Questions for destructor regarding GoD

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First of all I want to thank you for providing us with information regarding GoD. I have been reading all your posts on the forum and I really appreciate the insights you have provided us with. Also I have been searching a lot for information regarding GoD on google - even translating foreign sites with google translate. However I do have a few questions that I was hoping you might be able to answer.

I understand that you probably get hundreds of questions so I will also respect if you chose not to reply here.

1) We have been reading about all the new skills the awakened classes get but will we get them all at once or will we get them as we proceed through the levels 85 to 99? I guess my main concern is that you might have an essential skill now before awakening that will not get a replacement skill till you are maybe level 95 for instance.

2) Much related to question 1 how often do we get new skills as we level from 85 to 99? It was always a good thing about Lineage 2 that you had nice skills to look forward to. Is this still the case in your eyes that you strive to get those nice skills at higher levels?

3) Regarding the new items. You have said in another post that it is easier to get at least decent R gear in GoD. The best is still hard to get as I understood but can you shed some light on how it is that it is easier to get gear? I always found it hard to provide enough adena to buy nice gear.

4) There are some new dungeons. Is that the way to get gear? Much like in Aion and other MMOs where you go through a 1 party dungeon where the bosses drop armor and weapons?

5) Jump. Is it completely overpowered and is it making PVP worse? I remember thinking that flying was so cool in Aion but it really messed up PVP for me. The ballance between ranged and melee classes was screwed by flight in my eyes.

6) The mounts for the 8 classes that we are supposed to get once you get awakened. Are they really useful or is it like striders today that don't really get used? How do you see that the mounts fit into the game?

7) Class composition in groups. I play a healer myself (EE). My concern is that too many people will chose healers once they get a free choice when awakening. Groups only take 1 healer in GoD I guess and that could make it harder for healers to get groups? Today you often both take a recharge and a healer. In GoD that will be just 1 class. How do you see the class usefulness and distribution where you play?

8) Solo play vs. clan play. Right now it is ok to be alone and just get in random groups. The new party system also seems to be catering this type of play. Can you achieve decent gear and levels being alone or is a clan essential for that?

I am sorry for asking so many questions but I am really looking forward to this expansion and very eager to get information on what to expect.

I hope you have some spare minutes to help me out. Thanks a lot in advance.

/Vith
Hey hey! I haven't played the Korean Lineage 2 PTS nor Live for God but I do some of your answers. Let me tell you what do I know:

1 and 2) Just like your 3rd class transfer, after you Awake you will have some skills to learn. As you proceed on your way up to level 99, each other level will unveil new skills. I guess this is Class related but, i.e. Tyr Warrior has skills at levels 85, 89, 91, 95, 99 and may have other levels. While you grow up and learn those skills you will lose some older ones. I didn't see that happen but my guess is to learn Rogue's "Plunder", a dwarf Rogue would lose Spoil and Sweeper related skills. I've also heard that some skills are gone once you Awake already.
You also automaticaly learn your race skills once you awake.

3) When it comes to buy items with adena instead of crafting, it all depends on the market. I think that by "easier to get" they meant that R-Grade items would require less things to Craft, thus being easier to spot low and mid R-Grade Equipament. May be the drop rate for Whole Items and Materials is higher.

4) Sorry, don't know anything about this point.

5) Jumping is more-or-less like Gatekeeping to the point that you may choose routes (but Jumping is not Porting!), There are "Jump Routes", points where you can begin to "Jump" to another place along that route. Some routes has multiple ways and you choose where do you like to go in Mid-Air (which is really cool!). It's not like you can just "Jump" anytime anywhere.

6) Sorry, don't know anything about this point.

7) From your question, Korean Community is way different from NA Community. While there they may treat this or that class as needed, here it may be underused. PP is a great example, as people in Korea don't think it is useless much as people here do. From a personal point of view, 2 healers would still be needed, because I'm guessing you would still need recharge when you healed enough, unless you can recharge yourself, but that would be wrong in a gameplay view, as it would make healers endless powerhouses (Heal, Recharge, repeat and you become a machine gun :)).

8) Sorry, don't know anything about this point.


I hope I helped and if I stated something wrong, someone that has the actual info please forgive me and correct me.

Thanks,
Luxiel
I can response about the mount i guess.

The mount is an transpho to increase your spd , it will be same samething then the event where we was able to mount horse.

in other term , its like a car for Awakened player , no need to give them food . to equipe them etc as like the striders, its only a kind of transpho
Most of Luxiel's answer is correct.

1) We have been reading about all the new skills the awakened classes get but will we get them all at once or will we get them as we proceed through the levels 85 to 99? I guess my main concern is that you might have an essential skill now before awakening that will not get a replacement skill till you are maybe level 95 for instance.

You loose some of your old skills as soon as you awaken even before learning any new skills. Most of your current passive skills would also be gone.
(ie: I lost my disarm as soon as I awakened. I lost my mass disarm as I learned a new skill.)
As you level up, you learn new skills that would replace your existing old skills. You can choose not to learn, but the new skills are way more powerful than the old ones.. Haven't seen anyone keeping the old skill yet.
There are some new skills for the toons prior to awakening also, make sure to check the skill tree to learn them.
(ie: SD and SWS will learn new song/dance skills that won't need each other., Yes, they both learn same new skills that combines song and dance. Another word, they become alike even before the awakening after the GOD.)
You don't have to see your master anymore to learn new skills.

2) Much related to question 1 how often do we get new skills as we level from 85 to 99? It was always a good thing about Lineage 2 that you had nice skills to look forward to. Is this still the case in your eyes that you strive to get those nice skills at higher levels?

Luxiel answered you this question.

3) Regarding the new items. You have said in another post that it is easier to get at least decent R gear in GoD. The best is still hard to get as I understood but can you shed some light on how it is that it is easier to get gear? I always found it hard to provide enough adena to buy nice gear.

Easier to craft, more drop ratio. 'Unidentified' items drops very often.

4) There are some new dungeons. Is that the way to get gear? Much like in Aion and other MMOs where you go through a 1 party dungeon where the bosses drop armor and weapons?

Each dungeons and hunting area drops different grade gears. Anywhere you go, you will loot something.

5) Jump. Is it completely overpowered and is it making PVP worse? I remember thinking that flying was so cool in Aion but it really messed up PVP for me. The ballance between ranged and melee classes was screwed by flight in my eyes.

The jump attack skill of the Tyr Warrior is a chain skill. It's not always available. It gets triggered and you have to use it as a chain skill. Pretty useful. Not overpowered, just a new skill.
Edit: I had forgot about the super jump attack skill that I had used a lot in lvl 87, or was it 88... there is a jump attack skill. Think of it as a new rush impact of the doombringers w/o stun. I had forgotten about that...

The big jump that Luxiel has mentioned is for travel. Think of it as a flying in Aion that you do from town to town.

6) The mounts for the 8 classes that we are supposed to get once you get awakened. Are they really useful or is it like striders today that don't really get used? How do you see that the mounts fit into the game?

Did you like the vitamin horse that NC gave you guys for 7 days? Then you'll love them. It's faster. If the skill is used, you can reach the maximum movement speed of 300.

7) Class composition in groups. I play a healer myself (EE). My concern is that too many people will chose healers once they get a free choice when awakening. Groups only take 1 healer in GoD I guess and that could make it harder for healers to get groups? Today you often both take a recharge and a healer. In GoD that will be just 1 class. How do you see the class usefulness and distribution where you play?

That's just your opinion that too many will choose the healer, not a fact. Some say too many will choose the iss enchanter, some say tank.. not a fact. We don't have any problem setting up a party.
All the numbers you guys calculate are not realistic because not all players log on at same time.

We don't mind taking 2 or 3 healers. We just don't have any problem setting up a hunting party that you guys have. We don't have a concept of 'constant' party..

Many times I see either 2 iss enchanters or 2 healers in the party.

8) Solo play vs. clan play. Right now it is ok to be alone and just get in random groups. The new party system also seems to be catering this type of play. Can you achieve decent gear and levels being alone or is a clan essential for that?

Both are fine. I think group hunting has little bit more advantages.
Hey destructor!

Thanks for your answers and correcting.

A little question: I'm a healer in main and intent to Awaken as such. Aeore Healers can recharge themselves and/or each others? Can they recherga and/or be recharged by EE/SE/Holy Pomandered Cardi?
Thanks for answers destructor :)


Did you like the vitamin horse that NC gave you guys for 7 days? Then you'll love them. It's faster. If the skill is used, you can reach the maximum movement speed of 300.


So the old 250 cap is lifted to 300 /o/ May be cap for Casting speed & atk speed will change too !
Thanks for answers destructor :)



So the old 250 cap is lifted to 300 /o/ May be cap for Casting speed & atk speed will change too !

Are you mad?!?!? OMG can't imagine a dagger hitting faster than that...it's just bizarre!
(ie: I lost my disarm as soon as I awakened. I lost my mass disarm as I learned a new skill.)

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Thank you all for the replies.

Add question 7 about group composition. I do not know facts no and I might as well be wrong. I just wanted your input on group composition as you could fear that some classes would be over represented. So thank you for that. :)

Add question 8 about the mount. Nice thing that its a skill. I read that it lasts for one hour so thats long enough to get you around. Is there a cool down on it though so you have to use it wisely and only when absolutely needed?

Thanks a lot for your help. It was very informative.
sorry nvm
Hello destructor,

my Question goes about Current Skill OE.

What kind of reward do the players get for the Skill OE they have before awakening?
I know that when they awaken the Skill OE will be gone (will ALL skils be +0 then or just the skills that get replaced?).
But what is the reward if for example someone has a +11 skill and for like a +20++ OE skill?
There are rumors around, that they get the new awakend mastery books, but couldnt find a confirmed source.

TY for ur answer and the time.
Hello destructor,

my Question goes about Current Skill OE.

What kind of reward do the players get for the Skill OE they have before awakening?
I know that when they awaken the Skill OE will be gone (will ALL skils be +0 then or just the skills that get replaced?).
But what is the reward if for example someone has a +11 skill and for like a +20++ OE skill?
There are rumors around, that they get the new awakend mastery books, but couldnt find a confirmed source.

TY for ur answer and the time.

Hi Dreamer

You get new items to use to OE the new skills based on how many OEd skills you have from before the awakening.

If you read this thread i think you will find all the answers:

http://boards.lineage2.com/showthread.php?t=217055
TY Vithina, somehow i must have missed it (and that with all my time spend on the boards :eek: )
Than I post some questions too.

1. How do you think Destructor what is the hardest part of the Goddess of Destruction?

2. Will be many opened instance Raid Bosses with useful drop what for we can do pvps?

3. What is the new features in the GD what will can change or disappear in the upcoming updates after the GD?

4. What do you (or the Korean peoples) missing mostly from the High Five and earlier parts?

5. How big was/is the Goddess of Destruction's success in Korea? A popular western MMO site wrote, that the number of players drastically grew up since the GD start and I saw some Korean net caffee statistics what show the Lineage 2 popularity again growing very fast. How do you experienced that and what is the situation now?

6. The currenty armor sets (mostly I think to full attributed or rare or OE sets) and weapons how much useful in the GD?
Thank you all for the replies.

Add question 7 about group composition. I do not know facts no and I might as well be wrong. I just wanted your input on group composition as you could fear that some classes would be over represented. So thank you for that. :)

Add question 8 about the mount. Nice thing that its a skill. I read that it lasts for one hour so thats long enough to get you around. Is there a cool down on it though so you have to use it wisely and only when absolutely needed?

Thanks a lot for your help. It was very informative.


No delay on reusing the horse. You can be on and off as many times and often as you want. Once you are on it, it last up to 1 hr if you don't dismount.:D
Than I post some questions too.



1. How do you think Destructor what is the hardest part of the Goddess of Destruction?

Would be hard to answer this one since everyone has different opinion. It depends on the concern of each players.
Other may not care about what you are concerned about, Others may care abouth what you don't care about.
Thus, what you'd feel tough would mean nothing to some others where it's would also be the other way around.

2. Will be many opened instance Raid Bosses with useful drop what for we can do pvps?

Because of the time allowed for me to play, I haven't really participated in any raids so far. But I do see many party matchings on the matching system that I am not awared of.

3. What is the new features in the GD what will can change or disappear in the upcoming updates after the GD?

This had been mentioned a lots of times on another thread or on the official boards. Too broad to pick an answer for this question.

4. What do you (or the Korean peoples) missing mostly from the High Five and earlier parts?

Been too busy learning and enjoying the new stuffs, didn't have chance to miss about what we used to have in H5 or from earlier on.
When new comes, the old is forgotten, often too quickly..

5. How big was/is the Goddess of Destruction's success in Korea? A popular western MMO site wrote, that the number of players drastically grew up since the GD start and I saw some Korean net caffee statistics what show the Lineage 2 popularity again growing very fast. How do you experienced that and what is the situation now?

I'd say very successful so far.
After all, it's very user friendly for the newbies whom plays L2 for the first time too. Both new and old players will have fun in this game.

I just hope the 'NCWest' puts more effort on advertising the new L2.

6. The currenty armor sets (mostly I think to full attributed or rare or OE sets) and weapons how much useful in the GD?

I was just fine with my +6 noble vespor (1800 elements) light armor set, +13 vesper slasher 'haste' (+300 holy) and +9 vesper spear (+300 Wind) until level 90.

I am focusing more on getting the R95 gears now.
For those of you who don't have +6 sets, any R grade with some elements would be just fine. They are pretty easy to get.

I now have +7 Apocalypse slasher 'focus' (240 wind), +5 Apocalypse spear 'add p'attk' (300 Wind) and +4 Hell armor 'attack' (1560 element) set.
I was just fine with my +6 noble vespor (1800 elements) light armor set, +13 vesper slasher 'haste' (+300 holy) and +9 vesper spear (+300 Wind) until level 90.

I am focusing more on getting the R95 gears now.
For those of you who don't have +6 sets, any R grade with some elements would be just fine. They are pretty easy to get.

I now have +7 Apocalypse slasher 'focus' (240 wind), +5 Apocalypse spear 'add p'attk' (300 Wind) and +4 Hell armor 'attack' (1560 element) set.

Does your gear represent NCSoft Coins hard at work or is it just that easy to plus your weapons and element your armor in GoD?
Does your gear represent NCSoft Coins hard at work or is it just that easy to plus your weapons and element your armor in GoD?


I had mentioned it in different thread couple of times already on this.
What you have is what we used to have. We just gets them sooner.

If it's hard to + your gears in NA/EU, it's just as hard in Korea.

I had to go through lots of pain and wasting of adens to get what I got.
By experiencing the market in NA, I KNOW that we don't have any advantages. It's just a number game as with any other.

And yeah, defenitly needs some luck, lots of'em..
Does your gear represent NCSoft Coins hard at work or is it just that easy to plus your weapons and element your armor in GoD?
+1
I had mentioned it in different thread couple of times already on this.
What you have is what we used to have. We just gets them sooner.

If it's hard to + your gears in NA/EU, it's just as hard in Korea.

I had to go through lots of pain and wasting of adens to get what I got.
By experiencing the market in NA, I KNOW that we don't have any advantages. It's just a number game as with any other.

And yeah, defenitly needs some luck, lots of'em..

Can warrior handle pve with vesper heavy set +3 180 each resist and mid s84 weapon 300 till level 95?
Can warrior handle pve with vesper heavy set +3 180 each resist and mid s84 weapon 300 till level 95?


Should be ok.
However, since low R grade are pretty easy to get, would be better for you to switch to R grade. Maybe not the armor, but the weapon.
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You will learn new mass disarm that does damages as well. All Tyr warriors do.
Should be ok.
However, since low R grade are pretty easy to get, would be better for you to switch to R grade. Maybe not the armor, but the weapon.

last time I have checked periel duals+4 had more p.attk than R grade.

then why should I if it has more p.attk? and same SA?
Can warrior handle pve with vesper heavy set +3 180 each resist and mid s84 weapon 300 till level 95?

Oh, missed the 'mid' part. I meant to switch if you have +3 Vespor weapon.
Don't need to change with 'Requiem' R grade, worth change with 'Apocalypse' R grade

By the way, even if it's the 'requiem' R grade, if you get the 'normal' or even 'blessed', then it's worth switching.:D
Oh, missed the 'mid' part. I meant to switch if you have +3 Vespor weapon.
Don't need to change with 'Requiem' R grade, worth change with 'Apocalypse' R grade

By the way, even if it's the 'requiem' R grade, if you get the 'normal' or even 'blessed', then it's worth switching.:D

I have seen oly manager. he sells till R95 gear. Is R95 easy to obtain from mob drops? and R99 gear is drop too? or only epic bosses/auction like elegia today?


yea R90 duals have around 85 more p.attk than periel..
getting 2 SA's on R grade weapons in addition to the +4 OE bonus should be good incentive to improve over S84.

http://www.terragamers.net/wiki/index.php?title=Weapons

Putting 2nd SA cost WAY WAY WAAYYYY more than single SA.

Btw just for fun: putting TOP R99 blessed duals together costs ~25kkk, yes that's right 25 billion :D

EDIT: I don't really care much about new stuff too early as I'll found out when PTS will be launched, however seeing insane amount of adena to do simple stuff like buying OE books etc I would like to ask destructors was adena supply increased with GoD updated or not? I mean no **** getting 25kkk just to put 2 swords together...
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Stop linking sites with malware in them.

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Hello,

I am the administrator of this website, I set it up for them as I am an avid Lineage 2 Player and enjoy the work they put into this. That site runs the exact same software as Wikipedia and is well know. In fact if you wanted to run your own all you have to do is goto the WikiMedia site and download the stuff.

I commend the contributers to the site for keeping it up to date and informing the Lineage 2 Community. I never imagined they would have taken it as far as they did.

Please feel free to contact me if you have any administration related questions about the site.

Thanks for checking out the site and enjoy your time in Lineage 2 :)My antivirus flagged the site the other day, thanks.
My antivirus flagged the site the other day, thanks.

Sweet. Post the screenshot from your AV log showing it has blocked any security threats detected from the site. Remember this is L2, screenshot or it never happened.

In before "cleared my logs".
My antivirus flagged the site the other day, thanks.
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Oh wow, now Im a "desperate liar"
Who the heck uses antivirus, seriously.
Oh wow, now Im a "desperate liar"

Proof is in the pudding baby. Lets see some anti-virus logs.
Stop linking sites with malware in them.

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Guys can we stop talking about none related things here? Thanks.

There was a very good question for destructor about the cost of things and a dual costing 25kkk to make.

Also I have another question. I'm thinking about skipping R85 armor since I don't want go put stones on too many armors and waiting for R90 armor. (Also because I think it looks cool). So destructor how easy obtainable is R90? Is it something you can strive for without being rich or is it better just to go with R85?

Let's get the thread back on track plz guys.
Thanks, destructor, for answering these questions and clarifying some points :)
Guys can we stop talking about none related things here? Thanks.

There was a very good question for destructor about the cost of things and a dual costing 25kkk to make.

Also I have another question. I'm thinking about skipping R85 armor since I don't want go put stones on too many armors and waiting for R90 armor. (Also because I think it looks cool). So destructor how easy obtainable is R90? Is it something you can strive for without being rich or is it better just to go with R85?

Let's get the thread back on track plz guys.


I skipped the R85.
R85 also looks pretty cool though, but I think you can skip it and go for R90. It's not going to be as easy as getting R85, but I think you can manage getting them with enough effort.