I've been asking around about what an Enchanter should wear in GoD and what a Healer should wear.
1.) I hear that R85 sucks and that Vesper bonuses are better? Do R85 Robes have less Cast speed than Vesper?
-The notes for R85 confuse me when they say "an additional casting speed bonus of 10%"....was there a casting speed bonus to begin with and this was just added on? then why not just add the 2 numbers together?
2.) Apparently robes do not give any cast speed advantage compared to heavy on enchanters?
-Based on this information I should ask: is it the same for healers in Light armor? What are korean healers and enchanters doing? what is the better build? is it mainly that Enchanters have both a Heavy and Robe set for situations? and that Healers have both a Robe and Light set?
----Basically, what should an Enchanter wear if they could only get one armor set? Robe, Light, or Heavy? and should they stick to Vesper or go R85?
-------Same question for Healer: Light or Robes? Vesper or R85?
y0 zestos well from what I've heard enchanters cast speed is almost instantaneously regardless of weapon & armor and most ppl go with heavy for higher survivability..
if your a sws/bd do not learn the new hvy mastery as that's actually worse then the old one, you being a lol ol can just learn it fine though :P
healers will be perfectly fine in vorpal robes all the way to 95+
ps, low R grade gear will be very easy to get so don't buy it overpriced the first 2 weeks as it will be even more common then the old common gear :P
y0 zestos well from what I've heard enchanters cast speed is almost instantaneously regardless of weapon & armor and most ppl go with heavy for higher survivability..
if your a sws/bd do not learn the new hvy mastery as that's actually worse then the old one, you being a lol ol can just learn it fine though :P
healers will be perfectly fine in vorpal robes all the way to 95+
ps, low R grade gear will be very easy to get so don't buy it overpriced the first 2 weeks as it will be even more common then the old common gear :P
Will the old Heavy Mastery +10 be better than the new Heavy Mastery +15?
for starters in GoD max skill OE is set at +10 for any skills even those that we used to be able to oe to +30..
secondly I was talking about the BD/SWS Hvy masteries as those have also a Crit damage reduction of 15% or so and the new mastery doesn't hence that one being actually WORSE then the old one :)
that's a reward for all skill oe's done in the previous chronicles aka pre-GoD and as to source ask anyone on Korean/RU PTS/Go Live.. it's sadly enough a fact..
they won't take away the existing oe's but you better not break any 10+ in GoD if your not an awaken char..
to keep it simple: max skill oe for awaken chars aka the 4th class kills is set to 10 and the lol dev team made that value a hardcode set up for all skills, no idea if that was done on purpose or not but till date this hasn't been changed yet..
that's a bummer.
i guess need to get more cov +15 buffers now before they nerf it down to +10.
because in goddess, the prophecy versions are all -20% speed again.
that's a reward for all skill oe's done in the previous chronicles aka pre-GoD and as to source ask anyone on Korean/RU PTS/Go Live.. it's sadly enough a fact..
they won't take away the existing oe's but you better not break any 10+ in GoD if your not an awaken char..
to keep it simple: max skill oe for awaken chars aka the 4th class kills is set to 10 and the lol dev team made that value a hardcode set up for all skills, no idea if that was done on purpose or not but till date this hasn't been changed yet..
Draecke, I know you are knowledgeable about goddess but this is the first I have seen that "they wont take away existing oe's" and also max will be +10.
What I understood is that they would take all oe's away and give us some sort of new codex thingies. Not sure if that would happen at awakening or before.
Also, I understand they will take many skills away at awakening and others you will lose when you choose new skills. Those taken away will obviously lose oe's too lol
sooooooooooooo confused :confused: wish we had a list of what skills will be taken/replaced "soon (tm)" :(
Draecke, I know you are knowledgeable about goddess but this is the first I have seen that "they wont take away existing oe's" and also max will be +10.
What I understood is that they would take all oe's away and give us some sort of new codex thingies. Not sure if that would happen at awakening or before.
Also, I understand they will take many skills away at awakening and others you will lose when you choose new skills. Those taken away will obviously lose oe's too lol
sooooooooooooo confused :confused: wish we had a list of what skills will be taken/replaced "soon (tm)" :(
I'm with SoulMagic in this one Draecke, haven't found any places that say what you said, mate... :(
if u awaken then all oe skills will be reset/some even removed (auto unlearned) and when you learn the new 4th class skills you lose the rest over time..
if you do not awaken then nothing should be happening with your existing skill oe's.
btw Lux you really should also read & follow what's being discussed at rochand's, has way more info then what is posted/discussed here :)
if u awaken then all oe skills will be reset/some even removed (auto unlearned) and when you learn the new 4th class skills you lose the rest over time..
if you do not awaken then nothing should be happening with your existing skill oe's.
btw Lux you really should also read & follow what's being discussed at rochand's, has way more info then what is posted/discussed here :)
I thought you said that, after the update, the max enchant for any skills would be +10, even 2nd and 3rd jobs.
But what you really said is that the 4th job skills have a max enchant up to +10. And, coming to think of it, all skills that aren't removed by the awakening process are unenchantable skills.
So it is still 2nd job = +30, 3rd job = +15 and now 4th job = +10.
Thanks!
Also, I find it hard to follow 2 forums + my clan's and work at the same time, but I'll try to keep a more open eye in rochand's
No. read the whole topic, there's a link to the Korean test lab and it clearly shows every skill OE will be capped at 10.
so you understood it right the first time.
also there's to much moderation & qqing going on all the time on this forum that most real topics are just discussed at rochands, old skool elliebelly style.
the few posters from there that still post here like laby/elmar/me & a few others only do it to answer/correct wrong assumptions, we stopped posting new updates here as the folks here are quite an ungrateful bunch (yes I'm generalizing).
also rochand has global player base posting instead of here with only NA/Euro.
No. read the whole topic, there's a link to the Korean test lab and it clearly shows every skill OE will be capped at 10.
so you understood it right the first time.
From that thread I understood that, for non-Awake toons, the enchant process is the same and, for awakened toons, it's capped at +10.
It could be, as well, a mistake while applying the new enchant chances for levels 85 to 99.
I didn't find conclusive answers that, even being 3rd class, the max enchant would be +10.
But then again, there's no need for panic. People level 85 nowadays only have +10 or +15 or even +30 skills because they have nothing to do anymore. In GoD, once you hit 85 you won't enchant your skills, you would proceed with the Awakening and lose your old skill to get the new ones and finally enter the end-players realm.
All in all, just a few skills from previous jobs stay and they aren't a big deal compared to the new ones.
I mean, Cardinal to Aeore keeps Prayer, but even capped at +10, prayer isn't that more useful when enchanted, so no need to spend Adena + books + SP on that... Now, if prayer had a Power Route, that would make difference, but for Time or Cost, it is not a big deal, as 210 MP is nothing to Awakening Classes.
Just some thoughts, no panic at the cap... I would try to OE anything past +10 before 85 in anyway and, knowing that almost everything will be lost, I rather not even bother to enchant anything at all...
Also, I guess the cap works only on Awakening Classes, because the awakening changes the table. PowerWiki has both tables, which means that, for 2nd and 3rd classes, the old chances apply and after awakening, the new table (with values for 85 to 99) comes into play.
look at the new skill OE success rate for 2nd/3rd class skills they're all set to 20% or so at +10.. 1 + 1 = 2.
the real issue with this hidden nerf on skill oe lies with any char not 75+ at GoD Go Live or any new server as the only way besides Olympiad (200+mil each + huge amount of fame) to get 4th class skill oe book/masteries is what each char gets upon awakening for "givinh up" all old skill oe's..
the return on +10 skills is low, only +15 (3rd) or anything past +25 (2nd) give a decent amount of essences for use to get 4th class oe mastery books etc.
this applies to all chars not just for awaken ones..
again this is something we have flagged from the very beginning as something we need to test at the GoD PTS..
Answered in your PM.
I don't know Chinese and google translate is poor... also, I can't see pictures in gametsg because of the word "game" in the URL (can go around that using google translate, but it doesn't translate pictures so their url isn't encrypted by the translator). I truly hate proxies...
Gotta check this up at home. Let's keep this either on PM or on this thread, we might get lost discussing this on both channels...