it has the whole train with it, in which case we PR if it is permared. One lonely bot can be killed even by legits, one hero bot or a train with level 85 healers/buffers and top gear, even if the red is our level, cant be killed.
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This clan is fully legit. This means we recruit only legit chars that cant compete in any way with cheaters. As such, we dont give attackers anything else than PK points. Entertaining cheaters was never one of our objectives, we leave that to bot clans and those that recruit "former cheaters" that "turned legit", that allow leeching from bots, raids with them, take and keep castles in a legit way with bot support, etc. They can entertain other cheaters, and they should, otherwise many bots would quit and that would be a shame, right ? If you feel too "Pr0" for a legit clan, perfectly fit to fight cheaters and such, then you should go some other place, no ?
No insulting intended so you know just answering a legitimate curiosity of someone really interested to join a full legit clan, otherwise wouldnt post here, right ?
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To Sace: As I saw your cleanup at topic #12. MaoMao at topic #14 open up the discussions again, as you can see above at the quoted.
To MaoMao: Do you know that you are argueing with other legitimate players at moment? All have good reputations as Leonidar, Sercatum, Akjosch and me, are all legitimate players and are not in your clan.
It does exist other legitmates clans out there who do PvP as well. Just because we still fight against others whoever players, does that not make us bad. As you are saying its totally impossible to fight back just because legit player. It's not true.
Maomao, I wish you good luck recruiting with your own clan. As it seemed to be a home for only PvE. But please, don't say all others, inlcuding legitimate players who is not in your clan, are cheaters just they got a spine in the back to fight back in PvP. It does actually exist legitmate players who actually enjoy PvP too and are in legitimate clans as example Ech0, KJ and Unity.
Just to clearify. MaoMao, its not only your way or noone. It's really without respect to others legitimated clans and players. I think this upset many gamers.
Your acusations are baseless. A clan more legit than ours is hard to exist, but that doesnt mean all others are unlegit, just there are different views regarding what legit means. On some a clan is legit, on others, it is not. We have our views, you have yours.
I only say that some clans consider themselves legit while allowing party with bots in any conditions, based on the theory that all chars are legit when they are live and/or still unbanned because only GMs can know who is on bot, that they get bot help at castles, major raids and such. For me that makes them non-legit and the GMs also agree with that view banning all party if it has one bot in it, hence so many "legits" crying out for unfair bans lately. Also, getting level 10 by holding castle with bot help or pay someone to be cl and give the items for that makes the whole clan unlegit, whether you agree with me or not.
Not all clans are non-legit, but clans that do some or all of the above things are not legit in my view and some GM views.
Regarding the PvP aspect, it is still a large gap between what I say and what you want to make it look like I am saying as any unbiased reader that doesnt want to ruin this thread will notice.
That being said, a legit clan can do PvP, we just opt-out of it because we are not keen to give the bots what they are looking for, i.e. push this button, obtain what you want (flag and get PvP, KS and get PvP) we are not bot puppets and refuse to dance on their tune, we are strong enough to not care about losing exp, we can PR having all the time PR available but we dont do it, we dont give up dignity to lower ourselves to their level and do what they want us to do, ignoring them is the best practice, they will get their PK point(s), we may try to kill red, that is about it.
All in all, if you want to continue do this, we will, you say how bad we are because we dont do PvP and refuse any bot interaction outside market, we will show how legit other legits are. Your choice, since you started it.
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P.S. I can only hope that Sace will clean up theis thread and leave only the posts from legitimate ppl that come to get informed, not those that try to ruin it to make themselves look better.
Actually, you are the one who actually opened up the discussion again, MaoMao at #14, by asking Leonidar at quoted replies. If you do asking, you will get replies from people. Simple.
The way of thinking seemed to be to extreme for my taste. It's like if a legit player, do playing with others in sieges, will become unlegit, just because it might exist other players there who is not. This extreme thinking will cause in your way to get everyone are unlegit including yourself MaoMao. Let me explain, just take the market as an example. Have you ever bougth or sold an item on the buy/sell stores on the market in example Giran? How do you know if your buyers or sellers are complitly legits in the game? The fact is you dont know that! But its not giving you the rights to accuse everyone else around you and who is not in your clan to be cheaters. That is without any respect to the players who are actually playing this game in a legitimate way.
Back to the topic: Legit PvE clan lf members. Wish you good luck.
Actually, you are the one who actually opened up the discussion again, MaoMao at #14, by asking Leonidar at quoted replies. If you do asking, you will get replies from people. Simple.
The way of thinking seemed to be to extreme for my taste. It's like if a legit player, do playing with others in sieges, will become unlegit, just because it might exist other players there who is not. This extreme thinking will cause in your way to get everyone are unlegit including yourself MaoMao. Let me explain, just take the market as an example. Have you ever bougth or sold an item on the buy/sell stores on the market in example Giran? How do you know if your buyers or sellers are complitly legits in the game? The fact is you dont know that! But its not giving you the rights to accuse everyone else around you and who is not in your clan to be cheaters. That is without any respect to the players who are actually playing this game in a legitimate way.
I am not acusing anyone, I just say what you think is legit, is not in my view and in some aspects GMs agree with me. That is all, you can be legit in your way, I can be in mine.
Back to the topic: Legit PvE clan lf members. Wish you good luck.
Yes, he asked and he got reply from me. I didnt open anything, he came here to spam, I answered the same way. Sace missed his post as she didnt manage to clean mine completely so I did that, but leonidar didnt delete his spam. I am not afraid to show how legit some ppl are, I do believe that leeching from bots, getting bot help in raids, sieges, enlisting "former" bots, ppl that admit botting and buying adena, those are in no way the legit ways, sure, your taste differs, that is what I aknowledge. Fighting in a castle siege does not make anyone unlegit UNLESS your clan gets bot help to take the castle, with benefitting from that as much as raising clan level. While only manor wont make all ppl unlegit, clan level aquired that way will.
Regarding market, i already answered that. My adenas are legit, I buy at fair prices, I sell similarly, in RL you may never know if your buck was never changing hands of drug dealers, murderers, beeing stolen, etc, that is not your business, however, if you help them in any way or accept donations or make arrangements for deliveries, whatever, that is very different, even if your taste says differently.
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P.S. Once again, you want to continue this, fine, you can continue to spam, I will continue to expose the "legitimacy" of some ppl, lets see :) I wish you good luck, you will need it...
P.S. 2 I dont acuse anyone, I just said that some things you consider legit I dont see the same way, your opinions differ, fine. You say that not fighting bots is living in our knees, I say it means depriving them of one thing they want most, it is just a different way to see things. I will never believe that ppl can become legit after cheating otherwise than starting another account and delete completely everything they had, I will never believe that a castle taken with bot help by a legit clan is legit, nor that Tiat's drops and exp are legit as long as bots took part in the raid and didnt get all drops at least. You wont convince me that is legit, I wont convince you it isnt, therefore why are you on this thread again ? I didnt come on yours to express my "curiosity", did I ? And I have the decency not to go there, no matter what you do here because there are probably legit and decent ppl over there that are not responsible for your behaviour.
P.S. 3 LF Sace to clean all thread except the original post because ALL the follow-ups are spams in this thread in my view. Including my replies to that spam.
(...)I will never believe (...) that Tiat's drops and exp are legit as long as bots took part in the raid and didnt get all drops at least.
Seriously Miss, you should consider chill out.
I took that part as example.
We do Tiat internally as ally without any "enchanter" and believe me is not any rocket science.
You may believe that all around are bots but please stop spreading that paranoiac seeds around.
Tbh I don't understand why some botters play that game while they not find any fun in grind nor even in hand-based pvp. But reading yours post I think "why he hell you are even login to game" while all around is/was build/possessed/owned by ppl who are bots were bots or going be bots.
Reading your post I have a vision of Naia.
4523 bots and 24 potentially not bots (all in your clan) and ONE legit.
Seriously slow down with accusing all around.
P.S. btw have fun whatever you going to do and bb from here :)
You may believe that all around are bots but please stop spreading that paranoiac seeds around.
I dont believe, nor say that. It is what the straw man said, not me. And if it was like that and I believed that, why should I stop saying what I believe ? Because you dont like my opinion ? I dont like yours either, I think a legit clan means much-much more than just ppl that dont use bot (anymore), but I dont come to your recruiting threads to say so.
I think there are many legit ppl around, but much more cheaters than legits. I didnt say you are a bot clan, nor do I believe that, but even if I did, I wouldnt have come to your clan recruiting thread to satisfy my "curiosity", nor ask you why x and y are still there, it is entirely your business, as this thread should be entirely our business. You can have your castles, Tiat, whatever, we can have our forts, sobekk and the like, etc. You dont like we exp some places and we do some RBs, come and PK us like you threatened in FoG, action not threats, show us how strong you are, how well you can clean the server of some "scum", we know it very well, tho. Unity, as well, feels in competition with us, that honours us to see how important we suddenly became that leaders of well established old clans feel the need to spoil our recruiting thread and then complain that I tell them what I believe.
As promissed, I wont come to ruin your recruiting thread, but every time you come again here to ruin this, you will get the deserved answer, thanks for your visit.
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"Spam"? I consider a lot of follow-up posts as valuable information. For example, it was interesting to see that your clan considers anyone with karma to be exempt from the "We don't attack anyone" rule. This is, seriously, not what I would expect.
And seriously, if you don't like a discussion about your clan and it's place in the server, why even open up a thread about your clan here? These are the Server Discussion forums, they are here so we can discuss. Clan recruitment/information threads are over at the Clan Recruitment Hall (http://boards.lineage2.com/forumdisplay.php?f=219).
tl;dr: If you don't like to discuss, don't post in discussion forums.
"Spam"? I consider a lot of follow-up posts as valuable information. For example, it was interesting to see that your clan considers anyone with karma to be exempt from the "We don't attack anyone" rule. This is, seriously, not what I would expect.
And seriously, if you don't like a discussion about your clan and it's place in the server, why even open up a thread about your clan here? These are the Server Discussion forums, they are here so we can discuss. Clan recruitment/information threads are over at the Clan Recruitment Hall (http://boards.lineage2.com/forumdisplay.php?f=219).
tl;dr: If you don't like to discuss, don't post in discussion forums.
Unless you are looking for a clan, as well as your allies, then you have no business here. This thread is for legit ppl genuinely interested to join a legit PvE clan, they may ask questions and get answers, something impossible in Sace's maintained thread.
Feel free to open a separate thread for showing how bad we are if you want to discuss that in detail. Basically you say we should PvP cheaters because there is a chance of winning, but you also say that the only way to win is not to play. We are winning all the time not playing cheater's game, while you may win sometimes, but lose also. I think that playing as they want you to play is losing even if you win PvP, but that is another matter.
We have no "we dont attack anyone rule" Just the rule that forbids PvP in situations where we turn purple. Dont know what you want to discuss if you didnt read the rules. If you would have read that rule you would have had the answer already, but you didnt, you came here with other objectives and everyone could see it.
The essence of what you and your allies say on our recruiting thread is this: "we do PvP and beat bots to it, we are cool, 100Percent doesnt entertain cheaters, they suck, come join a real clan !", ok, I think everyone got that message from the other 10 posts you and your allies made on this "question", something else you may wanna add on that subject ?
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So Mao, you are saying that per our clan rules it is not allowed to fight back if another toon flags, your clan member are not allowed to fight back, but if they come back to the hunting spot and see a "red" toon then they are allowed to fight back.
/if that is the case, then I think that all the clans regardless if they are legit or not, will flag on your clan members just because if they do not move and if your clan members do not move from the hunting spot they will kicked from your clan.
//you QQ about the comments in this thread... if you did not want drama, you would have PM'd Sace to add your recruitment info to the sticky thread, but being who you are.. well...
///really if you want to have your clan as you say it is, then I could see it being a clan of just close friends, so no need to add other people, otherwise reform your clan as a "RP" clan... (no disrespect to those real RP clans of course).
Unless you are looking for a clan, as well as your allies, then you have no business here. This thread is for legit ppl genuinely interested to join a legit PvE clan, they may ask questions and get answers, something impossible in Sace's maintained thread.
And they get answers. Since your clan doesn't exist in empty space, and how people see your clan colours their opinion about your clan members, and vice versa, discussions about your clan is an important information point for potential new members. How do others see my clan? How does my future clan leader behave in respect to others, how do the members? All those are important questions answered in this thread, in its discussion.
Also: You're not a mod here, don't try to act like one. ;)
@Cabbie: 100percent's clan info already is in the sticky, as far as I can see.
So Mao, you are saying that per our clan rules it is not allowed to fight back if another toon flags, your clan member are not allowed to fight back, but if they come back to the hunting spot and see a "red" toon then they are allowed to fight back.
/if that is the case, then I think that all the clans regardless if they are legit or not, will flag on your clan members just because if they do not move and if your clan members do not move from the hunting spot they will kicked from your clan.
//you QQ about the comments in this thread... if you did not want drama, you would have PM'd Sace to add your recruitment info to the sticky thread, but being who you are.. well...
///really if you want to have your clan as you say it is, then I could see it being a clan of just close friends, so no need to add other people, otherwise reform your clan as a "RP" clan... (no disrespect to those real RP clans of course).
Wow, another potential recruit... Thanks for your interest in joining our clan...
Now, I dont know what to answer you because the question is not clear. We did not leave yesterday from our exp spot, we rezzed a rezzer which didnt accept rez yet and we waited the bots to leave. We also tried to kill red, but they were a full train of a top bot clan, it wasnt possible. After the train left we rezzed each other and in 5 min had the exp back even at vita 0. Bot got bored and left to AFK some more (AFK bots cant level properly if the live ppl dont leave the spot, because we will always take their mobs, so they have to chase away the legits before setting up the train for exp, failing to do that, need to find another place), we finished our levels and went to town for skills and noble (one char reached 75). Since the train is usually a one man show it is not so fast to kill all rezzers, we can rez at least one of them during the time bot PKs us and we try to kill red (mostly to keep it busy, not because we have a real chance to kill it).
That is one example of how we handle the bots that PK. I dont know if it answered your question, because I didnt understand it.
Regarding Sace's thread, we are present there, however, that doesnt allow potential recruits, such as yourself, to come and ask questions. Applications are here: http://www.100percent.info/viewforum.php?f=4 please fill the form and we will see if you qualify to be given a chance in our clan !
And they get answers. Since your clan doesn't exist in empty space, and how people see your clan colours their opinion about your clan members, and vice versa, discussions about your clan is an important information point for potential new members. How do others see my clan? How does my future clan leader behave in respect to others, how do the members? All those are important questions answered in this thread, in its discussion.
I am glad I could assist you answering your genuinely interested questions before you join ! Also, many thanks for your interest in joining us ! See above for the link to recruitment forum, fill the form and we will see if you qualify !
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If the guy you are talking about was really a bot do you realy think losing a few houres of xp whould bother them?
Anything bothers them. Including reporting and petitioning+frapsing while exping "legit".
A bot is too cool to share the room with "tards", so, unless fully AFK, it will try to chase away the legits, better share the room with AFK "enemies" than legits. "Enemies" are unlikely to petition, in Franz the petition war was lost by the guys that started it, they lost much more bots than the "enemy", so they are more confident to share room with ppl that might PK them or use an alt clan without wars than tolerate legits. The more legits that have no fear of reports, the more problems for the bots, therefore they try to clear the servers from "scum" by repeatedly PKing, and the ppl that do not care for that are the most dangerous.
Bots managed to destroy some partly legit clans in Franz by killing them all over, however, a really legit clan that has no wars and doesnt fight back as well as not care for PKs is a much tougher nut to crack, that is why we only recruit ppl that have their spine and brains to refuse to play as the bots want.
Ppl which are acting as the bots want them to act are not welcome here, that is why I repeatedly said we are in no competiton with anyone regarding recruiting.
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This isn't Franz, MaoMao. In fact, Naia is closer to Teon 2.0. Given the age of the servers as well as their relative populations, we Teonians have way more experience fighting and hurting botters effectively than anyone from Franz or Luna would ever have.
Good luck with your clan, and good luck dealing with them your way. Don't just blindly assume it's the only way though, because you're talking with a few people here who dealt with worse, and still came out ahead.
This isn't Franz, MaoMao. In fact, Naia is closer to Teon 2.0. Given the age of the servers as well as their relative populations, we Teonians have way more experience fighting and hurting botters effectively than anyone from Franz or Luna would ever have.
Good luck with your clan, and good luck dealing with them your way. Don't just blindly assume it's the only way though, because you're talking with a few people here who dealt with worse, and still came out ahead.
This isn't Franz, MaoMao. In fact, Naia is closer to Teon 2.0. Given the age of the servers as well as their relative populations, we Teonians have way more experience fighting and hurting botters effectively than anyone from Franz or Luna would ever have.
Good luck with your clan, and good luck dealing with them your way. Don't just blindly assume it's the only way though, because you're talking with a few people here who dealt with worse, and still came out ahead.
hehe, who didnt... I started in Kain 5 years ago and it was so bad that you couldnt even level d graders properly, such was the bot infestation then, all catas packed, all dion packed, we discovered rift tho, that is much harder to script.
And, of course, there were the PK at dion gates, in EV, etc... I was in ng till level 25, using a ng mage blunt for my dwarf, each PK was much more important then...
I have seen worse, now it is no longer that bad, as such, nothing scares a real veteran.
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you making your own decision what is legit and what is not. PPL who consider themselves as legit and don't fit your definition feel offended.
in the end, there is only ONE definition of being legit:
STICK 100% TO THE EULA
wbr. Nam
P.S. no offense, just a question: do you kick ppl in your clan that share accounts?
As per HGM Spam clarification about sharing accounts, that rule is there for our protection. Once we share accounts we waiver that protection, simple. I wish I didnt do it, we would have had clan level 9 and 2 Bn+ of assets on top of what we have now. Tough luck, I move on, I dont cry "HAXX0RZ !" and ask our items back, I took the blow and I am really sorry for the other legits that suffered because of my mistake.
Regarding the secondary aspect, that of me judging what is legit and what is not, I have GM support on that interpretation, they ban the whole party of the bot(s) no matter if there are "legits" there or not, and, even so, this is our thread, I can layout in front of OUR potential recruits what THIS clan considers to be legit to avoid confusion later. The fact that other ppl felt obliged to come here and say that is not true, that you can be legit even if you leech from bots and level clan with their help is beyond my power to stop and i wouldnt stop it even if I could, we have arguments, logical arguments, not the "this is how it is, everybody does that, you cant achieve anything, or even play at all, without" argument, they can have their opinions, I just give arguments on why WE consider that wrong, and why WE think there is a legit way, one that doesnt involve bots in any part of our journey in this game, WE can play without the bots, if others cant, their business, not ours.
They should write in their recruiting threads how bad we are that we dont play as the cheaters want and how cool they are that they do, as well as how impossible it is to play without the bots and how the game will die if they are banned, this is not the place for that, and i will continue to show that to everyone that feels compelled to explain us how bad we are because we stay as away as possible from the corrupted game environment, effectively playing another game than the big majority. This is OUR decision, WE will make sure potential recruits meet OUR requirements, this is an exclusive club, not just the regular clan, there are plenty of those, two a penny.
We have the will AND arguments to sustain our way of thinking, playing, we will stand hard as a rock against all attempts to prove us that L2 cant exist without the cheaters, that we MUST play as they do in order to have fun, that we MUST PvP when others want (cheaters or legits alike), that we suck without it, etc. There is no other clan like ours, there will never be, we dont seek aproval, nor do we think we will win anything from this game apart from some time together with friends in an enhanced IM service.
Only ppl that see beyond the surface, that have the vast experience required to understand what is happening in this game, that played other MMOs extensively and understood well the complicated mechanisms that drive the overall satisfaction of playing a game, that can be satisfied and happy even if the cheaters win all the time, that can ignore them, can understand them better than they understand themselves, only those ppl, mature, educated, "out of the box" thinkers, those form the hardcore of this clan, and while we will remain small overall, we will evaluate 10+ ppl every month to find the rare gamers that fit our clan and will MAKE a clan like no other. We grow slow, will never be masters of Naia or however the merged Chronos-Naia server will be called, a tiny minority here, but we are proud that WE CAN without "working", while others cant, even when they try. The simple fact they consider us a threat and feel they should spam our thread shows how little they understand our ways, in spite of my reasonable efforts to explain we are in no competition here, we are looking for very different ppl than they seek, it wont help their recruiting in any way if they spam our thread...
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This is a recruitment thread, not a place to debate who did what to whom, who's legit, or any other disagreements. If you have questions for the recruiter, PM them.