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(To learn the awakening skills, 2nd and 3rd lvl skills must have been learned in advanced. More awakening skills you learn, more of your old skills are going to be forgotten. For those enchanted 2nd and 3rd skills would be rewarded when forgotten.)
As skills from 2nd and 3rd classes will be removed ( or some) will spoiling and crafting be removed?
2. As party size will be resized to 7, is there any plans to remake the xping from 1 - 85. most in the later levels 80 - 85 ofc but how will it work?
As the new size of 7 is based on the new classes one get at 85+ it seems very hard to fit in the classes there prior to 85.
2. As party size will be resized to 7, is there any plans to remake the xping from 1 - 85. most in the later levels 80 - 85 ofc but how will it work?
As the new size of 7 is based on the new classes one get at 85+ it seems very hard to fit in the classes there prior to 85.
Good question. Since I would guess the party limit of 7 players would be "universal", i.e. also for non-awakened toons, a party with only non-awakened classes would have a hard time in the more difficult xp spots designed for the "old" 9 man parties (cardi, recharger, buffer, bd, sws, tank, one dd in the new antharas lair?)
thought process isn't relevant when ppl who are used to play always with 9ppl are forced to "fire" 2 from the party cause the dev team thought that a smart thing to do...
better ask wth the dev team was thinking when they came up with that bright idea
Ok had some questions and I am curios if players or Sace might know this.
1. As skills from 2nd and 3rd classes will be removed ( or some) will spoiling and crafting be removed?
2. As party size will be resized to 7, is there any plans to remake the xping from 1 - 85. most in the later levels 80 - 85 ofc but how will it work?
As the new size of 7 is based on the new classes one get at 85+ it seems very hard to fit in the classes there prior to 85.
As far as the pre-85 hunting grounds are concerned, everything before lvl 40 will be completely removed and replaced, the other hunting grounds will be reworked. Don't ask me what will happen to explicit 9 person instances like the Hall of Suffering in the Seed of Infinity.
I still can't understand: WHY NOT TO MAKE NEW GAME? Why not leave l2 alone and make new one...imo it's the top point of stupidity. It's like game was made by previous developers, that made it really nice, hard, with many little details and then gave away to a bunch of teenagers that decided game is not cool and erased everything that we once loved and stayed here playing, that was hard-made before them :(
The only thought that makes me happy - I will finally stop playing and pay more attention to my real life and career.
I still can't understand: WHY NOT TO MAKE NEW GAME? Why not leave l2 alone and make new one...imo it's the top point of stupidity..
+1
Destruction of all game archetype [check]
Removal of all previously known skills, OE or not [check]
Nerfing of party size [check]
Some of us here Love big parties, i can't tell you how much we would love 10 man parties in my clan.
I also worked my butt off making my main as a Cardinal to lvl 80 as a mostly casual player, I don't want to become HEALER01 like everyone else. I'm pretty sure those that actually play SE or EE feel the same (the non boxed one), same for every other class.
The more i look at this, the more it looks as a deal breaker to me. As it stands, first month of GOD might very well be my last ever in L2. It all just goes with the MIS-management that NC Soft has show itself making since my first day playing this game. I don't have to enumerate them here, we've all done it enough time.
But as usual, NC will just discard whatever their Customers think and keep on trucking with their decision...from 11 servers down to 2, you'd think they'd learn to listen by now
As far as the pre-85 hunting grounds are concerned, everything before lvl 40 will be completely removed and replaced, the other hunting grounds will be reworked. Don't ask me what will happen to explicit 9 person instances like the Hall of Suffering in the Seed of Infinity.
thanks, ok google dident work well for that. Did I get it correct that you transform 2-3rd class skills to 4th class skills?`so as a archer I would transform lets say. Stunshot +25 to a stunshot lvl 85+ skill? And the higher you level the more skills you can transform in to a high level skill? And you can also choose to exchange a 2nd and 3rd class skill for a new enlightend skill ?
That would be cool, but i think i missread haha :D
PS: if this is not how it works, this sounds like a very good way to make it work :D post to Korea please.
thanks, ok google dident work well for that. Did I get it correct that you transform 2-3rd class skills to 4th class skills?`so as a archer I would transform lets say. Stunshot +25 to a stunshot lvl 85+ skill? And the higher you level the more skills you can transform in to a high level skill? And you can also choose to exchange a 2nd and 3rd class skill for a new enlightend skill ?
That would be cool, but i think i missread haha :D
PS: if this is not how it works, this sounds like a very good way to make it work :D post to Korea please.
'Forgetting'/'Transforming' the skill to 4th class skill is something like, e.g. Learn Shield 3 -> Shield 2 is 'forgotten', Shield 3 is learnt during 2nd class. So if the 4th class skill is Shield 4, then I would 'forget' Shield 3 and Shield 4 is learnt. That's how I would interpret the information from Q&A.
About skills with enchants, it would 'refund' you a (dunno if it's only 1 or could be multiple) 'Giant Codex for 4th class skills enchants only' when skill is 'forgotten'.
'Forgetting'/'Transforming' the skill to 4th class skill is something like, e.g. Learn Shield 3 -> Shield 2 is 'forgotten', Shield 3 is learnt during 2nd class. So if the 4th class skill is Shield 4, then I would 'forget' Shield 3 and Shield 4 is learnt. That's how I would interpret the information from Q&A.
yea that is how i read it to,
example.
Stunning Shot Lv. 38 +25 would go to Enlightened Stunning Shot Lv. ( what ever counts as lvl 85 and above )
and you get refunded for the +25
As you read it like me I am starting to get my hopes up :D
Stunning Shot Lv. 38 +25 would go to Stunning Shot Lv. ( what ever counts as lvl 85 and above )
and you get refunded for the +25
As you read it like me I am starting to get my hopes up :D
Well then you read it right! :p since I do speak and read Chinese. Just wanted to clarify when you said "And the higher you level the more skills you can transform in to a high level skill?", since I thought you were thinking skills will go straight from skill enchants to higher 4th class skill. ^^
I still can't understand: WHY NOT TO MAKE NEW GAME? Why not leave l2 alone and make new one...imo it's the top point of stupidity. It's like game was made by previous developers, that made it really nice, hard, with many little details and then gave away to a bunch of teenagers that decided game is not cool and erased everything that we once loved and stayed here playing, that was hard-made before them :(
The only thought that makes me happy - I will finally stop playing and pay more attention to my real life and career.
+1. The game will have a LOT of changes including in its mechanincs and classes, so based on that how can we compare the player that are lvl 85 and uped in "classic" L2(i think is that way we will call versions before GOD) to new players that leveled up in GOD? Both way are too far diferent, i really think you can't change almost everything in the mechanics of the game without reseting it, or making a new one. Why not call l2 GOD as a new game and not as a l2 expansion?
Other point that i really don't understand, is right to tell that doesn't mean if you are a glad, tyrant, titan or doombringer, in the 4th you will have the same skills? If i am thinking right i really doesn't approve it.
I fear that you will lose a lot of players that like play l2 as the "old-school style".
check SlyCutters new topic if you want to know what happens with our 2nd & 3rd class skills.. if true in the end all will be replaced by 4th..
This is true in the sense of "this is what the developers said on February 10". You must always keep in mind that with Lineage 2 everything is true only for a given value of true. The statement that in the end all 2nd & 3rd class skills will be replaced by 4th class skills is a direct contradiction to what was said on January 10 about an Awakened sub-class sharing the Subclass Certification Skills of the main: http://lineage2.plaync.co.kr/promotion/newp/list?category=811004
One can't help the impression that the developers are making this up as they go along :D
This is true in the sense of "this is what the developers said on February 10". You must always keep in mind that with Lineage 2 everything is true only for a given value of true. The statement that in the end all 2nd & 3rd class skills will be replaced by 4th class skills is a direct contradiction to what was said on January 10 about an Awakened sub-class sharing the Subclass Certification Skills of the main: http://lineage2.plaync.co.kr/promotion/newp/list?category=811004
One can't help the impression that the developers are making this up as they go along :D
yea very true, diffrent devs say diffrent things about the same things. at diffrent times.
Some sources say all skills from 2nd and 3rd class will become new skills, and other sources say that the skill will become just higher level of the same skill.
Some sources say you can only participate in oly if you are 85+ other says that there will be 2 diffrent kinds of oly one for 85+ and one for 76 - 85.
All that is "certain" as I can see it is the reduce from 9 members to 7 members in party and that some of the new summoner attacks look silly :D, all other things are either speculations or facts that just change all the time.