Some months ago i tried to OE an Dark Screamer to +7, used 135 EWC and didnt got even one Dark Screamer to +7
crafted long back ~ 120 Dyn Hvy Armors (Boots, Helm, Gaiter, Gauntlet) and got no rare one
and my favorite: 39 crafts to get a rare vesper Gauntlet, 46 to get a rare helm, while a friend had 4/5 craft success on Robe Gloves incl. rare one and 8/10 success on Boots incl. rare :eek:
friend of mine who has long since quit, got 2 arthro nail regular item drops (before the days of common items) within 2 mobs. i went out there seeing nothing but dollar signs, and within 2 mobs i got pk'd.
I hit lvl 81 last week, and decided to OE my Life cubic which was +9, to put it +10
I have spent 45 millions of SP on it, and I never managed to get it +10 (with 80+ success rate each time)
One day ( in 5 mins ) bought 15 boxes of magic ornament ( 16 tw badges each) open all and only 1 give me 1 sealed mid a grade ornament! Ofc it disappear after unseal! Then almost 10 more tries and no ornament! 25 boxes = 0 ornament...
Clan member in his first try took,from one belt box, one S and one A grade belts!
I hit lvl 81 last week, and decided to OE my Life cubic which was +9, to put it +10
I have spent 45 millions of SP on it, and I never managed to get it +10 (with 80+ success rate each time)
I've done a lot of that lately >< sometimes even blows in high 90% on first try to get it back up :/
Bad luck using bews too and since it takes all +'s it costs a lot to get it back lol :p I think it should be like using a mastery and you don't lose all the +'s when it fails :(
Pretty good luck on crafting, my ws crafted a full mw bw set :D although after like 20 trys on boots I bought a pair mw, then decided to use up the last couple recipes and the next one mw'd lol
The dev's have a mean sense of humor I think :eek:
I failed 10 out of 11 Moirai jewelry crafts (including 9 fails in a row).
70% success rate, my ***.
With Moirai armor, it was something like 5 successes out of 12.
Attribute stones and crystals tended to work like this:
fail fail fail success fail fail fail fail fail fail fail success success success success success
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Since the "Korean Random" is not really random (it's just poorly programmed, in fact), I guess it should be easily expoitable. It benefits rich people with unlimited resources: they can do enough experimenting and figure out how it works.
But if you are poor, it works against you: if you stop every time after an initial sequence of failures (e.g., when your first crafting attempt always fails, or when you fail 5 or 10 attribute crystals in a row) you may end up wasting infinite amounts of resources. So, don't try it until you have a lot of items to use them all at once.
Crafted two complete Morai robe sets and one Morai heavy set without any failures. Back in the 'Dynasty crafting times', it took me 4 tries to get the Dynasty leggings...That's when Ori's were over 10kk a piece :s
Failed 2 skills at lvl 84 in a row, 99% success rate
Failed more stones on one of my hammer than I did crystals.
Crafted 29/31 S grade jewels, but failed 6 Elysians in a row.
I failed 10 out of 11 Moirai jewelry crafts (including 9 fails in a row).
70% success rate, my ***.
With Moirai armor, it was something like 5 successes out of 12.
Attribute stones and crystals tended to work like this:
fail fail fail success fail fail fail fail fail fail fail success success success success success
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Since the "Korean Random" is not really random (it's just poorly programmed, in fact), I guess it should be easily expoitable. It benefits rich people with unlimited resources: they can do enough experimenting and figure out how it works.
But if you are poor, it works against you: if you stop every time after an initial sequence of failures (e.g., when your first crafting attempt always fails, or when you fail 5 or 10 attribute crystals in a row) you may end up wasting infinite amounts of resources. So, don't try it until you have a lot of items to use them all at once.
you are right that korean random is not real random but even those pseudorandom functions are hardly exploitable in envinroment like mmo game, i doubt you are able to do thousands of enchants within second etc
and now, those things you say about sequences etc are about as true as enchanting in church or after relog etc
On topic, in L2 I was more or less avg lucky, even tho failing 4 maj helmet crafts when maj helmet was super expansive and hard to get hurted. Failing whole (except pants) dynasty set (first dynasty set craft on teon) hurted also. And tons of skill enchant fails like 3 +1in row on 85lvl etc.
Onthe other hand in Aion, i still hold record in number of failed expert quest attempts QQ
I can't top any of the previous posters ( I guess only playing for a few months hinders your moments ) but I'd have to say the letter event and getting nothing but collector gifts on all my turn-ins while the guy standing next to me gets a boss jewel.
I can't top any of the previous posters ( I guess only playing for a few months hinders your moments ) but I'd have to say the letter event and getting nothing but collector gifts on all my turn-ins while the guy standing next to me gets a boss jewel.
and my favorite: 39 crafts to get a rare vesper Gauntlet, 46 to get a rare helm, while a friend had 4/5 craft success on Robe Gloves incl. rare one and 8/10 success on Boots incl. rare :eek:
Isnt Korean Random some to love/hate ? :rolleyes:
Still jealous? You forgot 1/3 crafts Dynasty Stockings rare ;))
When I was quitting the game once, I dumped all my cash trying to OE some D grade weapons. Tried to OE 11 weapons. 2 got to +5, 0 to +6.
In happy news, during my last L2 play session (2 years back) I took all my hard earned 140m adena to craft a forgotten blade back when they were going for 250m+. The craft went through and I was rich!!! That was my first craft ever. The second one succeeded too so I finally broke the 500m line after a bit more selling.
When I was quitting the game once, I dumped all my cash trying to OE some D grade weapons. Tried to OE 11 weapons. 2 got to +5, 0 to +6.
In happy news, during my last L2 play session (2 years back) I took all my hard earned 140m adena to craft a forgotten blade back when they were going for 250m+. The craft went through and I was rich!!! That was my first craft ever. The second one succeeded too so I finally broke the 500m line after a bit more selling.
Out of 15 crystal attempts on a 195, then 200 element Icarus Trident I failed 14.
Am so disgusted by it, I'm honestly losing interest in the game. That's roughly the same chances (depending on how you guess the success rate) as flipping a coin 11 times and getting heads every time.
It's stupid. The random number generator is clearly not a uniform distribution.
Out of 15 crystal attempts on a 195, then 200 element Icarus Trident I failed 14.
Am so disgusted by it, I'm honestly losing interest in the game. That's roughly the same chances (depending on how you guess the success rate) as flipping a coin 11 times and getting heads every time.
It's stupid. The random number generator is clearly not a uniform distribution.
flipping coin 11times and getting heads is still pretty real, low chance (like 0.05%?) but pretty real when ppl used insane amount of crystals and there are crapload of ppl using them
and you cant judge anything about distribution uniformity from 11 or 15 etc number of attempts
When I was level 82 I aoe'd in GC for 2hrs and got 9 element stones and 4 full dynasty drops (sigil, boots, helmet and shield). Since then (roughly 5 months later) I've gotten 0 full drops.
17 earth crystals fail in a row (gracia)
20+crystals succed in a row (hi5 last)
5 succed vesper cutter in a row,the last was foundation(gracia final)
2 dark screamer +15 in a row(both failed to +16) (hellbound)
I used to have a character on my account that couldn't do a single successful weapon enchant. Not one +1 could he manage. All of my other characters on the account were aces, but that one toon was abject failure & futility in pixel form. After about 8 months, I washed my hands of him and deleted him.
Having said that, yes, I know that enchants don't work that way. Success or fails aren't tied to characters, but to the scrolls themselves. But as with any gamble and risk taking, eventually superstition gets embedded...and one of my working myths/beliefs is that some toons are just bad voodoo when it comes to enchants. ;)
Not that long ago I wanted to collect all pets, so I started doing "Little Wing" quest to get a Twilight Hatchling as I was missing one.
I've done the the quest around 40 times and hadn't gotten any. I've tried all the quest paths but it didn't help, always either Star or Wind :)
A word of advice - if you ever want a Twilight Hatchling, buy it or get it through Territory War rewards.
Not that long ago I wanted to collect all pets, so I started doing "Little Wing" quest to get a Twilight Hatchling as I was missing one.
I've done the the quest around 40 times and hadn't gotten any. I've tried all the quest paths but it didn't help, always either Star or Wind :)
It worked as intended, the chance to get a Twilight hatchling is extremely low.
12 crystal fail in row
23x NM LA fail (including 11 in row), in C5
4 days spoiling doom heavy armor 60% recipe (1/150) and fail of course.
6x fail skill from +0 to +1 on 85lvl in row (97% chance)
enchanting doom heavy to +6? wasted about 60 BEABs and its only +6554.
Long time ago:
I failed about 60elemental stones to get 1x60 element in my Dynasty Boots - Gracia Final
I failed with crafting Vesper Heavy Set, I got 1 gauntlets or boots after 7fails, every try costed me ~100mil, now it is 8kk on market for part...