i know dw took a significant hit with basically all the pvpers moving on to somewhere else...
resulting in almost every war getting dropped..... and several getting pked due to past aggressions or confusion or whatever..... at least i have been dropped quite a bit by lvl 80+ moirai wearing toons while i've been on my 75 and under subs...
Beyond that... i don't follow politics.... i find them based on halarity
Considering the leadership was passed to Camila recently how is it that the leader could be banned?
We all know that it is impossible for 2 events to occur within the same year and not exactly at the same time. We have event x and event y. In NO way in this universe could event x happen and then event y happen! You sir win the interwebs.
We all know that it is impossible for 2 events to occur within the same year and not exactly at the same time. We have event x and event y. In NO way in this universe could event x happen and then event y happen! You sir win the interwebs.
We all know that it is impossible for 2 events to occur within the same year and not exactly at the same time. We have event x and event y. In NO way in this universe could event x happen and then event y happen! You sir win the interwebs.
impossible means probability 0. And probability 0 don't exist.
Stop to watch Jurrasic Park and go buy a probability math book (i recommend u I. Asimov's or B.Pascal's science books)
@Smittie, the answer question is somewhere in monument of heroes and word info
impossible means probability 0. And probability 0 don't exist.
Stop to watch Jurrasic Park and go buy a probability math book (i recommend u I. Asimov's or B.Pascal's science books)
@Smittie, the answer question is somewhere in monument of heroes and word info
If it's in the monument, how come u cant just tell me?
Main clan is IN (was formerly Legion on Phoenix) - rename caused us to have a futzed up time upon mergers.
Immortalnight is the clan we created on Sayha.
yesterday sieges 30.01.2011 The coalition formed between DS ally(FS+***) and Akin Ally(Rdogs+Bregan+RR) is dominating server when we talk about mass events like sieges.That coalition that holds 3 castles (Aden,Rune,Goddard) is destributing the other castles on Chronos.
The week before the coalition helped ambereye to take Shutgart from IN and Nova.
And last siege The coalition helped Balance ally(Enmity+Immos) to save Giran from Nova and IN.The 2 sided wars between FS and balance ally are still not dropped and hope that will stay and in future.Just the coalition helped balance cause nova are most hated and just cause the russian coalition is N1 power atm!
cause nova are most hated and just cause the russian coalition is N1 power atm!
i remember your post some days ago where u told the public where nova comes from...
can u explain plz what the difference between them and your russian coalition is? we all know about the FS history, and i guess at least the kain/aria ppl know about bregan/rdogs...so what u wanted to prove in your earlier post? that nova did/does the same as your friends did/do?
i remember your post some days ago where u told the public where nova comes from...
can u explain plz what the difference between them and your russian coalition is? we all know about the FS history, and i guess at least the kain/aria ppl know about bregan/rdogs...so what u wanted to prove in your earlier post? that nova did/does the same as your friends did/do?
The difference between Nova ad FS is that Nova recruit top players from enemy clans and then cry for no pvp.And once again (even nova said it on their forums) there are more exFS in nova now than original nova.Small example-Hitcha Cupra Cabuloso all exBH/FS members(half nuker N1 ?),whole Cetko's party ?
FS not qq we just lvl subs,gear more and destroy nova on sieges.
The difference between Nova ad FS is that Nova recruit top players from enemy clans and then cry for no pvp.And once again (even nova said it on their forums) there are more exFS in nova now than original nova.Small example-Hitcha Cupra Cabuloso all exBH/FS members(half nuker N1 ?),whole Cetko's party ?
FS not qq we just lvl subs,gear more and destroy nova on sieges.
BH does not exist any more so why speak about it like its some noble clan thats still strong. Also, wernt BH and FS at war with eachother at one point?
Kinda makes you wonder how FS treats their members, if its so easy to recruit them....
Hitcha was the first member of the clan (BH clan wh got valakas) that shows how he was treated.Just when it comes to hard times for a clan some ppl prefer to jump off the ship and join the strong side and "be cool"!
BH does not exist any more so why speak about it like its some noble clan thats still strong. Also, wernt BH and FS at war with eachother at one point?
cause it was the game mechanichs that made the clan to merge into the FS and there are lots of ppl from BH still playing in FS or other clans now.
About the wars yes we were at war almost 3 years,but there is history even before that period...
Hitcha was the first member of the clan (BH clan wh got valakas) that shows how he was treated.Just when it comes to hard times for a clan some ppl prefer to jump off the ship and join the strong side and "be cool"!
You sound bitter, very bitter.
Bottom line, he was a top lvl player, one of the few FS that was actually pvping and putting up a fight in pvp vids. And you guys neglected him.
Bottom line, he was a top lvl player, one of the few FS that was actually pvping and putting up a fight in pvp vids. And you guys neglected him.
Too late to call names now.
Exactly he was one of the few that could give a good fight to nova at that time and they recruited him +some others.Their actions are strange I mean nothing wrong someone to change clans and even go to the other side.I am also fine with the fact nova need recruits like every normal clan.What amuses me is the fact that they recruit top players BUT FROM enemy clans and then qq about no pvp.Now when they hold hands with IN and got crushed in last sieges again qq about our numbers.
And I gave a name as an example that was not neglected.
Exactly he was one of the few that could give a good fight to nova at that time and they recruited him +some others.Their actions are strange I mean nothing wrong someone to change clans and even go to the other side.I am also fine with the fact nova need recruits like every normal clan.What amuses me is the fact that they recruit top players BUT FROM enemy clans and then qq about no pvp Now when they hold hands with IN and got crushed in last sieges again qq about our numbers.
And I gave a name as an example that was not neglected.
Drac and Smittie missed point, bolded now.
Crying about competition and pvp, but same time recruiting best pvpers and oly enforcers from enemy clans..
cause it was the game mechanichs that made the clan to merge into the FS and there are lots of ppl from BH still playing in FS or other clans now.
About the wars yes we were at war almost 3 years,but there is history even before that period...
Why did you ally your wartags? seems you mass recruited wartags also. Stop cry, Stop being a hypocrite and just play the game.
Let me play Capt. Obvious and dumb it down for them:
it is one thing when clans war each other, then drop the war when it gets old, then, after a while, become allies;
it is a completely different thing when a clan is recruiting people straight from enemy clans, or merging with enemy clans, like Nova did with CC.
Blacklord is trying to point fingers at Nova for doing something that his own clan has also done, while trying to hold the moral high ground.
Me pointing it out while having an enormous post count makes it no less true, but please try your clumsy attempts at propaganda some more Aconyte - 1 man clan...
Two enemies merging to respresent/fight other servers for a merge is different from absorbing top enemies from all clans due to an actual distaste of competition.
Blacklord is trying to point fingers at Nova for doing something that his own clan has also done, while trying to hold the moral high ground.
Ok let me give you a couple of examples from Gustin/Phoenix history, to refresh your memory.
1. CD (Camelot & Co.) used to be friends with Nightmare (Nocturnus & Co.), then, when they felt Gustin wasn't big enough for the both of them, they warred each other. After the server merge, they realized they still had enough things in common, so, they put differences aside, and allied each other to fight a common enemy (FS, at that point).
Would I blame Camelot for allying with Nocturnus shortly after the war?
Not at all.
I did, however, blame CD for recruiting a few bishops from HG and WLP while being at war with them.
You see, we had only three or four bishops in our entire ally, and as soon as they hit 76 and completed the 3rd class quest, they got stolen by the big, nasty CD zerg.
Excuse me for a battology, but recruting the key supports to weaken an already weaker opponent is just... weak. :(
2. As far as I know, FS used to be at war with BH in the days of yore on Hindemith, but after the server merge they found out they've had enough things in common to drop the war and oppose the new threats (CD/NM, at that point) together.
I won't blame them for that either.
Months later, Nova arrived to Phoenix, warred pretty much everyone, then began to extract members straight from the enemy ranks.
If you still can't see the difference, I rest my case.
Are you jealous that Nova has a recruitment policy where YOU cant get in?
Whoa Smittie, are you serious? Are you for real?
Just don't start with this "Nova has a blahblahblah recruiment policy" joke again, because, I'm afraid, quite a few people are going to burst with laughter while reading your sermon :D
According to my long time observations, it appears that the so-called "high recruiting standards", in Nova's case, are quite simple... you get accepted if you match one of the following criteria:
- You are holding a hero slot that Nova fails to take, or you're capable of taking it if geared up and fed properly, or playing an exotic class in which the hero spot is totally uncontested.
- You are a worthless (soon-to-be-banned) automated entity who claims to be a uber pvper (preferably, transfered from some other server, for extra l33tness).
- You are a high level support class (preferably from a PvE-only clan, which would give you the right to trashtalk the rest of the server for being "carebears", as soon as you're in Nova).
- You are a random player from a non-factor random clan, yet on some random occasions, you get accepted. Somehow, I guess. Randomly, I guess. :D
- And, finally, being in a clan that's at war with Nova automatically makes you Nova's recruiting material. You just can't help it! ;)
I did, however, blame CD for recruiting a few bishops from HG and WLP while being at war with them.
You see, we had only three or four bishops in our entire ally, and as soon as they hit 76 and completed the 3rd class quest, they got stolen by the big, nasty CD zerg.
Excuse me for a battology, but recruting the key supports to weaken an already weaker opponent is just... weak. :(
Yes its weak, but you cant recruit people that are basically content where they are, u cant blame the clan taking them :-S
Yes, pixie, just think of it: you could have been a hero by now! ;) ...should you have followed a couple of your ex-clannies who first went to HG, then merged into CC, then got absorbed by Nova... and quickly climbed up the Hero monument.
According to Smittie, that's the career everyone should be jealous of! :D
well the simpliest truth is that FS would "recruit" "TOP PvPer" (c) from enemy any single day if they could, but the sad things is that no TOP PvPer would every apply to FS in the first place ...
so when FS are trying to dominate server with this allmighty "coalition" its absolutly OK, but if Nova is trying to even the numbers its all bad ... cool story guys
Yes, pixie, just think of it: you could have been a hero by now! ;) ...should you have followed a couple of your ex-clannies who first went to HG, then merged into CC, then got absorbed by Nova... and quickly climbed up the Hero monument.
According to Smittie, that's the career everyone should be jealous of! :D
If you could please refrain from putting words in my mouth.
Ok let me give you a couple of examples from Gustin/Phoenix history, to refresh your memory.
1. CD (Camelot & Co.) used to be friends with Nightmare (Nocturnus & Co.), then, when they felt Gustin wasn't big enough for the both of them, they warred each other. After the server merge, they realized they still had enough things in common, so, they put differences aside, and allied each other to fight a common enemy (FS, at that point).
Would I blame Camelot for allying with Nocturnus shortly after the war?
Not at all.
I did, however, blame CD for recruiting a few bishops from HG and WLP while being at war with them.
You see, we had only three or four bishops in our entire ally, and as soon as they hit 76 and completed the 3rd class quest, they got stolen by the big, nasty CD zerg.
Excuse me for a battology, but recruting the key supports to weaken an already weaker opponent is just... weak. :(
2. As far as I know, FS used to be at war with BH in the days of yore on Hindemith, but after the server merge they found out they've had enough things in common to drop the war and oppose the new threats (CD/NM, at that point) together.
I won't blame them for that either.
Months later, Nova arrived to Phoenix, warred pretty much everyone, then began to extract members straight from the enemy ranks.
If you still can't see the difference, I rest my case.
Whoa Smittie, are you serious? Are you for real?
Just don't start with this "Nova has a blahblahblah recruiment policy" joke again, because, I'm afraid, quite a few people are going to burst with laughter while reading your sermon :D
According to my long time observations, it appears that the so-called "high recruiting standards", in Nova's case, are quite simple... you get accepted if you match one of the following criteria:
- You are holding a hero slot that Nova fails to take, or you're capable of taking it if geared up and fed properly, or playing an exotic class in which the hero spot is totally uncontested.
- You are a worthless (soon-to-be-banned) automated entity who claims to be a uber pvper (preferably, transfered from some other server, for extra l33tness).
- You are a high level support class (preferably from a PvE-only clan, which would give you the right to trashtalk the rest of the server for being "carebears", as soon as you're in Nova).
- You are a random player from a non-factor random clan, yet on some random occasions, you get accepted. Somehow, I guess. Randomly, I guess. :D
- And, finally, being in a clan that's at war with Nova automatically makes you Nova's recruiting material. You just can't help it! ;)
So your clan failed to keep your bishops happy, or maybe the DD's just sucked and they didnt wanna heal noobs anymore... bottom line, one bitter Aconyte. As for your clan becoming weaker because some of your bishops got recruited, I dont see a bishop sub in your sig, did you ever sub support?
As for my "sermon". Nova don't take just anyone, and the criteria you mentioned are made up. Lets face it you, you are siding with the russian zerg, and will keep doing so, regardless of what I say. Maybe you are bitter coz you cant join Nova also.
Before someone mistakenly says I am, I would like to make it clear that I am in no way affilliated with Nova, nor am I in Nova.
I just speak my mind, and I love to point out hipocrasy.
Ok let me give you a couple of examples from Gustin/Phoenix history, to refresh your memory.
1. CD (Camelot & Co.) used to be friends with Nightmare (Nocturnus & Co.), then, when they felt Gustin wasn't big enough for the both of them, they warred each other. After the server merge, they realized they still had enough things in common, so, they put differences aside, and allied each other to fight a common enemy (FS, at that point).
Would I blame Camelot for allying with Nocturnus shortly after the war?
Not at all.
I did, however, blame CD for recruiting a few bishops from HG and WLP while being at war with them.
You see, we had only three or four bishops in our entire ally, and as soon as they hit 76 and completed the 3rd class quest, they got stolen by the big, nasty CD zerg.
Excuse me for a battology, but recruting the key supports to weaken an already weaker opponent is just... weak. :(
2. As far as I know, FS used to be at war with BH in the days of yore on Hindemith, but after the server merge they found out they've had enough things in common to drop the war and oppose the new threats (CD/NM, at that point) together.
I won't blame them for that either.
Months later, Nova arrived to Phoenix, warred pretty much everyone, then began to extract members straight from the enemy ranks.
If you still can't see the difference, I rest my case.
;)
Exactly thank you that you explained it instead of me.If there are still people who do not see the difference after your post then they are either stuped or blinded nova members who live in their own perfect world.
I still remember nova words in hero chat and on blah first days after they recruited divine(IN)+cc they sais "we do it for the competition"?!?!?!?!?!?
I still remember nova words in hero chat and on blah first days after they recruited divine(IN)+cc they sais "we do it for the competition"?!?!?!?!?!?
Well they did and did even more, something FS would never do, kicked IN when they realised they recruited too much ... actually they recruited enough, but when zerg.ru started to loose their numbers got half over a week (srsly it was mass exodus to suddenly brb IRL / other game / l2.ru).
Not to mention that Nova didnt recruit IN, IN asked FS if they wanna cooperate against Nova, FS said to *** off coz we are FS and we kill all and dont need anyone. So IN could stay small and alone, CD wasnt the option so they asked Nova to give it a try.
So yes Nova did this for competition to even the numbers and cover euro primetime so they could fight 100vs200 and not 60vs300.
Btw. you are so happy about your "coalition" of how much clans and people (smashing 80 Nova)? Just to get the numbers straight about this recruiting to dominate you blame Nova so much.
PS: who the hell are HonorGuardians and who from them is in Nova?
If you could please refrain from putting words in my mouth.
In case you didn't notice, I was making fun of YOUR habit of putting your words in other people's mouths and speculating about their feelings.
Just look:
Are you jealous that Nova has a recruitment policy where YOU cant get in?
You sound bitter, very bitter.
Only a russian would see it that way...
Maybe you are bitter coz you cant join Nova also.
Oh yeah sooo bitter! :D You forgot to ask if I ever wanted to. Now, just try and think of it for a minute:
should I have followed the clan mergers' route described above (HG --> CC --> Nova), what do you think my hero count would have been currently? Higher than Lecter's or lower? ;)
I dont see a bishop sub in your sig, did you ever sub support?
Nope.
I prefer to play classes focused on soloing.
Oh wait, does Judicator count as a support? :rolleyes:
Well they did and did even more, something FS would never do, kicked IN when they realised they recruited too much ... (ty for prooving my point that nova pretend they transfered to Phoenix for more pvp and whe they saw thy are loosing they started to mass recruit enemies-2 enemie clans)
Not to mention that Nova didnt recruit IN, IN asked FS if they wanna cooperate against Nova, FS said to *** off coz we are FS and we kill all and dont need anyone. So IN could stay small and alone, CD wasnt the option so they asked Nova to give it a try.
here you answer why IN joined Nova and not why nova recruited in
So yes Nova did this for competition to even the numbers and cover euro primetime so they could fight 100vs200 and not 60vs300.
Seems math is not your strong side. We have 1 time 100 vs 200 and 60 vs 300.First you say that before your recruits nova were 60 ppl(btw according to nova they transfered like 80 ppl what happened with 20 of them for 3 months I know just want you to say it) and figheted vs 300 then you say after you recruited cc clan in clan and pp from FS you fighted vs 200 fs-which means numbers of fs and co reduce with 100 but at same time your numbers increase just with 40?!?!? Stop the fail propaganda that works only in China.Just stop playing with the numbers.
Btw. you are so happy about your "coalition" of how much clans and people (smashing 80 Nova)? Just to get the numbers straight about this recruiting to dominate you blame Nova so much.
I am happy only cause the ee from my const party is the february hero and I blame nova just for 1 thing-they are hypocrites who mass recruit enemies and qq for no pvp.
No offense here I just like the truth and will speak everytime wehn someone is spreading fail info.I am acting like this since the Hindemith days .I changed nothing in my bahaviour or thinking can you say the same for you?
I'm the same since the day I started to play this game =) so yes I can say it ... well you were pretty much fail on Hindemith, so if you kept that attitude till now, I can see why you post this nonsense =)
And I wont answer this, because it was explained to you many times on blah, yet you still failed to understand it ... I dont see why repeating "the truth" (you love so much) would change anything, because people who actually played back then know how it was =)
Oh yeah sooo bitter! :D You forgot to ask if I ever wanted to. Now, just try and think of it for a minute:
should I have followed the clan mergers' route described above (HG --> CC --> Nova), what do you think my hero count would have been currently? Higher than Lecter's or lower? ;)
Probably still 0.
Nope.
I prefer to play classes focused on soloing.
Oh wait, does Judicator count as a support? :rolleyes:
So you like to solo, and you want to complain that support left your clan.
wow Aconyte, buddy HG lost its bishops because HG never did any epics. We didn't get good xp parties together except for when Takemeout was on. And that was one party.
The only epic bosses I ever fought was with camelot and CC. And the Camelot times was when we where at war with them and they still gave me a share of the drops.
So don't blame other clans for stealing our players, our leaders gave them away.
As for the mass exodus to CC by HG and WLP, that was due to TMO disappearing without notice and HG going thru leaders like water.
If you are the best in your group, and you have to fight an entire army and constantly lose because your entire group is a bunch of downies, why stay associated with the group of downies? All you're gonna do is fight against improbable odds alongside a group of people that will never get any better because ebay doesn't come with a manual. Hitcha made the right choice leaving, BlackLordBG is just sad that he has nothing to do on blah.
According to my long time observations, it appears that the so-called "high recruiting standards", in Nova's case, are quite simple... you get accepted if you match one of the following criteria:
- You are holding a hero slot that Nova fails to take, or you're capable of taking it if geared up and fed properly, or playing an exotic class in which the hero spot is totally uncontested.
- You are a worthless (soon-to-be-banned) automated entity who claims to be a uber pvper (preferably, transfered from some other server, for extra l33tness).
- You are a high level support class (preferably from a PvE-only clan, which would give you the right to trashtalk the rest of the server for being "carebears", as soon as you're in Nova).
- You are a random player from a non-factor random clan, yet on some random occasions, you get accepted. Somehow, I guess. Randomly, I guess. :D
- And, finally, being in a clan that's at war with Nova automatically makes you Nova's recruiting material. You just can't help it! ;)
Aconyte...Nova denies alot more applicants than FS does (and FS usually takes in those rejected by Nova). Are you really that loldumb? To be honest, you fit in the criteria of the last 2 bullets. You should apply!
Will you ever stop trying to take the moral high ground and accusing other clans of stuff?
Never.
"All that is needed for the forces of evil to succeed is for enough good men to remain silent."
"Those who do nothing about sin and evil help sin and evil to prevail."
And I don't "accuse" anyone, I just state dry facts and identify things as they are.
If I see a spade I call it a spade. If I see a bot I call it a bot. If I see a cheater I call him a cheater.
If I see someone who brags about his awesome feats that have been accomplished mostly due to ungodly amounts of cheating, I call him a pathetic loser. That's it. (No matter how "intolerant" and "insulting" to his self-esteem it is. After all, nobody forced him to cheat that badly.)
If you can't play the game within the set rules, just quit it, period. Try to grasp this simple concept, if you can.
And yes, I'm well aware that you, with your unscrupulous, opportunistic mentality, would probably find proper excuses for everything, be it cheating ("lots of people do it, so why can't I?"), clan jumping ("my clan sucked compared to theirs"), bandwagoning ("can't beat them, join them") or selling out ("they offered so much that I could not resist"). I don't mean you would do the same, but you'd eagerly advocate those who would.
By the way, since you like to spout about "hipocrisy" so much, where are your comments on those clanhoppers who begin to trashtalk their former clannies on the next day after joining an enemy clan?
Where are your comments on those who have gained their lvl 85 in PvE-only clans then moved to Nova and suddenly revealed in hero chat what fierrrrrrrrrrce PvPers they actually are? (so fierce and pvp-hungry that the rest of the server instantly turned into "carebears" in their eyes)
And, finally, if you take a look on those few presumably legit players who joined a certain presumably unlegit clan, don't you think it's an utter and ultimate hipocrisy to claim like they do: "I know I'm legit and I'm just playing the game to have fun and I don't care anymore if my clannies are legit or not"?
(that's their common excuse, something like that... I'm too lazy to look for exact quotes)
Aconyte...Nova denies alot more applicants than FS does
Ok? I won't deny they do deny some applications (lol like I care). Which still doesn't disprove my general observations posted above.
Anyway, back on the topic:
From a neutral bystander's point of view --
Nova currently consists of:
1) ClearlyClueless clan (formerly, the top PvE/RB-farming clan from Gustin, which absorbed, during its Gustin/Phoenix days, a few parties from other ex-Gustin clans: Enigma, HonorGuardians, TheIlluminaty etc, while HonorGuardians previously absorbed WLP, Legionary etc.)
2) a few top parties from FS ally (ex-Hindemith)
3) top players from Camelot and Nocturnus (CD/Nightmare: PvP alliances in old Gustin)
4) top party from Legion/Divine ally (ex-Hindemith)
5) assorted top players from PvE clans of Hindemith
6) a bunch of no-name bots from Bartz/Sayha who got banned so many times that tracking down their names and history is nearly impossible atm
7) a number of rejects transfered from every other server, including Teon and Franz
8) some people from Vengeance (one of latest additions to Nova)
9) it looks like Nova is fully absorbing another top clan, this time it's IN (ex-Divine ally, merged in 1 clan since their transfer to Sayha); though, if I remember it correctly, Nova wasn't too nice towards them in the past (to say the least).
As a comparison:
FS = FS+BH+GDL (previously allied clans, merged into one) + Dreams (ex-Hindemith) + a few people from Pilgrims (ex-Gustin) + some transfers from Euro servers.
1) lol
2) MAYBE 20 people, at most.
3) top players = 3? 4?
4) top party = 9
5) top players from PvE clans? names?
6) no-name bots? names?
7) lol you say this like every other end-game clan doesn't have these.
8) people from Vengeance = ......6?
9) I thought you were talking about the people in bullet #4 when you said this. Repeating yourself?
Then look at FS...the majority of a full clan that was BH, GDL, Dreams, a handful of Pilgrims, 80% of the Nova rejects, and now HouseofErrants.
Let's do the math.
MAYBE a full clan and a half for Nova that merged...versus 5 full clans, then a basket full of randoms.
So...compared to everyone else, ESPECIALLY FS, Nova isn't the zerg...re-re.
By the way, since you like to spout about "hipocrisy" so much, where are your comments on those clanhoppers who begin to trashtalk their former clannies on the next day after joining an enemy clan?
Where are your comments on those who have gained their lvl 85 in PvE-only clans then moved to Nova and suddenly revealed in hero chat what fierrrrrrrrrrce PvPers they actually are? (so fierce and pvp-hungry that the rest of the server instantly turned into "carebears" in their eyes)
And, finally, if you take a look on those few presumably legit players who joined a certain presumably unlegit clan, don't you think it's an utter and ultimate hipocrisy to claim like they do: "I know I'm legit and I'm just playing the game to have fun and I don't care anymore if my clannies are legit or not"?
(that's their common excuse, something like that... I'm too lazy to look for exact quotes)
To Aconyte:
If you are the best in your group, and you have to fight an entire army and constantly lose because your entire group is a bunch of downies, why stay associated with the group of downies? All you're gonna do is fight against improbable odds alongside a group of people that will never get any better because ebay doesn't come with a manual.
As for the 85 thing, why would you hit a high-end level and NOT PVP on a PVP game? I can totally understand why people get to that level and see the light and turn around to PVP and laugh at their ex-clannies that QQ and ex-clan leaders that boot people that flag because they don't want drama llamas and PVP.
Aaaaaaaaand here's my take on this one, because I was in that boat before. The game is a PVP game and is just that, a game. I'm legit, I could care less who you, or the rest of the players for that matter, think is legit. If someone is cheating, they're going to do it. No matter how many warnings, threats, insults, comments someone gets about being unlegit, if a human being has enough willpower and wanting to do something, they're going to do it and nothing you say can curve their decision, so why cry over spilled milk? Play the game with your friends and do what you want to do. Someone does something you don't want to do, avoid them or get over it. Hypocrisy is saying you hate cheaters and don't associate with them, but roll around in parties with them all the time. Learn Engrish.
aconyte, whilst i agree with many of ur principles doesnt it occur to u that some ppl that went the hg cc nova route didnt suddenly become bots or happy to play with bots they very likely were always that way ?
Never.
"All that is needed for the forces of evil to succeed is for enough good men to remain silent."
"Those who do nothing about sin and evil help sin and evil to prevail."
And I don't "accuse" anyone, I just state dry facts and identify things as they are.
If I see a spade I call it a spade. If I see a bot I call it a bot. If I see a cheater I call him a cheater.
If I see someone who brags about his awesome feats that have been accomplished mostly due to ungodly amounts of cheating, I call him a pathetic loser. That's it. (No matter how "intolerant" and "insulting" to his self-esteem it is. After all, nobody forced him to cheat that badly.)
If you can't play the game within the set rules, just quit it, period. Try to grasp this simple concept, if you can.
And yes, I'm well aware that you, with your unscrupulous, opportunistic mentality, would probably find proper excuses for everything, be it cheating ("lots of people do it, so why can't I?"), clan jumping ("my clan sucked compared to theirs"), bandwagoning ("can't beat them, join them") or selling out ("they offered so much that I could not resist"). I don't mean you would do the same, but you'd eagerly advocate those who would.
By the way, since you like to spout about "hipocrisy" so much, where are your comments on those clanhoppers who begin to trashtalk their former clannies on the next day after joining an enemy clan?
Where are your comments on those who have gained their lvl 85 in PvE-only clans then moved to Nova and suddenly revealed in hero chat what fierrrrrrrrrrce PvPers they actually are? (so fierce and pvp-hungry that the rest of the server instantly turned into "carebears" in their eyes)
And, finally, if you take a look on those few presumably legit players who joined a certain presumably unlegit clan, don't you think it's an utter and ultimate hipocrisy to claim like they do: "I know I'm legit and I'm just playing the game to have fun and I don't care anymore if my clannies are legit or not"?
(that's their common excuse, something like that... I'm too lazy to look for exact quotes)
I see a hypocrit, I call it by its name, and that name is Aconyte.
Our clan has lost 3 ppl to nova so far. Do I cry about that? Not really.
They have more fun being in Nova than they had in our clan, and why deny them that?
Wonder how much fun you have, always soloing and prowling for cheaters to screenshot.
Ok? I won't deny they do deny some applications (lol like I care). Which still doesn't disprove my general observations posted above.
Anyway, back on the topic:
From a neutral bystander's point of view --
Nova currently consists of:
1) ClearlyClueless clan (formerly, the top PvE/RB-farming clan from Gustin, which absorbed, during its Gustin/Phoenix days, a few parties from other ex-Gustin clans: Enigma, HonorGuardians, TheIlluminaty etc, while HonorGuardians previously absorbed WLP, Legionary etc.)
2) a few top parties from FS ally (ex-Hindemith)
3) top players from Camelot and Nocturnus (CD/Nightmare: PvP alliances in old Gustin)
4) top party from Legion/Divine ally (ex-Hindemith)
5) assorted top players from PvE clans of Hindemith
6) a bunch of no-name bots from Bartz/Sayha who got banned so many times that tracking down their names and history is nearly impossible atm
7) a number of rejects transfered from every other server, including Teon and Franz
8) some people from Vengeance (one of latest additions to Nova)
9) it looks like Nova is fully absorbing another top clan, this time it's IN (ex-Divine ally, merged in 1 clan since their transfer to Sayha); though, if I remember it correctly, Nova wasn't too nice towards them in the past (to say the least).
As a comparison:
FS = FS+BH+GDL (previously allied clans, merged into one) + Dreams (ex-Hindemith) + a few people from Pilgrims (ex-Gustin) + some transfers from Euro servers.
So, who's the zerg now?
Who's the patchwork? ;)
And the russian zerg consist of:
1. Bots from Dreams (IOP botters).
2. Bots from Saints Necropolis.
3. Bots from Catacomb of forbidden path.
4. Bots from Catacomb of Dark omens.
5. Bots from Top MoS (prior to Freya change).
6. assorted top players from PvE clans of Hindemith
7. a bunch of no-name bots from Bartz/Sayha who got banned so many times that tracking down their names and history is nearly impossible atm
8. Everyone that Nova rejected in their application.
1) lol
lol what? You just realized which clan actually got assimilated?
2) MAYBE 20 people, at most.
Fail at math as usual?
As someone said, "there are more russians in the current Nova than in the current FS".
3) top players = 3? 4?
Morter? Ebil? Ang1e? Susp3ct? Pasgiannena?
5) top players from PvE clans? names?
Jasinn, for example.
Some others were not even "top": one day I see a shout "EE 78 LFG" and some days later she's got Nova tag.
6) no-name bots? names?
They're the no-name bots, duh!
If I type something like skd, fdsfg, fks, ds, dks, will it help much?
And if you really screenshot everything, you could just take a look at your 1+ year old screenshots (those with Nova in them) and see what names are currently missing. And guess why.
9) I thought you were talking about the people in bullet #4 when you said this. Repeating yourself
Nope I meant SylvieDeBie & Co. in #4. Between #4 and #9, Divine ally managed to move from Phoenix to Sayha, just to meet with Nova again on Chronos. That was quite a plot! :)
Hypocrisy is saying you hate cheaters and don't associate with them, but roll around in parties with them all the time. Learn Engrish.
So, whom did you mean here? Jasinn? Or Pytho?
I see a hypocrit
Flipsy and Smittie... The dynamic self-echoing duo! :D
lol what? You just realized which clan actually got assimilated?
No, because that's most of what the current Nova is now...tool.
Fail at math as usual?
As someone said, "there are more russians in the current Nova than in the current FS".
As who said?
Morter? Ebil? Ang1e? Susp3ct? Pasgiannena?
Oh my bad, not 3 or 4. FIVE. Though, can't really consider Ang1e and Susp3ct 2 separate instances...considering they're related lol.
Jasinn, for example.
Some others were not even "top": one day I see a shout "EE 78 LFG" and some days later she's got Nova tag.
Screenshots please. Oh, and like FS is any better. Look on their application section where a 61 Destroyer got accepted to main clan cuz of his friends, and his mom wanted to join on, like, a B grade toon and they said okay.
They're the no-name bots, duh!
If I type something like skd, fdsfg, fks, ds, dks, will it help much?
And if you really screenshot everything, you could just take a look at your 1+ year old screenshots (those with Nova in them) and see what names are currently missing. And guess why.
I never screenshotted Nova because at the time, I was a catacomb rat. Never came above ground, was always aoeing with Scav, Hushup, and our old crew.
Nope I meant SylvieDeBie & Co. in #4. Between #4 and #9, Divine ally managed to move from Phoenix to Sayha, just to meet with Nova again on Chronos. That was quite a plot! :)
Sweet, so you meant 4 or 5 people (Speedo too :<), and now the main crew.
So, whom did you mean here? Jasinn? Or Pytho?
Did they ever say that before? Oh wait, no...they didn't. They just said they don't cheat, I have yet to see anything about association.
Flipsy and Smittie... The dynamic self-echoing duo! :D
So again...full clan and a basket of randoms, vice 5 full clans. Still waiting to be proven wrong about who the real zerg is, kid.
Oh my bad, not 3 or 4. FIVE. Though, can't really consider Ang1e and Susp3ct 2 separate instances...considering they're related lol.
FIVE just off the top of my head. I'm pretty sure there're more. Mistform, at a pinch.
Oh btw would you count Jyrki and Devine as 1 player or 2? I heard they're related too.
Pretty nice maths you got there.
They just said they don't cheat, I have yet to see anything about association.
Care to learn simple logic, maybe? And pay attention to hero voice next time when certain self-righteous persons start flaming the other side for being very naughty.
So again...full clan and a basket of randoms, vice 5 full clans.
Yep, with your very special maths, no matter how many clans they squeeze into one, it will always remain "one full clan and a basket of randoms". gf
Btw why do count Dreams as a "full clan", weren't they something like 1 party + lots of boxed supports?
Also, there are more ex-Pilgrims (2 at least) in Nova than in FS currently (1 or so).
And H.o.E. has not merged into FS, so I dunno why you added it to the clan-vs-clan comparison.
P.S. Your posts might upset the "randoms". The whole basket of them. :o
FIVE just off the top of my head. I'm pretty sure there're more. Mistform, at a pinch.
Oh btw would you count Jyrki and Devine as 1 player or 2? I heard they're related too.
Pretty nice maths you got there.
Yes, I do count them as 1 player, actually lol.
Care to learn simple logic, maybe? And pay attention to hero voice next time when certain self-righteous persons start flaming the other side for being very naughty.
Amusing that you pay attention to hero shout, remind me to pay attention the next time I'm in-game. Oh, and tell me when you see me in-game, because I'm curious to know when that happens.
Yep, with your very special maths, no matter how many clans they squeeze into one, it will always remain "one full clan and a basket of randoms". gf
Special maths? by your logic, 1 clan > 5 clans together. ty for clarifying.
Btw why do count Dreams as a "full clan", weren't they something like 1 party + lots of boxed supports?
Also, there are more ex-Pilgrims (2 at least) in Nova than in FS currently (1 or so).
And H.o.E. has not merged into FS, so I dunno why you added it to the clan-vs-clan comparison.
P.S. Your posts might upset the "randoms". The whole basket of them. :o
Dreams is NOW 1 party and boxed supports, it was a full clan back then. WOW TWO more ex-Pilgrims in Nova and ONE in FS??? HOW HORRID! H.o.E. and FS merging was a talk in the works, and knowing FS, they'd take the kids eventually, promising the world. After all, they told ppl pre-merge they own Nova, and used lolxion's Nova Massacre video as proof of it.
speaking of which, did you see the new massacre teaser trailer?
I guess we can expect the full thing somewhere around xmas of 2018.
He still needs to poorly edit out 3rd party programs while making it still visible in all Frintezza fights, crop it to oblivion and make many shiny light effects to fill the void of all the afk boxed toons he kills.