Which race is the best for Sigel Knight :D

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Hi. I love human tanker so much but i am wondering that after 4th (when all knight classes are almost the same) which race is the best for Sigel Knight?
It's very important to me because i'm a newbie and i have to choose character's race before i begin my adventure :D
Any pro can give me some advice? Thanks a lot :)
The best is the Orc race, of course. But you need to be very fast to hop on the wagon.
I voted for elf tank, since noone else had.

Poll is silly anyway, its all gonna look the same at 99.

Just look at the racial skills and decide. But remember dark elves always look sexier doing just about anything.
/socialwait
also

/socialcharm
Will dark elf lose all his skills ?
In skill exchange table there are some skills missing like Hex or Lightning strike (? paralyze ?> its just a error or maybe they will keep some skills ?
Orc

NinjaEdit:
WHy do you have Paladin and Dark Avenger as separate options?? lol
Orc is best.
evas templar because is cute, period.
racial skills/stats wise it's ORC period but honestly go with whatever you like and put down some effort in gear & skill oe as that will matter even more so..
ITT: People not knowing that Phoenix Knight keeps Angelic Icon, which is superior to Knight Frenzy, making Phoenix Knight the best choice.

BUT OK LOL.
WHy do you have Paladin and Dark Avenger as separate options?? lol

I did it because there are some 2nd, 3rd skill will be kept after the character awake, so that PA and DA have a little difference :D
ITT: People not knowing that Phoenix Knight keeps Angelic Icon, which is superior to Knight Frenzy, making Phoenix Knight the best choice.

BUT OK LOL.
Orc keeps Angelic Icon lol.
DA is the best, reason? alot 3th skill will not remove
Orc keeps Angelic Icon lol.
This.
ITT: People not knowing that Phoenix Knight keeps Angelic Icon, which is superior to Knight Frenzy, making Phoenix Knight the best choice.

BUT OK LOL.
does it matter?

if a orc / dwarf goes decide to be tank they get all phoenix knight skills to start off with
dunno about the other races but i guess every1 gets it lol so meh doesnt matter does it?
does it matter?

if a orc / dwarf goes decide to be tank they get all phoenix knight skills to start off with
dunno about the other races but i guess every1 gets it lol so meh doesnt matter does it?

That's only with the stone. If someone is, say, a Temple Knight, they're not going to have Phoenix Knight skills when they become a Sigel Knight. Not how it works.

About DA being best because it "keeps many of it's third class skills", the only thing good I saw DA keeping was Hamstring, which is promptly replaced with Final Judgment. They have nothing that doesn't get replaced with something superior. No, they do not keep Shield of Revenge.
Phoenix Knight

cause i love him :)
On the Awakening Skill Replacement page, it says that Phoenix Knight's skill "Angelic Archon" is replaced by Knight Frenzy. I had been assuming that this was either a mis-spelling of Angelic Icon or that they had changed the skill name slightly. is that not the case, as I was unaware of a skill "Angelic Archon"
I voted Eva's Templar because they are rare. I am currently leveling a TK and is surprisingly good. Not like a Shilien Knight, but still efficient.
Also, Is Angelic Icon really all that much better than Knight Frenzy? Knight frenzy gives you 40 less critical or critical damage but 70% more M.Def and P.def so wouldn't that balance out? Or is it the extra 5% attack speed that AI gives you, which really makes the difference? I've never been one for crunching numbers or stats, so I'm just curious. They seem like they would be two about evenly effective skills to me.
cant vote cuz your missing options for dwarf / orc / kamael

tbh Orc will be best tank with racials and stats
Orc Dwarf Human in that order (imo). But player skill and gear is more important then race.
for me, i think its hellknight. debuffs+ slow etc = slow death. but im not really sure :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:




i hope they (NCsoft) will provide free AIO full buffer soon in every town
I believe it would be Shillien Templar, you keep your Sting for dot damage, also, you don't actually need to exchange your smart cubic for the knight cubic.

And you still have the highest STR as well as the life syphon racial and sharp mind for extra boost
for me, i think its hellknight. debuffs+ slow etc = slow death. but im not really sure :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:




i hope they (NCsoft) will provide free AIO full buffer soon in every town

You really need to stop thinking they are gonna ever shape the retail server to look anything at all like whatever priv server you played on.

You have newbie buffs until 75 here, then you are on your own.

Good luck!
Also, Is Angelic Icon really all that much better than Knight Frenzy? Knight frenzy gives you 40 less critical or critical damage but 70% more M.Def and P.def so wouldn't that balance out? Or is it the extra 5% attack speed that AI gives you, which really makes the difference? I've never been one for crunching numbers or stats, so I'm just curious. They seem like they would be two about evenly effective skills to me.
That's Kinght Frenzy lvl 4, the one you get at lvl 99. The one that you get at lvl 85 is absolutely worse than AI.

Besides, AI's reuse is twice as fast.
Yeah but do you need to be below 30% to cast Knight frenzy ? And how long it last ?
In the end, which is lvl 99 stas there will be extremely minimal difference between Orc tank or DE tank even though CON differs a lot. By boosting current stats they also reduced overall impact they had.
In the end, which is lvl 99 stas there will be extremely minimal difference between Orc tank or DE tank even though CON differs a lot. By boosting current stats they also reduced overall impact they had.

That's correct.
When the CON was around 40+ , a 5 value difference between Orc and DE means alot
But now, CON is around 85+, a 5 value difference between Orc and DE means 50% less.

Disclaimer : 40+, 85+ and 5 are all for illustrative purpose.
For the exact CON status of Orc and DE, please refer to Lineage2.com
ahmm .....i prefer HELLKNIGHT . i will remove all your buffs jajajjjjajaajaja! l2.com doesnt have full buffer so this is your weakness
Orc has the most potential to be best tank.

Aceleration from DE is near useless, as a tank you WANNA be targeted, and ur knight cubic can cancels ur debuffs constantly.
Syphon life is 1% at a 20% chance since vampire rage is now 20% chance. So if you deal 1000 damage, you will absorb 10 HP at a 20% chance, that means that you will recover in average 2 hp per hit IF you deal 1000 damage constantly. And tanks won't give much dmg now like before.
The night ability is too situational also...so Orc wins.
Orc Undying Will seems good for tanks but let see how long it last.
for all those ppl saying X class cause it has debufs/attack skills from before awakening you need to realize those skill DO NOT land on awaken chars..

the whole debuf system has been changed in GoD guys..
Since Dex no long effects block rate (CON now does) I can see why people are saying Orcs as tanks. But, I think I will stick it out with Elf because of having another defensive cool down as a racial seems interesting. But I heard it is on a long cool down.
Before Gods = Shillien Templar
After Gods = Human DA
After Lindvior = I beleve shillien templar again :)

After gods shillien templar lost a lot of offensive and important skills (hex, power break , L. Strike and All cubics)
I hope DE will the best Tank.
hahaha
there is no "best race" it just depends on what type of player you are and what your skill level is!! ;)
Orcs are cool though!
Good luck!
Dwarf is best.
Highest Cute stat in the game.
for all those ppl saying X class cause it has debufs/attack skills from before awakening you need to realize those skill DO NOT land on awaken chars..

the whole debuf system has been changed in GoD guys..

I know this post is from last year, but for the sake of killing a potential rumor, this is absolutely incorrect.

Some debuffs from 2nd and 3rd class, even cubics, will land on you even at level 99. I've been hit with demon wind, fire vortex, hex cubic, powerbreak cubic, magnus unicorn stun, etc.