I wont bet on that. Eximius was dead before and down-to-earth nice ppl saved it.
All the best from here !
M
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Eximiuz needs to declare war back upon Ech0 , thats what u guys need :P
Eximius it is :) Ech0 needs to stop fighting wars for clans that can't handle any war. No thank you, during our last war with you you brought half the server to fight just one lonely medium size clan like us. It was already 2 clans against 1 but then you call in vestonicians and later the D00M alliance, DH and Right clan.
I have respect for you and when you play PVP is more honest and fun, don't have the same respect for your clan and the choices they made.
MG then came back and put it again in dubious alliances...
The alliance was certainly dubious before ;-) :D Our current ally is just great with good players.
MaoMao you are so wrong about MG, you can't even begin to imagine. If you would really know him you would respect him and not say these things. Our leader is not MG btw
you brought half the server to fight just one lonely medium size clan like us.
Our current ally is just great with good players.
I think it is either black or white. From what I know you have nemesiis, AN and another clan I forgot because havent seen lately. At least they were fighting for you at Schuttgart some time ago. All legit and nice clans.
BTW, there are no more PKs lately, activity problems ?
As of MG, he insulted me enough to make an impression about him.
all the signs i saw in other clans before death, but who am I to judge
I am sure you will also use GoD to PK without penalty, since you cant war similar clans, small full legit PvE ones should do.
We will just carry on, no matter who PKs us, it just hurts a bit to see a former great legit clan in this state, same as NF, but what can I say, some ppl are too Pr0 and 1337...
M
Regarding declaring war, how come Ech0 has castle if SL is so strong and only PK problem stops them from killing their enemies ? In sieges war is mutual... If you are looking for main vs sub and gankings, well, tough luck. Make sure they dont take castle next time, then you can claim you are good.
M
I think it is either black or white.
You mean I see it black or white? That would be so funny. Or according to you things are black or white?
I respect you, though you are tooooo much, way way too much with the 1 issue. I see your point often.
Too clear things up, we don't have any alliance with Nemesiis. Only AN.
Many legit clans cooperate with top clans during siege time. Ech0 with Right, Vestos and/or DH, we with Nemesiis, MightyKnights again with DH and obviously Vestos.
BTW, there are no more PKs lately, activity problems ?
No activity problem at all, didn't you see our parties at siege? You have to pay more attention. Guess most people that had beef with you left for other clans. Why would we PK you? Come level with us. Would be funny to party once.
As of MG, he insulted me enough to make an impression about him.
But things always end up with accusations and sneers, maybe if u talk with some more kindness and respect this wouldnt have happend
I am sure you will also use GoD to PK without penalty, since you cant war similar clans, legit PvE ones should do.
I am sure we will be way to busy to worry about PKing your members. Why dont u realize that some people like to PVP u cos u react so funny? Kicking people if they fight back? U make it a sport for the kids
....same as NF, but what can I say, some ppl are too Pr0 and 1337...
M
Too which clan u think most people with beef with you went?
You mean I see it black or white? That would be so funny. Or according to you things are black or white?
I respect you, though you are tooooo much, way way too much with the 1 issue. I see your point often.
Too clear things up, we don't have any alliance with Nemesiis. Only AN.
Many legit clans cooperate with top clans during siege time. Ech0 with Right, Vestos and/or DH, we with Nemesiis, MightyKnights again with DH and obviously Vestos.
No activity problem at all, didn't you see our parties at siege? You have to pay more attention. Guess most people that had beef with you left for other clans. Why would we PK you? Come level with us. Would be funny to party once.
But things always end up with accusations and sneers, maybe if u talk with some more kindness and respect this wouldnt have happend
I am sure we will be way to busy to worry about PKing your members. Why dont u realize that some people like to PVP u cos u react so funny? Kicking people if they fight back? U make it a sport for the kids
Too which clan u think most people with beef with you went?
I know where ppl went, but that is just a stepping stone towards DH and the like. NF doesnt PK us lately either, but this has nothing to do with the times they were a nice and respected clan, same as eximius.
No alliance with Nemesiis ? Come on, maybe they are not in alliance, but they do the job for you. Nothing against nemesiis, they have some nice ppl I am friends with, however, this doesnt mean they are legit.
There is one thing to have a bot for a day and kick at report, another to have it for a week and not kick at report. Eventually they leave by themselves when they get the right levels and gear to be accepted in top bot clans, I was just saying they shouldnt be in legit clan in the first place.
Regarding MG there was no problem until the bots told him some lies he choose to believe because who needs legit help when they can have top bot clans in sieges. Strangely, tho, that came after the bots PKed us at siege even tho were supposed to be allies.
Regarding joining academy and getting a reward, that is in the spirit of the clan. Our declared main purpose is to help ppl start out legit and shield them from bad influence in the first days in the game till the newbie sees enough to be able to tell black from white. We eliminate that excuse by both providing advice and material help. Unlike the bots, we do not want to make ppl quit, on the contrary.
For a full legit clan to survive it takes a lot of will from the members. If bot pushes a button and the member does what the bot wants to do, then they will not resist the huge pressure full legit clans are under and will leave anyway, the faster, the better for both us and them. We dont need bot puppets and entertainers, they dont need legit clan.
This also doesnt bond with your claim that we recruit everything that moves, either we do that to have a high member count, or we kick weak ppl that are entertaining bots thus weakening the clan, it is either one or the other. We dont recruit for high member count, but for quality, the clan is way past the original plans of holding just 10 ppl or so with thier alts, roughly a "const".
There are more nice legit PvE ppl than I thought and even if finding them means recruiting 10 for one that stays (it was like that in the begining, now is more like 10 for 3, and this counts all ppl, not only those that left for bigger clans, but those we kick for inactivity too), that is still worth it. 100% is one of the few clans that grow steadily, incidently, with the exception of DH, all the others are legit.
M
No alliance with Nemesiis ? Come on, maybe they are not in alliance, but they do the job for you...
It is like black, grey, white. All legit clans do it expect your clan. It an agreement to fight on their side during siege nothing more.
There is one thing to have a bot for a day and kick at report, another to have it for a week and not kick at report.
You need to proof it or call someone in the moment it happens. Many people falsely accuse people because they walk like this or do things like that. Some people don't even know the difference between an automator and a box.
Strangely, tho, that came after the bots PKed us at siege even tho were supposed to be allies.
How long ago was that? Never heard about you being our ally. Have you ever fought in a serious CC? PK is normal during siege. Most fighting happens outside siege field and PKing is done on purpose. If you can't take XP loss don't bother to show up, that is just an unfortunate fact.
How long ago was that? Never heard about you being our ally. Have you ever fought in a serious CC? PK is normal during siege. Most fighting happens outside siege field and PKing is done on purpose. If you can't take XP loss don't bother to show up, that is just an unfortunate fact.
It was during Franz times. We were regulars at NF/Eximius sieges and were never asking for anything back, just came to help the legit side no matter against who.
When they were allied with DawnBringers under Mechano, that was no problem, when they switched to OS/Angels/Nemesiis, their allies first killed us while purple after siege was won, then next sieges kept PKing us on the road to castle to the point we gave up. It is not about exp loss, it is about losing it against supposedly allied ppl.
We were in CC. We never hit back.
What I said is strange, is that MG has been fed lies AFTER we stopped coming to their sieges, except maybe, the misunderstandings they created int he legit camp which led to the demise of a serious legit ally, which was Synergy.
After GF destroyed any oposition and NF/Exi/Wrath were PKed all over the place (same with 100%, ppl that stole LC had mains in GF and what remained of OS/Angels) and the clans fell into disarray (except 100% that grew under a lot of hostility), who was still a friend and invited them or went to their raids and instances ? As long as MG was away, of course, as soon as he returned, the policy to ally bots and hunt down legits returned. Sure, when you have bot clans as allies, the little contribution legits can do is insignifficant, and to a point that is understandable, however, extending the despise to the point of PK ppl just to show how strong you are and declaring wars against full legit PvE clan while not declaring back against similar clans, this is a behaviour I leave you to give a name to.
I have no illusions, I just layed out this bit of history to refresh your memory, but who cares, as long as you can prove you are a strong clan with wars against PvE clans, that wont matter at all. You can make up any reasons for this policy, make up any acusations and forward bot cool stories, however, that wont change the facts, as many ppl already know them. Eximius was a great clan, respected and envied by many ppl, but that is sadly in the past, and, while you dont believe it, same as in NF case, I am one of the saddest ppl for the current situation, I am not happy for being right when I predicted this will happen, as I am not happy for being right as I am predicting the closure of L2 in NA/EU, but these things are the consequences of decisions taken by mature ppl, fully aware of what will follow. Maybe there is still time to change things, however, I am sure that wont happen, while the last Eximius/NF ppl will roam the land in search of easy PK targets. Nothing that can be done about it, we have the same thing going on (actually already done) with KJ, Ech0 will probably follow, lessons are not being learned, the history keeps repeating itself, in the process, more legits join bot clans because the lack of a viable alternative and it will be so till the last day, because it is the human nature involved, better, fast, easy and fun, the bots seem to provide all these things, but then reality kicks in and it is usually too late, and even if it isnt, the same "politics" continue till the end in the hope that current botters are more honourable than the last ones.
M
The bridge of heine for example is not battle zone, but all the clans fight and kill there. Last siege we came also under friendly fire, it happens a lot. Especially since CCs contain many different clans.
That been said, I was never on Franz, have no idea why this happened. Most people playing at that time are no longer active so we can forget about it.
...which led to the demise of a serious legit ally, which was Synergy.....
The old Synergy alliance was ended, in my opinion, because Eximius was a lot LOT more active than our alliance.
He is a great guy, he worked his *** off ig + an forums to help every1. From help at lvling, showing xp zones, explaining things up to doing spreadsheets about active ppl, RB Drops etc.
So pls dont try to turn him to a bad person... This is just sad.
Eximius doesnt accept ppl botting in their clan. As soon as some1 gets detected it means instant kick + pk.
We even flaged + mass pked a ex-member we found botting at SV.
As already mentioned we lost a good party incl. needed Cardi cos few of the party botted -> kick.
It's not possible to stay behind every char 24/7 to check if he is botting or not. Tho we kick every1 we find.
I am since Feb in Eximius, have partied with a lot of them before, even on Franz and till now its only a handfull ppl that werent legit in Eximius. And guess what, all that botted in Eximius got kicked.
About the WAR going on:
Its a war vs TnT and i must admit its the fairest one ever going right now.
Hard to find TnT nowadays, but always legit pvp with a "gf" even from the side that loose. And its no ganking low lvls etc.
Hell i even saw 3 low S Graders xping, but they asked not to kill so i didnt. And same goes for them, if they kill some of us 1 or 2 times and u ask to stop they stop it and let u and the random party xp.
The bridge of heine for example is not battle zone, but all the clans fight and kill there. Last siege we came also under friendly fire, it happens a lot. Especially since CCs contain many different clans.
That been said, I was never on Franz, have no idea why this happened. Most people playing at that time are no longer active so we can forget about it.
There is one thing to come under friendly aoe fire, or even single target, and another to be backstabbed while everyone around is supposedly in alliance in that particular siege, 5-6 times by the same 2-3 ppl. I know the difference, you can trust me on that.
The old Synergy alliance was ended, in my opinion, because Eximius was a lot LOT more active than our alliance.
Yes, but you dont know the Franz story as you say. Back there it was different, synergy was a force (albeit in a server with a population like now in Naia), but the bots PKed Exi and mostly NF into submission and recruited them, while Wrath dropped the legit flag because of it. What you saw here was the consequence of that "politics", legits believing they can compete with bots and playing as the bots want them to play for the glory of being a "factor", the fifth wheel at the wagon, for some weeks.
Anyway, that is not the issue at hand, it is only the cause that made Synergy fall and made MG believe somehow that poor naked and low level legits in 100% had something to do with it, continuously blaming us for the PK the bots did to them.
Sure, the bots did everything to maintain that illusion, no doubt about it, but they did what they had to do, OS/Angels were soudly beaten and Synergy was their only hope to give the impression they are still around and a "factor". It is no different than blaming legits for the situation l2 is in today, important is to look at the facts and draw a conclusion, not hear just one side of the story and never question if the bots are right or not.
Unsurprisingly, MG still believes a friend of mine that happened to report and give evidence about botting in their ally ranks (I mean the ones on the bot side, not synergy) and so banned tons of bots there when they were still banning bots, is to be blamed for Exi misfortune, when, in fact, not the bot reporter, but the bots themselves are to be blamed for their actions.
But, you know, they are our allies and as such better bots than the others, hehe :P
I was just saying it is sad how lies can break up and fragment the legits, make them play as the bots want, etc. One day it will be clear for everyone what happened there.
M
He is a great guy, he worked his *** off ig + an forums to help every1. From help at lvling, showing xp zones, explaining things up to doing spreadsheets about active ppl, RB Drops etc.
So pls dont try to turn him to a bad person... This is just sad.
Eximius doesnt accept ppl botting in their clan. As soon as some1 gets detected it means instant kick + pk.
We even flaged + mass pked a ex-member we found botting at SV.
As already mentioned we lost a good party incl. needed Cardi cos few of the party botted -> kick.
It's not possible to stay behind every char 24/7 to check if he is botting or not. Tho we kick every1 we find.
I am since Feb in Eximius, have partied with a lot of them before, even on Franz and till now its only a handfull ppl that werent legit in Eximius. And guess what, all that botted in Eximius got kicked.
About the WAR going on:
Its a war vs TnT and i must admit its the fairest one ever going right now.
Hard to find TnT nowadays, but always legit pvp with a "gf" even from the side that loose. And its no ganking low lvls etc.
Hell i even saw 3 low S Graders xping, but they asked not to kill so i didnt. And same goes for them, if they kill some of us 1 or 2 times and u ask to stop they stop it and let u and the random party xp.
I never said MG is a bad person. Hot-blooded, easily influenced by cool stories, unable to maintain a normal conversation without insulting, yeah, but bad person, no.
I am glad some clans do have real wars, not only mass gankings mains vs subs in EV and the like. Good luck, one day I hope more ppl will do the same.
M
.... and declaring wars against full legit PvE clan while not declaring back against similar clans, this is a behaviour I leave you to give a name to.
We declared back to this similar clan, then they brought all their not so similar friends to PK us, send out PK parties for daily lowbies PK and 'hiring' from not so similar clans to join them for the sake of the war. Obviously we stopped the war, even though they should have if they can't handle stuff.
Its all fine, we are not a PvE clan. PvE is the main part of what we do, but PvP is an essential part of this game.
Declaring on you was just a tease from your biggest fan, no body was willing to actually attack you. If you would actually accept for a day we would all be laughing about it still :D (from both sides)
I am telling you if you feel someone was PKed without any valid reason we can talk about it
now back to the subject:
All cardi's, EEs and SEs are especially welcome to join us, see eximiusclan.com (http://www.eximiusclan.com)
We do zaken (get a zaken cape), DV raids (get a vesper weapons and cry) and sieges for PVP savage people. We have an active level 11 clan with most clan skills to boost your character. We aim for everyone to participate in a friendly environment, see our website (http://www.eximiusclan.com)
We declared back to this similar clan, then they brought all their not so similar friends to PK us, send out PK parties for daily lowbies PK and 'hiring' from not so similar clans to join them for the sake of the war. Obviously we stopped the war, even though they should have if they can't handle stuff.
A la guerre comme a la guerre, you know... In a community such as ours sportmanship is for -_- and -_-, not for real winners that make the competition dropout or recruit it, this is why there is so much fun PvP in game...
Talking about PK, well, unlike bots say, we dont "cry moar", nor do we care much, those that do or fight back are not strong enough to be part of this clan, so we thank you for taking care of them.
The others couldnt care less, we dont threaten nor fight back, we simply ignore the PKers with a checkered history
PK is fun and never was a problem, however, it does help maintaining some bad relations and gives bad reputation to a clan, as well as recruiting the ppl that are unfit for a nice legit clan which keep spreading more lies, like the ones before were not enough. Scammers, botters and the like, just to prove full legit is not possible and give them a platphorm to lure out some good ppl.
It is Eximius's choice on how they treat us, whom they believe, how they punish and recruit our members, that is part of the politics and nobody from outside should have a say, I just offered some examples of things I told will not be good and they werent, whether you agree with that or not.
I am fully aware all clans are too Pr0 compared to us, as such, we will never be a "factor" or in a strong alliance, there are enough the lies told behind our back, hearing them again and again in ally chat is not something we are looking forward to.
M