Kamael classes in GoD

Can anyone tell me what each kamael class should be awaken to?
<--- doombringer here

Doombringer - Warrior, Soulhound - Mage, Trickster - Archer, Judicator - Enchanter

Dude, give me a break, if there's no tank kamael...then..why does it have the kamael tank picture when you open the "Goddess Of Destruction" client?
i dont really seem to get why...kamael warrior with shield?

after you awake you can pick w/e class you want , so kamael can aweke in tank

after you awake you can pick w/e class you want , so kamael can aweke in tank

I don't think that will be true.

mercifool: Now that Kamaels are losing all their uniqueness in classes and weapons will you allow them to choose classes from other races as subclasses?
HJH: Kamaels will not be able to subclass as other races. However, Kamaels will maintain the uniqueness with their PvP superiority. from Development Team Q&A - Answers! post http://boards.lineage2.com/showthread.php?t=216011

Other race cannot subclass as a Kamaels as well. Unless when you pick a 'tank' at awakening, and all your Kamael's subclass is going to be deleted o.O

@HangetsuxX: Don't you know L2 always do false advertising? Just look the videos that they made lol

Add: Gametsg (http://gametsg.yatta.com.tw/lineage2/index.php?view=article&articleid=323503&viewboard=1) just posted some info about Stone of Destiny. It mentioned an example of Kamael (trickster changing to tank with Stone of Destiny)

舉例：
闇天使é*”彈射手自由覺醒成騎士， 就會擁有「闇天使戰士」的å…*大 ç´*質 ， 身上 技能會變成聖凰騎士 的技能。
矮人工åŒ*自由覺醒成巫師， 就會變成「矮人法師」的å…*大ç´*質， 身上技能會變成大é*”導士的技能。

I'm going to read a bit more about the whole GoD subclass thing before translating that, as it doesn't really make any sense to me at the moment... lol

To my current knowledge and after a lot of thinking about what to turn my Kamael into it seems that they are more difficult than the other races and still somewhat restricted.

I'll try to explain where I arrived at so far, hope it'll be useful for others.

To my knowledge, both this:
Doombringer - Warrior, Soulhound - Mage, Trickster - Archer, Judicator - Enchanter

and this:
after you awake you can pick w/e class you want , so kamael can aweke in tank

are correct, you may also want to consider:
Everyone will get a subclass change ticket for every subclass they have when this update goes live. You can change any or all of your subclasses to different ones of the same level and exp. Example: You can change your lvl 73, 45.32%, BD sub to a lvl 73, 45.32%, SpS sub.

and its source:
Yes, completing the awakening quest gives you a "Stone of Destiny" (http://boards.rochand.com/viewtopic.php?p=658#p658) which lets you communicate with a Giant Archetype other than your own class. And yes, in Korea they will reset all sub skills and give one subclass change (http://boards.rochand.com/viewtopic.php?p=1182#p1182) per subclass you have.

as well as:

mercifool: Now that Kamaels are losing all their uniqueness in classes and weapons will you allow them to choose classes from other races as subclasses?
HJH: Kamaels will not be able to subclass as other races. However, Kamaels will maintain the uniqueness with their PvP superiority.


OK, so far with the main sources.
Now to me - in combining these - that means:

Yes, you can choose to awaken your Kamael into whatever other class would normally be inaccessible to you:
Tank, Dagger, Summoner, Healer

However, you can only choose your subclass to be one that will be a continuation of a legal Kamael subclass, that is:
Warrior, Archer, Mage, Enchanter

In addition to that, it implies that you will only be able to choose Enchanter as your subclass if you have all three possible subclasses and are Judicator at level 80 - as using the "subclass change" with less than 3 subclasses and choosing Judicator for one of them would not result in a valid status.

Further to complicate the issue is the fact that Kamael before awakening can only wear light armor, however several of the classes or subclasses they may choose to awaken into would prefer heavy armor or robes.

There is no problem in R-grade, as you can already see all the sets on Kamaels( robe, light, heavy) ... however it is very unlikely to have access to an r-85 grade set already at the point of awakening, leaving you with the necessity of wearing a lower grade set, most likely Vesper or Moirai, but eventually Dynasty or IC/MA.

On the first PTS it looked( video) as if those choices were completely forgotten about and/or had no textures (http://boards.rochand.com/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=108), so:rolleyes: i can only hope that the developers will start to become aware of the issue - there is apparently some evidence in the patchnotes for the June,01 2nd PTS that mentions Kamaels and S-grade armor (http://boards.rochand.com/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=11&start=332).

Kind regards.

I don't think that will be true.

from Development Team Q&A - Answers! post http://boards.lineage2.com/showthread.php?t=216011

Other race cannot subclass as a Kamaels as well. Unless when you pick a 'tank' at awakening, and all your Kamael's subclass is going to be deleted o.O

@HangetsuxX: Don't you know L2 always do false advertising? Just look the videos that they made lol

Add: Gametsg (http://gametsg.yatta.com.tw/lineage2/index.php?view=article&articleid=323503&viewboard=1) just posted some info about Stone of Destiny. It mentioned an example of Kamael (trickster changing to tank with Stone of Destiny)



I'm going to read a bit more about the whole GoD subclass thing before translating that, as it doesn't really make any sense to me at the moment... lol
i dont talk about subclass , i talk about your kamael is 85 you do the awekening quest , you get Stone of destiny form the quest and this stone of destiny allow you to aweke to w/e class you want , subclasses have nothing to do with this

there is apparently some evidence in the patchnotes for the June,01 2nd PTS that mentions Kamaels and S-grade armor (http://boards.rochand.com/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=11&start=332).

I have read the subclass info and the new 1st June pts patch note changes. Kamael will be able to wear S grade and above heavy, light, and robe armors; except all textures will be in light armor form.

I will translate the whole thing from http://gametsg.yatta.com.tw/lineage2/index.php?view=article&articleid=323503&viewboard=1 which was translated from the KR L2 Wiki:

透過命運之石，玩家可在覺醒時 自由選擇任何想要覺醒的職æ¥*。

毀滅女神改版時，76 以上所有角色 可獲得一顆命運之石。

Through Stone of Destiny, players can freely choose any class to be awakened during awakening process. When GoD launches, all 76 and above players will receive 1 Stone of Destiny.

命運之石為 任務道具

當玩家完成「超越命運」覺醒任務後 ， 帶著命運之石前往巨人之墓時 ， 就可自由跨職æ¥*進行覺醒。

透過命運之石自由覺醒後 ， 玩家å…*大 ç´* 質與身上的技能 ， 都會重置為以下相關狀況：

Stone of Destiny is a quest item. When the player finishes the "Beyond Destiny" quest, take the Stone of Destiny to Giants Cave; then they can freely choose any class for the awakening. If player utilises Stone of Destiny for a unrestricted awakening, their 6 basic status and all skills will be reset as follow:

E.g. GK awakens as Healer. Skills will reset to Cardinal (2nd/ 3rd class) skills, their basic status will reset to Orc mage stat. (more examples below)

（與之前官方 QA 隨便舉例有些出入，以æ*¤ç‚ºæº–）

覺醒職æ¥* (Awakened Class)/自由覺醒後體質 (Basic status after unrestricted Awakening)/自由覺醒後重置技能 (Skills reset as after unrestricted Awakening)
騎士 (Knight)/戰士體質 (Fighter)/聖凰騎士 (Phoenix Knight)
鬥士 (Warrior)/戰士體質 (Fighter)/決鬥者 (Duellist)
遊ä¿* (Rogue)/戰士體質 (Fighter)/冒險英豪 (Adventurer)
弓手 (Archer)/戰士體質 (Fighter)/人馬 (Sagittarius)
召喚 (Summoner)/法師體質 (Mage)/祕儀召主 (Arcana Lord)
巫師 (Wizard)/法師體質 (Mage)/大é*”導士 (Archmage)
治癒 (Healer)/法師體質 (Mage)/樞機主教 (Cardinal)
法師 (Enchanter)/戰士體質 (Fighter)*/æ˜*聖者 (Hierophant)
*so seems like enchanters are going to be getting fighter's status after all

透過命運之石自由選擇覺醒職æ¥* 不會改變種族特性與種族特色技能

舉例：
闇天使é*”彈射手自由覺醒成騎士 ， å°± 會 擁有「闇天使戰士」的å…*大ç´*質 ， 身 上 技能會變成聖凰騎士的技能。
矮人工åŒ*自由覺醒成巫師，就會變成 「 矮人法師」 çš„å…*大ç´*質 ， 身上技能會變成大é*”導士的技能。

Through unrestricted Awakening by using Stone of Destiny, it will not change the race characteristic and the special racial skills.

For example: 1) Trickster awakens as a Knight. They will still have Kamael fighter basic status, but will obtain Phoenix Knight skills. 2) Maestro awakens as a Wizard. Their basic status will be changed into Dwarf mage basic status, and they will obtain Archmage skills. (my opinion: I am not sure whether NCsoft is trying to balance the game as they said they want to, because it surely seems like they made everything a lot more complicated with GoD awakening system than it is right now!! lol)

雙主職æ¥* 狀態下選擇覺醒職æ¥*時，將 無法使用命運之石自由轉職。
듀얼 클래스가 각성 클래스 ì„*택 ì‹œ 운명 초월 이벤트는 ì*ìš©ë˜ì§€ 않는다.
å›*為雙主職æ¥*是在主職æ¥*覺醒後才有 可 能變成雙主職æ¥* ， å›*æ*¤æœ¬æ®µæ‡‰è©²ä¹Ÿå¯ 解 釋成第二主職無法自由覺醒。
不過官方有另外給予副職æ¥*變更特典 ， 應該沒什麼差。（話說回來副職æ¥*變 æ›´ 特典還沒公佈細節）

當玩家完成覺醒任務後，不論有沒有 使 用命運之石，命運之石都會消失。

Under dual-main class situation [http://gametsg.yatta.com.tw/lineage2/index.php?view=article&articleid=321858&viewboard=1 explained a bit about dual-main class], players cannot use Stone of Destiny for unrestricted class changing. (don't speak Korean... :p) Because dual-main class can only be done when the first main class is awakened. Hence, it can be said that the 2nd main class cannot utilise Stone of Destiny for unrestricted class changing. Nevertheless, subclass exchange tickets will be given to players; therefore, it doesn't really matters. (The officials haven't mentioned any details about the subclass exchange ticket yet.) No matter if the Stone of Destiny is used or not after the Awakening quest (1st main class), the Stone of Destiny will disappear.

Source: http://power.plaync.co.kr/lineage2/ and http://gametsg.yatta.com.tw/lineage2/index.php?view=article&articleid=323503&viewboard=1

Enjoy ;)

so you can awaken to whatever you want but it would be lunacy to do so. dwarves were not fit to be mages.

i dont talk about subclass , i talk about your kamael is 85 you do the awekening quest , you get Stone of destiny form the quest and this stone of destiny allow you to aweke to w/e class you want , subclasses have nothing to do with this

Before the info about Stone of Destiny, it seems like you use it to change class (race). However with the info now, it seems like NCsoft even complicated the game by allowing Kamael, Orc, Dwarf basic status Tank/Enchanters/Wizards/Rogue/Archers (apply to any that doesn't exist right now, e.g. dwarf/ orc/ kamael base status with phoenix knight skills). Can L2 get any weirder? lol :D

Subclass still effects what the main class can be. By using the Stone of Destiny, they have removed the racial restrictions when choosing a main class (i.e. LE <- cannot sub -> DE); and like the sub-to-main, you cannot change your main to a DE/LE when you have another sub that is in either LE/DE. Nevertheless, the new subclass restriction NC added is that you cannot have a main+subclasses in the same archetype (can only pick 4, main and 3 subs, from the 8 class archetype).

For example, HangetsuxX is a Doombringer (Warrior), hence his subclass will be Archer, Mage, and Enchanter. Because of the class archetype restriction, HangetsuxX will not be able to choose a new main by using Stone of Destiny to become another Archer, Mage, or Enchanter; only Warrior, Knight, Summoner, Healer, and Rogue. As HJH said in the interview HJH: Kamaels will not be able to subclass as other races. However, Kamaels will maintain the uniqueness with their PvP superiority.

Therefore, the only thing left is to have the official release info about how the subclass exchange ticket works. So for me, I guess I will have to change my DC sub first before I can awaken my HP main... QQ

so you can awaken to whatever you want but it would be lunacy to do so. dwarves were not fit to be mages.

That's why they have a basic status for every race in fighter and mage in GoD...

http://gametsg.yatta.com.tw/lineage2/index.php?view=article&articleid=321739&viewboard=1

The first table is for fighters, second table mages. It goes from Human, Light Elf, Dark Elf, Orc, Dwarf, Kamael.

So if people become an awakened dwarf mage, their base stat will become:
Str 40, Dex 24, Con 42
Int 82, Wit 72, Men 81

Awakening system...


y u make human always best ?

Through Stone of Destiny, players can freely choose any class to be awakened during awakening process. When GoD launches, all 76 and above players will receive 1 Stone of Destiny.
Will it be possible to level a dorf mage (or chicken tank or whatever else) from lvl 1 after the GoD starts? Or is it just an one-time opportunity?

Will it be possible to level a dorf mage (or chicken tank or whatever else) from lvl 1 after the GoD starts? Or is it just an one-time opportunity?
Good question, if the stone of destiny is a permanent game feature (i.e. you can start a new character half a year after GoD goes live and then still choose whatever awakening class you want when you reach 85), or if it is a time-limited option, like back when you could choose whatever subclass skill you wanted, but only as a special event for a short time after that expansion went live. If I had to guess, it will probably time-limited, just to make those players happy who do not like what their old main will turn into after the awakening quest.

*so seems like enchanters are going to be getting fighter's status after all

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