WTB Majestic Plate Armor Set

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I know you're sws. Just out of curiosity, why majestic? Tallum is the best A grade set especially if you have to kill mobs yourself, not only sing for party.
Maybe she sees many stun mobs in her future?
Maybe she sees many stun mobs in her future?

Smittie, you can read my minds:eek:

SwS = Elv = Gets easy stunned =///
Its hard to kill fast if stunned =/
In maj dps will be low. I exped my swm sub in tallum set and still using it to exp my tank sub to 80 lvl :)
It's your decision ofc, but if you want to solo maj set will slow you down.
In maj dps will be low. I exped my swm sub in tallum set and still using it to exp my tank sub to 80 lvl :)
It's your decision ofc, but if you want to solo maj set will slow you down.

comparing tallum vs mj heavy in terms of time spent killing the mob:

mobs: 10000
time to kill with tallum: 10sec
chance of getting stunned with tallum: 30%
stun time: 3sec

time to kill with mj: 10.08sec
chance of getting stunned with mj: 15%
stun time: 3sec

please remember that the time you are stunned your not dealing any dmg

time to kill 10000 mobs with tallum = 109000sec
time to kill 10000 mobs with mj = 105300sec

it takes exactly 61 less minutes to kill 10000 mobs with mj than with tallum. considering you are killing mobs that stun ofc.

NOTE: Im not even considering the 4% increase in patk from mj heavy.
Where did you get the numbers for killing mob and time spent stunned?

Or you just making them up?

Coz at least the stun time would differ in maj vs tallum. It reduces the length of the debuff... and is the whole point of actually wearing maj.
I assumed that I took 10sec to kill a mob and that that mobs would stun me for 3sec on a 30% chance.

Where did you get the numbers for killing mob and time spent stunned?

Or you just making them up?

Coz at least the stun time would differ in maj vs tallum. It reduces the length of the debuff... and is the whole point of actually wearing maj.

in terms of time spent stunned getting stunned its the same, but if mj reduces the chance of getting stunned and also the time of the stun:

lets say you get stunned 50% less times for 50%less time each time, being this way the result is: with majectic you take 10.08sec(8%more time than with tallum) base to kill get stunned for 15% chance of 1.5sec each time

killing 10000 mobs with mj takes 99 less minutes than with tallum.

this is a lab test considering that you kill the first 10000 mobs with tallum armor and then switch to mj and kill another 10000 mobs.

tallum:
time to kill 10sec
chance to get stunned: 30%
time of stun: 3sec

mj
time to kill 10.08(10+8%)
chance to get stunned: 15%(30-50%)
time of stun: 1.5(3-50%)

for theese values, mj > tallum vs killing stunner mobs, that tend to stun you in a regular basis, 30% of the time, lets say.
Using your made up example yes. But it's just made up numbers.

What if we change a few numbers?

Stunned in tallum 8 sec.

Stunned in maj 2 sec.

What happens then?
Using your made up example yes. But it's just made up numbers.

What if we change a few numbers?

Stunned in tallum 8 sec.

Stunned in maj 2 sec.

What happens then?

same 10000 mobs
30% chance to get stunned for 8sec, 10sec to kill - tallum
15% chance to get stunned for 2sec, 10.08sec to kill - mj

killing with mj would take ~337minutes less.

mj reduces both the chance to get stunned and the stunned duration by 50%, correct?
no need to assume/speculate anything here.. check your DPS with l2calc, just try out different weapons/armor/bufs etc. and see what works best..

http://l2p.planet.ee/l2calc/
no need to assume/speculate anything here.. check your DPS with l2calc, just try out different weapons/armor/bufs etc. and see what works best..

http://l2p.planet.ee/l2calc/

that calculator does not take in consideration the time you spent stunned, and that, affects dramasticly your dps, so it does not apply to this situation... I guess.
What about atk.spd increase from Tallum set? Time to kill mob should differ in different sets.


Majestic Heavy Set
+4% P.atk
+3 Accuracy
+50% stun def
+2 STR / -2 CON


Tallum Heavy Set

+8% atk.spd
+5759 weight limit
+80% Poison, Bleed def
+2 STR / -2 CON


I like DD build on SwS. It means SA focus, augment with something for crit.rate (I was lucky to get passive focus) and set for better dps. I believe that SwS' strength is in crits. Higher atk.spd => more hits you make => more chance to get critical hit.

For me the fact that I am able to kill captains in fort in tallum but not in maj says a lot. Regen hp is easier with frequent crits and higher atk.spd.
What about atk.spd increase from Tallum set? Time to kill mob should differ in different sets.


Majestic Heavy Set
+4% P.atk
+3 Accuracy
+50% stun def
+2 STR / -2 CON


Tallum Heavy Set

+8% atk.spd
+5759 weight limit
+80% Poison, Bleed def
+2 STR / -2 CON


I like DD build on SwS. It means SA focus, augment with something for crit.rate (I was lucky to get passive focus) and set for better dps. I believe that SwS' strength is in crits. Higher atk.spd => more hits you make => more chance to get critical hit.

For me the fact that I am able to kill captains in fort in tallum but not in maj says a lot. Regen hp is easier with frequent crits and higher atk.spd.


If you look at the calculations, you can see that i added 8% more to the time it would kill the mob when changing from tallum to MJ, and about the criticals, yes, that is correct, if your not fighting mobs that stun, as i already mentioned, if your not fightning stunner mobs Tallum > MJ.

If you are stunned you can have 1k atk speed and 400crit, you will kill faster with mj for the simples fact that you get stunned 50% less of the time for 50% less times.
Tallum has some nice atk.speed stats i agree in this point,
but i cant agree with the texture of the tallum =/
This armor looks realy ugly:rolleyes: I get eye cancer when i have to see till Lv76:rolleyes:
i want wear my armor with proud:cool:

And the stats of the majestic plate armor are ok for me,
because there is nothing which i hate more as to be
stunned and unable to do nothing >_<

The majestic protects me from the worst fun killer number 1..."STUN",
i guess i will have a nice time with this armor XD

Fot atk.speed i count on my Dual Keshanberks♥
For critRate i count of Song of Hunter♥
never argue with good looks.

i know a number of employers that don't hire based on intelligence.

if you're going to be stuck with the same group of people everyday for the next few years you want them to be beautiful.

specially when you work in the cosmetics industry (which i do)
if you're going to be stuck with the same group of people everyday for the next few years you want them to be beautiful.

lol, that could be my words xD
i like to use makeup too sometimes, a smooth skin texture is a nice thing, the same for the game, a nice armor texture is a nice thing xD
Those calculations are nice, but you won't (or try not to) hunt mobs that can stun when you doing pve in tallum hvy
never argue with good looks.

i know a number of employers that don't hire based on intelligence.

if you're going to be stuck with the same group of people everyday for the next few years you want them to be beautiful.

specially when you work in the cosmetics industry (which i do)

wow
Jenica, you're for the other half of mankind then :D
I like how Tallum looks on elves, I subbed SwM for that reason and I hate those shoulder pads that Majestic has, to my mind they are the ugliest part of this game : ))