Treasure Sacks Event Survey

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Overall was an ok event!
Yes, it was absolutely great!

After all, lets see what will happen with spare TSP's.
Should everyone bet on a reward, or make another "money day"?

Hmm, ok lets put on a shop these treasure pieces of junk, and see
whats gona happen.
Man, don't you think your poll is a bit biased? There is no option for "I enjoyed the event and I'm ok with the drop rate".
I think it was an ok event overall, but given the low drop rate from mobs and the amount of time it took to collect a decent amount from the island, I think the rewards should have been better. Instead of crappy scrolls for 5th and 6th place I think it should have been only attribute stones or something more useful.
The drop is kind of low during the day time, but it was pretty amazing during 1am to 3am EST every night.

Could easily get over 130+ in an hour

:eek:

similar experience? or is it just me?

:rolleyes:
i didnt like it, too much random running at fantasy island for some worthless scrolls (minus the few lucky people). I prefer events where we have to farm items by xp'ing or by killing random hard monsters that spawn (old raid boss event anyone?).

before ppl say they hate grind based events due to bots, this event catered to program users more than any grind X number of event items.


edit: also the korean random is lol, 2000 treasure pieces for a bunch of 6th and 5th place sacks, only to get 1 2nd place sack (that was the highest). waste of time imo, why spend all my time in game there doing that to get blessed C and D grade enchants, compeltely worthless.
The event was good, but I have seen some cheaters on the fantasy island:
The logged off immediately after opening a chest and taking the drop. Then then logged in again and opened another - skipping the skill reuse counter this way and extending the duration of the transformation.
Could you either save the countdown counter and continue the countdown on logon or make the transformation disappear on log off?

The rewads were ok for me - some transformation sealbooks, BEWS, BEAS and elemental crystals. More rewards would further damage the (already weak) economy where 95% of the materials and items can be sold only to NPCs.
mate at least when making a pole put more option than i hate and i like but had probs and i just dont care. as mentioned there was no answer: i liked it was good or so.
As for the event i did like it. i sold no piece and i bought none yet i made some trans scrolls, some attri stones and crys and a bewa.
The drop rate's was good during 'happy hours' as a friend said, but the event was just plain boring. think I had roughly 5-6 scrolls that I dident use because I just thought it was extremly dull.
Why no option "I liked it" without the drop rate comment? No vote from me in this case.
dont like events whitch working for farmers,not for players
dont like events whitch working for farmers,not for players

I liked it made 4 BEWS,SB vail master and random transform scrools and cryt/stones.

during prime time the drop rate did go up.
The event was good, but I have seen some cheaters on the fantasy island:
The logged off immediately after opening a chest and taking the drop. Then then logged in again and opened another - skipping the skill reuse counter this way and extending the duration of the transformation.


Where is there anything listed that logging off your character is cheating? Lol you seem bitter that you either can't box a second toon to scout for your transformed toon or that you weren't clever enough to do it yourself.
The event was good, but I have seen some cheaters on the fantasy island:
The logged off immediately after opening a chest and taking the drop. Then then logged in again and opened another - skipping the skill reuse counter this way and extending the duration of the transformation.
Could you either save the countdown counter and continue the countdown on logon or make the transformation disappear on log off?

The rewads were ok for me - some transformation sealbooks, BEWS, BEAS and elemental crystals. More rewards would further damage the (already weak) economy where 95% of the materials and items can be sold only to NPCs.

logging off waiting for the reuse isnt cheating. i used 2 characters, one in transformation and 1 not in fransform. once i found a chest i would open it, and log out once out of combat, then find another chest "numb, rattle" thing on the non transformed char and then logged in to get that one, rinse and repeat.

the cheaters are the people without 2 characters logging in, going directly to an invisible box due to a special in game map, and opening it and force logging off to save even more time.


edit: ill bet this is the same person who cam into the spot we were doing the event in, trying to take our boxes and reporting us as cheaters. lawl
Give us a reason to play with each other by an organized raid event.

With raids spawning all over the map and in all time zones in specific hours.
For example for a 2 hour time with 4 hours break through the day...
Raids should be low or 80+ and it would be a pretty good event like it was in the past.
Also there should be a place that raids spawn all time so ppl go there and pvp for them!

All other farm events are just boring and have meaning to those who bot or to those who farm mobs all the time.
Give us a reason to play with each other by an organized raid event.

With raids spawning all over the map and in all time zones in specific hours.
For example for a 2 hour time with 4 hours break through the day...
Raids should be low or 80+ and it would be a pretty good event like it was in the past.
Also there should be a place that raids spawn all time so ppl go there and pvp for them!

All other farm events are just boring and have meaning to those who bot or to those who farm mobs all the time.

This wont be fair for people who are solo or cant play when a lot of people on.
The event was good, but I have seen some cheaters on the fantasy island:
The logged off immediately after opening a chest and taking the drop. Then then logged in again and opened another - skipping the skill reuse counter this way and extending the duration of the transformation.
Could you either save the countdown counter and continue the countdown on logon or make the transformation disappear on log off?

I never saw this but, normally cooldown is saved though they might haven't done the same for the hunter skill. ><
Tips for the gatherers in case this event ever returns:

1. Have a "spy" char looking for the chests (either someone else spawning them, or uttering words like "*rattle*"); log in the gatherer when you see it, run to there, gather.

2. After gathering, log in the same account on a different client. This "force-log-outs" your character without having to wait for the "combat mode" timer to run out, saving your time.

3. Create a ton of trial accounts to gather. Those don't pick up, just looks for chests. Your "spy" char picks up the TSPs.
I was using 2 scouts and 2 transformed pickers to maximize my time. Using 2 scouts gives you a wider area to observe and 2 scouts makes you waste only 1/3 of the summoned box grps and also doubles your rewards for the time spent. I would have been using 3 pickers but seemed like too much work.
The event was good, but I have seen some cheaters on the fantasy island:
The logged off immediately after opening a chest and taking the drop. Then then logged in again and opened another - skipping the skill reuse counter this way and extending the duration of the transformation.
Could you either save the countdown counter and continue the countdown on logon or make the transformation disappear on log off?

The rewads were ok for me - some transformation sealbooks, BEWS, BEAS and elemental crystals. More rewards would further damage the (already weak) economy where 95% of the materials and items can be sold only to NPCs.


How is it cheating to log off to wait for the reuse to end? Cheating would be if you had to alter the files to do it.
why there is a no comment choice?? lol how pointles...

making a poll and putting a no coment choice in it... briliant!

on the topic ...i didn't like the event at all
I'm also wondering about the lack of "I liked it, drops were fine". I got a decent amount of tsp from hunting. I also did the log out on a couple toons to limit cooldown. With an alt spotter I managed to get around 90 per transform scroll without forcelogging.

I did wonder if people were using programs like the ones that let you see toons in hide. It didn't really affect me tho since I found it relatively easy to find boxes that rattled.

The only negative I can say is that this was a solo farm event. Partying was not the best way to get event items. The tiger event was a great event in that respect. It was the first time in years I partied with randoms. It was also funny to find those who had their bots on weird settings fading in and out and hitting everything that spawned.

The raid boss event was fun from years back. The downside there was big bully clans trying to lock down spawns. Id be interested in seeing this event again tho especially with the new pk rules that make it harder to wash off karma. We might see a few more boss jewels in circulation lol.
To be honest, drop rate of the items should not be dictated by the time of day. Doing 150/hour during 4PM to 12AM, and then having it drop to 20/hour isn't cool especially for those who do clan raids or oly during peak event times.
I enjoyed the event,the thing i dont like on such events is event items drop rate on party hunting areas,its ridicilous and forces players to solo hunt for the period of event.I got a bunch of transf scrolls,(i dont know where to use them)many stones,some really silly blessed ewd and blessed eac (rofl),2 transf sealbooks.I know the first-second prices are only for the seek to exist in the events page(like in games how to become a milionaire heheheh),so i was not disapointed from stones rewards.I saw them as an add to dailys drops from xp.

I liked the fantasy island transf,didnt like the reuse time of skills,i 've prefered to change it next time.Being a small happy elp running around toy-houses was very childish and relaxing,i would prefer not to spoil this mood by log in-out for reuse.
Event was good. I cant vote because there was no option to vote for "Good"
i thought the drop rate was more than adequate.
although it must have had some sort of quota limit...
first day in Sel mahum, i got many, the first hour, but second hour was dismal, 40 minutes with 0 drops.

last day, i was getting much higher drop rate.
overall, i ended with well over a thousand, which is more than usual for event items for me.
well , i did all my scrolls on the same spot, so after a time you can work out exactly where all the spawns are, so you don`t have to wait to see *bump* or *rattle*, which makes the scroll take way less time!

and for drops i received lot's of stones, two beas, two bews, one veil master sealbook and anakim sealbook too ! so great event imo ! :)
The event was ok, just the rate at FI was bad. Worst was like 40 TSP in this 10 min lol.

Would like to see a event where mobs dont drop items. Give ppl longer transform, and let simply spawn more chest at FI. Also the different drop rates during the day kinda sucked.
Event was lame, like the old elpy version. Rewards were totally random, so was droprate on normal mobs. One hour u get 10, next hour same spot same continues grind u get 30. I just kept on selling my TSP for some shot financing. Tried my luck 3 times and all were rubbish. Best I got was BEWD, rather had BEAD.

Would really like to see the return of the Golem 'raid' event, Medal event and the 'Lineage II'-word event (7th Anniversary cloacks! Like they had in Korea recently)
The event was good, but I have seen some cheaters on the fantasy island:
The logged off immediately after opening a chest and taking the drop. Then then logged in again and opened another - skipping the skill reuse counter this way and extending the duration of the transformation.
Could you either save the countdown counter and continue the countdown on logon or make the transformation disappear on log off?

The rewads were ok for me - some transformation sealbooks, BEWS, BEAS and elemental crystals. More rewards would further damage the (already weak) economy where 95% of the materials and items can be sold only to NPCs.

Log off in transformed state is not a cheat. Its just event weak side (like many others).
Ofc, will be better, if Treasure Hunter Hammer Punch skill save the countdown counter when relog, but have 20min or better drop rate TSP, because it was realy bad for many non NA players.
For those ppl, who saw someone transformed going directly to chest without *bump*: - yes, maybe some1 using programs for that, idk, but for example, I just remember spawn spots from Bunny Money event, spawn spots was not changed! - its another weak side of event.
How this event could be perfect in my eyes? When I just run across FI in transformed state, looking for *bump* and chests with firework which DROP MORE TSP then usual one, and have chance to drop complete TS and maybe even something like mid/top S84 weapon. When I done with scrolls, I go to xp with friends and mobs drop NORMAL amount of TSP for ALL timezones. And disable d@mned trials during next such event! ;)

-I like it, but event could be much more better. Here we have all problems Bunny Monney event + some new one, but Bunny Monney event was a much more better, because 6th and 5th was very useful for ppl during years after, and 6th, 5th from this event (I think 80% of all ppl, not farmers or buyers, get 6th and 5th, maybe 4th TS) give u BEWD or BEAD :D Btw, BEAD called BEAC.
And how in future differs still useful 5th sack from Bunny Money event (milk some nerfed it, but anyway) from crappy one from this event? Same image, same name.
that was a point of not including

"Yes, I liked it and drop was awesome!"

so you guys can write it here

i dont really care how many of you will say OP fail cause he didn't include

"Yes, I liked the event and drop was gggoooddd"

jeee...

flame me more plz
im beggin
/target Kirill
/facepalm
/qq
i only used the log off trick when i was in final count down.
mainly because...
i had 18 scrolls to use... no way i was going to extend that to be 5 hours long...
also, logging out works best if you have a spotter box.
and since i don't, it doesn't work efficiently.
why there is a no comment choice?? lol how pointles...

making a poll and putting a no coment choice in it... briliant!

on the topic ...i didn't like the event at all

Because he is interested in if you don't want to comment
I don't like being forced into the 'higher drop rate' category.

-1 for poll options
This wont be fair for people who are solo or cant play when a lot of people on.

What is happening is unfair too.
For example for ppl like me who enjoy the game playing with others farming mob events are unfair, mostly because low lvl soloers can get more event items. Fact is im bored even to pick up items so there should be a different incentive for me to play at events.
The event was good, but I have seen some cheaters on the fantasy island:
The logged off immediately after opening a chest and taking the drop. Then then logged in again and opened another - skipping the skill reuse counter this way and extending the duration of the transformation.
Could you either save the countdown counter and continue the countdown on logon or make the transformation disappear on log off?



To be honest, that's what I did on a couple of occasions, when I had the time to spare.
It wasn't in the rules that you couldn't do it, so it's not cheating. Open a chest, wait for the in-combat stance to go and logout for about 40 seconds and log back in. Increased my drop quantity from 20 to about 35. I still of course got mainly 5th and 6th place sacks.
I spent about 20m buying pieces from other players in the first couple of days for about 140k each, but did get a blessed weapon S from that, and it successfully +'d my weapon.
lol i just used to go and farm 2 moretimes and i usualyt do , and i went to sel mahum farming 24/7 at this event i did 8k q itens/day , and about 1000 sacks/day , got alot of adena :D
logging off waiting for the reuse isnt cheating. i used 2 characters, one in transformation and 1 not in fransform. once i found a chest i would open it, and log out once out of combat, then find another chest "numb, rattle" thing on the non transformed char and then logged in to get that one, rinse and repeat.

the cheaters are the people without 2 characters logging in, going directly to an invisible box due to a special in game map, and opening it and force logging off to save even more time.


edit: ill bet this is the same person who cam into the spot we were doing the event in, trying to take our boxes and reporting us as cheaters. lawl

So you'd lose your bet.
No, it is not the same person. LOL. I never report anyone - except for spam mail bots.
Maybe it was 'exploit' not a 'cheat'. And I didn't have any comment ingame towards those people using it - they just used the possiblity given to them by NCsoft.
I didn't have time to do the same + I found it much easier to get the extra treasure pieces from the market than with the log off/on. And yes, I can have 2 characters online, even not boxed, since the 2nd one has its own computer.
My post has not been meant against the people who used this cheat or exploit. It has been rather a suggestion for fixing it for the next copy+paste event :)
lol i just used to go and farm 2 moretimes and i usualyt do , and i went to sel mahum farming 24/7 at this event i did 8k q itens/day , and about 1000 sacks/day , got alot of adena

24/7? bot! /report iAmKoto :D

So you'd lose your bet.
No, it is not the same person. LOL. I never report anyone - except for spam mail bots.
Maybe it was 'exploit' not a 'cheat'. And I didn't have any comment ingame towards those people using it - they just used the possiblity given to them by NCsoft.
I didn't have time to do the same + I found it much easier to get the extra treasure pieces from the market than with the log off/on. And yes, I can have 2 characters online, even not boxed, since the 2nd one has its own computer.
My post has not been meant against the people who used this cheat or exploit. It has been rather a suggestion for fixing it for the next copy+paste event :)

Doing relogs is anoying during this event. But some ppl spend alot time to get addition 35-55% TSP. If you lazy, its not mean all others are cheaters, or they use 'exploit' ;) And its wasn't "copy+paste event". Not brand new, but event with brand new reward. :)
I didn't like it at all.
was a fun event , even if the treasure sacks i got sucked ( i'm really starting to think this game just hates me ) anyhow from memory what i got: around 50+ transformation scrolls , 5ish stones , 3 bewd , 2 bugged bead ( name is beaC , but only works on D grade )

Only thing i didnt like was the metagame that was needed to maximise your TSP per scroll.

also , not voting cause there is no "i liek!" option or anything like that , results are screwed since that was not there from the beginning.
The logged off immediately after opening a chest and taking the drop. Then then logged in again and opened another - skipping the skill reuse counter this way and extending the duration of the transformation.
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Its not cheating since nothing that the game mechanics don't allow was used.
The game allows skills to cooldown while logged off and, as long as you are out of combat, you can log out. It's called playing smart.

You think it was "unfair"? Then why didn't you do it too? That way you would have been even with everyone else and it wouldn't have been unfair for you anymore.
Worst poll options ever...

For me the event was ok.. as usual I do not do what I wanted do - sell the event items to make a lot of adena.

So I have a bunch of temp scrolls and some crystals.

The one thing would be to not allow trail accounts to be active, but even then. mehhh.
It was ok I liked the adena I made off it the most lol
ok used my last 5 scrolls and decided to turn it in.. got fake BEAC and some onyx transformation scrolls. lol

Well atleast I got 1 holy crystal ><
The drop is kind of low during the day time, but it was pretty amazing during 1am to 3am EST every night.
:rolleyes:

This is what is always very stupid about their events.

Event drop rates should be an even rate 24/7 thru all of the event to make it even for the different play times of all players.
The drop is kind of low during the day time, but it was pretty amazing during 1am to 3am EST every night.

Could easily get over 130+ in an hour

:eek:

similar experience? or is it just me?

:rolleyes:

yeap agree but no love at all for EU ppls :( only love for USA ppls . USA players can gain 3 times what an EU player can do.

And we pay the same fee . NC fair play :D
Its not cheating since nothing that the game mechanics don't allow was used.
The game allows skills to cooldown while logged off and, as long as you are out of combat, you can log out. It's called playing smart.

You think it was "unfair"? Then why didn't you do it too? That way you would have been even with everyone else and it wouldn't have been unfair for you anymore.

+1
<poor luck 4000 sack pieces later, nothing worth any adena.
tiger seal book.
some element crystals... 3 or 4
some element stones 5 or 6
and a boat load of transforms.
although i did have fun using these transforms for hunting, so at least it's entertainment value.

3 2d sacks, EAA, EAS, EWA... 3 scrolls anakim/zaken.
adena if sold sack peices directly? 300 mil give or take...
value of result... maybe 100 mil if sold.

this event has ended the way all events end for me.
i'm actually Down adena from when it started:)
i didnt like it, too much random running at fantasy island for some worthless scrolls (minus the few lucky people). I prefer events where we have to farm items by xp'ing or by killing random hard monsters that spawn (old raid boss event anyone?).

before ppl say they hate grind based events due to bots, this event catered to program users more than any grind X number of event items.


edit: also the korean random is lol, 2000 treasure pieces for a bunch of 6th and 5th place sacks, only to get 1 2nd place sack (that was the highest). waste of time imo, why spend all my time in game there doing that to get blessed C and D grade enchants, compeltely worthless.

u know they dropt off mobs right?
i 1/2 ***** the treasure hunter transform for the most part i only really went at it hard teh 1st couple of days. i got 90% of my sack parts aoeing and got a fair bit of alright stuff.
yeap agree but no love at all for EU ppls :( only love for USA ppls . USA players can gain 3 times what an EU player can do.

And we pay the same fee . NC fair play :D

your on the wrong server maybe?
I liked it, however, because of some problems I had only a limited participation.
In our clan the guy who held CL position while i was ill dropped an Anakim sealbook that was donated to the clan and as such I can say we also had good drops.
A few considerations:
1. Logging out once out of combat to spare cd time I dont consider cheating even tho some ppl in the clan said it is. However, forced logout while in combat mode borders cheating at best. The reason is that cooldown time is supposed to go on while logged out, but a char in combat mode is not supposed to be able to logout (even with some delay).
2. It was a somewhat ballanced event, where drops from mobs to afk 24/7 bots, were partially balanced by TI hunting, but there too, bots had an advantage, however, not so big. This was worse than the tiger event, but slightly better than the regular bot-oriented full drop-based events.
3. There were money to be made from pieces too. While we fully equip newbies some made enough money not to need clan help for some time. As usual, correctly anticipating the market also made some nice money to the traders.
4. I consider droplists fair for once, even the lowest sacs were still giving at least a possibility for a stone. TSP prices reflected that, they were high enough.
5. Best way was to collect scrolls as often as possible during the first week and use during the second in order to maximise hunt time. Also, going to a place all the time where you knew the spawn areas, helped somewhat.
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