High Five and Cross Class skills. Future of balance.

What are some of your opinions on these recent changes made to class skills on the premise of balance during pvp? And do you think these will be the last changes to be crossed between classes in the future?

Cross-Class skills

The following existing skills are now available to additional classes:
Aegis Stance (level 46)
Dark Avenger
Rush (level 40)
Warlord
Gladiator
Destroyer
Tyrant
Warsmith
Rush Impact (level 83, 85 for Titan)
Dreadnought
Duelist
Titan
Grand Khavatari
Maestro
Dagger Mastery (level 20)
Bounty Hunter
Dual Dagger Mastery (level 81)
Fortune Seeker
Deadly Blow (level 40)
Bounty Hunter
Back Stab (level 40)
Bounty Hunter

Personally I have nothing against dwarves getting backstab, and dagger masteries.

However giving more classes rush/rush impact will in my opinion seriously impede the racial benefits of some classes. Elves with they're fast running speed will pretty much be put down even further now because of rush, and its 0 reuse cycle. As if elves werent low enough on the racial balance scale. Thanks for your opinions.

it is lack of creativity.... soon each char get same skills - just different textures :(

rush 0 sec only on kamales - other class 3 sec (20 sec rush impact)

rush 0 sec only on kamales - other class 3 sec (20 sec rush impact)

for me.. DIAF and FU to "Chickens" - one quest for class change.. yea.. still bitter over that... let them get nerfed to PP status...

Lol. Even post nerf, the well-played and high-level/geared kamaels will still beat the **** out of 80% of the other classes...

these cross class skills are just pure laziness from developers, they could have developed much better skills for BH instead of making him a wannabe dagger

i wanna see porphets get cross class buffs like VR also.

is that too dificult?

i wanna see porphets get cross class buffs like VR also.

is that too dificult?

Yes.

And please, try to spell prophets correctly lol.

NC Soft will still be changing stuff, there are some tweeks in H5 part4 and the Revenge of Shilien update will have all the bloodlust skills which are supposed to have a huge impact (not all of them are known yet aka the majority isn't)..

i wanna see porphets get cross class buffs like VR also.

is that too dificult?
give prophets VR and Recharge and no one would ever need a Se again

give prophets VR and Recharge and no one would ever need a Se again

Bless the Blood, stigma, some healing, WM, 4 extra skills, etc... I am not sure there wont be anyone willing to have SE after that.
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PvP balance has never existed in Lineage 2.
And probably never will.
So it doesn't matter what the new skills do.

If you want PvP balance you have to look at other ncsoft games, guildwars being the prime example of very good balance. But as you are no doubt aware the whole reason this game is played rather then guildwars, is because it offers much more grind and customisation, and reward for effort. Guildwars is also restricted, in terms of 8 skills max etc, and complimentary skillsets. The two things are very hard to fuse, and I have yet to see a game with both pvp balance and playability/replayability.

PvP balance has never existed in Lineage 2.
And probably never will.
So it doesn't matter what the new skills do.

Truth.


I'd like to add that the 'future of balance' wont be too different from how it is currently. Nukers will still spam 2 buttons to win and kamael will still be ******ed broken with no skill required. Prophets are still borderline useless and DoomCriers become gods. Only a matter of time before OverLords outstrip the prophet too at this rate.

The koreans dont take the pvp as seriously as we seem to, so dont get your hopes up everyone.

i wanna see porphets get cross class buffs like VR also.

is that too dificult?

Is porphets a new class in high 5? I haven't read the patch notes

The koreans dont take the pvp as seriously as we seem to, so dont get your hopes up everyone.

Koreans take it way more seriously then we do as they live in a warzone which is precisely why they're not prone to it and the pvp aspect of the game will actually get changed significantly in the future with the Goddess of Destruction update.

porkheads?? with VR ??? ^^