So, I read over the official preliminary patch notes, and there is one glaring obvious thing that I would like to query?
The ONLY reason you would take a pp over a WC, is for berserker spirit (below lv 83 this is, and let's face it great fury is crazy good anyway)
But in the patch notes WC gets berserker spirit, and the one skill pp is desperately lacking to becoming viable (VR) has not been given to prophets. This is without even mentioning that OL are now getting attack speed increase as well, realistically now placing them above prophets in usefulness.
Is there any plans to give pp something like blood awakening in H5, perhaps in the later parts? Or should i give up on my pp entirely now ^_^?
So, I read over the official preliminary patch notes, and there is one glaring obvious thing that I would like to query?
The ONLY reason you would take a pp over a WC, is for berserker spirit (below lv 83 this is, and let's face it great fury is crazy good anyway)
But in the patch notes WC gets berserker spirit, and the one skill pp is desperately lacking to becoming viable (VR) has not been given to prophets. This is without even mentioning that OL are now getting attack speed increase as well, realistically now placing them above prophets in usefulness.
Is there any plans to give pp something like blood awakening in H5, perhaps in the later parts? Or should i give up on my pp entirely now ^_^?
um no u would take a pp for counter crit and element resist buffs, and considering a cc pp is one of the most wanted supports in the game, i dont think they are shafted (plus they get another useful debuff)
Except for the fact that WC's also get the Elemental Protection buff also. The individual buffs just aren't that important anymore in the face of x3 attributes on armour. Unless you're not in end-game gear yet that is.
Nope, PP is even more dead than it was before after High 5. Hang in there though! Give it a few updates and PP's will get dagger mastery skills like Spoilers or some other ridiculous band-aid... Or not.
Counter Crit is gorgeous but you can box a PP for that. If you're doing a raid Instance or something, then 1 PP can buff the entire raid force of however many parties with CC and that's the party that will get and live with only the lol-OL buffs.
If you're doing something that only involves 1 party and you can't box the PP oop (instance or something), then you probably don't need Counter Crit anyway. Even for PvP you can leave it in town or run it out behind you untagged.
Basically no one needs to ever play this thing live.
Is there any plans to give pp something like blood awakening in H5, perhaps in the later parts? Or should i give up on my pp entirely now ^_^?
not in H5 (part 1- 4) but in Goddess of Destruction will the blood awakening skills be introduced, no info is available yet on the buffer class only dd tanks & mages have been getting a preview but every week more is posted, check below url..
in Korea there are more ppl play active pp then dc/ol which is why the orcs get more boost all the time, not much we can do about as NA feedback isn't relevant compared to the Asian market.
having good friends who like u and enjoy playing with is best way to get through the grind & have some fun.. ok true if I didn't say that my 85 Heirophanty friend would pk me when am not watching ^^"
Basically no one needs to ever play this thing live.
Any class can be boxed trust me.. I've seen healers box dd's or even groups where bd/sws/pp/se and or dc were all boxed so it's safe to say that by default no class is truly needed live in L2.
this is a MMO, go find friends be persistent even if they're new/noob/lowbie w/e given time anyone can be something in this game.. all you need to have some fun is 1 or 2 ppl that are fun to play with
I must ask Sace and Cia to realy pay attention on this situation. Prophet needs to have all single target buffs avaiable in this game including the combos. For god sake, the only thing a prophet do well is buff.
How many times we need to ask and talk about this till we that have prophets, even boxed ones, got some attention?
Here is the list of all the single target buffs prophet misses:
6 basic buffs, is this ask too much for a class that only got **** during years??
But please dont let us wait till GoD to get this cause this expansion will only be avaiable probably in more 2 years in north america...
Except for the fact that WC's also get the Elemental Protection buff also. The individual buffs just aren't that important anymore in the face of x3 attributes on armour. Unless you're not in end-game gear yet that is.
Nope, PP is even more dead than it was before after High 5. Hang in there though! Give it a few updates and PP's will get dagger mastery skills like Spoilers or some other ridiculous band-aid... Or not.
Counter Crit is gorgeous but you can box a PP for that. If you're doing a raid Instance or something, then 1 PP can buff the entire raid force of however many parties with CC and that's the party that will get and live with only the lol-OL buffs.
If you're doing something that only involves 1 party and you can't box the PP oop (instance or something), then you probably don't need Counter Crit anyway. Even for PvP you can leave it in town or run it out behind you untagged.
Basically no one needs to ever play this thing live.
go try any dragon or freya hard mode, and ill bet your wanting +30 resist buffs along with your 3x 120 vesper armor, along with cc.
pp's are the best end game buffer when paired with an se, hands down.
go try any dragon or freya hard mode, and ill bet your wanting +30 resist buffs along with your 3x 120 vesper armor, along with cc.
Any success story to share with us? :rolleyes:
Since the element change there is a max on how much you can reduce from the elemental damage on pve, and if im not wrong its the maximum damage reduction stoped near 220 element or something like that.
Since the element change there is a max on how much you can reduce from the elemental damage on pve, and if im not wrong its the maximum damage reduction stoped near 220 element or something like that.
the element damage is not capped for the higher end raids, they can have mroe than 300 element attack
normal pve areas yes, but i wasnt talking about normal pve areas, i was talking about epic raids
i know its not possible without the resist buffs because hard freya alone has around 600 water element attacks
...and when the Prophet buffs +30 resists on the last stage of Frintezza raid, Halisha must be one-shotting for less damage. So don't even try it without lvl 85 PP :rolleyes:
I don't know about how far people managed to explore the hard Freya raid, but for the dragons the problem is in the boss HP regen, and not in the element defense of the raid force.
Hard Mode Freya, Anthy & Valakas are all nerved in H5 part 4, if the changes are enough so ppl can actually beat them is another but then they'll be "easier" to kill :)
Stop asking for Prophet love. There is not any coming, just like the last 5 chronicles. It's a dead class with no real use outside of Counter Critical and Resist buffs as of Hi5.
Unless you want to wait 1-3 years for Goddess of Destruction, I suggest rerolling to Warcryer/Dominator or another class type altogether.
Orphan, how many PPs do you have? For a Dead Class, there are sure a lot of PPs and a lot being played, if not as mains. I personally prefer them, but then I've had one, and played it as main, in a support role, for over 3 years. Since I don't have an DC or Domi yet, can't compare, but right now, I'm looking to sub some toon as a second PP so I can have the buffs for all my toons.
And I'm quite happy with what my PP has. She does fine, thanks.
So, I read over the official preliminary patch notes, and there is one glaring obvious thing that I would like to query?
The ONLY reason you would take a pp over a WC, is for berserker spirit (below lv 83 this is, and let's face it great fury is crazy good anyway)
But in the patch notes WC gets berserker spirit, and the one skill pp is desperately lacking to becoming viable (VR) has not been given to prophets. This is without even mentioning that OL are now getting attack speed increase as well, realistically now placing them above prophets in usefulness.
Is there any plans to give pp something like blood awakening in H5, perhaps in the later parts? Or should i give up on my pp entirely now ^_^?
mana burn, resists ,blocks, and Counter critical.Grater fury is nothing in compare with CC:P
The problem here only that we haven't so much Prophet players as Warcryer. Lets imagine the Chant of Elemental buff won't be so strong resist attribute agaisnt wind, water, fire and maybe earth with 20 attribute bonus. This is nothing. the DC will can gives maybe +20 fire resist example the HP gives resist fire +30 attri (at overenchanted form on +30 it will mean about +100 fire resist) next of them the Elemental Protection is gives too +20 resist these together about +120 resist now the PPs will get resist earth too will very useful these skill in Crypt of Disgrace, Stakato Nest, in the new Dragon's Valley and Antharas Lair. Now that in the Freya the attribute resist is more stronger these buffs has became more stronger too.
Next of them the Counter Critical it can be really useful on hardest raid bosses, bigger pole parties can save life!
The newest Hierophant skill can be again very useful at raid bosses or at pvps.
And at the end. The Augments. If a Hierophant can get Greater Heal, Party Recall, Medusa or and attacking spell or if they has all these augments together, they are rocks in PVP!
But, be here a not so good thing. Now many new players who want start any buffer class they will start Warcryer. Next of this now that the WC at lower levels maybe better as PP the new players who start PP will can find party more harder and they can XPing more slowly too.
funny thing for me is that's it so much easier to box a dc then a hiero, meaning I enjoy & appreciate my live hierophanty when she's online quite a lot ^^
funny thing for me is that's it so much easier to box a dc then a hiero, meaning I enjoy & appreciate my live hierophanty when she's online quite a lot ^^
I wouldnt trade my live almost 84 pp for anything either. MUCH more useful than a dc aside from no party summon, but thats fixable
basically no one needs to ever play this thing live.
qft
And at the end. The Augments. If a Hierophant can get Greater Heal, Party Recall, Medusa or and attacking spell or if they has all these augments together, they are rocks in PVP!
Give augments to everyone else and PP will go back to being ****
ppl i will repeat it once more!pp are more usefull than u think!i play 4 years pp(3 on official) and i'm really happy with this class!and cc>all buffs!ty!if any active pp wants to talk about pp tips,pm ingame(naia) or here!btw +1 on hyper on all posts!
Orphan, how many PPs do you have? For a Dead Class, there are sure a lot of PPs and a lot being played, if not as mains. I personally prefer them, but then I've had one, and played it as main, in a support role, for over 3 years. Since I don't have an DC or Domi yet, can't compare, but right now, I'm looking to sub some toon as a second PP so I can have the buffs for all my toons.
And I'm quite happy with what my PP has. She does fine, thanks.
I have a prophet and I wish it was a doomcryer, but alas the toon is 5 years old and prophets were actually good back then. You should try playing a buffer that actually has useful buffs (VR for one) and buffs x10 faster, but hey if you like the gimp class then all the more power to you.
The most strongest argument any non-PP user got, is "bah, PP have Counter Critical, it is overpowered imba buff to pwn everything!".
But you never say that it is Lv 83 skill. You have to take that level and to farm tokens for the book before the next things (if you are not a boxed char):
- Heya mate, wanna join our const? <3
- Please come to our clan sweety~
- We will gear you up, will always have you at every big farm event and PvP fun. Come to us! ^^
- etc.
Yeah, make your 83 Lv (we don't care how) and have your sweet cake we cooked for you. Enjoy.
The only class that feels good with PP as the only buffer is an archer one. They don't need emp, VR or stigma. Well, PP don't have Resist Shock, but being overbuffed you shall kill anything before it comes to you.
Mages need emp, Wild Magic, recharge. Melee class need VR, Resist Shock, better Bless Shield and the second shield buff, maybe stigma too and ofc decent heal.
So PP cannot be so good at small parties with mages until 76 and with mages and close range types after 76. PP shines just okay in a large parties where you can get other useful buffs - with EE/SE/DC/OL in party. But mostly they are needed for CC and attr resist for raids.
Except for the few strong RBs, where else you may need elemental resist buffs? Ofc if you are not in A grade or something like that with no attr in armor.
New trigger passive skill for PP in H5 is trying to say that PP must be more like a warrior in a solo or small exp parties where any help is useful. But for god's sake, give them VR or "it" will die after third mob if not earlier.
And PP not having Improved Critical buff... The most non-logical thing in game I have seen so far. The most.