Level 80 Gift

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Hi everyone,

We have some fun things coming later this month, and as part of that, all characters that are level 80 or above by April 25, 2011 will be rewarded with a special gift.

Don't worry, we'll give you some XP-help before the deadline. I can't say anything more about it now, though. ;)

Updates with answers to questions throughout this thread:


This small forum announcement was made as a heads-up to you hardcore players that play on a regular basis. As the big announcement goes out to everyone else later this month, you folks are being given an advantage by knowing about it early.
The gift is the same item for everyone that qualifies. There will not be anything "random" about it.
The gift is not one-per-account. It is one-per-level-80-character! :) The game account can be active or inactive-- no worries about that.
The XP-help we will give you later this month and before the deadline will be help, not a guarantee that your character will be level 80 by April 25. We will post more information about the XP-help in the week of April 18-22.
To qualify for the gift, you main class or your subclass needs to be level 80. :) So as long as one of your classes is level 80, no worries if it's the main class or a sub. Also, it is okay for you to be playing on a lower-than-80 sub on April 25.
The check for who-is-level-80 will occur at 12pm PDT (http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=Level+80+Gift+Deadline&iso=20110425T12&p1=234) on April 25, 2011. Click the link for more timezones of this deadline.
Preparing for this deadline is your decision, it is entirely optional. You will be informed as to what the gift is sometime in the week of April 18-22.
Don't worry if you think you won't get this gift, there will be lots of other gifts and activities for everyone later this month.
We are encouraging players to reach level 80 (by giving incentive) because future game updates will mostly be content for high levels. The encouragement does not mean that future updates won't include anything for lower levels.
vorpal for everyone?
adena plz
Anniversary cloaks imo :D
i want vorpal jum!
Magic carpets??!??!?!??!?
Anakim transform sealbooks for everybody.
Hi everyone,

We have some fun things coming later this month, and as part of that, all characters that are level 80 or above by April 25, 2011 will be rewarded with a special gift.

Don't worry, we'll give you some XP-help before the deadline. I can't say anything more about it now, though. ;)

How about bonus if we hit 85 by then? ^^

Can we triple it if our subs are 80/80/80 by then? :D j/k
why u make announcement if u dont wanna give details?
why u make announcement if u dont wanna give details?

Teaser
•an advertisement that offers something free in order to arouse customers' interest
1. vorpal for everyone , 2. delete anakim tranf
Ooh ooh ooh I know! A spring event that favors playing mains who are 80+.

Call it the "elpy egg hunt" and have Noble stones and S gems have a decent chance to drop off of every mob 80+ :-)
Ooh ooh ooh I know! A spring event that favors playing mains who are 80+.

Call it the "elpy egg hunt" and have Noble stones and S gems have a decent chance to drop off of every mob 80+ :-)

how long it will take me to get 400 Sgems then?)))
guess 1: hat

guess 2: stupid shadow item that gives Vit and ranges from 1 use to 30, based on luck.

guess 3: Agation

the most unlikley guess 4: a cool mount?
I will like a cool hat that gives me +20 Facha
and an amazing cloak that gives me another +20 Facha
that way I will max out the Facha stat of my dorf
Wooot!? *XPs Xps Xps* :eek:
Next time give us a SPOIL alert before bursting the surprise!!!

Sorry, I didn't mean to spoil it even if it's true !


And btw a suggestion : if it's a item used only for 80+ players, why not giving one by account so lower level will have an other goal to be 80 ? :)
2x exp weekend? oO
I will like a cool hat that gives me +20 Facha
and an amazing cloak that gives me another +20 Facha
that way I will max out the Facha stat of my dorf


I want Facha too!
A beautiful Shilen cloak :)
I want a beetle tank!
why u make announcement if u dont wanna give details?

We wanted to give regular players as much warning as possible so they can reach the level limit in time. More details for other anniversary celebrations will be announced later.

-Moxie
Ok, so could my girlfriend try to up from 56 to 80 until 25th ? :D
Moxie / Sace i would like to have your feedback into this:
atm my main is already lvl 80, but two days ago i aquired the service to change my sub (lvl 75) to main, and i also belive that my order will be take effect after tomorrow maintance 04/06... so i will receive the gift in the end of the month anyway since i have already at last that sub lvl 80? or will be necessary exp the this "new main" into 80? :confused:

Ps:. sorry for my bad english, this is also my first post here :p
Moxie / Sace i would like to have your feedback into this:
atm my main is already lvl 80, but two days ago i aquired the service to change my sub (lvl 75) to main, and i also belive that my order will be take effect after tomorrow maintance 04/06... so i will receive the gift in the end of the month anyway since i have already at last that sub lvl 80? or will be necessary exp the this "new main" into 80? :confused:

Ps:. sorry for my bad english, this is also my first post here :p

On April 25, we will be checking the level of each character's main class, not subs. You can decide how to prepare for that date.
I thought it was required that to change sub to main.. you SUB HAD to be same or higher lvl then your main.....

*to laze to check that again*
On April 25, we will be checking the level of each character's main class, not subs. You can decide how to prepare for that date.

ty for this fast clarification, but is not like i really had a choice, since the service was already ordered :p

I thought it was required that to change sub to main.. you SUB HAD to be same or higher lvl then your main.....

your sub must be at last lvl 75 and your main can't be more than lvl 80 also.
On April 25, we will be checking the level of each character's main class, not subs. You can decide how to prepare for that date.


will u give 1 char per account? or if in account there 2 80+ char both will receive ? or only 1 char? will that gift be tradeable?
will u give 1 char per account? or if in account there 2 80+ char both will receive ? or only 1 char? will that gift be tradeable?

Every character that is 80+.

Further details will be released later this month.
I want a rideable kangaroo to jump around!
a magical gift of... Stripping all gear, quests, and levels back to level 1...
enjoy the added content of going from 1-80+ all over again.
a magical gift of... Stripping all gear, quests, and levels back to level 1...
enjoy the added content of going from 1-80+ all over again.

That would be awesome!
Really it is impossible to imagine all cry af all ppl :)
To make it even more magical, special edition for 85+ ... 2 weeks of 'trial like status' :p

Not that I want try again... but to see forum after such gift .. I think would be worth to try.
It could be called:
25th of April, Day of Destruction


PS As I have sub 79 so at least I could switch sub to main :)
Hi everyone,

We have some fun things coming later this month, and as part of that, all characters that are level 80 or above by April 25, 2011 will be rewarded with a special gift.


And what if someone has been an active player since the beginning, yet still hasn't reached level 80, and still is far from it? What about those dedicated warsmiths who's been too busy crafting stuff to get past level 70? Don't they deserve a gift?
This game is not all about leveling, after all.
Anniversary cloaks imo :D
.... which are 'grade-less' according to korean powerwiki (http://power.plaync.co.kr/lineage2/%EB%A7%9D%ED%86%A0) :eek:

that would mean there is no real reason for limiting that gift to lvl80+ ppl (if it's really the gift we'll get :rolleyes:)
I think that it'd be more fair if it was for ppl who were 70+ or at least 76+. :rolleyes:
i agree with the dwarf, adena plz!

I think that it'd be more fair if it was for ppl who were 70+ or at least 76+. :rolleyes:

Wouldn't that mean that (almost) everyone would get a gift? :P
and what if someone has been an active player since the beginning, yet still hasn't reached level 80, and still is far from it? What about those dedicated warsmiths who's been too busy crafting stuff to get past level 70? Don't they deserve a gift?
This game is not all about leveling, after all.

rofl.
Wouldn't that mean that (almost) everyone would get a gift? :P

Why not? :D
Please don't give the same to everyone.
I suggest a god-box which if oppened it can give something out of 100+ items.
We wanted to give regular players as much warning as possible so they can reach the level limit in time. More details for other anniversary celebrations will be announced later.

-Moxie

So long time players don't count?!?
Why the level and not the play time??
and if you have the time, and not the level, why not put it into warehouse to spur these peeps on.

Not quite right I be thinking!
guys just analize the facts:
- gift for 80+ characters
- somekind of "help" with reaching the 80 lv cap

so conclusion is simple, its another way of saying GoD is commin, rush to 85 ASAP :D
Every character that is 80+.

Further details will be released later this month.

does the account that has the lvl 80+ toon on it have to be active at april 25th?
Even is ~3 weeks to 1 month away right? So honestly what are the reasons for holding information back? I mean come on!
We wanted to give regular players as much warning as possible so they can reach the level limit in time. More details for other anniversary celebrations will be announced later.

-Moxie

Why use the term "regular players"? Are you inferring that players with level 1-79 characters are regular (normal?), and players with level 80 characters are..."irregular"?

You mention "other" anniversary celebrations. Does this mean that Sace's announcement of a "Level 80 Gift" is just the first of many?
Is there a gift for under lvl80 people.......Like a boost to lvl80?

It took me more then 7 years to get to lvl77, there is no way is hell I'm getting those 3 levels in less then a month.

And yes, I still have fun playing the game even if I do level slowly.
Hi everyone,

We have some fun things coming later this month, and as part of that, all characters that are level 80 or above by April 25, 2011 will be rewarded with a special gift.

Don't worry, we'll give you some XP-help before the deadline. I can't say anything more about it now, though. ;)

Thank you Sace that was a nice surprise! We are looking forward to it!

Sincerely
1st part of the surprise is: 2x XP Weekend
2nd part of the Surprise: Gift

Personally.. I would love to have Veteran Rewards like in AION. :P
Well darn I just started the game yesterday so I don't think I will be even close to qualifying for this gift :p. I am still interested to see what it could be!
And what if someone has been an active player since the beginning, yet still hasn't reached level 80, and still is far from it? What about those dedicated warsmiths who's been too busy crafting stuff to get past level 70? Don't they deserve a gift?
This game is not all about leveling, after all.

You are not very active if you don't have level 80 after the 4 years you have been playing. I have two boxes over 80 and 18 other characters all A-Grade in that same time. You are not focused on the right goals and need to re-evaluate and use the next few weeks to break through that casual player barrier!

P.S. Even my subs are over 70.
yeah i'm for vetran awards.... someone that has had a toon for 5 or 6 or 7 years...
You are not very active if you don't have level 80 after the 4 years you have been playing. I have two boxes over 80 and 18 other characters all A-Grade in that same time. You are not focused on the right goals and need to re-evaluate and use the next few weeks to break through that casual player barrier!

P.S. Even my subs are over 70.

Focusing on the right goals?


you've got quite the balls to tell someone they aren't playing the game for the right reasons by saying that....

Your play style has no place in suggesting anyone else is clearly doing it wrong...

If someone enjoys playing the game in the manner they are..... where lvls do not count.. which in their way... obviously doesn't... then so be it... so long as they are enjoying whatever they are doing.
i really think this should be for older players or just for everyone.

i just hit level 80 a week or 2 ago , yet my character birthdate is 9/4/2004 ( funny how wikipedia says that us launch was April 27, 2004 )
And what if someone has been an active player since the beginning, yet still hasn't reached level 80, and still is far from it?
guys just analize the facts:
- gift for 80+ characters
- somekind of "help" with reaching the 80 lv cap

so conclusion is simple, its another way of saying GoD is commin, rush to 85 ASAP :D

What he said. But also see below...

does the account that has the lvl 80+ toon on it have to be active at april 25th?

I believe so, but I will double-check and get back to you.

Please don't give the same to everyone.
I suggest a god-box which if oppened it can give something out of 100+ items.

The level 80 gift is the same item for everyone that qualifies. We've seen from recent gifts to players that players don't seem to like random rewards. But... (see below)

Why use the term "regular players"? Are you inferring that players with level 1-79 characters are regular (normal?), and players with level 80 characters are..."irregular"?

You mention "other" anniversary celebrations. Does this mean that Sace's announcement of a "Level 80 Gift" is just the first of many?

I believe Moxie meant 'players that play regularly' as opposed to those that don't play very often and won't find out about this level 80 gift until we make our full-detail announcements later this month. You 'regular players' have the advantage of getting a heads up.

The level 80 gift is just for level 80 players, but there will be lots of other gifts for everyone. Stay tuned! :)

I was hoping for this... 3D Aden Castle Town Puzzle

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MPgatTUOiQ&feature=related

o.o

Awesome! Do want!
yeah i'm for vetran awards.... someone that has had a toon for 5 or 6 or 7 years...

Will be nice. Why not "for 5 and 6 and 7 years"? And gift should be amazing! :)

Can't wait April 25
yeah i'm for vetran awards.... someone that has had a toon for 5 or 6 or 7 years...

yea .. like in ultima online ... etheral horses :)
yea .. like in ultima online ... etheral horses :)

That would rock!

I want an ethereal Ostard!!!
The level 80 gift is just for level 80 players, but there will be lots of other gifts for everyone. Stay tuned! :)


A permanent Assassin's Bamboo Hat!

That hat is PIMPIN'!

I wanna be pimpin'!
Hey Sace :)
one question, u wrote that there will be an EP bonus so that player will reach lvl 80 faster :)
now im playing for more than 5 years, but i dont have very much time to play. my main is lvl 73 with a lvl 72 buffer behind her :)
so, if there is a realistic chance to hit lvl80 till 25th, then i will play this chars from now on every time i can :)
but i only have maybe 5-6 hours a week ^^
I believe so, but I will double-check and get back to you.

Alright waiting on this~
Can we do epic quests again? :D:D
I remmeber last double xp weekend u allowed players to do it, but i wasnt 79 yet =/

I would love that!

;)
Level 80 characters on inactive accounts will get them too, through a twist of fate... (more info later this month)

No, the epic quest reset-ability is not returning for this occasion. :o
Level 80 characters on inactive accounts will get them too, through a twist of fate... (more info soon)

No, the epic quest reset-ability is not returning for this occasion. :o


Ok thanks for the quick reply with this Sace.

Now depending on what the gift is will depend on if im going to reactivate another account with a 80+ toon on it.
Level 80 characters on inactive accounts will get them too, through a twist of fate... (more info soon)

No, the epic quest reset-ability is not returning for this occasion. :o

oh yeah.. thanks for the quick answer...

GC... here i come again :P
Level 80 characters on inactive accounts will get them too, through a twist of fate... (more info soon)

:o

this smells like a free activation on all inactive accounts for a short period of time :O, lets hope I'm right
this smells like a free activation on all inactive accounts for a short period of time :O, lets hope I'm right

Or , maybe they are going to announce that L2 goes F2P ... can only hope :)
I want adena for gift or at least a lot of attribute stones/crys :)
That would rock!

I want an ethereal Ostard!!!


ethereal ki-rin ftw!
oh yeah.. thanks for the quick answer...

GC... here i come again :P

I wish that we could get the Lvl 81 Epic Quest reset. That was a really cool quest!

Sure would help getting to 82.
oh yeah.. thanks for the quick answer...

GC... here i come again :P

yeah i'm for vetran awards.... someone that has had a toon for 5 or 6 or 7 years...


I'm all for that too! Many of us having playing for a long time - but never get much of a reward for that (one reason why there aren't very many veterans around - Prelude for me).


The idea that, if we've been playing for a long time, we should all be uber high level with uber super gear is funny. Some people have a life, and wan't to accomplish more than have multiple high-level characters on multiple accounts, with multiple billions in gear. Almost like ppl are trying to compensate for something. Personally, I'd rather succeed in accomplishing things outside the game, and use the game just for fun - if it becomes a priority I think you have some bigger problems than worrying about others spending such resources on a virtual world. Whatever works for ya tho. No doubt the game can be addicting.
Sorry, I didn't mean to spoil it even if it's true !


And btw a suggestion : if it's a item used only for 80+ players, why not giving one by account so lower level will have an other goal to be 80 ? :)

you already can get a cloak that does nothing from TW
Hi everyone,

We have some fun things coming later this month, and as part of that, all characters that are level 80 or above by April 25, 2011 will be rewarded with a special gift.

Don't worry, we'll give you some XP-help before the deadline. I can't say anything more about it now, though. ;)

i assume toons all need to be on lvl 80+ subs or main?
usually the way it works, should make sure everyone knows not to be on lowbie subs.
i assume toons all need to be on lvl 80+ subs or main?
usually the way it works, should make sure everyone knows not to be on lowbie subs.

You can be on a sub.
And what if someone has been an active player since the beginning, yet still hasn't reached level 80, and still is far from it? What about those dedicated warsmiths who's been too busy crafting stuff to get past level 70? Don't they deserve a gift?
This game is not all about leveling, after all.

Hehe, thanks for sticking up for me Acon ;)

Inch.
rofl.

Why laugh? As Acon said, there's a whole lot more to this game than just leveling.

Inch.
Or , maybe they are going to announce that L2 goes F2P ... can only hope :)

I hope not. F2P will exacerbate the botting problems in this game majorly.
a crystal that we can trade with an npc for a item of our choice i.e. hat or something we've always wanted bamboo hat, piratehat, cloak, horse with mount or those cute pets that were only in korea.



i can only dream... either way i hit 80 earlyer this week :D so BRING IT!!!! now working on my wc and clannies finnishing 80
I hope not. F2P will exacerbate the botting problems in this game majorly.
lol
Well, isn't it just dandy.
One day after my beloved Dominator, who is currently 79 and 85% (a 6 year old toon) goes inactive again (after two years away from the game) and I switch to my Spectral Dancer (to be finaly able to play with people instead of running 5 boxes because noone ever wants a dominator) I see this.
Sace say that those who have not yet lvl 80, will be helped to reach as soon cesta. how you'll do so April 25 is almost? My opinion is that this date was chosen wrong
**** i dont think i will make it i need like 1 and half lvl :(
its not that i have that much time to play every day >.<
maybe should take some days off from work haha
so am i getting from ur inference sace that it will be no use to be below 80 once GoD comes out?

if this be the truth i guess i better start cancelling my accts.....

i dont WANT to be 80 + lol.........
so am i getting from ur inference sace that it will be no use to be below 80 once GoD comes out?

if this be the truth i guess i better start cancelling my accts.....

i dont WANT to be 80 + lol.........


What's the reason to not want to be 80+?
Even in pve you miss most of the interesting content this way.
What's the reason to not want to be 80+?
Even in pve you miss most of the interesting content this way.


ORLY, do tell.

I just never realized this game was so one dimensional.
ORLY, do tell.

I just never realized this game was so one dimensional.

What do you not understand in word "content"? Cause there is nothing false in my previous sentence, just stating fact.
Actually i beleive there is considerably more accessible content at lower lvls BELOW 80 then there is above 80.... however it's mostly different content...

So the "FACT" may not be so accurate depending on the stipulations for what you classify as being content...

From a full overall game perspective..... your likely 100% inaccurate... meaning your facts are infactual.
# 1 this question was posed to sace.....


to the rest of u guys.....

i play how i want to play and i pay my 15$/month (in my case 70$ lol) just like everybody else. Its irrelevant whether im of use to u lolol its only relevant if NCSOFT dosnt want my subscribtion money ne more lol

and btw to answer the question of why i dont want to..... please refer to my many post on this sublect... it seems ppl get ticked when i explain for some one who genuinely asks lololol
so am i getting from ur inference sace that it will be no use to be below 80 once GoD comes out?

if this be the truth i guess i better start cancelling my accts.....

i dont WANT to be 80 + lol.........

You show them who is boss! Cancel all those accounts.
i want my galsses back!!! O.Q
my toon just lock to **** with it :D /charism +4 ftw

a powerfull shadow wep/armor for kill faster,

or may be a wonder full cubic with the chanse evryday of get a tradeable vit or nevits less potion (like +10 - 30minuts of nevits, or +3% -7% vit)

chanse to keep our sub classes and chose sub skills like if we have another (i keep the dream of have a healer in sub but his sub skill dont help me in anything :-/


a advanced airstile :D (punk time!!!)


or a new pvp dungeon like the carrier in aion :3


ya im dreaming but dont cost ;)
So long time players don't count?!?
Why the level and not the play time??
and if you have the time, and not the level, why not put it into warehouse to spur these peeps on.

Not quite right I be thinking!

If you're a long-time player and don't have an 80 (especially after high-five), you're doing something wrong.
If you're a long-time player and don't have an 80 (especially after high-five), you're doing something wrong.
hi james
i want my galsses back!!! O.Q
my toon just lock to **** with it :D /charism +4 ftw

a powerfull shadow wep/armor for kill faster,

or may be a wonder full cubic with the chanse evryday of get a tradeable vit or nevits less potion (like +10 - 30minuts of nevits, or +3% -7% vit)

chanse to keep our sub classes and chose sub skills like if we have another (i keep the dream of have a healer in sub but his sub skill dont help me in anything :-/


a advanced airstile :D (punk time!!!)


or a new pvp dungeon like the carrier in aion :3


ya im dreaming but dont cost ;)

Since its dreaming time
I hope lvl 80+ ppl be able to test the GoD PTS lauched here in the same time as korean! :D
heheheh
Just to make it sure,this present for 80+ toons on 25 of April i hope it wont be a one day to claim thing...cause it will be vacation period for many of us and we may not be able to login.
Looking for Confirmation that all Level 80 Toons will automatically be changed to Level 85.

There is speculation about this as GoD approaches; I cannot imagine a Gift that would be worthwhile otherwise unless it be F2P L2. Guess we wait to see...
WTB GM's with vit....Im gettin close but at a screeching halt w/out their "assistance"
if you sub is 80 will we get 2?
guys quit the cracking on me schtick...it gets real old fast... i aint whining or complaining. All im asking is for communication FROM NCSOFT not u guys as to whether this is the direction they are going. I have the right to play the way i do. heck i have the right to stay lvl 1 lol


i just wanna know so i can move on to another game more suitied for me and not waste my time and money if the next update negates the ability to play the way i want to play.


put it this way guys.... the quicker i get official confirmation, the quicker u get rid of me lololol :)
guys quit the cracking on me schtick...it gets real old fast... i aint whining or complaining. All im asking is for communication FROM NCSOFT not u guys as to whether this is the direction they are going. I have the right to play the way i do. heck i have the right to stay lvl 1 lol


i just wanna know so i can move on to another game more suitied for me and not waste my time and money if the next update negates the ability to play the way i want to play.


put it this way guys.... the quicker i get official confirmation, the quicker u get rid of me lololol :)

You can still play the way you want to play, and NCSoft can reward the way they want to reward. Simple logic is simple.
smittie just gave me a PM that might clear up what i fear.....






im not talking about the cloak. Since i have no 80 toons its irrelevant to me.


Im asking if shes implying that GoD will wipe out pre 80 content, and just make a fast grind to 80 instead of having a place wher i can still bash my head on sub 80 mobs all day....

ie: plans in the works for destroying catacombs and necroplises?
smittie just gave me a PM that might clear up what i fear.....






im not talking about the cloak. Since i have no 80 toons its irrelevant to me.


Im asking if shes implying that GoD will wipe out pre 80 content, and just make a fast grind to 80 instead of having a place wher i can still bash my head on sub 80 mobs all day....

ie: plans in the works for destroying catacombs and necroplises?

You'll have to wait until more information about GD is released publicly. For now, we are encouraging players to level up because it's looking like a lot of GD content is for high levels-- but that doesn't mean that GD is *only* for high levels. Level 80 is not going to be the new level 1.
well at least that clears up some of it. But ur concept of encouraging DISHEARTENS me would it be better to say that if u want to be part of the new GoD content its for higher levels? lolol


i got scared cuz im thinking dang it all no more 60's grind for me lolol im one of the insanely proud few who want to stay in their 60's and 70's and dont want to be involved in high lvl content.....


once a serf ... always a serf lololol
well at least that clears up some of it. But ur concept of encouraging DISHEARTENS me would it be better to say that if u want to be part of the new GoD content its for higher levels? lolol


i got scared cuz im thinking dang it all no more 60's grind for me lolol im one of the insanely proud few who want to stay in their 60's and 70's and dont want to be involved in high lvl content.....


once a serf ... always a serf lololol

Why would developers spend time on content for a small population of players that is ever decreasing? You are playing the game the way you want to play the game (which is fine) but not to how the developers have envisioned the game to be played (e.g., all players would strive to continuously level).
i agree so id rather they cut there losses so i can move on to another game than waste my time and money.... hence why i asked the question :)

im not asking whether there will be new content for us ... i was just asking if they are destroyng the content i enjoy :)

because her agreeing with the conclusion that we are getting "something that will help everyone reach lvl 80", and agreeing that "we should rush to 85" implys that they may be getting rid of sub 80 content at GoD
Hi everyone,

We have some fun things coming later this month, and as part of that, all characters that are level 80 or above by April 25, 2011 will be rewarded with a special gift.

Don't worry, we'll give you some XP-help before the deadline. I can't say anything more about it now, though. ;)

a refund?

You'll have to wait until more information about GD is released publicly. For now, we are encouraging players to level up because it's looking like a lot of GD content is for high levels-- but that doesn't mean that GD is *only* for high levels. Level 80 is not going to be the new level 1.

lvl 85 will be the new lvl 1

i am doing a smittie impersonation...
yah but not very well... at least smittie makes sense...


since u guys have no idea of what im talking about ill quote it....



Originally Posted by KillerBean
guys just analize the facts:
- gift for 80+ characters
- somekind of "help" with reaching the 80 lv cap

so conclusion is simple, its another way of saying GoD is commin, rush to 85 ASAP

in reply Sace said:

What he said. But also see below...


when u say "What he said" it implys that u agree with that statement....

hence why i asked for clarification.....

so in responce she said :

no u do not have to rush to 85 if u dont want to. As far as she knows the new lvl 1 will not be 80.

thats all . thats it. end of story. Thats all i was asking for clarification on that 1 point.
On a totally different note:

soem times it does work when ppl say they wont particpate in events, that it changes event policy as illustrated by this quote from sace:


The level 80 gift is the same item for everyone that qualifies. We've seen from recent gifts to players that players don't seem to like random rewards.


hence why sometimes its good to have us ppl who beleive that non participation brings about change:)
guys quit the cracking on me schtick...it gets real old fast... i aint whining or complaining. All im asking is for communication FROM NCSOFT not u guys as to whether this is the direction they are going. I have the right to play the way i do. heck i have the right to stay lvl 1 lol


i just wanna know so i can move on to another game more suitied for me and not waste my time and money if the next update negates the ability to play the way i want to play.


put it this way guys.... the quicker i get official confirmation, the quicker u get rid of me lololol :)

As has been noted... this is just a game. How you play and how you approach the content is entirely individual. There is no right or wrong way to play. I bring up a perfect example... Splatter. Now there was a guy who knew exactly how he wanted to play his orc. The rest of ya be ****ed... he liked being in the newbie areas, he liked leveling slowly . He spent his time exploring and learning about the environment and building a backstory for himself (you know, the RP part of it all). Did he play wrong... no he didn't. Its all about perspective.

Now I've been playing since July 2004. I have a soon to be 78 pally and a 65 SH sub (along with a smattering of lvl 40-71 alts). I've taken my time and enjoyed the ride. I feel no compultion or "need" to drive myself to higher levels as quickly as I can get them. Its all about perspective and what gives you enjoyment playing the game.

Inch.
hi james

hi damian :P
no u do not have to rush to 85 if u dont want to.

stu, just to know...
what do u do in 70+ lvls? and in 60+ lvls?
I am really interested on what is so exciting to do at those lvls, since i think i gave up on lvl grinding to 85 for a loong time :D
well its not interesting in fact evrybody ive evr come in contact with gets bored real quick lol


but im a bit OCD (for those who dont know what that is look it u p lol)

so its the constant repetitave nature that relaxes me..... if i am ever changing i stress out.... BIG TIME lol

so i have a 86 wolf, on lvl 67-76 toons..... hitting the same 8 mobs in a cata room..... sometimes 8-10hrs a day lolololol

in fact i just delved beylyyn's sub(my actual main char) a DC from 78 to 76 because under the new rules he has to be within 9 lvls to be in party with my 67's lololol
well its not interesting in fact evrybody ive evr come in contact with gets bored real quick lol


but im a bit OCD (for those who dont know what that is look it u p lol)

so its the constant repetitave nature that relaxes me..... if i am ever changing i stress out.... BIG TIME lol

so i have a 86 wolf, on lvl 67-76 toons..... hitting the same 8 mobs in a cata room..... sometimes 8-10hrs a day lolololol

in fact i just delved beylyyn's sub(my actual main char) a DC from 78 to 76 because under the new rules he has to be within 9 lvls to be in party with my 67's lololol]

so its like L2 being your therapy?!
to get unstressed?

I think catas wont change at all :P
just chill... i doubt that this game will ever stop being a grinding no stop machine ppl
;)
stop QQ and be happy that NCsoft are giving us something intead!
Well there are some people like stupidity at which I wouldn't like to point fingers who are coming to event discussion and QQing all over that they are being left behind while they have no right what so ever to do so.

First of all this game is all about progression: level progression, gear progression, etc. If you choose to ignore that it's fine by me I can't care less but just please stop QQ all over the boards that it's unfair that NCsoft encouraging progression because you choose not to progress.

It's not event for you so just leave. It's event for player who are interested in progression, you don't meet criteria so why you crying?

If you wanna know more about GOD: the progression 40-85 will be significantly improved, many areas will be redesigned so players could progress those levels as fast as possible. This was stated in couple interviews already. So yes, don't waste your money. Leave now.
1. I aint qqing lol ... I just asked a question. I guess asking is qqing? Did i ever say..."do u guys have to do this?" thats qqing lol

I beleive the first step to understanding is asking. So i ask. Sry i ever offened ne one lololol


2. This is the first i have heard "many areas will be redesigned so players could progress those levels as fast as possible" could someone direct me to this info? cuz all im trying to do to is figure this out. Sry if us stupid ppl bother u so much.......
Why would developers spend time on content for a small population of players that is ever decreasing? You are playing the game the way you want to play the game (which is fine) but not to how the developers have envisioned the game to be played (e.g., all players would strive to continuously level).

So this confirms it then. This is truly a Dead game since only content and people that NcSoft cares about are 80+, why would anyone new ever consider this game in the future.

Yup, this is where the company determines which brands to keep and which to let waste away until the subscriptions fail to cover the ping, power, bandwidth to keep the server running.
1. I aint qqing lol ... I just asked a question. I guess asking is qqing? Did i ever say..."do u guys have to do this?" thats qqing lol

I beleive the first step to understanding is asking. So i ask. Sry i ever offened ne one lololol


2. This is the first i have heard "many areas will be redesigned so players could progress those levels as fast as possible" could someone direct me to this info? cuz all im trying to do to is figure this out. Sry if us stupid ppl bother u so much.......
http://gametsg.yatta.com.tw/lineage2/index.php?view=article&articleid=317197

It also makes sense, the <85 content will become completely useless so there's no reason to keep players locked there for long periods of time.

So this confirms it then. This is truly a Dead game since only content and people that NcSoft cares about are 80+, why would anyone new ever consider this game in the future.

Yup, this is where the company determines which brands to keep and which to let waste away until the subscriptions fail to cover the ping, power, bandwidth to keep the server running.

I'm sorry but getting 80+ these days is piece of cake. Even if you play an hour a day on average you should be making something like 5-10% during that hour @ level 78.

The reason NCsoft cares about 80+ players is that majority of those players are already 80+. I literally can't imagine where you should exp not be be 80 by this time. Or if you play 3 hours a week than it's completely different case. You simply don't have enough time to achieve your goals.

On the other side of things you may also want to try and find more active clan because this game is and always be about party play. It always was 2-3 times faster to exp in full groups compared to solo exping.
I wish that we could get the Lvl 81 Epic Quest reset. That was a really cool quest!

Sure would help getting to 82.


Yes absolutely yes do that one twice too please please please

Compared to 79 one this is really a FUN quest !!

I want more quests like that one !!!
Anyone remember this (http://www.lineage2.com/newsletter/0704/index.html)?

This was before the Kamael update, so it's obviously been a while.

I'm not sure if there was a recent (2010) newsletter that had updated stats. The newsletter archive on Lineage II's main site lists March 2009 as the most recent newsletter, and I haven't been receiving any newsletters even though I checked the box to receive them.

Anyway, is it possible to get updated "Fun Facts" again? Or, if there was a recent newsletter that has updated stats, can someone post it?

Sace, Moxie, anyone; let's see how many characters are now at 80-85, compared to the overall population of the two servers. Given the massive changes (new race, vitality, merged servers, etc.) since these stats were published, I'm interested in seeing how much has changed.
Anyone remember this (http://www.lineage2.com/newsletter/0704/index.html)?

This was before the Kamael update, so it's obviously been a while.

I'm not sure if there was a recent (2010) newsletter that had updated stats. The newsletter archive on Lineage II's main site lists March 2009 as the most recent newsletter, and I haven't been receiving any newsletters even though I checked the box to receive them.

Anyway, is it possible to get updated "Fun Facts" again? Or, if there was a recent newsletter that has updated stats, can someone post it?

Sace, Moxie, anyone; let's see how many characters are now at 80-85, compared to the overall population of the two servers. Given the massive changes (new race, vitality, merged servers, etc.) since these stats were published, I'm interested in seeing how much has changed.

WoW! Those fun facts would be really cool to know:)
Anyone remember this (http://www.lineage2.com/newsletter/0704/index.html)?

This was before the Kamael update, so it's obviously been a while.

I'm not sure if there was a recent (2010) newsletter that had updated stats. The newsletter archive on Lineage II's main site lists March 2009 as the most recent newsletter, and I haven't been receiving any newsletters even though I checked the box to receive them.

Anyway, is it possible to get updated "Fun Facts" again? Or, if there was a recent newsletter that has updated stats, can someone post it?

Sace, Moxie, anyone; let's see how many characters are now at 80-85, compared to the overall population of the two servers. Given the massive changes (new race, vitality, merged servers, etc.) since these stats were published, I'm interested in seeing how much has changed.

We do have plans to include some numbers like these. Dang it, ruined the surprise! :p
I want to xp my sub to 75, thx gms :(, now i cant do that, only 1 lvl for 80, why now doing this? :(
I want to xp my sub to 75, thx gms :(, now i cant do that, only 1 lvl for 80, why now doing this? :(

Try to understand this, there will always be some1 who is left behind. It's literally impossible to satisfy everyone.

Now since you are 79 if I guess right(1 lvl form level 80!) you should do epic quest which gives 30% exp and the rest can be easily accomplished with a GC party of 7 people in 4-5 days of 2-3hours / day exp buying nevits hourglasses.
Try to understand this, there will always be some1 who is left behind. It's literally impossible to satisfy everyone.

Now since you are 79 if I guess right(1 lvl form level 80!) you should do epic quest which gives 30% exp and the rest can be easily accomplished with a GC party of 7 people in 4-5 days of 2-3hours / day exp buying nevits hourglasses.
full mage party in naia really rare, i can exping only in PI.
full mage party in naia really rare, i can exping only in PI.

Hold the event, Magefan need to hit lvl 80.
On a numbers tangent, is there any way we can find out how many actual hours we have had online on our toons? lol
well its not interesting in fact evrybody ive evr come in contact with gets bored real quick lol


but im a bit OCD (for those who dont know what that is look it u p lol)

so its the constant repetitave nature that relaxes me..... if i am ever changing i stress out.... BIG TIME lol

so i have a 86 wolf, on lvl 67-76 toons..... hitting the same 8 mobs in a cata room..... sometimes 8-10hrs a day lolololol

in fact i just delved beylyyn's sub(my actual main char) a DC from 78 to 76 because under the new rules he has to be within 9 lvls to be in party with my 67's lololol


Same here i like the lower zones and often wish they would become higher ones because i miss them so much.
I also have alts in zones 50 -60 -70 for whnever i feel nostalgic.
The repetitiveness ? Not really i do level each of them verry diffirently, trying another approach each time. Finding i could do this or that faster or better even finding new tactics for my mains.

And yes its unstressing, the grind is like the only thing that unstresses me at all from RL issues or sometimes ingame drama.
My favorite spot has to be frozen labyrinth and enchanted valley, enjoying EV as much as i can now, since its gonna get changed in GOD.

Looking forward to roam there again on high levels then, but doubt EV be the shout zone it once used to be, kinda hot shouts there lol.

On a numbers tangent, is there any way we can find out how many actual hours we have had online on our toons? lol


Yeh i'm pretty curious too how manny hours/days /years i been online so far...
Yeh i'm pretty curious too how manny hours/days /years i been online so far...

i don't want to know that! omg! :eek:

lol I am gonna work my spoiler's rear off trying for 80 (hoping for double xp week!) but I seriously hope it's not those cloaks unless they have some special skills or something >< 80 cloak quest, zaken cloak quest, I mean how many cloaks do we need? :o
On a numbers tangent, is there any way we can find out how many actual hours we have had online on our toons? lol

I'm afraid we can't provide players with that info for now. Hopefully in the future, though, it's a good idea.
I'm afraid we can't provide players with that info for now. Hopefully in the future, though, it's a good idea.

brb querying years of server logs.
hope we get a LOT of help in the next 15 days haha
Sounts interesting :)
hmm, why u all want a double exp week / weekend ?

i would vote for vit4 week / weekend,
because double is xxxx if ur on perma vit0...
(or a nice event for a huge load vita pops)

btw, its weekend .. im hopefully awaiting gm vit at aden gk ;)
hmm, why u all want a double exp week / weekend ?

i would vote for vit4 week / weekend,
because double is xxxx if ur on perma vit0...
(or a nice event for a huge load vita pops)

btw, its weekend .. im hopefully awaiting gm vit at aden gk ;)
Double or quadruple xp will NEVER cut it.

If the aim is for lvl 78-79 toons to get to level 80 u have only ONE option and that 's the famous X10 XP weekends, and preferably to start those at friday afternoon and end on monday to cover the full population.

THAT is the ONLY way for regular players .
NPC click for instant 80 would do the trick imo.
Still have some subs that need to be 80 ^^
holding vit or nevits at full over whatever x xp imo
Can you help us with an event Double XP/SP to reach lvl 80 for get the reward?

Thanks :)
What ever the 80+ gift is they should give the <80 players 3 non trade able vitality herbs for every level they are below 80. This might even make up for all the times we have had to re roll. LOL.
I'm not suggesting this cause my toons are below 80 either. 3 are but 4 aren't. 2 of the 3 that aren't, are within 2 levels of 80. The 3rd is a crafter and will never get leveled.
I just don't think there has been enough done for the casual player. The person who gets maybe an hour to play a day if they are lucky.
I have 3 full accounts and only 3 chars 80+... Should I start crying for vita pops for all my chars? :D
Ppl, get real. Who picked not to get higher than 78 (like stupidity), it's your choice.
Who is not level 80 because just started - don't worry, we will get some other "event" with rewards later on too. I'm sure.
All the rest that play for long time and have one main 80+ and other 80-, you will get reward to your main, what's the problem?
And I guess the "gift" is clear now - anniversary cloaks like it was in Korea.
i was hoping a sub of our choice up to lvl 80. that would be a great gift for all:)
if they just want the server to be lvl 80 why not just make one toon that is over 76 or highest to 80 in every account
if they just want the server to be lvl 80 why not just make one toon that is over 76 or highest to 80 in every account

its not the kind of nscsof to make thing so easly
its not the kind of nscsof to make thing so easly

LOL they make things waaaaaay to easy now days....
they changed the lineage "grind" to "log in and youll lvl"
LOL they make things waaaaaay to easy now days....
they changed the lineage "grind" to "log in and youll lvl"

If by "log in and you'll level", you mean log in and hit monsters for 900 hours, you would be correct.
DING!

80!

Now i can sleep well again ;)
Looking foward for the gift!
(i just wish that is something permanent... like a hat included or something... i hate things that have time counter)
If by "log in and you'll level", you mean log in and hit monsters for 900 hours, you would be correct.

If you are 83, in 900 hours you can without too big problem do 3600%, and yes that is 36 levels.
LOL they make things waaaaaay to easy now days....
they changed the lineage "grind" to "log in and youll lvl"

sure thing, i get max 0.5 - 1% a hour in gc with my perma vitality ZERO (at lvl 79)... its near from alone^^

stop smoking buddy ;)
If you guys are going to give the 80+ gifts, it would be really nice if you gave all toons who didn't receive a gift some gifts too, either for longevity as suggested, or to help them get to 80 to see the new Goddess content.

This is a beautiful game. Not everyone who plays it does so for pvp or end game content, I've met many people who play just for a 'place' to escape from the real world for a few hours.

When I first returned to L2, I didn't remember much. The first toon I met in this game when I came back after 4 years gone was a level 5 ... who had played for years. She would level the char to 30 and DELETE IT. Over and over again. She followed me around, explaining how to pm people, how to set up my hotbar again, how to attack, how to MOVE. I was a total spatz day 1, and her being there is what made me decide to reactivate my old account.

I am still grateful to her, and have repeatedly tried to buy her gear, send her adena... all of which was returned. She didn't WANT to get ahead in the game, because she only had 1 arm. This 'world' was a place she could feel normal, and knowing she couldn't play fast, she wanted to stay in the range of the newbie protection spell and out of reach of the pvp.

I believe she loves this game more than those who want to simply beat it and move on. I wonder how many people play this game for reasons other than to 'win'... and I'd wager quite a few. Sometimes the little things are what keep people playing, and I hope that long time loyal players get a 'gift' too. Maybe they'd be ok without one, but they'd probably appreciate it more.
sure thing, i get max 0.5 - 1% a hour in gc with my perma vitality ZERO (at lvl 79)... its near from alone^^

stop smoking buddy ;)

that my friend is slow as hell try a better group maybe? >.<
sure thing, i get max 0.5 - 1% a hour in gc with my perma vitality ZERO (at lvl 79)... its near from alone^^

stop smoking buddy ;)

lol I was leveling friends in fog from 79-80 in, like, 3 days. 0.5-1% an hour is horrid, I'd quit if I had to suffer with that.
If you are 83, in 900 hours you can without too big problem do 3600%, and yes that is 36 levels.

Yeah. 2-3% a day on lv84 with only a bit of vit2+1hr nevit 50% is really doable in Dragon Valley. I don't even focus on leveling to 85 and it's goes so fast.
If you guys are going to give the 80+ gifts, it would be really nice if you gave all toons who didn't receive a gift some gifts too, either for longevity as suggested, or to help them get to 80 to see the new Goddess content.

This is a beautiful game. Not everyone who plays it does so for pvp or end game content, I've met many people who play just for a 'place' to escape from the real world for a few hours.

When I first returned to L2, I didn't remember much. The first toon I met in this game when I came back after 4 years gone was a level 5 ... who had played for years. She would level the char to 30 and DELETE IT. Over and over again. She followed me around, explaining how to pm people, how to set up my hotbar again, how to attack, how to MOVE. I was a total spatz day 1, and her being there is what made me decide to reactivate my old account.

I am still grateful to her, and have repeatedly tried to buy her gear, send her adena... all of which was returned. She didn't WANT to get ahead in the game, because she only had 1 arm. This 'world' was a place she could feel normal, and knowing she couldn't play fast, she wanted to stay in the range of the newbie protection spell and out of reach of the pvp.

I believe she loves this game more than those who want to simply beat it and move on. I wonder how many people play this game for reasons other than to 'win'... and I'd wager quite a few. Sometimes the little things are what keep people playing, and I hope that long time loyal players get a 'gift' too. Maybe they'd be ok without one, but they'd probably appreciate it more.

Totally agree. I have talked with a lot of ppl over my 5 yrs of L2 which play the game cos of some RL reasons.
I think long time loyal players should get rewarded also, not only the fast lvling ppl that have seen like 10% of the whole L2 world.
that my friend is slow as hell try a better group maybe? >.<

mobs give only ~100k exp if no nevits and such ..

and vit take like 5 days till its full -- to get ***** in 1 hour ;)
5 anakim scrolls for all Clan Warehouses and 2 anakim scrolls in private warehouses/inventary.
Lineage 2 Siege will be fun again ^^
Actually,
I would like to suggest another type of event , that could follow up this one verry nicely:

Reward for oldest players.

Pretty easey to check who been in game the longest trough payments. And yes interruptions in that should be taken in count.

So a player that was there first week of open beta then cancelled his account till a week ago; only played 2 weeks and not 8 years.

So the real active oldest players, so lets say the 1000 oldest players receveive a veteran gift.

Would be welcome and well merited i think.
mobs give only ~100k exp if no nevits and such ..

and vit take like 5 days till its full -- to get ***** in 1 hour ;)

My party in GC tyrant duelist sd and pp (DC oop) is making on the pp she is 79 a lot more per hour even with no nevit no vit so i tell you again, get a better group :\
My party in GC tyrant duelist sd and pp (DC oop) is making on the pp she is 79 a lot more per hour even with no nevit no vit so i tell you again, get a better group :\

I can vouch for what this guy said. :P

Ninja edit:

Any news on what the gift will be? :)
Any news on what the gift will be? :)

or any news on this :

we'll give you some XP-help before the deadline
I feel all those that have been playing for more than 11 days are entitled to get this level 80 gift. Even casual players deserve some kind of gift and are entitled to something free for just playing this game!

Oops, that isn't how I really feel. If you aren’t 80 by now, it’s just too bad. If you can’t spend the time to have a character 80, oh well. If you can't deal with the level of commitment required of this game you should find a deck of cards. The sad belief no kid left behind belief sickens me! Not all the kids playing soccer should get a stupid trophy for sitting on the bench. Only losers want everyone to have some medal just for participating in a competitive activity. If you go above and beyond the casual player there are perks, such is life.
Sorry, Sace said Regular Player, not casual, not get a real life player, a Regular Player. Since that isn't defined in the rules to play this game, then it is open for debate what makes a Regular Player here.
Sorry, Sace said Regular Player, not casual, not get a real life player, a Regular Player. Since that isn't defined in the rules to play this game, then it is open for debate what makes a Regular Player here.

I'm an Exceptional Valorite Player, Crafted by Fergu

Do I get extra gifts?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casual_game

Casual gamers are typically older than traditional computer gamers, and more often female, with over 74% of casual gamers being female.

Most casual games have similar basic features:


Allowing gameplay in short bursts, during work breaks


The ability to quickly reach a final stage
Most casual games have similar basic features:


Allowing gameplay in short bursts, during work breaks


The ability to quickly reach a final stage


See Also: World of Warcraft.
WTB EVENT this week
I feel all those that have been playing for more than 11 days are entitled to get this level 80 gift. Even casual players deserve some kind of gift and are entitled to something free for just playing this game!
Oops, that isn't how I really feel.
I still remember the time when NCsoft was giving ingame souvenirs to everyone.
as to lvling slowly....

man u guys are hilarious.....

i lvled from 74-76 at 100 hrs/lvl (yes u heard right 1%/hr) took me 3 hardcore weeks on my main ....

the grind just aint what it used to be lol....

i also remember taking 12 hrs to go from 51-52 lol

and id still do it today if i could lol
I feel all those that have been playing for more than 11 days are entitled to get this level 80 gift. Even casual players deserve some kind of gift and are entitled to something free for just playing this game!

Oops, that isn't how I really feel. If you aren’t 80 by now, it’s just too bad. If you can’t spend the time to have a character 80, oh well. If you can't deal with the level of commitment required of this game you should find a deck of cards. The sad belief no kid left behind belief sickens me! Not all the kids playing soccer should get a stupid trophy for sitting on the bench. Only losers want everyone to have some medal just for participating in a competitive activity. If you go above and beyond the casual player there are perks, such is life.

Cant figure out if you are trolling, it's like you are a little kid in a toy shop not wanting to share. I can give you multiple very valid reasons why the reward should be given to everyone. However , ncsoft has said 80 , and that's probably with a reason. They might be planning on giving something that is only usable by 80+ people.

Then i think that they should also give something to the people that havent played untill that level. It's a sandbox game , the goals in this game are the ones you make. If i decide to roleplay a lot , you know , in a mmoRPG, then my levels probably wont increase a lot.

People like you play this game like counterstrike, rush to the highest level , and then pwn some newbs, missing about 90% of the original game content. When i start , we didnt whine about levels , or gear , you often saw lvl 20's and lvl 40's in the same group , because we liked playing in groups with friends, not cause it was the optimal thing needed to get the maximum of xp.

As for your comment about "no kid left behind" , seriously , have you been playing lineage 2 for long? they always did that , revita pots , chronicle weapons , ... , even the "gift" we got a couple of weeks ago was for everyone. How long have you been playing?
u make 1 good point meander.... this will be the first lvl driven gift EVER given by ncsoft.....


im not against that... but it will be the first time.....

also as far as number go.....

i think it would be advantagous to find out even the % of chars that are 80+ and 80-. this would neither single ne out, nor include them in a group, therefore no info needs to be shared about real chars situations.....
I feel all those that have been playing for more than 11 days are entitled to get this level 80 gift. Even casual players deserve some kind of gift and are entitled to something free for just playing this game!

Oops, that isn't how I really feel. If you aren’t 80 by now, it’s just too bad. If you can’t spend the time to have a character 80, oh well. If you can't deal with the level of commitment required of this game you should find a deck of cards. The sad belief no kid left behind belief sickens me! Not all the kids playing soccer should get a stupid trophy for sitting on the bench. Only losers want everyone to have some medal just for participating in a competitive activity. If you go above and beyond the casual player there are perks, such is life.

I wonder what you'd have to say if NCSoft had announced a gift ONLY for those level 85 with 3 level 80 subs. My clan is primarily those levels, and there are plenty of other people on our server, including most members of several other large clans, who are also there.

Since Goddess is ONLY for people who are ready to 'evolve', that's them, and clearly not you by your signature. By your own logic, you deserve no entitlement either, right? Because giving 'gifts' to people for a high level zone coming out should be for those who can start playing those high levels zones only, again, according to your logic?

Those players already to Goddess levels have a level of commitment you don't share, they deserve a medal you are also going to get arbitrarily. What makes you special enough to say that about others who also aren't at the arbitrary level? Given how many players are way ahead of you in levels, you're a casual player too, the 'no kid left behind' you mentioned. Why the insults?

As for medals and being special in the game, it's already in game. It's called the Olympiad. If you are dedicated and so worthy, you get to be a Hero, get a fancy hero weapon, special hero buffs, and you glow in the dark. If your clan is special, and you are so worthy, your clan owns a castle. There are plenty of things built into the game to designate how special you are, how hard you work.

However, L2 is not counterstrike, it's a real time MMO. Those who are supercompetitive already get rewards in the game, many many types of rewards (boss drops, better gear, hero status, more/better skills, OE, augments, etc)... things that people who are not as dedicated timewise can not get anyway. Does anyone who play for the enjoyment of the game itself get anything ever? No. So why slap them some more?

And I want to mention that while I think of myself as a casual gamer... I'm not by anyone's measure, and I'm going to get a 'gift' anyway, so I'm not sour graping for myself.
If this gift is really anniversary cloaks as it was in Korea it's just determined by GAME mechanics that cloaks CAN BE WORN only on 80+ lvl. Even if Sace, Moxie and the rest of their team badly want to reward all people here, it's not what they can really change.

More QQing on forum ofc can motivate them to hand out few revipa-pops to those that below 80.
I'm going to add an afterthought, since I'm just as annoyed as you were when you posted about your entitlement. If this is going to be that cape, a large percentage of us will end up with SIX capes in our very limited warehouse space almost immediately.

Unless it's got mad stats that beat Zaken/Frint/Freya's, this gift will be no more useful than the chronos weapon from Chronicle 1 to those that will get it. If that's the case, then I'd rather see any player who's been here for years get a special hat, instead of giving me any gift at all. Heck, I'd rather have a special hat too.
More QQing on forum ofc can motivate them to hand out few revipa-pops to those that below 80.

Exactly:). Or a hat... or something...
If this gift is really anniversary cloaks as it was in Korea it's just determined by GAME mechanics that cloaks CAN BE WORN only on 80+ lvl. Even if Sace, Moxie and the rest of their team badly want to reward all people here, it's not what they can really change.
this may have been right when koreans had 7th anniversary last year.
But now dynasty sets are s grade and still open cloak slot, there are just no s grade cloaks (yet) :rolleyes:

PS: imho those '7th anniversary'-cloak are grade-less ....
as to lvling slowly....

man u guys are hilarious.....

i lvled from 74-76 at 100 hrs/lvl (yes u heard right 1%/hr) took me 3 hardcore weeks on my main ....

the grind just aint what it used to be lol....

i also remember taking 12 hrs to go from 51-52 lol

and id still do it today if i could lol

If you really want to level that slowly, I'm sure you could find a clan that has a war with everyone on the server. You would level fairly slowly and have a lot more SP to spare !
even if the cloak is lvl 80 why not give it to everyone anyway and when the person gets to 80 it has something more...
People like you play this game like counterstrike, rush to the highest level , and then pwn some newbs, missing about 90% of the original game content. When i start , we didnt whine about levels , or gear , you often saw lvl 20's and lvl 40's in the same group , because we liked playing in groups with friends, not cause it was the optimal thing needed to get the maximum of xp.

As for your comment about "no kid left behind" , seriously , have you been playing lineage 2 for long? they always did that , revita pots , chronicle weapons , ... , even the "gift" we got a couple of weeks ago was for everyone. How long have you been playing?


I totally agree with this, even to the point where the lastest update says "if you die whilst wearing an academy circlet, you lose less XP; if you don't have it, you can go buy it back from xxx"

I levelled past 40 before the academy existed, and therefore can't get the circlet; it's one of those things, get over it, move on, and don't die!

People also forget one thing, the 80's gift, whatever it is, will be free. No work needed, no event, no quest, no effort. If you don't want it, delete it. If you aren't 80, (like most of my characters), you don't get it; it's one of those things, get over it, move on.
Then i think that they should also give something to the people that havent played untill that level. It's a sandbox game , the goals in this game are the ones you make. If i decide to roleplay a lot , you know , in a mmoRPG, then my levels probably wont increase a lot.
Last time I checked, Lineage II was a typical Korean hardcore grindfest with competition between players. Not a sandbox game at all. If L2 is your idea of a sandbox game, what is Minecraft? :rolleyes:

Also, it's a common misconception to associate RPG to roleplaying. RPG in the video games only means you have a character with stats that evolve during the adventure. Add MMO to it and it's still the same. It isn't linked to roleplaying, pen&paper or psychotherapy.
i have a feeling they have no idea what they gonna do on the 25th yet
normaly they dont announce things so early before time. :)
i think she posted this topic here to see if there are any good ideas to do on the 25th :p
its like a brainstorm session in a meeting hehe
Last time I checked, Lineage II was a typical Korean hardcore grindfest with competition between players. Not a sandbox game at all. If L2 is your idea of a sandbox game, what is Minecraft? :rolleyes:

Also, it's a common misconception to associate RPG to roleplaying. RPG in the video games only means you have a character with stats that evolve during the adventure. Add MMO to it and it's still the same. It isn't linked to roleplaying, pen&paper or psychotherapy.

RPG = Role playing game .... i dont know if you knew , but back in the day people used to actually roleplay in this game, lionna used to be the unofficial roleplaying server. I played mmorpg's for about 15-16 years now, please dont talk to me like i dont know what mmorpg's are.

Ok , i admit , the term sandbox is maybe stretching it a bit for this game, but , you do not HAVE to level in this game to have fun , playing with a group of friends , talking , doing a raidboss here and there , is fun. Doesnt matter if you are level 40 or 85. Also , Minecraft i call a second job :) you start playing in the evening , and suddenly it's morning and time to go to your first Job :(.

say what you want , but i still think it's a bad idea to give people something that cannot be obtained by other people no mather how hard they try afterwards. Let's see what they are giving as reward first , and what they are going to do to help lowbies to 80 fast.
Last time I checked, Lineage II was a typical Korean hardcore grindfest with competition between players. Not a sandbox game at all. If L2 is your idea of a sandbox game, what is Minecraft? :rolleyes:

Also, it's a common misconception to associate RPG to roleplaying. RPG in the video games only means you have a character with stats that evolve during the adventure. Add MMO to it and it's still the same. It isn't linked to roleplaying, pen&paper or psychotherapy.

Unless you choose to make it so. There's a fansite (http://www.l2rpa.org) dedicated to people who choose to see past the statistics and into character traits and personalities.

RPG = Role playing game .... i dont know if you knew , but back in the day people used to actually roleplay in this game, lionna used to be the unofficial roleplaying server.

Meander, we still do role-play. We're on Chronos now, and a slightly smaller community, but we're still here. Come visit us on L2RPA some time!
i have a feeling they have no idea what they gonna do on the 25th yet
normaly they dont announce things so early before time. :)
i think she posted this topic here to see if there are any good ideas to do on the 25th :p
its like a brainstorm session in a meeting hehe

if this is true i realy give a + to the gms.
If its like, they have something in mind but they also want to hear us through our qqing and guessing what we thing would be best is a big plus.
Feedback even if we dont know that we actualy giving it is very important.
I realy prefer gms interacting with the community!
It's up to you to organize roleplay in any game. L2 has never been designed for roleplay, the only thing that's not combat gameplay oriented is merely "being cute". There are other games with proper game mechanics for players to develop roleplaying. And again it's not related to the RPG letters of the game genre, even if it's supposed to stand for "role playing game". In the video game industry, it's been used for something else.

Roleplayers must use what they get, but L2 isn't oriented toward them at all and shouldn't take them into account for the decisions concerning all the players. Neither should they take into account players who only like lvl 1-20 of L2 then delete their character and start over.

Also, to play with friends and have fun, nowadays you have to be at least 76+, and more generally 80+. That's where you find friends to group with. Before that, it's pretty much only solo. If you play once or twice without your daily group before lvl 75, you quickly go out of level range. So I really don't see what you can organize between friends at those levels besides roleplay (very limited here) or fishing.


I also think lvl 79 and less characters should still get the reward even if it's S80 gear, so they have one more goal to reach. However I don't get the tears about XPing too fast. I assume that killing 100,000 mobs solo in Blazing Swamp is a lot more fun than killing 10,000 of them and then go to another place and party with other players.
The level 80 gift is just for level 80 players, but there will be lots of other gifts for everyone. Stay tuned! :)


I don't see what the big debate over this is since Sace said there will be gifts for everyone. I'm not lvl 80 (those very few of you who might maybe kinda remember my name might know that I quit playing l2 quite frequently) but I don't oppose those who are getting a special gift, they deserve it! It’s an event with a little extra special attachment, big deal?

And a little spurt into the roleplaying argument:

I think l2 is much more set up for roleplaying than most mmo's out there. It’s got a much more immersive environment and classic feel then just about anything else. Sure you cant sit on a bench, or do some stupid emote or skin your gear to look a certain way, but all the races are classic and so is the world.. It’s special :)
what about easter event, are we gonna have any?
what about easter event, are we gonna have any?

For those asking for events, Sace said there will be several things this month, including this gift. So one can assume without much trouble that there will be an event of some kind in addition to this gift.
I feel all those that have been playing for more than 11 days are entitled to get this level 80 gift. Even casual players deserve some kind of gift and are entitled to something free for just playing this game!

Oops, that isn't how I really feel. If you aren’t 80 by now, it’s just too bad. If you can’t spend the time to have a character 80, oh well. If you can't deal with the level of commitment required of this game you should find a deck of cards. The sad belief no kid left behind belief sickens me! Not all the kids playing soccer should get a stupid trophy for sitting on the bench. Only losers want everyone to have some medal just for participating in a competitive activity. If you go above and beyond the casual player there are perks, such is life.



*cut*

People also forget one thing, the 80's gift, whatever it is, will be free. No work needed, no event, no quest, no effort. If you don't want it, delete it. If you aren't 80, (like most of my characters), you don't get it; it's one of those things, get over it, move on.

These guys/gals nailed it. Thanks for saying what I felt on the topic, when I could not post :D

I wish I could have given you points (the green dots), but I guess some ppl exploited that system to the point it had to be removed :(
I am going to reply to your post only because I know how much you love a good diatribe.

I wonder what you'd have to say if NCSoft had announced a gift ONLY for those level 85 with 3 level 80 subs.

There have been many things given to others over the years that I was not able to receive. I increased my levels or I got over it.

Since Goddess is ONLY for people who are ready to 'evolve', that's them, and clearly not you by your signature. By your own logic, you deserve no entitlement either, right? Because giving 'gifts' to people for a high level zone coming out should be for those who can start playing those high levels zones only, again, according to your logic?

I am not a tribune for free gifts for everyone, nor do I fill the forums with my desire for something I haven’t worked to acquire. With the exception of magic carpets, I have requested numerous times to have these added and I would work towards attaining them.

Those players already to Goddess levels have a level of commitment you don't share, they deserve a medal you are also going to get arbitrarily. What makes you special enough to say that about others who also aren't at the arbitrary level?

As with any hierarchy, your placement in reference to the others is relevant to the individual. There will always be someone stronger, faster, smarter, richer and uglier (not a reference to you, ofc). Just like and real life, lower class and upper class all depends on where you eat in the food chain.

Given how many players are way ahead of you in levels, you're a casual player too, the 'no kid left behind' you mentioned. Why the insults?

There was no insult intended, you are taking all this way too personal. It was merely a reference to the “No Child Left Behind Act of 2001” (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_Child_Left_Behind_Act) which has caused a belief across so many social pools that everyone should be treated the same. Everyone gets a medal no matter what they actually do.

As for medals and being special in the game, it's already in game. It's called the Olympiad. If you are dedicated and so worthy, you get to be a Hero, get a fancy hero weapon, special hero buffs, and you glow in the dark. If your clan is special, and you are so worthy, your clan owns a castle. There are plenty of things built into the game to designate how special you are, how hard you work.

I never posted that everyone should be Heroes, this is exactly my point. There should only be special rewards for being more than a casual player(define casual however you want).

However, L2 is not counterstrike, it's a real time MMO. Those who are supercompetitive already get rewards in the game, many many types of rewards (boss drops, better gear, hero status, more/better skills, OE, augments, etc)... things that people who are not as dedicated timewise can not get anyway. Does anyone who play for the enjoyment of the game itself get anything ever? No. So why slap them some more?

You state exactly what they should get, your words not mine – only the pure enjoyment of the game.
haha thanks dracha i needed that laugh. Il pm ya in game tying u again cause i wanna talk to u bout this :-P
Originally Posted by Sace
we'll give you some XP-help before the deadline


Forgot it or what? :D
Forgot it or what? :D

Been wondering that myself, we're 10 days after the announcement and 13 days away from the "gift" date and there have been no events other than the occasional gm buffing people in aden
Been wondering that myself, we're 10 days after the announcement and 13 days away from the "gift" date and there have been no events other than the occasional gm buffing people in aden

The last weekend before the ''deadline'' is this one...
There are actually 2 more weekends before the deadline. It's not been forgotten, but the time isn't right yet. Stay tuned! :)
There are actually 2 more weekends before the deadline. It's not been forgotten, but the time isn't right yet. Stay tuned! :)

u told u will help ppl to get lvl 80.. tomorrows maintenance? nothing done for that! other one? in 1 week to lvl 80? x100000 free shard rate? rofl
u told u will help ppl to get lvl 80.. tomorrows maintenance? nothing done for that! other one? in 1 week to lvl 80? x100000 free shard rate? rofl

That's kind of my point, sace said they'd help ppl get to lv 80, yet that takes time, even if you're 79
Maybe ppl could go kill mobs to gain xp right now?

Beats sitting around waiting for NCstaff to wave a wand and make you lvl 80...
There are actually 2 more weekends before the deadline. It's not been forgotten, but the time isn't right yet. Stay tuned! :)

Aha, so it's a weekend event huh? It's then fair to assume that we're looking at a double xp weekend and not a vita-pop event.

Though, feel free to do both.
Maybe ppl could go kill mobs to gain xp right now?

Beats sitting around waiting for NCstaff to wave a wand and make you lvl 80...

yes, they could, but if there are ppl that haven't reached lv 80 in 1+ years, don't expect them to do so in 20 days with no event or external help
pliz sace we dont want shadow items or time items QQ i want a gift can use forever!
I am going to reply to your post only because I know how much you love a good diatribe.


Yep. Way more interesting reading diatribes.

I can see where you perceive yourself in the food chain, not on top but still entitled. LOL!
yes, they could, but if there are ppl that haven't reached lv 80 in 1+ years, don't expect them to do so in 20 days with no event or external help

One could call such ppl lazy.

My clannies call me lazy, but each of my 6 first accounts all have lvl 80 chars.

There really is no excuse for crying about not getting this gift.

They made themselves not be eligable for this.

Their own choice.
what makes me laugh is that every time a gift event or giveaway items are implemented theres so much fuzz about it, ppl start arguing what is ok to have as a gift and what is not ok, is it fair for everyone or as always some are "in favour", deme**** are being made and grotesque requests, everyones acting like their life depends on whatever they gonna get or not get... I wish Sace would slap every each one of ya :D
One could call such ppl lazy.

My clannies call me lazy, but each of my 6 first accounts all have lvl 80 chars.

There really is no excuse for crying about not getting this gift.

They made themselves not be eligable for this.

Their own choice.


I still want the "levelling bonus" they promised, got a couple of subs unfinished.

Anyway (leave every other thought outside), they said they'd help ppl who are not 80 to get to 80, it's hard to do so in 2 weeks time (which is the time left till the 25th)
Why you expect that this leveling bonus will be soooooo great that a person will be able to level from 1 to 80 playing casually couple of hours per day?
It is HELP with leveling, not MIRACLE :)
Only people who are, let's say, 76-79 now, probably will be able to get 80 with that help and it's totally normal.
i am 73 now and its impossible (unless id grind 25 hours a day) to make 80 in this short time without vita pops or such. im down to 0 vitality and almost no money for hourglasses.

please sent out some vitality items so people who havent been playing for 10 years can make it to :D
There are actually 2 more weekends before the deadline. It's not been forgotten, but the time isn't right yet. Stay tuned! :)


Hope you guys won't plan anything for the Easter Holiday weekend :). If it's about some kind of event/help, help us when we can be online !
Mockery. This event is entered when everyone is away on vacation, so very few people to enjoy it, once again congratulations NCsoft.
There are actually 2 more weekends before the deadline. It's not been forgotten, but the time isn't right yet. Stay tuned! :)

Mmmm :) I thought 25th is the next sunday :p
There are actually 2 more weekends before the deadline. It's not been forgotten, but the time isn't right yet. Stay tuned! :)
You can specify who will be the year?
i am 73 now and its impossible (unless id grind 25 hours a day) to make 80 in this short time without vita pops or such. im down to 0 vitality and almost no money for hourglasses.

please sent out some vitality items so people who havent been playing for 10 years can make it to :D

I don't think anyone has played for 10 years actually.
I don't think anyone has played for 10 years actually.


If you count my time in Lin1, my closed beta time, open beta, and opening day time, I have been in the Lineage world 10 years.

Still remember the twins, having 3 dogs, being able to enchant mops as slaves for myself and letting them go in towns :), and pine wands ftw.

Oh, and collecting twigs, lots and lots and lots of twigs from the trees.
Mockery. This event is entered when everyone is away on vacation, so very few people to enjoy it, once again congratulations NCsoft.

You can't be on vacation AND get all the nice stuff ingame. Enjoy your lucky vacation and stop crying. Players who have days off will enjoy the event, players who are working or studying will enjoy the event. Players travelling around the world won't totally enjoy this event. They'll get the lvl 80 gift and they'll have fun IRL, but I assume it's terribly awful, unbearable and unfair.

Send me your money so I can be on vacation all the year. I promise I won't care about L2 events ever.
I have been playing on and off for a year and a half, and have a few lvs over 80 and a third class sub. Exping is easy, even easier in this chronicle. The thing is NCsoft promised help lvling to those who weren't lv 80, and even if you're 79, 2 weeks aren't that big a time to reach the lv required and promised by NC.
If you count my time in Lin1, my closed beta time, open beta, and opening day time, I have been in the Lineage world 10 years.

Still remember the twins, having 3 dogs, being able to enchant mops as slaves for myself and letting them go in towns :), and pine wands ftw.

Oh, and collecting twigs, lots and lots and lots of twigs from the trees.

Same here. I would be close to 10 years if L1 counts! XD

Even with special bonus, I won't be able to make it to level 80. But it is fine, I just take my time to explore and play the game as i like. No need to hurry up just for one gift - a cloak? o.O
Mockery. This event is entered when everyone is away on vacation, so very few people to enjoy it, once again congratulations NCsoft.

I am not on vacation. o_O

Not everyone celebrates easter.
i am not on vacation. O_o

not everyone celebrates easter.


this ! +1
There are actually 2 more weekends before the deadline. It's not been forgotten, but the time isn't right yet. Stay tuned! :)

Well, I have some new player in clan who's level 43 right now. It'll sure be interesting to see who you'll manage to help him getting to 80 in the remaining twelve days. :D
Akjosch, with all my respect to you... Sace promised help, not miracle :)
Akjosch, with all my respect to you... Sace promised help, not miracle :)

Sace cant make exception? Its Akjosch afterall?!
Akjosch, with all my respect to you... Sace promised help, not miracle :)

Well, I'm sure he (as well as several other guys in their 5x, 6x and 7x in Unity ...) would be happy with just help even if it takes more than twelve days of helping ... :)
Aha, so it's a weekend event huh? It's then fair to assume that we're looking at a double xp weekend and not a vita-pop event.

Though, feel free to do both.

No one said anything about it being a weekend event, either. I was just stating that there are 2 weekends before the deadline. :p

Well, I have some new player in clan who's level 43 right now. It'll sure be interesting to see who you'll manage to help him getting to 80 in the remaining twelve days. :D

As someone mentioned, we'll be helping, not instantly converting everyone to 80.

More information will be posted next week, but not before then.
I bet alot of academy toons just lost all hope of getting the gift >.<
Darn, I just started a character 11 days ago and was planning on this event getting me to 80!!!
Dang, that sux mang.

Well, good luck on getting 80.
Well, I have some new player in clan who's level 43 right now. It'll sure be interesting to see who you'll manage to help him getting to 80 in the remaining twelve days. :D
I'm sure there are clans that could manage it without NCsoft's help :rolleyes:
any chance u could change ur sig to unity/naia ?

Whats the point in bickering about something when nobody knows what it will be :-S
any chance u could change ur sig to unity/naia ?

Sure, done. I wasn't aware there was an active clan named "Unity" on Chronos, frankly. :)
Need 190% to 80 and will be gone this weekend.. Hope I'll make it!
Sure, done. I wasn't aware there was an active clan named "Unity" on Chronos, frankly. :)

I wouldnt call it all that active tbh, I think your clan has atleast 3 times the active members of what they have.

And you are also more fun than them.

You might not remember me, but I was Zoonjee, the elven knight in your academy a while back.

Your teamspeak is so not suited for minors lol.
It's been confirmed that, for a character to qualify for the gift, the main class or a subclass must be level 80. :)

<3 Sace <3 :D
I wouldnt call it all that active tbh, I think your clan has atleast 3 times the active members of what they have.

And you are also more fun than them.

You might not remember me, but I was Zoonjee, the elven knight in your academy a while back.

Your teamspeak is so not suited for minors lol.
What are you talking about? Oo everyday minimum 20 member come to play.
What are you talking about? Oo everyday minimum 20 member come to play.

Gotta put in for Server transfer right away!!!
What are you talking about? Oo everyday minimum 20 member come to play.

I was trying to convey the notion that Akjosh's clan is more active than pixies, since I've actually been in ally with pixie and in clan with Akjosh, this would give me some kind of inside information.

As for being able to claim being "THE" unity clan, that goes to Akjosh in my opinion, as he has the more active clan.
Not without a duel first. Give them pistols.
My version of unity is not that active.

I wasnt claiming rights to the name unity lol, but by all means hand me a pistol n watch me shoot myself in the foot ^^
oh dear pixie.

What an unexpected turn of events.
------------~*~Here lies purplepixie~*~-------------
-----------~*~Died from bleeding out~*~-----------
--~*~after amputating the non-gangrenous foot.~*~--

R.I.P. pixie. You will be missed.
Your teamspeak is so not suited for minors lol.

and your point is.. you should come on our vent after I had few "heal pots" (aka vodka screwdrivers) in me.
and your point is.. you should come on our vent after I had few "heal pots" (aka vodka screwdrivers) in me.

No point for you.

The comment was directed at Akjosh, who I have shared Teamspeak channel with in the past.

You on vent must be kinda boring:

Cabbie: brb gotta find an unrelated pic.
It's starting to become reaaaaallly long to wait....

So please lift a tip of the veil, drop hints or somthing like that about the gift.

And certainly say somthing about how u will plan to help players to level, wich type of system did u think off ?

And a request, whatever u do to help players level, make it a 24/7 event so everyone can do it.
Have you read the hole thread? It's allready been posted that more info will be coming next week. Personally I wish it was starting now since next week is spring break.
Have you read the Whole thread?
*fixed*

Im more interested on the "exp help" than on whatever gift we are getting since, odds are, it will be something with no functionality at all.
Last hint before you get the whole story: "the gift item will give your character stats and an awesome appearance."

More information about the XP help will be given next week, not before. Getting close! :)
O.o

cloack? :D
Last hint before you get the whole story: "the gift item will give your character stats and an awesome appearance."

More information about the XP help will be given next week, not before. Getting close! :)
You are evil :D
anakim transformation spellbook?
Bamboo hat that can self cast Prophecy of fire / Chant of victory / vitality