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Let me get this straight! I'm a Maestro... So everyone gets craft now?? I don't understand, my class specific skill is summon siege golems not craft? WTF uses summon SGs anymore?? LOL If we are combining most races does that mean I get spoil?? So confused!
Let me get this straight! I'm a Maestro... So everyone gets craft now?? I don't understand, my class specific skill is summon siege golems not craft? WTF uses summon SGs anymore?? LOL If we are combining most races does that mean I get spoil?? So confused!

No spoil is given to Daggers.:)
And Dwarven Craft/Create Item is given to ex-Fortune-Seekers-turned-Daggers too. That means those characters will be able to both collect their materials with Plunder and then craft top weapons. There are people who call this unfair.

Some items like shots or shirts can be crafted by anybody via Common Craft, but the recipes required for that are more difficult to obtain. You get them only via instances, while the regular Dwarven recipes can be dropped and plundered from monsters in open hunting grounds.

To give a little boost to Dwarven crafters, the probability to get a Normal or a Blessed R-Grade item when you are crafting it - as opposed to the Unidentified items you get as drops or instance rewards - has been increased in Harmony:
http://boards.rochand.com/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=11&start=1060#p5342
(In GoD-Awakening that probability is very low; you mostly get an Unidentified item which will turn almost always into a Bound item on double-clicking)
It really isn't that big of a deal. You can awaken into a dwarven dagger and take advantage of this if it really bothers you since all current players get a free item to awaken into any class. You are being a bit of a hypocrite. You, yourself subclassed a bounty hunter so you could take advantage of spoiling and crafting, but true bounty hunters were never given the ability to subclass a warsmith. Now you complain when the tables are reversed?
I leveled a BH before they were dagger users! I ALWAYS leveled it as a dwarf is meant to be with blunt/pole, heavy (rarely seen dwarves w/ LA even though we had the skill) and AOEing, not a **** dagger! It's pathetic they made a dwarf a dagger! Daggers can't AOE, right? A dwarf has always and should always be considered in L2 as the money making classes. Now spoiling is only given to rogues but crafting is given to EVERYONE?! The only thing exclusive to my race/class is siege summons!? As to being a hypocrite you have no idea what you're talking about! But for not being a sellout I'm being penalyzed, but whatever!
I don't understand, my class specific skill is summon siege golems not craft?

it's race specific, not class
As to being a hypocrite you have no idea what you're talking about! But for not being a sellout I'm being penalyzed, but whatever!

You main a maestro, you subbed a bounty hunter. You got to craft and spoil Now you are upset that bounty hunters will be able to craft and spoil. It's pretty clear.

As for myself, I leveled a dwarf in prelude. A bounty hunter specifically. That entire time, we couldn't even aoe well. Whirl wind and pole mastery didn't cut it especially compared to real aoeing classes. Dwarf players constantly demanded more dps, and bounty hunters got it in the way of dagger skills. Not what we collectively wanted but is much better than how it was. Now dwarf is finally on equal footing with other classes plus their racial perks. A pretty good deal if you ask me. Stop being so **** greedy. The crafting system has been broken for a long time, most crafting done by botted up maestros. It's stupid making the entire player base rely on these dwarves to craft. I am sorry for your individual loss but this is for the greater good. You've had 7 years to make billions, time to stop afking in town all day and play the game with the rest of us.

Your feelings are being felt by many other players playing different classes. I'm sure elemental summoners are really upset they lose their gigantic advantage over warlocks and phantom summoners, for example. The over powered/advantaged classes are losing their perks and we are all going to be on equal footing class wise. This is a good thing for the overall health of the game. We dont have to drag around useless dwarves now just so we can get crafting discounts/safe crystalization. Dwarves dont have to feel like leaches, and now people arent going to be kicked out/denyed parties because they'd rather bring an se instead of a ee or whatever.
Daggers can't AOE, right?

Dagger have 3,well 4 AOE ( cause mass trick is an aoe too ):

Razor Rain: Rain dagger

Poison zone: Mass poison that dmg + reduce speed + reduce shield power

Mass trick: detarget everyone in your front

Dagger explosion : Create an explosion and dmg everyone near
You main a maestro, you subbed a bounty hunter. You got to craft and spoil Now you are upset that bounty hunters will be able to craft and spoil. It's pretty clear.

As for myself, I leveled a dwarf in prelude. A bounty hunter specifically. That entire time, we couldn't even aoe well. Whirl wind and pole mastery didn't cut it especially compared to real aoeing classes. Dwarf players constantly demanded more dps, and bounty hunters got it in the way of dagger skills. Not what we collectively wanted but is much better than how it was. Now dwarf is finally on equal footing with other classes plus their racial perks. A pretty good deal if you ask me. Stop being so **** greedy. The crafting system has been broken for a long time, most crafting done by botted up maestros. It's stupid making the entire player base rely on these dwarves to craft. I am sorry for your individual loss but this is for the greater good. You've had 7 years to make billions, time to stop afking in town all day and play the game with the rest of us.

Your feelings are being felt by many other players playing different classes. I'm sure elemental summoners are really upset they lose their gigantic advantage over warlocks and phantom summoners, for example. The over powered/advantaged classes are losing their perks and we are all going to be on equal footing class wise. This is a good thing for the overall health of the game. We dont have to drag around useless dwarves now just so we can get crafting discounts/safe crystalization. Dwarves dont have to feel like leaches, and now people arent going to be kicked out/denyed parties because they'd rather bring an se instead of a ee or whatever.

LOL! You're an ignorant idiot! Do what I did, and looks like I'll need to do so with my sub...level the other sub or new a new character! I remember leveling a new craft alternative because my recipe book was full before they let us expand it! I’ve even created a BH alternative (way before I could sub one about 5 years ago) to gather mats and make money easier.

I would rather have a warrior class for my main class like I have since beta! Only reason is I'm *NOW* *****ing is Maestros will NO longer make money because EVERYONE can craft now, you idiot! Boohoo back then that spoilers couldn't sub crafter...and now you're TRYING to compare it is the same situation now on crafters, and its NOT! What is going to be the point of setting up craft shop when a thousand other people have it already up!? LOL. Rogues are the way to make money now! It's called "supply and demand," genius! Those spoiled mats are going to go for MILLIONS each because not everyone has spoil! To be honest you ***, I didn't start out *****ing! If anyone was *****ing it was you. LOL. I was just confused to NCSoft's reasoning to it all. I've got my subbed BH, I can take it to 99 (So I was told). Its just a little inconvenient to hop to my sub to EXP and gather my mats. Oh well. I’ve managed and overcome in this game. I guess we’ll figure it all out when PTS goes live. Thanks to everyone who provided me information. Excluding one *******! There is ALWAYS one in the bunch! Ha-ha! :-p
It really isn't that big of a deal. You can awaken into a dwarven dagger and take advantage of this if it really bothers you since all current players get a free item to awaken into any class. You are being a bit of a hypocrite. You, yourself subclassed a bounty hunter so you could take advantage of spoiling and crafting, but true bounty hunters were never given the ability to subclass a warsmith. Now you complain when the tables are reversed?

You do understand that yet a spoiler could not sub a crafter he could always make it as an alt which is the 1-40 lvl loss, which is almost nothing and it gives him the ability to go 85 before the update.
Now think about exping a crafter through all these years cause they always were the outcasts of parties and had to exp solo + their killing abilities were really low. On the other hand a party would easier take a spoiler in since spoiling = more items = more drops/adena.
The ones that managed to play crafter as main had to go through all these and now all their effort goes to 0. They were a unique class for a reason now they just take this reason out of the game same goes for overlords.
Have I wronged you in some way? You seem very upset.
You do understand that yet a spoiler could not sub a crafter he could always make it as an alt which is the 1-40 lvl loss, which is almost nothing and it gives him the ability to go 85 before the update.
Now think about exping a crafter through all these years cause they always were the outcasts of parties and had to exp solo + their killing abilities were really low. On the other hand a party would easier take a spoiler in since spoiling = more items = more drops/adena.
The ones that managed to play crafter as main had to go through all these and now all their effort goes to 0. They were a unique class for a reason now they just take this reason out of the game same goes for overlords.

Yea but you're missing the fact that you also get a sub out of the way like this, where the other person has to roll an alt. Kinda apples and oranges.
yeah and i lose all my SK powers whaaaaaaaa...!

nobody made you keep WS as a main, shoulda made it a alt like 99% of people who realized the class sucked did.