Everyone has their own opinion of horrible clans. Here's my unsolicited opinion of REALLY horrible clans:
1. Run around ganking xping subs and alts of clans 1/5 smaller and 5 levels lower because they can.
2. Then declare war on above small clan when they retaliate on similar subs and alts of the larger and higher leveled clan.
3. Then come to Official forums to QQ about said 1/5 smaller and 5 levels lower clan....whining that it's UNFAIR that lower leveled clan uses the open war large clan declared to farm free rep points. Yet said large powerful castle owning clan doesn't take down the 1-way war.
4. Then brags that their relatively huge formerly castle owning clan needs NOVA heros to help them kill level 78-80 small clan members leveling subs and alts (this one is truly amazing).
We all realize that some clans have less than 15 members right? But clans with 100 members that can take a castle need HERO help to kill 3 low leveled small clan members. WOW... just WOW.
(I forgot to throw the word COWARDS in there... as said larger clan refuses to accept wars from other large clans, only leave up 1-ways on teeny ones).
couldnt stop laughing, @ the QQ, and the dagger LOL, please explain to me how does a 81+ dagger lose 2x to a 77th sub, going 1v1. should not be sharing accounts they embarrass you toon.
couldnt stop laughing, @ the QQ, and the dagger LOL, please explain to me how does a 81+ dagger lose 2x to a 77th sub, going 1v1. should not be sharing accounts they embarrass you toon.
I can't recall a 81 1vs1 with a 77th sub... I DO recall a 2 vs 1. That is, your 77th sub dagger and bish vs my 68 SK sub... is that what you were talking about?
Or were you talking about your 77th dagger sub, 82 GK, 80+ se, vs my unbufffed 81 dagger?
But, maybe we should talk about your bsoe abilities instead, when you aren't 2 vs 1 against subs? I'll meet you 1 vs 1 anytime if you promise not to bsoe:).
This thread was a response to "Horrible Clans" which was locked. But it does seem that some members of said IS large clan are clueless about what they are clanned with. No wonder the QQing.
This was a response to the QQing over teeny clan tactics vs huge clan whining. KMA is horrible because we won't roll over to 5x our numbers, higher levels and better gear?
99% of L2 is played at this level... it's the major factor in the game, not the nonfactor.
When I'm maxed level and max geared, I'd quit the game again... because when the challenge is gone, the fun is also gone.
I'd also expect to get laughed at when I brag that I can 'win' vs David and I'm Goliath. It's only special when you're David, because honestly, no one cares what Goliath thinks.
Non-factor clans talking about non-factor politics. War back clans that matter then you can talk.
Mind if I ask you again what's the name of your toon, Mr. Factor?
Excuse my curiosity, but most of user names here in this forum are associated with certain player characters, low lvl or high level, noobs or experts, PvP or PvE, famous or not... yet you are among those few whose names don't ring any bells at all. :(
If by horrible clan u mean no pvp skills , bad players, **** clan , then its Obvious EO u are talkiing about
koto u r still on IN ? oh w8 brb olympianguards lol noobfactor
KMA was accused on these forums of being a 'horrible clan'. This after InnerSphere declared war on KMA for retaliating against our subs/alts/boxes being ganked many times by them while xping.
We are much smaller in numbers, levels and gear, so we adapt our tactics. If they don't like the tactics, they can stop feeding us rep points by taking down the war and warring clans of similar size/levels. Until they do, we farm them for points because we can.
Coming to the official forums to call us names is sad when it's their own doing. Gloating that their zerg clan got 'kodak moment' help from NOVA against a solo dynasty KMA is even sadder.
this is all quite funny considering that the assumption made is that i'm in IS..... (which i'm not btw... and never have)
which i can only assume your making that assumption since your quoting me nearly perfectly in this last post
"Kodak moment" related to nova.....
Actually this is a clear cause of total confusion and total misunderstanding.
if you read what i typed there at NO point in time did i say i fully agree with the thread title..
however i was posting my own dealings with KMA, which from my point of view... all i've ever ended up with is KMA attacking me or some of my party members for no apparent reason, completely unprovoked, for no reason at all, and while we were mostly on subs or in situations that obviously leaves us in a position of going "wtf was that for?".... while initially not bothing to retaliate.... only after a few other incidents..... while i personally never have lifted a finger to kma.... a few others in clan got a little agressive and decided that if kma was going to act in this way for no apparent reason, they wouldn't have a problem dropping them on the spot/going red/or temporarily siding in a pvp situation with someone against kma.
Theres been little to no discussion among the clan leaders about this... far as i have heard it's been basically no responce/reply/Confusion.
And going by the above post that seems to be directly relating to what i posted in the other thread... no wonder there is confusion, your claiming i'm IS or something.
As stated ..... again..... i only posted the historical relationship i've had with kma.... and while i find that tatics in my opinion undesireable considering all the factors at play, it's still just an opinion. And i will state yet again,...... i did not say kma was horrible or terrible or whatever..... i've very little to go from.... but what i have seen thus far is imo, interesting.
Coming to the official forums to call us names is sad when it's their own doing. Gloating that their zerg clan got 'kodak moment' help from NOVA against a solo dynasty KMA is even sadder.
For clarification... your referring to this..... correct? (if so then my above post is the responce.... just wanted to make sure)
I expesially enjoyed the moment when i happened to be running through fog and one happened to flag on me only for a Nova dagger in hide to show up a hair of a second later and backstab him for a single hit kill. KMA down, nova/myself still up. Those are kodak moments.
I don't side with nova either..... personally would rather stay neutral... But i also know that it simply doesn't matter who you are... taged or not..... from any clan... if you happen to go purple and nova is around... there is like a 95% chance your going to be pushing daisies a split second after they notice your purple.
this case being NOT the first..... and definitely not the last.. i've watched my own clans die for flagging on a wartag and dieing to a nova that happened to be in the area..... and vice versa.... If a nova is around, and they feel the wish to take the chance to get a pvp... they generally will. And i just find that those moments are quite litterally funny even if it's my own clan members.... "a kodak moment" so to speak.
this is all quite funny considering that the assumption made is that i'm in IS..... (which i'm not btw... and never have)
which i can only assume your making that assumption since your quoting me nearly perfectly in this last post
"Kodak moment" related to nova.....
Actually this is a clear cause of total confusion and total misunderstanding.
if you read what i typed there at NO point in time did i say i fully agree with the thread title..
however i was posting my own dealings with KMA, which from my point of view... all i've ever ended up with is KMA attacking me or some of my party members for no apparent reason, completely unprovoked, for no reason at all, and while we were mostly on subs or in situations that obviously leaves us in a position of going "wtf was that for?".... while initially not bothing to retaliate.... only after a few other incidents..... while i personally never have lifted a finger to kma.... a few others in clan got a little agressive and decided that if kma was going to act in this way for no apparent reason, they wouldn't have a problem dropping them on the spot/going red/or temporarily siding in a pvp situation with someone against kma.
Theres been little to no discussion among the clan leaders about this... far as i have heard it's been basically no responce/reply/Confusion.
And going by the above post that seems to be directly relating to what i posted in the other thread... no wonder there is confusion, your claiming i'm IS or something.
As stated ..... again..... i only posted the historical relationship i've had with kma.... and while i find that tatics in my opinion undesireable considering all the factors at play, it's still just an opinion. And i will state yet again,...... i did not say kma was horrible or terrible or whatever..... i've very little to go from.... but what i have seen thus far is imo, interesting.
if your being attack you know why and reason.... we dont just randomly attack you, if u didnt do nothing nor bother us... when it comes to you or ur clan havin beef agasint us then yes you'll see it coming...
Judas, I had no idea who you were, but now I do... you are DW, another large former castle owning clan that declared war on us. DW declared war because we retaliated on your clan for a single DW who wiped out a small farming party of subs, perhaps for justifiable reason, perhaps not. We stand our ground at xp spots. Sooo... we farmed you guys too. Since you dropped the war, we haven't done anything else to DW.
Just wanted to point out that we are too small to start fights. However, if you start the fight, it's going to get ugly for you and yours, and none of us are afraid to die, to kill another day.
We take comfort that we are always up on the kills, wherever we can find them. Keeping in mind our levels, we may not go after your mains. Our goal, once the war starts, is to make sure your clan will hurt more than ours. We are good at that.
BTW- your popcorn looks like dingleberries. Just saying.
if you start the fight, it's going to get ugly for you and yours, and none of us are afraid to die, to kill another day.
We take comfort that we are always up on the kills, wherever we can find them. Keeping in mind our levels, we may not go after your mains. Our goal, once the war starts, is to make sure your clan will hurt more than ours. We are good at that.
im not a kma hater , however, quotes like that just make u look silly, i empathise with the sentiment but thats all it is, or do u seriously believe u can take on all comers n be up rep everyday ?
im not a kma hater , however, quotes like that just make u look silly, i empathise with the sentiment but thats all it is, or do u seriously believe u can take on all comers n be up rep everyday ?
Are you saying that the majority of L2 players are griefers who like picking on small clans for no reason?
Hi hi pix, ya I am pretty meticulous when I log out to mark down in my brain what rep was at when I went to bed. Fun for me to check it.
As for you Judas if you were wondering why awhile back we would kill DW it was because as far as I remember it was in SoD and your clan leader was mad they couldnt stop us from hawking comps from him as they were popping and we made runs around the place. From that point on he declared war and said, I quote, "It will be a pk war, you won't be able to level." That didn't happen as we didnt really engage u guys too much and not many of you were committed to the pking besides a few ppl, who I respected in doing so. Those people recently left and the war was still up so we got you to drop it through what we do and now tbh were neutral to you guys as it seems the same way you are to us. Minus fun seiges and TWs obviously. That is the jist of the whole thing I believe. Now back on track ppl.
Are you saying that the majority of L2 players are griefers who like picking on small clans for no reason?
i meant more think before u speak - ie i already have my own opinion of innersphere u dont have to sound like a hardarse, that just makes u look like the griefer. As u asked.... personal experience would suggest that many are griefers who will pick a fight for no reason - idk if its the majority :-S
Hi hi pix, ya I am pretty meticulous when I log out to mark down in my brain what rep was at when I went to bed. Fun for me to check it.
^^ faun, i go for the antiquated pen n paper method ;-P
See initially when i pmed about this incident to clarify why such and such was occuring the answers given didn't make sense.. no one was giving a clear answer other then a sense of anger for something most if not many of all the people in dw hadn't a clue about... there was never a clear answer... and it also seemed like a few in kma didn't seem to know for certain why there was a problem as well.
now granted i know the war was one sided... why it had gone up in the first place was another question..
and i also know that when it comes to SoD...... it doesn't appear to matter clan ally or untagged that's around, i've even bore witness to internal fighting over comp stones which i think is fairly silly.
Now that i know more of what is occuring, or has occured, i can raise the issue. The only reason i know the wars were dropped it because while it's initially a little funny to see wars returned and ended constantly for about 30 minutes give or take.... it turned into unfortunately nothing more then a rep farm situation, provided with a clear upper hand it went up, kma farmed, killed, then it disappeared shortly afterwards. Which like i said, isn't my idea of a great strategy, personally..... but it's still one.... and it worked great in the end for kma.....
It's surprising sometimes what some things will be said behind closed doors, specially the leader... I'll heavily consider what was said.... and i don't in any way deny the possibility let alone would be entirely surprised by what he said considering that he's probably one of the very few on chronos that will farm the living **** out of SoD and really really gets hot under the collar it seems when it comes to farming them, which like i said... i may find silly.. but he's playing it.. unfortunately it ended up effecting the rest of DW without from my perspective any clear reason as to why.
I do know that there have been other situations with other clans, some emediately after the merge.. where some clans thought we were unofficially allied with nova or in or whatever and taking forts and killing without reason, when in fact the combination of numbers between that clan and our clan would have been required to fend off nova..... (this is an example).... instead of listening to what we had said, they ended up focusing their attacks on us, while we tried to do what we could against nova... while getting attacked by the other clan for something we aren't even doing. Quite a series of events.. and i know this occured (not necessarily with nova but clans far better geared and lvled then we are, yet somehow deathwish managed to be the bad guys)...
Guess people will pick and choose. I know a number of members that i personally view as trigger happy, and generally, you can even tell in their voice, they really don't want to ask question first at all sometimes. They'd rather pk someone and continue on. Which i've my own opinions about, unfortunately they don't seem to care what the reprocautions are due to that. And then they have the gull sometimes to get ****** off when whomever they killed managed to kill them and their buffer and/or party.
This is a perfect example of why i generally don't do wild and crazy pvp unless it's clearly for the fun of pvp.... Gank squads.... specially killing members of a clan that had clearly no involvement in the killing of myself and others at a previous time. I don't do it. I only get a little peaved when i'm blamed for something i wasn't at all involved in..
Either way.... just figured i'd express my point of view on the matter.... I wasn't attempting to single KMA out for anything at all, and i completely respect your position on the matter at hand. But only 3 days ago a kma asked for IS positions, before that, it appeared i was going to get dropped by whomever it was.. can't recall the name, but i know the 2 in my party at the time were a needles point away from killing them due to the previous aggressions or tensions.
Well, the bottom line is that KMA is not a griefer clan. We simply don't let people pick and pick on us without payback where we can.
We don't start wars, we don't start anything without cause. If someone else has an xp spot, I respect that and go try to find my own. I've yet to attack a single player in L2 that wasn't a war/flagged on us/griefed a ally situation.
We don't QQ about what happens either, win or lose. It was just annoying to see someone from a huge clan who DID grief our subs/lowbies call us a 'horrible clan' on the official forums because we didn't let them browbeat us without repercussions.
If it makes people question who they are clanned with, good. If they can't pick on clans their own size, then we simply apply the same tactics back on them. If that makes us cowards, then they need to go look in a mirror. It absolutely doesn't make us griefers, because we are not.
Well, the bottom line is that KMA is not a griefer clan. We simply don't let people pick and pick on us without payback where we can.
We don't start wars, we don't start anything without cause. If someone else has an xp spot, I respect that and go try to find my own. I've yet to attack a single player in L2 that wasn't a war/flagged on us/griefed a ally situation.
We don't QQ about what happens either, win or lose. It was just annoying to see someone from a huge clan who DID grief our subs/lowbies call us a 'horrible clan' on the official forums because we didn't let them browbeat us without repercussions.
If it makes people question who they are clanned with, good. If they can't pick on clans their own size, then we simply apply the same tactics back on them. If that makes us cowards, then they need to go look in a mirror. It absolutely doesn't make us griefers, because we are not.
The only thing more blinding than the ignorance in this post is the sun. Saying "we" when you mean "I" makes all the difference in this post about your clan.
Well, the bottom line is that KMA is not a griefer clan. We simply don't let people pick and pick on us without payback where we can.
We don't start wars, we don't start anything without cause. If someone else has an xp spot, I respect that and go try to find my own. I've yet to attack a single player in L2 that wasn't a war/flagged on us/griefed a ally situation.
We don't QQ about what happens either, win or lose. It was just annoying to see someone from a huge clan who DID grief our subs/lowbies call us a 'horrible clan' on the official forums because we didn't let them browbeat us without repercussions.
If it makes people question who they are clanned with, good. If they can't pick on clans their own size, then we simply apply the same tactics back on them. If that makes us cowards, then they need to go look in a mirror. It absolutely doesn't make us griefers, because we are not.
What happened to your friend that got banned for the RMT on there boss jewels by the way? Haven't seen him in a while?
The only thing more blinding than the ignorance in this post is the sun. Saying "we" when you mean "I" makes all the difference in this post about your clan.
Oh comon Flipsy. This thread was about clans, not individuals. I know there's a couple of KMA you have long standing personal issues with, but they don't involve either clan as wholes. Your generalization is as bad as your claim of mine.
We do not attack your clan and vice versa. There are some real relationships between members of your clan and KMA members. I don't know what you're mad about, but those with personal grievances with you have never asked the clan as a whole to target either you or your clan and you know it.
What happened to your friend that got banned for the RMT on there boss jewels by the way? Haven't seen him in a while?
What is an RMT? I have had no friend that's ever been banned in L2 that I know of. Heck, I own no boss jewels myself (yet), how would I know what a RMT is? What on earth are you talking about?
**Um... is KMA the only clan in L2 that doesn't cheat? No wonder we're so small and underpowered. That must mean we're really talented:).
What is an RMT? I have had no friend that's ever been banned in L2 that I know of. Heck, I own no boss jewels myself (yet), how would I know what a RMT is? What on earth are you talking about?
**Um... is KMA the only clan in L2 that doesn't cheat? No wonder we're so small and underpowered. That must mean we're really talented:).
LOL...no the dark elf that you used to xp with out in SV...
+1, If only some people had this cognitive capacity...
The only thing more blinding than the ignorance in this post is the sun. Saying "we" when you mean "I" makes all the difference in this post about your clan.
lol Willow speaks of ignorance, why you such a hater Willow? Always so mad, KMA band wagon hater since Phoenix and hating strong, Blow on Willow Blow on.
What happened to your friend that got banned for the RMT on there boss jewels by the way? Haven't seen him in a while?
Who are you and what are you even talking about?
Honestly, go find something to do instead of forum patrol to get counts up. (This applies to most ppl here)
Well, the bottom line is that KMA is not a griefer clan. We simply don't let people pick and pick on us without payback where we can.
We don't start wars, we don't start anything without cause. If someone else has an xp spot, I respect that and go try to find my own. I've yet to attack a single player in L2 that wasn't a war/flagged on us/griefed a ally situation.
Is that why KMA had summoners logged out in Shutgart castle when we owned it, so they could summon in ppl to go red on afk's?
Is that why KMA had summoners logged out in Shutgart castle when we owned it, so they could summon in ppl to go red on afk's?
Or PK lowbie A-grade passers-by, whom are looking for clannies, with their S80 toons because the person was "tired and annoyed". Oh and the times they showed up to interfere with interclan farming during, I think, two fort sieges while unsigned just to 'town it' with full EXP loss. Oh and the time one of them was following a newly graduated academy toon and trying to KS the mobs and couldn't pickup the drops. So the newly grad asks "sup" then kills it to only be greeted once again by more S80 toons to kill the C-grader....
Or maybe I don't understand what qualifies as griefing.
Or PK lowbie A-grade passers-by, whom are looking for clannies, with their S80 toons because the person was "tired and annoyed". Oh and the times they showed up to interfere with interclan farming during, I think, two fort sieges while unsigned just to 'town it' with full EXP loss. Oh and the time one of them was following a newly graduated academy toon and trying to KS the mobs and couldn't pickup the drops. So the new grad asks "sup" then kills it to only be greeted once again by more S80 toons to kill the C-grader....
Or maybe I don't understand what qualifies as griefing.
im not saying any of that is ok but sometimes u just get tired of being fair when few others r - thats the impression i have of kma lately - they just got fed up of playing fair n getting crapped on :-S
there are so many more things that i think make a worst clan title everyone nit picking over this or that. really this thread has more finger pointing than a presidential election year in the US.
what makes a bad clan. many can speculate. can i throw a finger or two yeah i've had my in game wrong doings against me and i have done wrong to others as well as clan leader and as a officer. but no matter what i love those clans that show villainy!
to those fun clans like Incursion who would kill a lowbie with an s grader or grief beyond griefing and members who broke all the rules. I miss clans that had that nerve as a whole. they were players who were missing a few screws but held tight to their own code. madness rampant within. They Proudly were the knaves and to any clan that does their own like that while they may earn the "worst clan" title only cause they broke all rules and player codes of pve and pvp clans. enemies on both sides.
its those clans that are clearly horrible to all the other clans and you know what to expect from them. I knew when i saw them near i should prepare for battle. i knew it was gonna be a 3v1 fight at best 9v1 at worst. and when you win against that you just felt good.
to me truelly horrible clans are those pve clans that say they take care of their own and when one is attacked by a knave clan and no one shows up to help when all you were doing was lvl'n and get pkd. then get blamed for it all... those are horrible clans.
Before I go any further let me state that I am NOT an IS officer, senior member and do not have any say so in clan politics. Yes I know I get my but kicked by ppl like DMA(Camelot) and alot of others but even when I was in S grade gear (2 weeks ago) I never BSOE'ed from a fight and never plan too (I'm to poor to buy the darn things). I'm not here to trash talk anyone directly but I am here to share my introduction to KMA and when I first heard clan discussing them. It was about a month ago that KMA signed with Innadril while IS held the castle. KMA arrived and began killing the smaller clans that IS was helping to farm badges so thier members can get noble while IS could only watch it happen. I was in one of those small clans being killed by 80+ while I was still S grade but no biggie it happens. KMA then proceeded to logout a toon in the IS castle and later while ppl were afk in the throne room, KMA gated ppl in and PK'ed AFK IS members. I joined IS after this incident and after the next TW....yeap, KMA did it again. That is when IS declared war on KMA and began activily hunting them down. Although I admire the bold ambush tactics used by KMA initially, I do not think they are a clan that was being harassed by IS prior to the TW attacks unless it was isolated incidents that were not being reported to anyone. I personally dont mind the war with KMA since I suck at PVP and need the practice but it has become a bit of a joke in vent when the "KMA declares a clan war" message pops up and we all wait to see which member is about to be ganked while soloing. Its a PVP game so by all means enjoy it. Flame on people.
Before I go any further let me state that I am NOT an IS officer, senior member and do not have any say so in clan politics. Yes I know I get my but kicked by ppl like DMA(Camelot) and alot of others but even when I was in S grade gear (2 weeks ago) I never BSOE'ed from a fight and never plan too (I'm to poor to buy the darn things). I'm not here to trash talk anyone directly but I am here to share my introduction to KMA and when I first heard clan discussing them. It was about a month ago that KMA signed with Innadril while IS held the castle. KMA arrived and began killing the smaller clans that IS was helping to farm badges so thier members can get noble while IS could only watch it happen. I was in one of those small clans being killed by 80+ while I was still S grade but no biggie it happens. KMA then proceeded to logout a toon in the IS castle and later while ppl were afk in the throne room, KMA gated ppl in and PK'ed AFK IS members. I joined IS after this incident and after the next TW....yeap, KMA did it again. That is when IS declared war on KMA and began activily hunting them down. Although I admire the bold ambush tactics used by KMA initially, I do not think they are a clan that was being harassed by IS prior to the TW attacks unless it was isolated incidents that were not being reported to anyone. I personally dont mind the war with KMA since I suck at PVP and need the practice but it has become a bit of a joke in vent when the "KMA declares a clan war" message pops up and we all wait to see which member is about to be ganked while soloing. Its a PVP game so by all means enjoy it. Flame on people.
Before I go any further let me state that I am NOT an IS officer, senior member and do not have any say so in clan politics. Yes I know I get my but kicked by ppl like DMA(Camelot) and alot of others but even when I was in S grade gear (2 weeks ago) I never BSOE'ed from a fight and never plan too (I'm to poor to buy the darn things). I'm not here to trash talk anyone directly but I am here to share my introduction to KMA and when I first heard clan discussing them. It was about a month ago that KMA signed with Innadril while IS held the castle. KMA arrived and began killing the smaller clans that IS was helping to farm badges so thier members can get noble while IS could only watch it happen. I was in one of those small clans being killed by 80+ while I was still S grade but no biggie it happens. KMA then proceeded to logout a toon in the IS castle and later while ppl were afk in the throne room, KMA gated ppl in and PK'ed AFK IS members. I joined IS after this incident and after the next TW....yeap, KMA did it again. That is when IS declared war on KMA and began activily hunting them down. Although I admire the bold ambush tactics used by KMA initially, I do not think they are a clan that was being harassed by IS prior to the TW attacks unless it was isolated incidents that were not being reported to anyone. I personally dont mind the war with KMA since I suck at PVP and need the practice but it has become a bit of a joke in vent when the "KMA declares a clan war" message pops up and we all wait to see which member is about to be ganked while soloing. Its a PVP game so by all means enjoy it. Flame on people.
Are you saying that during TW, no one is supposed to kill anyone? You're kidding?
KMA then proceeded to logout a toon in the IS castle and later while ppl were afk in the throne room, KMA gated ppl in and PK'ed AFK IS members.
happens also at forts. its pretty funny when 9 ppl come out of fort dungeon and u pop a nuker bubble on them or if u summon above their spawn in fortress and it takes 10 minutes till some1 of them reaches the expel npc^^
whats the problem if u have war always up? 0.1% loss + fort/ch/castle rez is too much?
That is when IS declared war on KMA and began activily hunting them down. Although I admire the bold ambush tactics used by KMA initially, I do not think they are a clan that was being harassed by IS prior to the TW attacks unless it was isolated incidents that were not being reported to anyone. I personally dont mind the war with KMA since I suck at PVP and need the practice but it has become a bit of a joke in vent when the "KMA declares a clan war" message pops up and we all wait to see which member is about to be ganked while soloing. Its a PVP game so by all means enjoy it. Flame on people.
so what is a small clan like KMA supposed to do against a big clan like yours? u think they gonna fight clan vs clan in open field or what? sure they try to gank your *** off, many clans do that against bigger clans, its the only thing that works.
and since i saw with my own eyes what kind of clan IS is and how they act, i am sure kma has enough reasons to do what they are doing.
your own words: Its a PVP game
p.s.: worst thing about kma is TwillightViktor. who talks like he would have 10k pvp points but bsoe/pr from any even fight.
Are you saying that during TW, no one is supposed to kill anyone? You're kidding?
I dont think it was the TW fight itself, I only said that was my personal introduction to KMA. Its my opinion that the AFK PKing is what started it. This isnt a "he said she said finger pointing contest" or anything but its hard to sit back and listen to KMA claim they are an innocent small clan that was unjustly attacked by a "large" clan.
I also dont disagree with the way KMA goes around killing our c and B grade subs with their A grade or higher subs. I personally have been killed by "Gomey" more than a few times while I was in C grade. Its a war and its purpose is to kill your enemy with overwhelming force to insure that you are the one that walks away. Sometimes IS is the one that wins and sometimes KMA/Camelot/WYN/AG are the ones that are victorious.
whats the problem if u have war always up? 0.1% loss + fort/ch/castle rez is too much?
so what is a small clan like KMA supposed to do against a big clan like yours? u think they gonna fight clan vs clan in open field or what? sure they try to gank your *** off, many clans do that against bigger clans, its the only thing that works.
and since i saw with my own eyes what kind of clan IS is and how they act, i am sure kma has enough reasons to do what they are doing.
your own words: Its a PVP game
There is no problem with fighting ppl ingame, thats what L2 is about. I didn't criticize the way they are waging a war against anyone. Dont get me wrong when I say that L2 is all about PVP. That doesnt mean that you should be run into a fight that is blatantly senseless, that just makes you look like an idiot. KMA is fighting the way they need to fight and I am sure that IS will use some of these methods in return. If an enemy has a good tactic then use it, its still a good tactic regardless on who came up with it.
Personally I dont think that either clan needs to have our wars on official forums. We're both nonfactor clans that have no influence on the server whatsoever. Although I am now curious as to why so many ppl are anti-InnerSphere. Since I have been with clan I have seen nothing but a group of ppl that enjoy raids, fort/castle sieges, PVE and PVP.
possibly all comes down to server merges lol - i know the last time we merged "party protecting" was a phrase id never heard of n didnt really understand - did make me realise that diff servers had there own unspoken rules that i was completely oblivous too.
possibly all comes down to server merges lol - i know the last time we merged "party protecting" was a phrase id never heard of n didnt really understand - did make me realise that diff servers had there own unspoken rules that i was completely oblivous too.
Same here Pix. Last week was the first time I had heard the term "Party protecting". Usually if I am in party with someone I tell them to not get involved if PVP comes along unless they feel the need to drag their clan into a war but friends being friends will always jump right in once the hitting starts. I have also seen "Party Protecting" used as an excuse to start drama at times.....welcome to L2.
If Lineage 2 was a world where everyone got along I guess it would'nt have lasted as long as it has though.
Same here Pix. Last week was the first time I had heard the term "Party protecting". Usually if I am in party with someone I tell them to not get involved if PVP comes along unless they feel the need to drag their clan into a war but friends being friends will always jump right in once the hitting starts. I have also seen "Party Protecting" used as an excuse to start drama at times.....welcome to L2.
If Lineage 2 was a world where everyone got along I guess it would'nt have lasted as long as it has though.
It was about a month ago that KMA signed with Innadril while IS held the castle. KMA arrived and began killing the smaller clans that IS was helping to farm badges so thier members can get noble while IS could only watch it happen. I was in one of those small clans being killed by 80+ while I was still S grade but no biggie it happens. KMA then proceeded to logout a toon in the IS castle and later while ppl were afk in the throne room, KMA gated ppl in and PK'ed AFK IS members. I joined IS after this incident and after the next TW....yeap, KMA did it again. That is when IS declared war on KMA and began activily hunting them down. Although I admire the bold ambush tactics used by KMA initially, I do not think they are a clan that was being harassed by IS prior to the TW attacks unless it was isolated incidents that were not being reported to anyone. I personally dont mind the war with KMA since I suck at PVP and need the practice but it has become a bit of a joke in vent when the "KMA declares a clan war" message pops up and we all wait to see which member is about to be ganked while soloing. Its a PVP game so by all means enjoy it. Flame on people.
I dont think it was the TW fight itself, I only said that was my personal introduction to KMA. Its my opinion that the AFK PKing is what started it. This isnt a "he said she said finger pointing contest" or anything but its hard to sit back and listen to KMA claim they are an innocent small clan that was unjustly attacked by a "large" clan.
your stuff is a bit out of order bud. we wouldnt and didnt put the gater in your castle until after the war was thrown up from IS side. There was no need to PK when we can toggle. And at that point.. we are at war. theres no such thing as griefing your wartags. :)
The only thing that you could say provoked this war was the TW war killings.. and tbh, we got to your castle the last hour... if your still farming for your kills after 1 hour.. your doing it wrong. BUT even so - its a TW, not like any of you lost anything, and as a plus, you made our night :)
Going to throw a gratuitous comment in here about the TW starting it all... you are mistaken. YOUR clannie griefing our subs/alts started the TW farming. Lets not forget first cause here.
your stuff is a bit out of order bud. we wouldnt and didnt put the gater in your castle until after the war was thrown up from IS side. There was no need to PK when we can toggle. And at that point.. we are at war. theres no such thing as griefing your wartags. :)
The only thing that you could say provoked this war was the TW war killings.. and tbh, we got to your castle the last hour... if your still farming for your kills after 1 hour.. your doing it wrong. BUT even so - its a TW, not like any of you lost anything, and as a plus, you made our night :)
If you read what you quoted, you will see that we were helping alot more smaller clans too get their batches. Since none of them are on vent its harder too get things in order. thats why we were still busy.
Fight the war the way you want it, its all in the game. But don't act like if we(as in IS) zerged a smaller clan like you(as in WyN) just because we are bigger. You started it thats when the war went up. If some lowbies got pked i never heard of it, if that was the case i would have solved it personally. Just say GF and move on
people are starting to quote three or more posts and right a long detailed middle school essay on their opinion, why they are right and why everyone else is wrong. I stopped reading as soon as i saw a quote longer than one line....
If you read what you quoted, you will see that we were helping alot more smaller clans too get their batches. Since none of them are on vent its harder too get things in order. thats why we were still busy.
Fight the war the way you want it, its all in the game. But don't act like if we(as in IS) zerged a smaller clan like you(as in WyN) just because we are bigger. You started it thats when the war went up. If some lowbies got pked i never heard of it, if that was the case i would have solved it personally. Just say GF and move on
you put up war we kill... you drop war we will leave you alone. end of story.
You can count camelot in, since they adopted EO rat tactics and started to toggle wars.
Pretty sad for a clan which used to rule the server back in the gustin days.
Really? If it's what I heard about then that was just a 1 time for the lulz of it thing. No one in Camelot is throwing wars up and down on a daily basis.
Really? If it's what I heard about then that was just a 1 time for the lulz of it thing. No one in Camelot is throwing wars up and down on a daily basis.
They definitely did it quite a bit against Memoria when I was in it lol
KMA are worthless griefing scrubs. Come on field in TW with same ally as IS, kill all lowbie clans and destroy their flags. No wonder they get warred it's plain taking the P***.
Then just use the war toggling to grief lowbies or solo people. Personally if I was IS leadership I'd drop war with KMA and just pk theim, if they raise war then war-toggle back until they get sick of it. KMA/Their ally is a complete joke, the fat kid who likes to try and pick on people cos they get picked on by the bigger kids.
Camelot aren't too dishonorable or nasty but do tend to run 5-9 man gank parties round solo areas alongside AG now. To be honest most of them seem pretty cool.
Main fact is none of these clans are any good really, all pretty much non-factors. If AG + Camelot + IS joined up they might prove a reasonable factor on chronos as one unit as a "legit" side to the server. Sadly since they are in war IS individually is complete non-factor, but stronger than Wyn ally or Camelot or EO. Camelot + AG is pretty much just AG plus another party so still not really a factor.
I seem to have misplaced my CIA Flipsy file, so perhaps you could tell me when that was :D
Sheesh...uhm...OOH around winter of 2009 I think. Whenever I first got hero x.X I'm pretty sure it was November 2009 that I got it, so around that timeframe. lol
KMA are worthless griefing scrubs. Come on field in TW with same ally as IS, kill all lowbie clans and destroy their flags. No wonder they get warred it's plain taking the P***.
Then just use the war toggling to grief lowbies or solo people. Personally if I was IS leadership I'd drop war with KMA and just pk theim, if they raise war then war-toggle back until they get sick of it. KMA/Their ally is a complete joke, the fat kid who likes to try and pick on people cos they get picked on by the bigger kids.
IS joined up they might prove a reasonable factor on chronos as one unit as a "legit" side to the server.
Are you a IS clan member? Well if not let me post some clan rules for you right off the IS website.
1. Our clan policy for the bots/e-bay is to discourage people to use them. If someone inside IS use bot programs or buying adena/items with real life money it’s his choice and we ask to keep it for himself only.
2. If a member is found to use bot program while he is in a IS party/event it will be dismissed from clan for putting in danger other people property.
3. If one member choose to use bot program it is forbidden for any reason to have auto-rez open at any time. If this came to the clans attention it will mean direct dismiss from clan.
4. Our clan has ways to provide gear, skill books, and adena in order to help some members. Also our clan is highly active and we encourage people to xp in party. This is a good way to xp/quest/make adena in order to avoid any bot/e-bay solution you may had in need at the past.
5. If a member discover another member using bot it is highly recommended to report this to officer/leader in private in order for them to take actions.
6. Members who have been found to use bot programs and they have warned about this from officers/leader will not be untrusted by clan items/gear because they put in danger things that all clan work for those.
Yup sounds real legit to me. You can bot just leave auto rez off and keep it to urself. LOL
Don't really want to quote that whole IS charter of rights and liberties but +1 indeed to the proof in the pudding or however that saying goes. Definitely made me laugh and explains one of the groups I found in GC too O.o.
KMA are worthless griefing scrubs. Come on field in TW with same ally as IS, kill all lowbie clans and destroy their flags. No wonder they get warred it's plain taking the P***.
Then just use the war toggling to grief lowbies or solo people. Personally if I was IS leadership I'd drop war with KMA and just pk theim, if they raise war then war-toggle back until they get sick of it. KMA/Their ally is a complete joke, the fat kid who likes to try and pick on people cos they get picked on by the bigger kids.
Camelot aren't too dishonorable or nasty but do tend to run 5-9 man gank parties round solo areas alongside AG now. To be honest most of them seem pretty cool.
Main fact is none of these clans are any good really, all pretty much non-factors. If AG + Camelot + IS joined up they might prove a reasonable factor on chronos as one unit as a "legit" side to the server. Sadly since they are in war IS individually is complete non-factor, but stronger than Wyn ally or Camelot or EO. Camelot + AG is pretty much just AG plus another party so still not really a factor.
This cracked me up:). KMA is probably the RL best looking 14 people in all of L2. We hast no cheezeboogers here. At this size, probably every other clan on the server is 'bigger'. So what. Go pick your nose some more.
As for the 'horrible griefing'... while 'farming' TW is probably the most common method for getting badges, that isn't what TW was meant to be. I'm not complaining about anyone farming, but how on earth can you cry about people killed during TERRITORY WARS, when that's the purpose and intent of Territory Wars? You just don't get it do you?
Btw... out of curiosity, which factored clan do you belong to:)?
This cracked me up:). KMA is probably the RL best looking 14 people in all of L2. We hast no cheezeboogers here. At this size, probably every other clan on the server is 'bigger'. So what. Go pick your nose some more.
As for the 'horrible griefing'... while 'farming' TW is probably the most common method for getting badges, that isn't what TW was meant to be. I'm not complaining about anyone farming, but how on earth can you cry about people killed during TERRITORY WARS, when that's the purpose and intent of Territory Wars? You just don't get it do you?
Btw... out of curiosity, which factored clan do you belong to:)?
Problem is they aren't killing anyone at TW only flags. Since they are signed to the same TW as the person's flag we cant stop them from attacking our flag because we are not able to attack them. It is called exploiting the game mechanics not actually killing anyone because they get rolled off siege grounds by IS but run onto siege grounds so they cant be killed lol
Problem is they aren't killing anyone at TW only flags. Since they are signed to the same TW as the person's flag we cant stop them from attacking our flag because we are not able to attack them. It is called exploiting the game mechanics not actually killing anyone because they get rolled off siege grounds by IS but run onto siege grounds so they cant be killed lol
It's actually a pretty clever idea to grief a clan they don't like. Nothing wrong with that per se.
This cracked me up:). KMA is probably the RL best looking 14 people in all of L2. We hast no cheezeboogers here. At this size, probably every other clan on the server is 'bigger'. So what. Go pick your nose some more.
As for the 'horrible griefing'... while 'farming' TW is probably the most common method for getting badges, that isn't what TW was meant to be. I'm not complaining about anyone farming, but how on earth can you cry about people killed during TERRITORY WARS, when that's the purpose and intent of Territory Wars? You just don't get it do you?
Btw... out of curiosity, which factored clan do you belong to:)?
Yup sounds real legit to me. You can bot just leave auto rez off and keep it to urself. LOL
We've gone on unwritten group ideals for a long time, and have had that initial ruff version of trying to translate it into nice points there for a few months, well overdue to be polished up. You misinterpreted with the help of some typo/miswording to come up with a meaning of 'You can bot just leave auto rez off and keep it to urself', good for you.
We understand the playerbase/history for this game and have a more honest and realisitcally enforceable policy than most other so called legit clans. We dont even claim to be fully legit as I dont think any clan with more than 50 players can claim that, but we certainly arent a bot clan and when we recruit we advertise for legit players.
Its a safe bet for all sizable clans at least a number of the members in those clans have at the very least ebayed at some point let alone bot.
I guess comes down to we're mature enough to not be antibot haters (some take it so far its almost like racism) sure want less of such things in the game as possible just the same, especially in clan, but no hate towards someone based on that alone. Its a game and people always > game. I save my hate for tools :p
Well, it looks like you said quite a bit more, and Sace edited it. But I'm going to answer the implication anyway.
First of all, there is no Voodoo in KMA and never has been.
HOWEVER, I will not deny that I know one, who did in fact get banned for buying adena. This is clearly against the EULA, and clearly not something people should do.
He was only 3 month or so from having ever heard of L2, was a COMPLETE newbie and did something foolish. I felt very sorry for him, because you DO need gear to play normally, and most newbies don't know how to get it. This game has been out for 6 years, that's a Bachelor's degree and a Master's worth of time. In most professions, 6 years makes you an expert. You can be an accountant in 6 years, and in some cases a MD or JD. How does someone who played for 6 years compare themselves to someone who played for 3 MONTHS?
Shame on him for his ignorance, but he not only got banned for it, he lost the real life dollars worth of ill-gotten gains too. I am way more disgusted by people who are so dispicably self-righteous that they want to continue to punish someone who already got punished both in and out of the game.
I'm even more disgusted that anyone can think that people who meet or know someone who did something they shouldn't have are guilty of something wrong as well. That's a sign of alzheimers you know, unable to distinguish one person from another. If L2's policy were guilt by association, there would not be a single person left playing L2. That would include you, who know so much about your RMA's and VOODOO.
On the subject, I have yet to see an Oly cheater lose his Hero status, or a program user lose the XP he illegally gained. It takes only 1 fight to tell who the cheaters are, with the superhuman lag-free game reactions to hidden targets.
Why not reset caught botters down 20-40 levels. Bet that slows botting fast, and it'd be exactly comparable to taking someone's illegal adena away. I don't know why they don't, it would end botting for levels as we know it. Announce it at log in, and set a few examples. Botting would probably stop in days.
Cheaters can be stripped of levels as well. Use a program? Drop from 85 to 79. If they were cheating for pvp, their victims would be able to deliver the retribution they deserve. Now THAT would be sweet:).
There are real game consequences for buying adena. When the game evolves enough to provide consequences to botters and cheaters, it'll be a much fairer game.
lol Im trying to bite my tongue here but I remember having to sacrifice my dagger running into FOTD in the middle of a party of war tags rezzing an afk IS so they could get him outta combat long enuff to kick the sorry person from clan hahah
We've gone on unwritten group ideals for a long time, and have had that initial ruff version of trying to translate it into nice points there for a few months, well overdue to be polished up. You misinterpreted with the help of some typo/miswording to come up with a meaning of 'You can bot just leave auto rez off and keep it to urself', good for you.
No. You don't disappear when you cover your eyes. We can still see you. Despite the above, its hard to account for radar sirens blaring in vent, CL asking if anyone has radar up to find enemies, and the CL's own brother getting banned for botting. Maybe times changed once GMs started banning, but the rewriting history is silly.
And some gyrlies should do less hahacreampuffs and more jazzercise especially when their home clan was no stranger to botting.
probably for the same reasons u dont always return wars ?
A clan made out of your own boxes does not qualify as a clan... what do u have... 3 active members......
whe we have wars with you, we searched and searched all over the map at many times of the day for "your clan" but they are nowhere to be found.... on the other hand, you like griefing lvl 76-80.... on your lvl 84...... that its kind of lame.... if you have the balls to grief like that then have them to pk as well......
And BTW KMA is turning wars on and off with us at least once a day.... LOL
What an assinine thread to briefly scan through. One highlight = bot commentary.....always a silver lining in every thread......
==> auto play, auto target, auto radar, auto scan on other players, and w/e other auto exists out there.....for those who can't do it themselves...aka. LOSERS ....HAVE A NICE DAY ALL......
A clan made out of your own boxes does not qualify as a clan... what do u have... 3 active members......
whe we have wars with you, we searched and searched all over the map at many times of the day for "your clan" but they are nowhere to be found.... on the other hand, you like griefing lvl 76-80.... on your lvl 84...... that its kind of lame.... if you have the balls to grief like that then have them to pk as well......
And BTW KMA is turning wars on and off with us at least once a day.... LOL
compared to EO doing to camelot in the past ... lmao u did put wars up and down at least 5 times a day
A clan made out of your own boxes does not qualify as a clan... what do u have... 3 active members......
whe we have wars with you, we searched and searched all over the map at many times of the day for "your clan" but they are nowhere to be found.... on the other hand, you like griefing lvl 76-80.... on your lvl 84...... that its kind of lame.... if you have the balls to grief like that then have them to pk as well......
And BTW KMA is turning wars on and off with us at least once a day.... LOL
the point i was making is u dont always return wars neither do kma what makes one right the other questionable ?
your response is not only inacurrate but is another example of u accusing ppl of things ur guilty of which is just plain silly :-P
You couldnt have looked very hard - we were xping in the same spots at the time, im lvl 80 now and was 79 or less a year or more ago when u warred us - i dont like griefing infact thats how we ended up at war because ur clan had a habbit of randomly hitting ppl for no apparent reason and on the subject of boxing u werent often played by u back then as i recall it ?
lol Im trying to bite my tongue here but I remember having to sacrifice my dagger running into FOTD in the middle of a party of war tags rezzing an afk IS so they could get him outta combat long enuff to kick the sorry person from clan hahah
Exactly :p
No. You don't disappear when you cover your eyes. We can still see you. Despite the above, its hard to account for radar sirens blaring in vent, CL asking if anyone has radar up to find enemies, and the CL's own brother getting banned for botting. Maybe times changed once GMs started banning, but the rewriting history is silly.
No. You dont give a full picture using one dab of paint. History is not hard to account at all - yes I also recall a single siren in vent occassionally which was a little help from the bot minority to sometimes slightly edge the gap with wat enemy used.
If we are talking history you will see difference to bot clans:
- members using bot program = < 5-10%
- academy bot farming crp = 0%
- castle seed bot farming income = 0%
- auto pvp programs = 0%
Has never been a bot clan and sorry that you got that impression. I havent been back very long but it seems game is cleaner now and I think number who use bot to level is much lower, although programs for auto pvp stuff are used alot maybe? We still have none.
I'll say it again we dont claim to be fully legit - but are nothing close to a bot clan. Also at the other end of the scale we arent strict hater wunkers either. We're just awesome :p Btw not cool with the RL digs on a girl, gyrlie <3 you're a hottie.
To summarize the off topic crup on bots and innersphere being legit or not, this has been stated before as well: Innerpshere = 95% legit, but we arent legit-drum-beaters and are just cool with the game.
Play game. Have fun. Be cool to people. Kill KMA cause they suck. Wait wat, oh yeah they do.
If we are talking history you will see difference to bot clans:
- members using bot program = < 5-10%
- academy bot farming crp = 0%
- castle seed bot farming income = 0%
- auto pvp programs = 0%
Did you just tell everyone on the Official Forums that InnerSphere clan is 5%-10% illegal program users?
i always thought u guys are 87.61% legit. but...95%... thats nearly 100%... so u only have 10 ebaying bots in your whole clan that use radar and other cheats...seriously, u are saints!!!
haha thanks Darkrich ... ya know they dont bother me =)
'o.O I cant beat pixels in a game let's call her fat cause that will make me feel better'... right .. always makes perfect sense to me.
Anyway.. I never said anything about the clans I have been in being legit or not legit one way or another. All I am saying is something that I remember from being in alliance with IS.
I can honestly say that I dont think there is ONE clan left that plays this game that can say they are 100% legit so why exactly are we still arguing the subject?
haha thanks Darkrich ... ya know they dont bother me =)
'o.O I cant beat pixels in a game let's call her fat cause that will make me feel better'... right .. always makes perfect sense to me.
Anyway.. I never said anything about the clans I have been in being legit or not legit one way or another. All I am saying is something that I remember from being in alliance with IS.
I can honestly say that I dont think there is ONE clan left that plays this game that can say they are 100% legit so why exactly are we still arguing the subject?
I think a clan we warred actually went too our website and tried too find a reason why their getting beatdown. And why they need too toggle the wars on and off. We in IS dont endorse botting and we never have. We however do recruit new people and yes there have been a couple occasion where those people weren't legit. and i agree saying you clan is 100% legit when you got over 50 memebers is like saying there will be world peace someday....sheet aint gonna happen
A clan made out of your own boxes does not qualify as a clan... what do u have... 3 active members......
whe we have wars with you, we searched and searched all over the map at many times of the day for "your clan" but they are nowhere to be found.... on the other hand, you like griefing lvl 76-80.... on your lvl 84...... that its kind of lame.... if you have the balls to grief like that then have them to pk as well......
And BTW KMA is turning wars on and off with us at least once a day.... LOL
i think getting rolled hard u need excuses like that. but the facts is highest lvl in unity was 80. quality > quantity ;)
i always thought u guys are 87.61% legit. but...95%... thats nearly 100%... so u only have 10 ebaying bots in your whole clan that use radar and other cheats...seriously, u are saints!!!
Eat ur clan pvps with people that use cheats (not talking about alcapon3)
but nova.
did anywone say chopsuey yet? if not ill nominate them.
sorry, my english skills arent good enough for that.
what do u mean?
at fog few days ago a particular player was on my *** constantly even tho i was in hide. only thing i can think of is he used cheat of some sort. if not i wanna know the secret becuse thats BS. and asking/pvping with people that use cheats is just a downer. idk about u but i wouldnt want my clannies to do that. :rolleyes:
at fog few days ago a particular player was on my *** constantly even tho i was in hide. only thing i can think of is he used cheat of some sort. if not i wanna know the secret becuse thats BS. and asking/pvping with people that use cheats is just a downer. idk about u but i wouldnt want my clannies to do that. :rolleyes:
i dont care what nova does or does not. my clanies dont use such things, IF they would do, u wouldnt be able to gank them that much, right?
i dont know why those guys were pvp'ing with them, but i guess that was just random. if not they prob just dont like you and your crew. same happened to me when rdogs killed me while i was running behind some of your clanies. thats the game, u cant do anything when bots interfere in smaller clans pvp.
A clan made out of your own boxes does not qualify as a clan... what do u have... 3 active members......
whe we have wars with you, we searched and searched all over the map at many times of the day for "your clan" but they are nowhere to be found.... on the other hand, you like griefing lvl 76-80.... on your lvl 79...... that its kind of lame.... if you have the balls to grief like that then have them to pk as well......
And BTW KMA is turning wars on and off with us at least once a day.... LOL
getting rolled ???
STS 79 ganking lvl 76-80 is rolled hard mate......
Who are u ingame again?? I dont think I have ever seen you....
i dont care what nova does or does not. my clanies dont use such things, IF they would do, u wouldnt be able to gank them that much, right?
i dont know why those guys were pvp'ing with them, but i guess that was just random. if not they prob just dont like you and your crew. same happened to me when rdogs killed me while i was running behind some of your clanies. thats the game, u cant do anything when bots interfere in smaller clans pvp.
think its a diffrent thing when ur red ;P. who wouldnt kill him?
if im not wrong they where in same pty :/ atleast i think so since pandas aoes didnt hit them.
Why is it that if I as a domi kill 2 GK's ganking me while xping, im called a botter. DMA atleast said gf. The jalepeno GK just went on about me botting. FUnny thing is he flagged first and died first too. Now that is what i call a horrible player in a horrible clan. Much <3 KMA
Why is it that if I as a domi kill 2 GK's ganking me while xping, im called a botter. DMA atleast said gf. The jalepeno GK just went on about me botting. FUnny thing is he flagged first and died first too. Now that is what i call a horrible player in a horrible clan. Much <3 KMA
That Jalepino is just a Horrible player himself.... I'm pretty sure that's the guy who, with a party, killed my 5 completely afk boxes and flag at TW and started saying "rolled, lol, learn to play, ****" etc. He's also constantly shouting his mouth off like he's actually good at something while he consistently sucks at pvp.
Personally I take anyone saying I use programs as a compliment, means you gotta be good to be accused!
I think a clan we warred actually went too our website and tried too find a reason why their getting beatdown. And why they need too toggle the wars on and off. We in IS dont endorse botting and we never have. We however do recruit new people and yes there have been a couple occasion where those people weren't legit. and i agree saying you clan is 100% legit when you got over 50 memebers is like saying there will be world peace someday....sheet aint gonna happen
<3 Neiji
Didn't have togo far since I was in IS and left. 5 to 10% might be a bit low since that would only account for the lower gc groups. :/ Don't even play like this info on bots in clan is something new since it starts at the top and works its way down. The additude "I'll just get a 7 day ban first anyway" was said in vent more then once. Didn't take but a week to hear open talk about botting in clan so..
That Jalepino is just a Horrible player himself.... I'm pretty sure that's the guy who, with a party, killed my 5 completely afk boxes and flag at TW and started saying "rolled, lol, learn to play, ****" etc. He's also constantly shouting his mouth off like he's actually good at something while he consistently sucks at pvp.
Personally I take anyone saying I use programs as a compliment, means you gotta be good to be accused!
KMA are worthless griefing scrubs. Come on field in TW with same ally as IS, kill all lowbie clans and destroy their flags. No wonder they get warred it's plain taking the P***.
Then just use the war toggling to grief lowbies or solo people. Personally if I was IS leadership I'd drop war with KMA and just pk theim, if they raise war then war-toggle back until they get sick of it. KMA/Their ally is a complete joke, the fat kid who likes to try and pick on people cos they get picked on by the bigger kids.
Camelot aren't too dishonorable or nasty but do tend to run 5-9 man gank parties round solo areas alongside AG now. To be honest most of them seem pretty cool.
Main fact is none of these clans are any good really, all pretty much non-factors. If AG + Camelot + IS joined up they might prove a reasonable factor on chronos as one unit as a "legit" side to the server. Sadly since they are in war IS individually is complete non-factor, but stronger than Wyn ally or Camelot or EO. Camelot + AG is pretty much just AG plus another party so still not really a factor.
Finally after reading through this long *** post, something is said that makes sense.
lol Im trying to bite my tongue here but I remember having to sacrifice my dagger running into FOTD in the middle of a party of war tags rezzing an afk IS so they could get him outta combat long enuff to kick the sorry person from clan hahah
how long ago was that? kinda reaching here arent ya?
Man you edit your posts like every 2 minutes. I don't care about 0% XP loss on 5 toons while I'm playing another, I just found it hillarious how with a group you kill 5 toons who aren't there then give them abuse and tell them to learn to play etc like you're some hardcore pvp god lol. It's the equivalent of me going killing you and saying "rolled lol" (which I wouldn't do cos it's pointless).... congratulating yourself over a no-competition victory.
Didn't have togo far since I was in IS and left. 5 to 10% might be a bit low since that would only account for the lower gc groups. :/ Don't even play like this info on bots in clan is something new since it starts at the top and works its way down. The additude "I'll just get a 7 day ban first anyway" was said in vent more then once. Didn't take but a week to hear open talk about botting in clan so..
I've never seen IS running bot groups since I joined at merge, never heard em talking bout starting running bots in vent and never read any bot talk in clanchat and only once read someone talkign about bots on forums. He wrote one thread, there were 2 replies saying "lol don't be stupid you'll get banned" and he left clan shortly after.
I don't give a **** what other people do, but I'm just saying I haven't heard of it while I've been in IS.
Man you edit your posts like every 2 minutes. I don't care about 0% XP loss on 5 toons while I'm playing another, I just found it hillarious how with a group you kill 5 toons who aren't there then give them abuse and tell them to learn to play etc like you're some hardcore pvp god lol. It's the equivalent of me going killing you and saying "rolled lol" (which I wouldn't do cos it's pointless).... congratulating yourself over a no-competition victory.
does it matter if i edit my write? and matter fact who said i was the best? im not here to play l2 game to call myself best i dont play hardcore like you do i have a life thanks. and i had about 1 party of IS killed my SE and u see me calling them horrible? no... im not here to complain its a pvp just have to deal with it
I've never seen IS running bot groups since I joined at merge, never heard em talking bout starting running bots in vent and never read any bot talk in clanchat and only once read someone talkign about bots on forums. He wrote one thread, there were 2 replies saying "lol don't be stupid you'll get banned" and he left clan shortly after.
I don't give a **** what other people do, but I'm just saying I haven't heard of it while I've been in IS.
Hi Ferine, not going to battle you on this topic since you are one of the best legit IS out there and enjoyed partying with you in IS. Just cover ur eyes on my posts about the 5-10% of the bad ones :D
i have some Respect for some IS member and they dont bsoe or QQ or complain over in fourms Two people not gonna list their name and they are great players
No complaining I just think its funny argueing with people with falsely inflated egos.
You've not got a good toon, never seen or heard of you kill anyone and you clan can't even keep a constant war with a clan who you say sucks. None of the clans speaking in this thread are much a factor in the polotics of chronos at the moment anyway! It's like kids argueing over pokemon cards, get a sense of perspective!
Actually whatever happened to all the polotics and stuff in L2, I miss it. :(
I've never seen IS running bot groups since I joined at merge
if even your own clanies admit u have 5-10% bots, what are u trying to prove here? yes, there are way more bots in some other clans, but that doesnt make u guys legit... u bury your head in the sand and play the legit card...fine... but plz dont demand that from other players too.
and about KMA...
they are annoying and all they do is ganking ppl when they can and hide when they cant gank. its their way and obviously it works, cause else not so many ppl of your clan would come to forum and cry.
if even your own clanies admit u have 5-10% bots, what are u trying to prove here? yes, there are way more bots in some other clans, but that doesnt make u guys legit... u bury your head in the sand and play the legit card...fine... but plz dont demand that from other players too.
and about KMA...
they are annoying and all they do is ganking ppl when they can and hide when they cant gank. its their way and obviously it works, cause else not so many ppl of your clan would come to forum and cry.
I never called any legit junk or said IS doesn't have bots, I simply said I haven't seen any in my time in IS. I don't care if people do or don't bot just saying what I've seen.
This thread has been skating on thin ice from the very start, but now that it's degenerated into arguments, insults and name-calling, it's time has come to an end.