Helloj looking for info.
I know in high5 non pole users get a nerf with less targets per swing, but I heard yesterday that there will be a dmg nerf for non pole users as well.
I know "rumors and all" but anyone can confirm if this is true or not, and if it is true a source would be nice. thanks in advance.
Tbh, they should just make classes with no pole mastery can only hit 1 mob at a time with a pole :D
Neah, that would be too extreme, the weapon itself should allow for multiple targets, no matter the clas of poler. If we go that way, only archers should be able to fire a bow, others missing every single time. 3 targets seem like OK.
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Neah, that would be too extreme, the weapon itself should allow for multiple targets, no matter the clas of poler. If we go that way, only archers should be able to fire a bow, others missing every single time. 3 targets seem like OK.
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I wouldn't mind they nerf non-archer classes (with no bow mastery and lower penalty for classes with lower bow mastery) with bow use, as it has been suggested before. Mystic class do have a nerf with bow using with the update from years ago... :rolleyes:
I wouldn't mind they nerf non-archer classes (with no bow mastery and lower penalty for classes with lower bow mastery) with bow use, as it has been suggested before. Mystic class do have a nerf with bow using with the update from years ago... :rolleyes:
From what i have seen, bows on non-archers are nerfed enough, havent seen orcs exping with bows, for instance, but its use is to pull sometimes and in Oly to hit fast targets impossible to reach otherwise.
However, pole targetting nerf for non-polers was long overdue, archers and daggers should not use it to level, and I am pretty much sure they wont be able to do so except in some very weird circumstances. There was another pole targetting nerf long ago, but looks like not good enough.
What i dont agree with is nerf for polers. Why do they have to have nerf regarding targets, since poling is the only thing they can do properly (some of them) ? VR has been nerfed for polers in the past, also. Agreed, level with pole is the best way to level, and will continue to be, but that is the function of polers, would there be any if they would not be able to fulfill this function ? Are they good at anything else ? AoE mages are already replacing polers in some areas, I think this nerf wasnt necessary.
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From what i have seen, bows on non-archers are nerfed enough, havent seen orcs exping with bows, for instance, but its use is to pull sometimes and in Oly to hit fast targets impossible to reach otherwise.
However, pole targetting nerf for non-polers was long overdue, archers and daggers should not use it to level, and I am pretty much sure they wont be able to do so except in some very weird circumstances. There was another pole targetting nerf long ago, but looks like not good enough.
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Actually most warrior class wouldn't really need to (mainly pvp) when the next patch goes live, since they added Rush. Oh and I've been in a party with an orc that used a bow to exp (and no it's not a dagger/archer sub), it's a GK lol. He was able to 2-4 shot x3/4 hp mobs. That was more than a year ago though as I did take a year break from the game.
Actually most warrior class wouldn't really need to (mainly pvp) when the next patch goes live, since they added Rush. Oh and I've been in a party with an orc that used a bow to exp (and no it's not a dagger/archer sub), it's a GK lol. He was able to 2-4 shot x3/4 hp mobs. That was more than a year ago though as I did take a year break from the game.
GK needing bow... That is even more weird than a titan since they have ranged attack and better speed overall.
But, whatever floats their boat, I am sure a really determined archer can pole in nonpole rooms in GC if they want to, for high exp mobs, killing 2-3 at a time is probably enough... No matter how crazy that is, there will be ppl doing it just for fun :P
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as it is right now an archer or a dagger kill faster with a pole than a Dwarf or a Warlord for me the nerf on the classes with no pole mastery is very welcome, what I am not agree with is that they reduce the targets the real polers can hit at the time, if at least the VR bonus was higher that will be ok, but as always we just need to adapt
From what i have seen, bows on non-archers are nerfed enough, havent seen orcs exping with bows, for instance,
The archers I know prefer to melee exp with those orcs too :rolleyes:
GK needing bow... That is even more weird than a titan since they have ranged attack and better speed overall.
But, whatever floats their boat, I am sure a really determined archer can pole in nonpole rooms in GC if they want to, for high exp mobs, killing 2-3 at a time is probably enough... No matter how crazy that is, there will be ppl doing it just for fun :P
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A GK in Bison Pre C4 would one shot a lot o players, same as Titans in Frenzy, but those old times...
as it is right now an archer or a dagger kill faster with a pole than a Dwarf or a Warlord for me the nerf on the classes with no pole mastery is very welcome, what I am not agree with is that they reduce the targets the real polers can hit at the time, if at least the VR bonus was higher that will be ok, but as always we just need to adapt
Most pole classes can oe skills to get more targets right?
I still think they should nerf non-polers to 2 targets.
for warlords atleast the nerf is negligible. Sure I go from 15 to 13 targets, but with Fel Swoop on they would still hit 18, and even +1 on polearm mastery makes it 19 targets to hit.
Both polearm mastery and fell swoop (selfbuff) can be enchanted to hit more targets.
And if the difference between 18 and 20 targets that you hit is too big to lvl where you are now, then you probably never were really suited to go there anyway. Because that tiny bit of VR wouldn't save you.
As for titans, they can do so much dmg even with a pole that they really shouldn't need much healing regardless.
And on a dagger with decent evasion even poling with 3 targets is worth it, even if it is just to save shots. And poling is just too relaxing compared to other forms of xp. Pull > next target + hit > sit back and relax.
I doubt it's even worth it for non-polers any more. In the time it takes to gather mobs without DN aggro I could well have killed 3 mobs already. Also the polling spots for this kind of xp are kinda' lame.
FoG is horrible for 3 mobs per swing. Upper GC is pretty bad xp for poling (it's only good for the stone drops really) and it goes blue at 84 iirc.
At CoD it will probably be better to just kill the non-heavy resist, dark mobs than pole the grey mobs on the towers. Maybe if you do it as a party with multiple polers (lol) you won't feel the xp drop as much.
With Dragon Valley coming, polling 3 mobs for lol drops and not much more xp than single target just seems like a waste of time.
ever poled in Tullies/Cita2 or top MoS/SoA ? right now lots of classes do it althou those with actual pole masteries should excel at it I only see a handful do so ?
if anything the nerf made me sell my pole as am a lolsws and only hitting 3 targets won't be good enough for that kind of thing, I enjoyed the easy xp it gave but am not qqing that it goes back to how it should have been from start :)
will be very interesting to see if any class will be able to AOE in DVC thou cause from all looks that will be very very hard ^^"
ps, fastest easy AOE XP past 82 is atm at Green/CoD/Stakato/Tullies, takes only 1 good poler (any class can do it if they have the right gear) but once H5 is out this will change to real pole class only
Well yeah the high-end polling is good xp but the set-up you need for that is too involved for a non-poler to be any kind of casual xp.
Also unless you can box most of the toons oop it's just not worth it. A real poler in Tullies is friggin' awesome ofc. It's pretty sad that it makes MoS look like a joke and no vesper drops there. Also last time I went there I could have sworn they still hadn't fixed the problem from old-MoS of not being able to pull a whole room to one side without mobs returning >_<.
Stakato is kinda' meh xp compared to other spots as the mobs are too strong and have way too much resistance. Even pre-High 5, they go down too slow for the xp they give to be worth it imo (especially when you kill the wrong mobs and others disappear >_<). Admittedly I haven't poled there after Freya made the game 'easier' lol.
After High 5 it's just not worth it anymore imo. The high-end spots will probably be even worse for non-polers considering all the support you need. The idea of getting less xp than a dorf while in poler spots is just sad. Especially as a 'real' DD. :P
LoA is gonna' be crazy for sure. I doubt many people will be successfully poling there for a long time. The damage from the mobs in there is insane. I know people said the same about SoA and now it's poled but the LoA mobs look like a special kinda' hurt. :D
Also with the random spawning of that patrolling mob that's like a mini raid boss, polling there might be a problem... We'll see I guess :)
Dragon Valley is where it's gonna' be at for sure. PvP-ing for spots in that place again should bring back some memories.
I doubt it's even worth it for non-polers any more. In the time it takes to gather mobs without DN aggro I could well have killed 3 mobs already. Also the polling spots for this kind of xp are kinda' lame.
Don't those 3 make 7 (or 8) with any SA on the pole?
FoG is horrible for 3 mobs per swing. Upper GC is pretty bad xp for poling (it's only good for the stone drops really) and it goes blue at 84 iirc.
Light blue at 82.
Hmm, maybe you're right but I personally don't remember ever hitting more than 5 mobs even with a crit stun (Icarus) or Haste (Vesper + AoE para) with zero masteries.
Upper GC certainly goes blue at at 84. I distinctly remember ganking in there at 83 pre-Freya and the crying one of my old Doombringer clannies made us endure about the mobs turning blue when he hit 84. Maybe you're thinking of older spots like old MoS, catacombs etc.
ps, fastest easy AOE XP past 82 is atm at Green/CoD/Stakato/Tullies, takes only 1 good poler (any class can do it if they have the right gear) but once H5 is out this will change to real pole class only
I'd like to see that "any class" doing pole in tully ;P for other spots you pointed out I agree but not tully ;p
as it is right now an archer or a dagger kill faster with a pole than a Dwarf or a Warlord for me the nerf on the classes with no pole mastery is very welcome, what I am not agree with is that they reduce the targets the real polers can hit at the time, if at least the VR bonus was higher that will be ok, but as always we just need to adapt
Well, it is not the vr thing, a wl deals enough dmg to heal itself, it is that speed of killing is reduced a bit. Polers should not have nerf on pole, DN cant do much else, for instance, even tho the nerf is small, should apply only to non-polers imo.
As for the ppl saying enchants make up for it, hey, enchanting was available before and was working ON TOP of old pole target numbers, this nerf will affect enchanted skills too (heck, who doesnt have that enchant anyway...), so, enchanted or not enchanted skills, polers will still get the nerf. It isnt much, compared to vr nerf long ago, that makes it even more unnenecesary.
Really, if it was needed, then it wont make much of a difference anyway, it is just the idea of nerfing polers on pole that I dont agree with.
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as it is right now an archer or a dagger kill faster with a pole than a Dwarf or a Warlord for me the nerf on the classes with no pole mastery is very welcome, what I am not agree with is that they reduce the targets the real polers can hit at the time, if at least the VR bonus was higher that will be ok, but as always we just need to adapt
What game are you playing?
If a archer or a dagger kills faster than a warlord or a dwarf then it is because the dwarf/warlord have worse gear. Equivalent gear and buffs will show you that warlords are still far better than a dagger/archer. I'm not so sure about dwarfs but I know 2 dwarfs that are pretty strong in exp, in fact they kill mobs faster than any dagger or archer ever could.
That's BS. No Dorf could ever pole better than me. Passive crit rate + damage and Furious Soul > than dorf pole masteries. It makes for insane poling strength. The only thing good about dorfs is the fact that they have massive hp and that heavy armour is pound for pound better DPS than Light.
The DN for sure is a much stronger poler, even if it has less crit rate. Same of course goes for the Titan. Dorf, hell no.
Anyway poling xp is over-powered even with the nerfs. It makes all other types of xp look terrible by comparison. -2 targets is nothing for a real poler. If you're actually worried about that, you're a bad poler. Simple as that.
What game are you playing?
If a archer or a dagger kills faster than a warlord or a dwarf then it is because the dwarf/warlord have worse gear. Equivalent gear and buffs will show you that warlords are still far better than a dagger/archer. I'm not so sure about dwarfs but I know 2 dwarfs that are pretty strong in exp, in fact they kill mobs faster than any dagger or archer ever could.
That's BS. No Dorf could ever pole better than me. Passive crit rate + damage and Furious Soul > than dorf pole masteries. It makes for insane poling strength. The only thing good about dorfs is the fact that they have massive hp and that heavy armour is pound for pound better DPS than Light.
The DN for sure is a much stronger poler, even if it has less crit rate. Same of course goes for the Titan. Dorf, hell no.
Anyway poling xp is over-powered even with the nerfs. It makes all other types of xp look terrible by comparison. -2 targets is nothing for a real poler. If you're actually worried about that, you're a bad poler. Simple as that.
Reading comprehension? What I stated is absolutly no ********.
Only reason you can pole green is because you can tank it, not because you do good damage. If you had Light armour and no crit damaged reduction + skill enchant, you'd get ***** hard and you know it :)
To be honest a TH is probably just as good if vicious stance works and also much better than a dorf. It just doesn't the 45% crit rate increase. So yeah, in your face!
Only reason you can pole green is because you can tank it, not because you do good damage. If you had Light armour and no crit damaged reduction + skill enchant, you'd get ***** hard and you know it :)
To be honest a TH is probably just as good if vicious stance works and also much better than a dorf. It just doesn't the 45% crit rate increase. So yeah, in your face!
You're so wrong lol. I don't even buff Majesty to get the Counter critical trigger more often. Further I do about 5-14k crits on the mobs there with an attack speed of 1350+ permanently. I might have lower crit rate but I got a pretty high Patk.
Further my pole is a Vesper +3 190 Holy Haste. You think mobs Crit that much that my passive skill changes everything? xD Seriously...
I could even pole there in IC set.
Have you seen Xadhoom Pole green? He kills almost as fast as me and I kill slightly slower than Hyperlite. (Xad/Hyper have 300 poles, I don't). So just bequiet if you don't know the facts.
i bet he pole green with insane heals now :) and it take 15 min to kill train ^^ and 300 holy CS icarus?
CS sa is overpowered for non polers :/
Who? Me? With heals? rofl... I never needed any heal to pole there... You guys got absolutly no clue about game mechanics lol.
u got no clue...u get wrong my sarcasm - u didnt see it ? u are tank - stron pdef... low damage....that was before - l2 game mechanics is terrible now... why u can do things same as poler ??? U ARE TANK! ( I have SK friend that lvl 80+ by pole...) IT IS TOTALLY WRONG... also u use CC and all aviable buffs so your "crits" not look insane when we divide it... how u can kill "slighty" slower than top 85 dread ??? he can hit triple targets that u so that gives him triple your DPS (and his p atak is bigger)...
Can i use shield same as tank ? Is not like u are great - just game mechanic is bad... really bad - especially with full buffs... chronicle ago tanks/daggers/etc. AOE in fog but they needs dances, cov etc. - as dread i did it selfbuffed with only haste pot so i know what i am talking... ppl like u use perfect buffs and bad l2 mechanic and calling it "pro aoe char"... it is not big deal and as Evoria said near all classes can do it same as u (also before resist nerf 300 dark set and Greenspot was piece of cake)
thx god NC soon fix it :) but they still male mechanics bad.. rushing titans etc. sick ideas
PS. U are in top clan or untagged ? cant imagine free greenspot ready for your aoe service :>
as it is right now an archer or a dagger kill faster with a pole than a Dwarf or a Warlord for me the nerf on the classes with no pole mastery is very welcome, what I am not agree with is that they reduce the targets the real polers can hit at the time, if at least the VR bonus was higher that will be ok, but as always we just need to adapt
lol?
you are either delusional or have never seen a warlord xp those spots.
my DN can pull the entire green spot within 50 seconds and then the entire green spot dies within 25 seconds or so. i typically have 20-30 seconds left on songs and dances at the end of each full green spot train.
please show me proof of a dagger or archer doing this as fast or faster, because 500 extra attack speed and 20 less mobs being hit wont euqate to that, sorry.
TH can do tullys aoe pulling.
and glads.
pulling a 2 room train and killing it within 2-3 dance/song rounds and killing an entire tullies floor in 1 dance/song round is completely different. i dont know if you post because you think its funny to act like you are completely clueless about this game, or if you truely are clueless, but your posts here and in your "gm's disconnect me during sieges" thread aren't making you look too smart...
PS. U are in top clan or untagged ? cant imagine free greenspot ready for your aoe service :>
its basically me of kilandi at green spot, everyone else knows its typically taken by one of us
u got no clue...u get wrong my sarcasm - u didnt see it ? u are tank - stron pdef... low damage....that was before - l2 game mechanics is terrible now... why u can do things same as poler ??? U ARE TANK! ( I have SK friend that lvl 80+ by pole...) IT IS TOTALLY WRONG... also u use CC and all aviable buffs so your "crits" not look insane when we divide it... how u can kill "slighty" slower than top 85 dread ??? he can hit triple targets that u so that gives him triple your DPS (and his p atak is bigger)...
Wow you're absolutly clueless.
First of all the statement about my criticals is meant of every crit: With and without CC trigger. In fact my crits are always above 5k. And if you divide 14k by 2 you will see that it is still 7k.
Secondly, since you act like you know alot you should have already noticed that geodata bugs make it almost impossible to hit every single mob of a train. Hyper should be able to confirm this.
Third ask Hyper how fast I am.
Can i use shield same as tank ? Is not like u are great - just game mechanic is bad... really bad - especially with full buffs... chronicle ago tanks/daggers/etc. AOE in fog but they needs dances, cov etc. - as dread i did it selfbuffed with only haste pot so i know what i am talking... ppl like u use perfect buffs and bad l2 mechanic and calling it "pro aoe char"... it is not big deal and as Evoria said near all classes can do it same as u (also before resist nerf 300 dark set and Greenspot was piece of cake)
thx god NC soon fix it :) but they still male mechanics bad.. rushing titans etc. sick ideas
PS. U are in top clan or untagged ? cant imagine free greenspot ready for your aoe service :>
You're delusional. Seriously stop actilng like you know stuff. Do you know how to original L2 creators wanted to make the game? Do you know it? I don't and you neither. So be quiet if you got no clue. Just for once.
Further yes I am in one of the top clans and I've been hero serveral times. And depending on the enemies comming to green I can easily solo some of the groups there.
Also, I never said I'm something special but with the currently available items on the server not almost every class can pole green. Maybe with a healer but they will need way to long to kill the mobs.
7k on robe mob is not high with buffs that u use.. geodata is not bugged so high and Hyper is from you clan right ? - still "slighty" is unbelievable especially that he said he kill train in 25 sec and your pole is not 300.... so u can kill all greenspot in 30 sec hitting 6 mobs? i dont think so - fraps is welcome here (wut u call high patak with pole ??)
+STR from wards? +6 MW set ? hero zerk ?
Yes... i know that l2 creators dont wanna see exping tanks same as polers and use sword/shield for pvp only... but u know what creators wanna do right ? and why they make separate tank clasess and poler classes right ?
again: "Maybe with a healer but they will need way to long to kill the mobs. " u are tank same as other tanks and u use pole same as other classes without masteries... so why SK with SOS needs healer ? or 85 daggers with good evasion ? (green is bad for pulling not for killing)
and u can pole often there and ppl at Naia use often ranger your server must be dead...
I can easily solo some of the groups there. Is your party 100% boxed???
7k on robe mob is not high with buffs that u use.. geodata is not bugged so high and Hyper is from you clan right ? - still "slighty" is unbelievable especially that he said he kill train in 25 sec and your pole is not 300.... so u can kill all greenspot in 30 sec hitting 6 mobs? i dont think so - fraps is welcome here (wut u call high patak with pole ??)
+STR from wards? +6 MW set ? hero zerk ?
Wow... On green there are light, robe and heavy mobs. I crit minimum 5k on all mobs so just be quiet. I can kill a train in a 30-35 seconds also if the mobs stand good etc. And It doesn't really matter anyway if I kill them in 30 40 50 or 60 seconds as long as I do it in 1 dance/song round, which I do.
Further my Armor has 3 parts +6 other +3, non master work. Further yes I got STR from wards but I could easily do green before also. So the Wards probably even out the difference between 190 and 300.
And I got about 3.2k patk. Which is pretty nice.
Yes... i know that l2 creators dont wanna see exping tanks same as polers and use sword/shield for pvp only... but u know what creators wanna do right ? and why they make separate tank clasess and poler classes right ?
If you don't read/understand my posts why do you even try argueing with me you ********?
If you are so angry about me and others being able to pole, go cry to NCsoft and stop being a selfish, arogant fool here.
again: "Maybe with a healer but they will need way to long to kill the mobs. " u are tank same as other tanks and u use pole same as other classes without masteries... so why SK with SOS needs healer ? or 85 daggers with good evasion ? (green is bad for pulling not for killing)
and u can pole often there and ppl at Naia use often ranger your server must be dead...
As I said I am not the only one who can pole green without pole mastery. I just said that not everyone can do it. So again READ WHAT I POST BEFORE YOU TRY TO REPLY!
Is your party 100% boxed???
Yes. 4 supports + me. I run them on PC + Laptop. (SE/BD/SWS/PP) No need more.
Now do me a favor, read and especially UNDERSTAND what I say before you try to ******** again.
dont take it personally - i dont knwo u and dont play at naia... just i dont like pseudo polers idea and i enjoy nerf... enjoy your polling till u can - ppl like u killed this game at NA - 4 untagged boxes instead live support-players. EOT from me. u are strong class in pvp and at naia history but for u it is not enough.
Oh and btw. POWIND not COV... why u need it if u are so pro ? :) 6 mobs dont make VR enough ?... U use powind and u said things about "healing" fo other ppl - who need heals with powind ???? maybe lord of vampire too + bless the blood? "3,2k" patak with probably bers dance and wards and tank buff is real HIGH?... also 190 (230 with dance + HW) holy vs 300 (340) holy is 70% vs 100% it is not small difference
also 190 (230 with dance + HW) holy vs 300 (340) holy is 70% vs 100% it is not small difference
To be precise, it's 40% vs 70% if the mob's base holy resist is 40 or below, and 20% vs 40% if the mob's base resist is above 80 (but not higher than 180...which wouldn't be going to happen in HB anyway).
If the mob's base resist is 41 to 80, both 230 and 340 give the same 40% damage increase.
For the green spot, I'm sure the mobs' holy resist is below 80 (but not sure if it's below 41; my semi-educated guess is 50).
dont take it personally - i dont knwo u and dont play at naia... just i dont like pseudo polers idea and i enjoy nerf... enjoy your polling till u can - ppl like u killed this game at NA - 4 untagged boxes instead live support-players. EOT from me - see ya here in H5 crying about "cant do green NC (%(^%(%)&^". U are arogant pretend to be poler - not me. Peace bro... u are strong class in pvp and at naia history but for u it is not enough.
Lol Looking down to my powerlevel results, you're just jealous because your WL is too gimp equiped to be better than my PK as poler I guess =)
Oh and btw. POWIND not COV... why u need it if u are so pro ? :) 6 mobs dont make VR enough ?... U use powind and u said things about "healing" fo other ppl - who need heals with powind ???? maybe lord of vampire too + bless the blood? "3,2k" patak with probably bers dance and wards and tank buff is real HIGH?... also 190 (230 with dance + HW) holy vs 300 (340) holy is 70% vs 100% it is not small difference
You can ask any single customer of me and he will tell you that I use PoFire. Therefore WRONG. AGAIN!
Further no I don't use holy dance and the patk is w/o the Bers dance.
You're so bad....
Sigh... The point was you 'tank' the mobs because you don't have around 2k P def when you pole. It's easily double that or more under AI. The attack speed you have is impressive for sure but that's not what stops you getting face-stomped poling those mobs.
I'll repeat it for you. If you had to use Light Armour, you'd get *****.
Oh and the crit damage reduction isn't to do with the normal attacks, it's mostly about the stab skill the arcane scouts can do (I think that's the mob. Green spot was so 2 years ago). It does a LOT of damage on none heavy armour. Any LA class taking 4 or more of those in succession is gonna' be under 20% hp almost every pull.
We tried it in the old days and it just hurts LA classes too much. Where as even the 83/84 polers back then could pull the whole area and laugh at the mobs with 150 poles. This was also before CC. DN's are just sick when it comes to polling, it's not even funny...
I'm not saying it's not impressive being able to pole green, especially for a tank (if you can actually pull the whole area like a real poler). Just don't let yourself believe it's because of your 'awesome' damage lol.
never heard about reducing damage... but i APPROVE IT same as target nerf! poling daggers, archers, kamaels, tanks, Ols, bd,sws - it was bad bad...
WHY shouldn't a class with an all weapon mastery - no specific weapon mastery - get to use a pole well? Especially a **** dominator who people don't want in most parties outside sieges and who might have a harder time solo levelling without being able to aoe. Complain about daggers for sure - I guess they can do it all but not a class like domi imo.
Sigh... The point was you 'tank' the mobs because you don't have around 2k P def when you pole. It's easily double that or more under AI. The attack speed you have is impressive for sure but that's not what stops you getting face-stomped poling those mobs.
I'll repeat it for you. If you had to use Light Armour, you'd get *****.
Oh and the crit damage reduction isn't to do with the normal attacks, it's mostly about the stab skill the arcane scouts can do (I think that's the mob. Green spot was so 2 years ago). It does a LOT of damage on none heavy armour. Any LA class taking 4 or more of those in succession is gonna' be under 20% hp almost every pull.
We tried it in the old days and it just hurts LA classes too much. Where as even the 83/84 polers back then could pull the whole area and laugh at the mobs with 150 poles. This was also before CC. DN's are just sick when it comes to polling, it's not even funny...
I'm not saying it's not impressive being able to pole green, especially for a tank (if you can actually pull the whole area like a real poler). Just don't let yourself believe it's because of your 'awesome' damage lol.
First of all I pole all spot, all mobs. Second I never said I'm only surviving this because of my awesome damage. I just said that he's completly wrong about that I "don't do any damage" or " that I need 20 minutes for killing the mobs" and all his blah blah and q.q about him being a pole and me not... Just annoying and childish by him.
if i am right 300 pole hits now near same as 150 pole "before"... also full dark sets works "before" great at green & tully...