Lin][age been one, if not the last, MMO which features true AOEing of MOBs.
Anyone got solid (or rumors) information about the AOE possibility in G.O.D.? Maybe a Youtube / Yatta link? :D
I know the new Warrior class retains and gains a few "AOE" attacks, but judging from the change in VR (trigger chance?) and the new "Instanced" Game Experience it seems like no one really needs true AOE capabilities. Hitting 3 to 5 mobs in a "trash pull" isn't really AOE.
Will G.O.D. be the end of the Dreadnought / Titan / Pole Gameplay?
This kinda worries me, especially no new AAA Generation MMO really features AOE.
Lin][age been one, if not the last, MMO which features true AOEing of MOBs.
I know the new Warrior class retains and gains a few "AOE" attacks, but judging from the change in VR (trigger chance?) and the new "Instanced" Game Experience it seems like no one really needs true AOE capabilities. Hitting 3 to 5 mobs in a "trash pull" isn't really AOE.
Will G.O.D. be the end of the Dreadnought / Titan / Pole Gameplay?
This kinda worries me, especially no new AAA Generation MMO really features AOE.
Thanks, a concerned DN.:o+1 I'm wondering about this aswell.
Dagga, that video only shows mage aoe (looks the same as it is now), any melee aoe video's around?
I lost count how many times that has been said before.
mby u right,but look now,only 2 servers left and population decrease vvvvery fast.....half of my clan quited in last 2 months
atm i pay 6 accounts but in GOD tha 6 accounts will not be needed anymore since all buffers merge in one,so i will pay only 2
many ppl are in same situation and i dont think ncsoft will like when they will lose a lot of subscritions
mby u right,but look now,only 2 servers left and population decrease vvvvery fast.....half of my clan quited in last 2 monthsYeah ppl wouldn't believe me (among others) that population would decrease after the last server merge, but those haven't witnessed the 1st server merge i guess.
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atm i pay 6 accounts but in GOD tha 6 accounts will not be needed anymore since all buffers merge in one,so i will pay only 2
many ppl are in same situation and i dont think ncsoft will like when they will lose a lot of subscritionssame here, only below 85 it will still help, but after that they're just too much
-1 for generalisation of several classes.
Not so sure as some of you about the decrease. Its a pretty major update, and already I've seen the server on "normal" status more than I'm used to seeing; probably mostly from people who try to XP up for GoD.
mby u right,but look now,only 2 servers left and population decrease vvvvery fast.....half of my clan quited in last 2 months
atm i pay 6 accounts but in GOD tha 6 accounts will not be needed anymore since all buffers merge in one,so i will pay only 2
many ppl are in same situation and i dont think ncsoft will like when they will lose a lot of subscritions
Nuku has right.
We get in the last years always some black prophecy, but the game still work. The population may decrease, but how do you know, that will it decrease in the GD too?
Well about your box subscription calculation I can say it is not, sure, that you have 100% right.
Now many players quit because they don't get party, because a part of players has boxes like u have 6 boxes too, it is mean you don't need 5 players in the party and may these 5 players leave the game for this reason.
Anyway I think when will necessary the NCwest will change to F2P payment system too, because honestly they have only really constant money from the Lineage 2, AION and City of Heroes. The Guild Wars 1 & 2 just leech the money from the NCsoft if we watch to long time.
We saw not only one time, that an MMO was in big trouble was near to close, but after some good payment system changes solved the all problems (Like Dungeon and Dragons Online, Lord of The Rings Online etc)
You musn't forget that the "Lineage II" title and trademark is well know and successful at world wide you can't compare these to Tabula Rasa, Auto Assault, Exteel or maybe Lineage 1 (L1 only is really successful in Korea and Japan).
As we can see from now highest part of peoples like the GD update, so I think it won't decrease the population.
Well atleast Naia has lot lesser ppl around as pre-merge or shortly after.
It was like 3,5k after the merge. Last time i checked it showed 1,5k at the weekend. Only time Naia gets around 2k is when tw/siege weekend is.
Just check how empty giran is now. Even Aden has not rly a big amount of shops anymore.
Yesterday was a hero shout "lf 9 vs 9 any Clan, even mixed or untagged."
Alone in the clan i am like 20 ppl are gone in the last 3 weeks (ofc some decrease is due summer as every year). W/o a change we will have a hard time till GoD. And then GoD must be rly good + huge advertising that we get the nice old gamefeeling back.
Well atleast Naia has lot lesser ppl around as pre-merge or shortly after.
It was like 3,5k after the merge. Last time i checked it showed 1,5k at the weekend. Only time Naia gets around 2k is when tw/siege weekend is.
Just check how empty giran is now. Even Aden has not rly a big amount of shops anymore.
Yesterday was a hero shout "lf 9 vs 9 any Clan, even mixed or untagged."
Alone in the clan i am like 20 ppl are gone in the last 3 weeks (ofc some decrease is due summer as every year). W/o a change we will have a hard time till GoD. And then GoD must be rly good + huge advertising that we get the nice old gamefeeling back.
- Peoples get maximum level by many XP event.
- this Period is the exam time many peoples study now.
- We have summer now, peoples spend less time with play Lineage 2.
- Peoples get good gear not need far for better just in the GD.
- Peoples not XPing not farming they don't left the peacuful zone so no PVP too, so who search pvp just login lesser time.
- Now, that we have Nevit bonuses many peoples who XPing or farming just login mostly under the effects of Nevit buffs.
So yes by this way peoples find lesser fun in the game so a part of them decide to make brake or maybe quit.
This is the reason why I say don't do double XP anymore it was quite enough. I remember in May when was the 7th birthday event Naia had Normal traffic too or after it too.
So NCwest decided to next double XP event the effect of it:
- Who got the 85 or 80+ may make break in the game.
- But these peoples will can return with high chance because they will get instant the new contents.
- Until the Goddess of Destruction we will have much lower server population 100% sure, if the NCwest don't make higher promotions, events (except XP events) or make the game to F2P.
Guys before the GD NOT IMPORTANT how many the server population the important how it will change after it, I think know that the NCsoft too.
GoD will bring back every player that left L2 cause xp was to much hard. Has you saw on the video after 1 week the player is already 92, a never saw in L2 history.
GoD will bring more pvp too because clan cannot say anymore " i don't accept the war but we will continue to break their *** " , they will need to wait 7 day to /defeat and be again in peace but an other clan will war them etc etc etc. The pvp Era .
Stuff will be easier to get too.
Player that has left the game was for differant raison ( lack of pvp , lvl too hard without boting , only superior clan can have epic boss and enjoy all the game , etc ).
When GoD will be laught, am sure lot will come back
GoD will bring back every player that left L2 cause xp was to much hard. Has you saw on the video after 1 week the player is already 92, a never saw in L2 history.
GoD will bring more pvp too because clan cannot say anymore " i don't accept the war but we will continue to break their *** " , they will need to wait 7 day to /defeat and be again in peace but an other clan will war them etc etc etc. The pvp Era .
Stuff will be easier to get too.
Player that has left the game was for differant raison ( lack of pvp , lvl too hard without boting , only superior clan can have epic boss and enjoy all the game , etc ).
When GoD will be laught, am sure lot will come back
I dont think so.... only F2P bring old and new ppls into game
I dont think so.... only F2P bring old and new ppls into game
my dear friend.
You have right in 50% and not right in 50%.
-Nowadays it become soon a standard option, that a MMO is F2P, the players world wide wait soon from a game, that it would be free to everyone, the Lineage II still P2P, but soon this system won't work (not only at the L2 will same soon in the WoW or AION etc too).
I have a youtube channel it seems work better and better I would promote it as another youtube fan channel do it like "click here to register and play for free", I can do it, but I have to write "click here to buy it and play for 15$ per month".
I think you all feel the difference.
- You haven't right, because many players played any payed for this game under many months or much of them for many years. So I think they will pay for this game again if they want play with it.
But an important difference before and after the GD:
Before:
The P2P is good deal because now many peoples pay for dual boxes too.
After:
Players wont pay for dual box only the good deal to them the Item Shop, but of course we aren't crazy if NCwest want item shop they have to forget the monthly payment.
A good tip to the NCwest in the future:
The Lineage 2 is like a drug may the game f2p and a new player at the first month just spend 5$ in the item shop, but has high chance, that this player will spend after half year about 50$ too to get different extra clothes, pets etc to his character.
Not so sure as some of you about the decrease. Its a pretty major update, and already I've seen the server on "normal" status more than I'm used to seeing; probably mostly from people who try to XP up for GoD.
I have at least two friends who have come back recently, because of the upcoming update, but how long they stay who can really say. and they aren't active daily anyway.
for sure NC will lose a lot of money from ppl closing box accounts because they won't be needed. I only pay for 2 atm and that's plenty. I own many more accounts but they've been inactive for very long time because I don't have any need for them and no time to play more stuff anyway.
also I agree that L2 is addictive, if you make it free to play to get people "hooked", probably will be much easier to get them to stay and pay for items and would build the population instead of losing it. would mean more $ for NC in the long term
also I agree that L2 is addictive, if you make it free to play to get people "hooked", probably will be much easier to get them to stay and pay for items and would build the population instead of losing it. would mean more $ for NC in the long term
haha I just remembered how many times you tried to quit ;)
The changes of GoD are a lot more radical than previous updates, so you can't really compare. Ok it's useless to say "omg L2 will diiiiie", but let's face it : it smells like an infamous SWG (RIP) update which wounded the game a lot.
About the reduction of classes and what's needed for a party, I'll wait to see it working before saying it will solve the problem of players not getting parties, because that's a change of mentality.
About the PvP being more scarse nowadays, unfortunately even with more players in GoD, it would still be worse, as the new war system and the instanciation of PvE will reduce PvP more than a lack of players.
I think we risk losing more players from the war system turning PvP battlegrounds-like (only siege and TW) than by the dumbed down class system. So I hope there will really be old players coming back (I doubt it, people have changed with time). And about new players, how can it happen with no communication and still the heavy reputation of a botland?
haha I just remembered how many times you tried to quit ;)
I was only close to quitting once, but I'm well addicted to this game no worry!
well another issue with the update is that the current paradigm with many clans is all people are in "constant" parties with only all the same people all the time. what happens when 2 people get left out and/or others have to reroll some totally different class? it's going to mess up a lot of things, and be a big adjustment for everyone who stays. I think it will be better for the random pick up parties tho as we will only need one buffer and healer instead of 3-4 per party so there will be relatively more of them for all the DD types.
war system will be interesting; on the one hand since you lose full xp anyway it will basically only give you free pass to attack unflagged ppl while it is up, otherwise it will no different than pvping non-warred people. on the other hand, if xp is so easy, no one should really care about the xp loss from pvp anyway, so might it increase pvp then? for those that want it. if you want pvp you flag, if not you don't. clan wars will be nearly obsolete really. we currently have multi-way pvp between a mix of clans with and without wars, so it's whatever.
The class/party system requires a change of mentality that's obvious, but it concerns 85+, because all classes are still separated before. Why? Nowadays clans tell you to solo 1-78 to get in a party, in GoD it seems it'll be solo 1-85. That's not cool.
The war system isn't interresting. You say it yourself, it becomes obsolete. There's a reward to get : will you gamble it if that doesn't give you anything more? No. Clans will war 5 alt clans that will declare defeat and the rest of the PvP will be red wars. It's a lot more simple than trying to war the previous warred clans.
But eliminating the PvP on XP spots by making it annoying (yeaaah red agaiiin) helps the system of pick-up parties too. That's why all in all, players are saying it's becoming a carebear land where everyone groups with anyone, and see you this week-end for PvP on the siege, teehee!
And frankly, that's the feedback I'd like from the Koreans : what has become PvP?