Please come and Watch siege at 9pm eastern time on dion siege grounds and watch 1 clan dominate by using super skills without clicking a button. it is amazing spectacular that just can't be missed. don't really have to say what clan, all you have to do is watch and see the magic happen. You will know right off the bat the dominate clan just by the way cp pots go off and perfect targeting towards healers right after heals are made leaving the opponent heal less. Please come and watch the most perfect clan in lineage 2 ever built with the least amount of effort towards PVP and dominate. This is a spectacular player based event that GM's should be honored to watch.
With this player based event, You will have the pleasure of seeing and hearing the hero's speak there mind while using there super mental skills spamming cp pots all at the same time. These hero's are the best of the best and are in the best interest of the lineage 2 community. So come on out and view this spectacular event, it is obviously an eye full.
Please come and Watch siege at 9pm eastern time on dion siege grounds and watch 1 clan dominate by using super skills without clicking a button. it is amazing spectacular that just can't be missed. don't really have to say what clan, all you have to do is watch and see the magic happen. You will know right off the bat the dominate clan just by the way cp pots go off and perfect targeting towards healers right after heals are made leaving the opponent heal less. Please come and watch the most perfect clan in lineage 2 ever built with the least amount of effort towards PVP and dominate. This is a spectacular player based event that GM's should be honored to watch.
With this player based event, You will have the pleasure of seeing and hearing the hero's speak there mind while using there super mental skills spamming cp pots all at the same time. These hero's are the best of the best and are in the best interest of the lineage 2 community. So come on out and view this spectacular event, it is obviously an eye full.
Please come and Watch siege at 9pm eastern time on dion siege grounds and watch 1 clan dominate by using super skills without clicking a button. it is amazing spectacular that just can't be missed. don't really have to say what clan, all you have to do is watch and see the magic happen. You will know right off the bat the dominate clan just by the way cp pots go off and perfect targeting towards healers right after heals are made leaving the opponent heal less. Please come and watch the most perfect clan in lineage 2 ever built with the least amount of effort towards PVP and dominate. This is a spectacular player based event that GM's should be honored to watch.
With this player based event, You will have the pleasure of seeing and hearing the hero's speak there mind while using there super mental skills spamming cp pots all at the same time. These hero's are the best of the best and are in the best interest of the lineage 2 community. So come on out and view this spectacular event, it is obviously an eye full.
It's a lil late....should ask on a week day when GM's that can do something about it are live.
On a side note there are a few other clans on the same server they could watch also. The scrip might not be as good but they are users too.
It was fun watching a whole party of rdogs at the aden siege break off from active pvp with camelot and jump the western wall to kill fame farmers. Exquisite timing!!!
It was fun watching a whole party of rdogs at the aden siege break off from active pvp with camelot and jump the western wall to kill fame farmers. Exquisite timing!!!
Ya it brought a tear to my eye tbh lol. Almost as pro as the single target nukes against toons in hide.
I'm fairly sure this would require more than just copy and pasting as to say it probably wouldn't happen. Unless someone that seems to really care like Sace or Moxie. But nevertheless none of the GM's play the game anyway.
they just cant do something cause their orders from Moxie/korea or w/e i dont know is that.just check the bi-anual cestus questions about pvp cheaters and u ll understand.
their "policy" atm against pvp cheaters(70% of ppl majority imo) of each server is just watch them,not even warning them no matter if is hero/clan or simple random player,end of story get used with that as we did with exp bot so many years
I dont think that theres that much ppl using these programs that are made for morons that cant play the game.But however when you say it is majority ncsoft is backing up and not doing what they are supposed to do.It was being said that if the bots are gone game will die.Is it dead now?Look at the random parties going atm,compare to bot times and you ll get the answer.NC should either ban all those handless idiots or make it free to use for everyone.It is getting more and more stupid to pvp this way.But as always comunity managers are playing 3 monkeys in this matter...
I personally get the same 125 dead or alive on the castle grounds... not sure about what lope has experienced.
Obtaining Personal Reputation Points / Fame
• Castle Siege War – Every 5 minutes you get 125 PRP, up to max 2.875 PRP for a siege. You only get them while being on the battlefield your clan is registered on as either attacker or defender. Leaving and re-entering the battlefield will reset that 5 minute counter.
• Fortress Siege War – Every 5 minutes you get 31 PRP, up to max 341 PRP for a Fortress Siege. Same rules as for a Castle Siege apply.
• Clan Hall Battle – Every 5 minutes you get 75 PRP, up to max 825 PRP for a Clan Hall Battle. Same rules as for a Castle Siege apply.
• Territory War – Every 5 minutes you get 125 PRP, up to max 1.375 PRP for a Territory War. Same rules as for a Castle Siege apply.
• Underground Arena - First win gets you 80 PRP. Any follow up win gives
2 ~ 5 wins: 85, 90, 95, 100 PRP
6 ~ 10 won rounds: 102, 104, 106, 108, 110 PRP
11 and above: 111, 112, 113 … PRP
So a 5 winning streak results in: 80 + 85 + 90 + 95 + 100 = 450 PRP
• Festival of Darkness – Members of the top parties from the last competition period gain 1.080 PRP.
• Olympiad – You can exchange Noblesse Gate Passes into Personal Fame at a 20:1 ratio.
You can’t do it any other time… wait you have a point here. The siege should be some random day and time selected at the whim of the attacking force. The defending side has a few hours warning that a pending attack is mounting in the nearby town and must rally the troops to fight off the surprise attack.
They didn't watch, oh well. Your right no GM plays or at least don't do sieges. If they did hey surely would be on the team that is so good they use mind control skill to setoff cp and targeting. Surely if they where on losing side, GM god mode on instant removal of mind control skill users. I don't get it. I think we all should be able to have mind control skills if GM's don't have no plans to nerf this skill. But hey GM's say gather players to help get the menace out. The Chonos server has tried, yes the whole **** server and failed as what i seen in sieges. So now what GM's? Will you allow evening the playing field, or simply let the player base choose so you yourself can pick and choose players at your desire? prejudice if you ask me. All GM's would have to do is simply watch Siege's and temp get rid of the players for remainder of siege. Now that would be in the best interest of the lineage 2 community and fix alot of problems. All major events everywhere have ref's and or police to keep everything clean. just like any paid event we the player base demand overview of lineage 2 events such as Territory Wars and Sieges.
I wonder if the assumption by the GM Team is if since we can't detect it therefore its legit?
Cant detect ? They detected my fame farmer, level 48 laying dead in the siege in common c armor and no weapon as being a bot and they cant detect PvP programs ? When others can ?
One thing is certain, the orders not to ban bots are not coming from Korea. If Korea knew what is going on here and why they lose so much money in this rat hole, they would have sacked everyone, including the doorman.
Does anyone know some big shot in Korea to ask him to read the forums here ? Or watch sieges ? Asking GMs wont do anything, they do watch sieges and ban, I was banned on the spot for laying dead in common C armor and talking in clan chat, so they do ban, but you have to be a "troublemaker" someone who "rocks the boat". Yet not everyone is unreasonable there, Will did check the logs and revised the procedure, I fear he wont stay long, is too competent.
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Cant detect ? They detected my fame farmer, level 48 laying dead in the siege in common c armor and no weapon as being a bot and they cant detect PvP programs ? When others can ?
One thing is certain, the orders not to ban bots are not coming from Korea. If Korea knew what is going on here and why they lose so much money in this rat hole, they would have sacked everyone, including the doorman.
Does anyone know some big shot in Korea to ask him to read the forums here ? Or watch sieges ? Asking GMs wont do anything, they do watch sieges and ban, I was banned on the spot for laying dead in common C armor and talking in clan chat, so they do ban, but you have to be a "troublemaker" someone who "rocks the boat". Yet not everyone is unreasonable there, Will did check the logs and revised the procedure, I fear he wont stay long, is too competent.
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what was wrong with you laying on the siege field?
what was wrong with you laying on the siege field?
I would post some hilarious mails I received but is not allowed. Well, I was having massive lag and that failed some verification they do. Nobody really checked the facts, like what kind of char, what actions is performing, if any. They have some interrogation, perhaps for gg to check if it replys, but since i was on GPRS and atom computer in the mountains, the reply came too late as sometimes the chat appeared after more than a minute in clan chat, ppl areaady moved to another topic till my reply was coming :P
But they did say they improved their procedure to give less false positives, so they do check, they do know, other jurisdictions are banning, here they dont unless you protest against the bots, so watch out.
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It was fun watching a whole party of rdogs at the aden siege break off from active pvp with camelot and jump the western wall to kill fame farmers. Exquisite timing!!!
You get the same fame dead or alive. Be happy they didnt fear you off the wall.
No pretending involved. I see an incorrect statement and react.
There was nothing incorrect about my statement. Try again.
ignore the fact the OP directed the post to a single castle/event, just make it so that it applies to all sieges/tw + Olympiad and watch the shift in power balance as the pr0 handless ppl will be useless then.
again this doesn't just apply to clans like Nova who are being singled out here but ALL clans as a matter of fact I know of several clans that broke the ULA way before Nova left Bartz server that are now part of the "QQ bad Nova crew"..
open your eyes and be honest and say either get rid of all pvp prog cheaters etc. or don't bother at all.
I find it amusing how everyone should turn their eyes to nova and calmy ignore all the other clans who run into the siege field using programs, so we should focus on the ones who know how to cheat better and not on all those who cheat?
No pretending involved. I see an incorrect statement and react.
Once again, you make no sense. Why would anyone (especially an afk fame farmer) "cry" about getting killed at a siege, when they lose exactly 1 crp, 0 xp, and gain 2750 fame (which equals to 137 CRP)?
Yet you forgot to explain why would an active pvper (as opposed to fame farmers) deliberately leave his spot in the middle of a battle and run off the wall just to kill a harmless afk-er? Do you imply that the urge to score a +1 CRP (as well as a few extra fame points) on a free kill outweighs any other duties? (You know, fighting the opposing clans, trying to take or defend the castle, stuff like that.)
I always enjoy watching some "pro pvper" fall off the wall in the middle of a sige and land right on me with 0 hp (or get stuck in the cliffs).
Note that I am not just sitting there afk to farm fame, I take it as "setting up a trap": I know there's no other way out from my favorite fame-farming spots other than soe'ing.
And I also know it's pretty hard to spot me there from the siege field, so, whenever someone finds me down there, I wonder what helped them.
P.S. Let's make a poll regarding Smittie's next comment. Will it be something like
"No, no, they just have an outstanding eyesight and targeting skills"
or
"Ever heard of target macros???"
Way to distort people's comments and turn them upside down.
To refute your demagogy, let me repeat this real slow:
cheaters suck so much that they resort to cheating
ban every cheater because they ruin the game for the rest of the community.
Fair enough?
Some people on the official forums act like they can never accomplish anything by themselves and just complain ABOUT EVERYTHING.
Let's see, have YOU ever accomplished anything? In game at least? If yes, why don't you tell the names of the characters you've ever played? Inquiring minds want to know: what fate befell them?
I feel bad for mods on this forum like Sace.
So do I.
I guess, policing the forums and editing people's messages has always been their top priority, compared to updating the site or addressing certain issues (commonly known as "beating a dead horse") properly.
Once again, you make no sense. Why would anyone (especially an afk fame farmer) "cry" about getting killed at a siege, when they lose exactly 1 crp, 0 xp, and gain 2750 fame (which equals to 137 CRP)?
Yet you forgot to explain why would an active pvper (as opposed to fame farmers) deliberately leave his spot in the middle of a battle and run off the wall just to kill a harmless afk-er? Do you imply that the urge to score a +1 CRP (as well as a few extra fame points) on a free kill outweighs any other duties? (You know, fighting the opposing clans, trying to take or defend the castle, stuff like that.)
I always enjoy watching some "pro pvper" fall off the wall in the middle of a sige and land right on me with 0 hp (or get stuck in the cliffs).
Note that I am not just sitting there afk to farm fame, I take it as "setting up a trap": I know there's no other way out from my favorite fame-farming spots other than soe'ing.
And I also know it's pretty hard to spot me there from the siege field, so, whenever someone finds me down there, I wonder what helped them.
P.S. Let's make a poll regarding Smittie's next comment. Will it be something like
"No, no, they just have an outstanding eyesight and targeting skills"
or
"Ever heard of target macros???"
:D
If you were afk farming fame, how did you spot ppl running towards you instead of doing their "other duties"?
Way to distort people's comments and turn them upside down.
To refute your demagogy, let me repeat this real slow:
cheaters suck so much that they resort to cheating
ban every cheater because they ruin the game for the rest of the community.
Fair enough?
Let's see, have YOU ever accomplished anything? In game at least? If yes, why don't you tell the names of the characters you've ever played? Inquiring minds want to know: what fate befell them?
So do I.
I guess, policing the forums and editing people's messages has always been their top priority, compared to updating the site or addressing certain issues (commonly known as "beating a dead horse") properly.
Even if you ban all cheaters, logic still dictates that one person must win the fight in a siege, someone will get the castle. Whoever dont get the castle still has a tendency to call ppl names and cry "cheaters!" at the top of their lungs. In between sniffing and crying ofc.
So even if you ban all the cheaters, ppl will still not be happy.
If you were afk farming fame, how did you spot ppl running towards you instead of doing their "other duties"?
A few times, I happened to not be afk while fame farming (since reading all the trash talk in hero chat was entertaining enough to keep checking the screen).
In other cases I woke up in the morning, checked my damage log and wrote down the names. Finding out what clans they belonged to was not too hard. (I must reveal, they were neither from Polaris nor Core... odd huh?)
Even if you ban all cheaters, logic still dictates that one person must win the fight in a siege, someone will get the castle. Whoever dont get the castle still has a tendency to call ppl names and cry "cheaters!" at the top of their lungs.
So even if you ban all the cheaters, ppl will still not be happy.
Looks like noone wins.
A classic example of demagogical substitution of notions you have there.
So, let us not mix two completely different matters.
Trash talk and complaints have always been a natural and inevitable part of any game.
Cheating is not a part of the game, therefore it must be eradicated.
You can win by outsmarting your opponents, outnumbering or outleveling them, it's all good as long as it's done within the set rules. Should someone still want to whine a little, it won't harm anyone.
Let's see, have YOU ever accomplished anything? In game at least? If yes, why don't you tell the names of the characters you've ever played? Inquiring minds want to know: what fate befell them?
yes ive played since beta casually. Gone to a bunch of raids, Killed Antharas / Valakas , every raidboss in game.Gotten hero 25 times. Released over 17 fraps of epic pvpz. I have had all the epics and gear i ever needed. And im not complaining about it on forums to mods, because simply i have enjoyed my l2 expierence to the fullest. and if the game ended 2morrow i would not complain :)
A classic example of demagogical substitution of notions you have there.
So, let us not mix two completely different matters.
Trash talk and complaints have always been a natural and inevitable part of any game.
Cheating is not a part of the game, therefore it must be eradicated.
You can win by outsmarting your opponents, outnumbering or outleveling them, it's all good as long as it's done within the set rules. Should someone still want to whine a little, it won't harm anyone.
I could care less about what you wanna do with cheaters. I'm simply informing you that even if there were no cheat programs, or they were all blocked somehow, ppl would still call others cheaters, because it's in their nature to do so. They simply cannot suck at the game, it must be you that cheat.
Do you understand now? Or should I babelfish/googletranslate it to russian?
I could care less about what you wanna do with cheaters. I'm simply informing you that even if there were no cheat programs, ppl would still call others cheaters.
I could care less about who called what. Cheats are the problem, namecalling is not.
Remember what this thread is about?
Do you understand now?
Yes I understand what you're doing, I just can't understand your reasons: are you aimlessly trolling due to having too much time on your hands, or are you trying to derail the thread on purpose? Are you getting paid for that?
Classic examples of demagogy:
Poster 1: "I've witnessed a cheater kill people with the help of 3rd party programs."
Smittie: "OMG someone complained about getting killed."
Poster 2: "Cheaters suck, that's why they have to cheat to win."
Smittie: "You're just complaining about someone who's better than you."
Poster 3: "Cheaters should be banned."
Smittie: "Even if you ban all cheaters, people will still complain and call names."
See what you did there? Nice try replacing the real problem (pvp cheats) with the made-up one ("someone's gonna be unhappy no matter what").
Do you also insist that the police should not catch criminals because someone (including the criminals themselves) would be unhappy no matter what?
are you saying they arent cheating? they are just ultra skiled?
if so thats exactly what OP said: to quote:
Sunday May 22, 2011 Chronos Server
Please come and Watch siege at 9pm eastern time on dion siege grounds and watch 1 clan dominate by using super skills without clicking a button. it is amazing spectacular that just can't be missed. don't really have to say what clan, all you have to do is watch and see the magic happen. You will know right off the bat the dominate clan just by the way cp pots go off and perfect targeting towards healers right after heals are made leaving the opponent heal less. Please come and watch the most perfect clan in lineage 2 ever built with the least amount of effort towards PVP and dominate. This is a spectacular player based event that GM's should be honored to watch.
With this player based event, You will have the pleasure of seeing and hearing the hero's speak there mind while using there super mental skills spamming cp pots all at the same time. These hero's are the best of the best and are in the best interest of the lineage 2 community. So come on out and view this spectacular event, it is obviously an eye full.
just another example of a person wanting everything handed to him. Cant win siege, ban every1 because i suck. Cant win pvp, Give me a free boss jewl.
Some people on the official forums act like they can never accomplish anything by themselves and just complain ABOUT EVERYTHING.
I feel bad for mods on this forum like Sace.
That's right, pretend to be blind, always the same excuse, you know **** well it's all about the 3rd party pvp progs, stop masking it, it makes you look dumb as if it's only about being good or bad.
That's right, pretend to be blind, always the same excuse, you know **** well it's all about the 3rd party pvp progs, stop masking it, it makes you look dumb as if it's only about being good or bad.
thats great coming from the leader of deathwish. u never even put up a war on sayha. U never even tried to pvp, how could u possibly know what makes the difference between pvpers when u have never even pvpd urself.
what does it prove? pvp's can be padded by wars just as much as levels can be padded with bots.
i dont understand what PVP score has to do with anyone's self-worth in L2 anyhow. your primary list of fulfilled goals which you posted previously started out with "killed every raid boss" instead of "started a war with every clan imaginable and won 3" which only tells me PVP score is a minor, downplayable non factor score.
thats great coming from the leader of deathwish. u never even put up a war on sayha. U never even tried to pvp, how could u possibly know what makes the difference between pvpers when u have never even pvpd urself.
post ur pvp score.
see..., again about who's good and who's bad, it's not about that, it's about the use of 3rd party software in sieges.
also, recheck the politics ingame, i've never been clanleader of deathwish ;)
EDIT:
the clanleader of deathwish and my own pvp skills are about equal.
Please come and Watch siege at 9pm eastern time on dion siege grounds and watch 1 clan dominate by using super skills without clicking a button. it is amazing spectacular that just can't be missed. don't really have to say what clan, all you have to do is watch and see the magic happen. You will know right off the bat the dominate clan just by the way cp pots go off and perfect targeting towards healers right after heals are made leaving the opponent heal less. Please come and watch the most perfect clan in lineage 2 ever built with the least amount of effort towards PVP and dominate. This is a spectacular player based event that GM's should be honored to watch.
With this player based event, You will have the pleasure of seeing and hearing the hero's speak there mind while using there super mental skills spamming cp pots all at the same time. These hero's are the best of the best and are in the best interest of the lineage 2 community. So come on out and view this spectacular event, it is obviously an eye full.
Dont worry nobody comes,a specially GMs=they dont care