so my roommate wakes me up this morning, and tells that comcast is now limiting its bandwidth per line to 250 gbs per month. comcast believes this is more than most normal users will ever need.
my roommate then asked if i download a lot using torrent programs, which i don't, occasionally, but not excesively...
he then said that by running L2, i am eating 85 gbs per month, and asked if i leave it running over night... then told me to turn it off each night.
i responded, that i was trying to sell things over night, so i think he understands the need...
but then he went onto the topic of the fact that we have netflix...
which eats up a large chunk of data per month.
anyway... i was just wondering if anyone else uses Comcast, and if you have had any similar problems?
i mean if i really use that much just from Vent and L2, i can only imagine what it would be like for multiple account users.
so my roommate wakes me up this morning, and tells that comcast is now limiting its bandwidth per line to 250 gbs per month. comcast believes this is more than most normal users will ever need.
my roommate then asked if i download a lot using torrent programs, which i don't, occasionally, but not excesively...
he then said that by running L2, i am eating 85 gbs per month, and asked if i leave it running over night... then told me to turn it off each night.
i responded, that i was trying to sell things over night, so i think he understands the need...
but then he went onto the topic of the fact that we have netflix...
which eats up a large chunk of data per month.
anyway... i was just wondering if anyone else uses Comcast, and if you have had any similar problems?
i mean if i really use that much just from Vent and L2, i can only imagine what it would be like for multiple account users.
Look at the date they had this from oct 2008 and now almost 3 years later your friend just noticed it. Since it has not been a problem for 3 years I am sure l2 is not taking to much data.
telling you that l2 uses 85gb of data per months is LOL
even if you had 9 clients open all actively doing something you couldn't use that much up.
In sell shop, the actual amount of data being transferred is much lower then if you were actively doing something... commands and information being load and downloaded and uploaded is significantly less.
But even if we say maxed out the allowable download rate ncsoft and imposed which if i recall the code right.. is either 25-35Kb/s average both on download and upload.... that's pretty **** small.. and you'd never use all that up unless your first time porting into giran or during seiges...
i'd say if you were MAXING out your single client's download and upload non-stop for 24 hours a day.... for 31 days straight... you MIGHT reach 10GB of total bandwidth used.... but i doubt it.
BTW using vent chews up more bandwidth then lineage II does
Comcast has trouble tracking torrents in the bandwidth as well. It is completely netflix (e.g., said I used 12GB of bandwidth for the month when I downloaded 100+ gigs worth of stuff on torrents), and nothing else.
Yeah torrents will eat bandwidth like nothing... even when your not even seeding or downloading.. there is activity although minor..
Netflix will chew up bandwidth quick... specially if you decide to watch the 720 or better Content..... that's not a small file either.
Actually one of my customers complained about not being able to watch their netflix movies.... stuttering and having to wait for ages..... unfortunately people don't comprehend the bandwidth limitations and how much they actually need... they could watch standard resolution netflix.. but they couldn't watch 720p without letting it buffer for ages.
problem is we are now in the information age, the normal fiberoptic cables orginally put in 10 years ago where not put in to handle this much bandwith from so many people at one time.
There is new cables out that many countries like Japan, Europe, and Korea have but the cable companies do not to want to redo the wiring system that is only 10 years old since their coaxial cable lasted them 30 years they figure they should get at least 30 years out of fiberoptic cables placed 10 years ago.
Sad fact is no one is really noticing but the speed of techonology is speeding up every year so we are advancing quicker then some companies care to advance their hardware.
The theory is called the theory of allecerating change and end with technological singularity. When there is no line between human and machine no longer. Also see moore's law.
So in the end we all will get our usage of the internet cut significantly if these companies do not decide to upgrade their cables soon.
problem is we are now in the information age, the normal fiberoptic cables orginally put in 10 years ago where not put in to handle this much bandwith from so many people at one time.
There is new cables out that many countries like Japan, Europe, and Korea have but the cable companies do not to want to redo the wiring system that is only 10 years old since their coaxial cable lasted them 30 years they figure they should get at least 30 years out of fiberoptic cables placed 10 years ago.
Sad fact is no one is really noticing but the speed of techonology is speeding up every year so we are advancing quicker then some companies care to advance their hardware.
The theory is called the theory of allecerating change and end with technological singularity. When there is no line between human and machine no longer. Also see moore's law.
So in the end we all will get our usage of the internet cut significantly if these companies do not decide to upgrade their cables soon.
what?
Orginal Fiber pipes are more then optimal.... most of the United states isn't actually covered in optical pipelines.. quite a lot of it is copper connections yet.... of course all the backbones are optical.. but this stuff doesn't age like that...
For example.. Saskatchewan (Sasktel the company) was the first in the world to use a hybrid fiber/coax system.. they were the first to put their fiber lines underground and string them for miles in all direction.
These same fiber connections are in use today.. and have more then enough bandwidth to keep up, hell they are barely being used as is right now.
Now with advancing optical technologies which are designed to work with excisting optical technologies (aka, using the same type of fiber dimension and such as well as working with excisting repeaters)... they are able to more then times the possible bandwidth by huge factors.... for example, using different frequencies of light simultaniously. Right now there is a few companies utilizing a 10 frequency system that actually provides 10 seperate connections using the same fiber optic line itself. Because of the sheer number of various frequencies of light and more precise technology that would be able to better identify among them, the number of individual optical connection that could be made through a single fiber line is unfathomable almost.
Now what most of these companies do not want to do is actually put in more fiber lines, they don't want to upgrade their failing routers and interconnections, they don't want to pay for the expensive fiber routers and switches... The united states own network is crumbling quickly...
It's unfortunate.. but it is the case.
However putting limits on total bandwidth used is absurd.... these guys still have plenty of bandwidth left.... they just don't want to let it continue because at the current rate.... user usage will exceed their own growth to accomidate.
Meanwhile some of these companies are pouring tons of money into increase the speeds in specific locations... while screwing others....
As a side note, I've heard of numerous folks going over the "hard" cap* and not hearing a word from Comcast (myself included, multiple months in a row). Definitely not anything to actively worry about unless you're way over.
*As opposed to the vague "soft cap" they had a number of years back now.
that makes more sense judas I was under the impersion it was the lines by where I live they are all fiberoptic (outside NYC) but further away you get probably less true it is.
well im on shaw here in alberta, using cable, i have 4 accts, use em all lots, sometimes overnight, and my average bandwith usage is in the 75-85 gb/month.
this includes my daughter using youtube tons (like 4-6hrs a day lol) and my brither playing WOW and surfing as well.
my guess is that my 4 accts are in the 50 gb permonth range.
problem is we are now in the information age, the normal fiberoptic cables orginally put in 10 years ago where not put in to handle this much bandwith from so many people at one time.
The optic cables are fine. It's the equipment at their ends what was not designed to handle much more bandwidth than the coaxial cable network does.
well im on shaw here in alberta, using cable, i have 4 accts, use em all lots, sometimes overnight, and my average bandwith usage is in the 75-85 gb/month.
this includes my daughter using youtube tons (like 4-6hrs a day lol) and my brither playing WOW and surfing as well.
my guess is that my 4 accts are in the 50 gb permonth range.
Watching 10 Youtube videos of 10 minutes each at 720p generally will work out to about 1gb of data downloaded.. (100mb per video)
FYI, anyone that browses or even uses playlists on youtube will suck up bandwidth quite fast.... even if they are only music (many people use youtube playlists for their music radio solution)..... though music videos average out to about 10mb give ot take.. so 10 of them is 100mb.. 100 is 1gb..
Lets not also forget the updates and other downloads..
I still say that a single Lineage II account running 24/7 at PEAK download/upload rates wouldn't break the 10GB barrier.
im just putting in my own data into the mix is all :) since i dont have a l2 exclusive dataline, (and i highly doubt ne one else does ) i guess we will never know lol
ok here it's is stupidity, im only using this computer for l2 and bandwith use for a month about 3-5 hour l2 /day is about 5GB including update each maintenance... so you will never get 85 GB... BTW i use 2 l2 always so 5 GB is for 2 lineage2 running 3-5 hour /month So it's about 33-55 MB / hour or l2 for 2 lineage 2 open, 16-27 mb for one lineage2 open /hour depending on what you do and where you are (shop/grinding) BTW shop in giran use around 22mb/hour
From my expirience, 1 L2 client eats not more then 70Mb/per day, 8hr active play, rest giran shop. So it's not more then 2Gb/month. If you have 2 L2 accounts running 24/7, not more 4Gb/month.
Vent, Netflix etc consume more traffic. But anyway, L2 +vent - not that much. But there can be some kind of viruses, also. They just overflow traffic with useless packets.
after reducing all the activity... we still managed to take 10 gigs...
so i'm thinking someone is hijacking our cable connection...
lucky, comcast has been nice enough to credit us 100 gigs for the remainder of march, so no rationing needed...
still, gotta figure out where that 10 gig per day is coming from.
did comcast honestly contact you about the usage limitations with your internet? or are you still trying to force the bandwith limitation based off the 3 year old document you linked us?
i find it highly unlikely that comcast would contact you unless you are downloading multiple terabytes per month (2 or 3+), which would be along the lines of someone who is illegally downloading copyrighted material (movies, games, etc.).
did comcast honestly contact you about the usage limitations with your internet? or are you still trying to force the bandwith limitation based off the 3 year old document you linked us?
i find it highly unlikely that comcast would contact you unless you are downloading multiple terabytes per month (2 or 3+), which would be along the lines of someone who is illegally downloading copyrighted material (movies, games, etc.).
They probably send out an automated email when your bandwidth usage is near the cap as their policy states.
If you are using a wireless router setup the security settings to restrict it to user specified mac addresses. End of people stealing your internets (less mac spoofing).
They probably send out an automated email when your bandwidth usage is near the cap as their policy states.
If you are using a wireless router setup the security settings to restrict it to user specified mac addresses. End of people stealing your internets (less mac spoofing).
i have had comcast for around 4 years now and have also downloaded well over 1 terabyte in a month multiple times and never received any notice.
however, i have a friend who received a piracy notice form comcast once he passed the 3 terabyte mark in 1 month.
this is why im asking. the policy notice is 3 years old and has never been enforced to my knowledge nor have i heard any of my RL friends having issues outside of the one i mentioned above. In central IL, comcast is the only option for internet, so everyone uses them. i just find it hard to beleive after dealing with them for 4+ years that the OP is being hassled for going over 100meg of bandwith usage.
albuquerque NM having that same issue as fidget. limited to 250gb as it is right now at 410gb for the month and a big chunk is netflix. but from what i was told from comcast is they are going off a 08 report and estimating the average household is only using 4 gigs a month. which i call shinannigans on. so right now theres so much lag its crazy.
but wheather or not its the downloads/uploads with the torrent or whichever its a definate issue.
my first taste of this was playing off my laptop using my cell phone as a modem. tmobile limits to something stupid at 5 gigs and then your down to 56k speeds instead of the blazing 3 and 4g which i dont get since they have phones that can provide internet to i think 8 devices now. whats the point if your gonna be limited.
as it is comcast is a pain with how much they charge and if you've ever had an issue with them its like banging your head on the wall... i feel your pain fidgit