What skills stays from main class on awakened class??

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I heard that some skills stay?? I wander what skills??
lol i hate google translations... any european site??
lol i hate google translations... any european site??
No.
you can see the skill icon by clicking on the name; but I dont think it's true cause I tested a DE tank on the russian PTR and he certainly didnt keep all that skills. He kept a few at 85 and even those you could see in the 3rd skill tab (the one where you learn skill in GoD and where you can also see your futur skills) that you were gonna loose them later.

For all the classes I have tested, I didnt see any skills that didnt disapear at 85 or on the way to 99 (the only skills I dont know about is the 81-85 skills cause we didnt had them on the PTS).
Just before you accept awakening after you do the quest you are given a list of skills that you will keep.
you litterly trade old skills for new ones, so you get to choose what to keep and what to trade for new skills
Ok I don't see overlord on that site. Does it mean I will have no skills?? exept new??
I dont see the point of this list since if you want new skills you have to gave up the old ones; as far as I know (and from my RU PTS tests) there is no skills that you can keep up to 99 if you take the new skills
some skills are better then the awaken version, simple example the sws/bd heavy armor mastery is better then it's awaken version as that one doesn't have crit damage reduction and there are more examples of such.

so yeah it's good to know which skills are not auto unlearn the moment you awaken and to be able to compare them to the new versions, even if say the awaken version at lvl95 is better then you can keep old skill until you hit lvl95 instead of being lazy/bad informed and learn the lower level version right away at lvl85..
Maybe a silly question or even a stupid one, but since I'm not or many of us familiar with the GOD update I'm going to ask anyway :D

Do we absolutely need to awaken?
Why, if our +30 +15 skills go to +0? (read somewhere, maybe not true)
Can I pwn awakened people with a toon that is not awaken?
Can I pve better with a toon that is not awaken?
Are those new skills so muuuuuuuch better then the old ones that it's worth to cancel
the old oe'd ones?
Maybe a silly question or even a stupid one, but since I'm not or many of us familiar with the GOD update I'm going to ask anyway :D

Do we absolutely need to awaken?

NO, its no must. But some places are only for awakened ppl.
(tho it makes no sense not to awaken. Would be like stay on a trial acc with lvl 40 cap while all others are way above u)

Why, if our +30 +15 skills go to +0? (read somewhere, maybe not true)

Cos u trade ur pre 85 skills step by step for awakend ones

Can I pwn awakened people with a toon that is not awaken?

Maybe with much luck if he is also only 85. But awakend chars get a huge cp/hp etc. boost. Also awakend skills have more power
(would be like fighting with pre 2nd class skills vs. ppl with 2nd class skills

Can I pve better with a toon that is not awaken?

Maybe some skills are better then awakend ones. But wont help u much once the lvls go higher.

Are those new skills so muuuuuuuch better then the old ones that it's worth to cancel the old oe'd ones?

As far as we no YES they are.


Hope that helped u.
For more details i recommend u to check lineage2.rochand.com/
Hope that helped u.
For more details i recommend u to check lineage2.rochand.com/

Yes you did, ty :D
Once you decide to swap a skill or not is it permanent? Say i get a skill and it turns out its complete **** but i gave a good one up can i change back to the good one? Or the other way around i didn't get a skill and it turns out to be omfg awesome can i go back and get that skill? Or am i stuck with these bad decisions I'm probably gonna make.
stuck with it so better test it all on PTS
The chances of an awakening skill be worst is close to 0%, mainly because of the learn level.
But I can think of a few here:
- sws/bd armour masteries (old ones have crit dmg reduction)
- PP resists fire/water/wind/earth (not too sure but I didn't see an option for the new combined skill to OE for power :/)
Once you decide to swap a skill or not is it permanent? Say i get a skill and it turns out its complete **** but i gave a good one up can i change back to the good one? Or the other way around i didn't get a skill and it turns out to be omfg awesome can i go back and get that skill? Or am i stuck with these bad decisions I'm probably gonna make.

You can always learn the new skill but once it's done you cant unlearn them
Awaken skills will look very s e x y. This is reason enough to learn new skills over old.

Done.
lf info about prophet skills (buffs) and weapon on aweakened enchanter.
pp w/ "4th prof" can get dance/songs (or smth like that) or just simple party/single target buffs?
lf info about prophet skills (buffs) and weapon on aweakened enchanter.
pp w/ "4th prof" can get dance/songs (or smth like that) or just simple party/single target buffs?
pp will be

pp wc sws ol bd ee (buff wise) se (buff wise)
enchanter is using dual swords

tho i dunno if its single target buffin or like dc buff whole pt right away i hope its second one cus if every single buffer (enchanter) ingame is going to have to buff people one by 1 thats gonna suck
All awakened Enchanters will buff the whole party at once like the Doomcryer does now. The Enchanter will also get some powerfull buffs that will only last a few seconds on a single target though. Like "80% VR for 15 seconds on a single target" or "for 7-15 seconds, target becomes immune to all debuffs".
on single target?
so not at all like the Judicator buffs?
sounds like kamael should just stay Ju i instead of becoming an enchanter.
those buffs are crazy.
I have a question to.
Ill find sts in that website, but i dont see enlightment in the list, that skill deleted?
enlightment prolly gets auto unlearned the moment u awaken

btw at lvl99 enchanters buff the whole clan like that aka OL style..
Really? That sounds nice.
What's the skill called? Didn't see any details about that.
Sweet :D Thanks for that info.
btw at lvl99 enchanters buff the whole clan like that aka OL style..

Thats a stupid thing imo.
They already cutted all the sws/bd/wc/ol etc. into 1 class.
In the end it would be like during a siege u have 10 OL running around per clan. Dunno if that is rly needed?
Hope Enchanters wont get lonely in bigger pvps once lvl 99 is reached.
He said only Poem type buffs will be clan buffs. The Enchanter has more buffs. So every party will still need an Enchanter for full buffs :D
NVM. I missed one page of this topic prior posting.
so new sa on R duals will be acumen? ))
so new sa on R duals will be acumen? ))

Casting speed is irrelevant on an enchanter.

The enchanter magic skills have next to no windup time. You can full buff a party in under 6 seconds with ~500 cast speed.

Robe Mastery doesnt give cast speed either anymore.
Thats a stupid thing imo.
They already cutted all the sws/bd/wc/ol etc. into 1 class.
In the end it would be like during a siege u have 10 OL running around per clan. Dunno if that is rly needed?
Hope Enchanters wont get lonely in bigger pvps once lvl 99 is reached.

Enchanter are not only buffer in GOD; they can also debuff, attack in melee, control, even heal a bit, ...
Transform Body debuff at L99 is pretty OP.

900 range disable that gives -80% runspeed and you are essentially unable to do anything for 15s.
Transform Body debuff at L99 is pretty OP.

900 range disable that gives -80% runspeed and you are essentially unable to do anything for 15s.


Need to see this on PTS..
i dont want to say smthing bad to ncsoft. but im 90% sure that on pts all will be 83lvl and with dyn items in gm shop :)
Hope that helped u.
For more details i recommend u to check lineage2.rochand.com/

I have to quote you on your spelling.... TYPE OUT THE WORDS!!!! "for all we no YES they are" Really? REALLY?! I had to reread that twice to understand that you meant know instead of no. lol
I have to quote you on your spelling.... TYPE OUT THE WORDS!!!! "for all we no YES they are" Really? REALLY?! I had to reread that twice to understand that you meant know instead of no. lol

Well, that was a typo ><
Should have been "know" ofc.
As for the rest, i am simply lazy :D

(btw, caps wont solve anything :rolleyes:)
rochand site is gone :<
is not bad, but is there a site to check if servers are up or not?
Wulfie the forums of rochand are still there.. use search on the server online in google as durr it's there.. like the 6th option or so..

http://chronos.kaifas.lt/
was interested in the infos like items and skills tho not forums