Yul archer

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Hi people, if i lvl up a moonlight sentinel to a yul archer?, i have the SAME stats (str etc) that a ghost sentinel yul archer? with the same equip on 85 (yul archer) im gonna hit the same? or the dark elf still hits more?
Hi people, if i lvl up a moonlight sentinel to a yul archer?, i have the SAME stats (str etc) that a ghost sentinel yul archer? with the same equip on 85 (yul archer) im gonna hit the same? or the dark elf still hits more?
No, you wont have the same stats, you will still have race skills. So yeah dark elf would still hit more.
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what u you think about the diference? 1k or more? with the same equip
It's not about how much damage you do, it's about playing a class you would enjoy.
Some questions

If my main class is orc fighter and I sub archer , would my sub get my main class race skills or the one race I sub?

Secondary , I see how easy melee aoe and mage aoe exp after 70+, how is archer exping after, zones, tips, as archers cant aoe so effective exp is mush slower?

I would like to make sub archer just cos I like playing one still low lvl archer is bad archer so are there any way to exp archers as faset as aoe mage party or aoe (pole) fighter party ?
Some questions

If my main class is orc fighter and I sub archer , would my sub get my main class race skills or the one race I sub?

Secondary , I see how easy melee aoe and mage aoe exp after 70+, how is archer exping after, zones, tips, as archers cant aoe so effective exp is mush slower?

I would like to make sub archer just cos I like playing one still low lvl archer is bad archer so are there any way to exp archers as faset as aoe mage party or aoe (pole) fighter party ?

If you sub an archer on your arc your stats would have your main class race skills.

Archers don't have really aoe attacks, well SRs do but like not worth it. But if you are smart about where you go you can still level up really fast. Sure it's not aoe party fast but I do level faster solo than some of the horrible aoe parties i've found around the place.
At 85+ in groups its all about aoe dmg, at harnak / soa... And yul do very well there..
If you sub an archer on your arc your stats would have your main class race skills.

Archers don't have really aoe attacks, well SRs do but like not worth it. But if you are smart about where you go you can still level up really fast. Sure it's not aoe party fast but I do level faster solo than some of the horrible aoe parties i've found around the place.

Get ur facts straigt . Archers got 2 AoE skills which deal rly high damage .
Ok then some more questions
First of all I see that there are some buffs you can buff and get resist to archers in pvp, also now reflet buff will reflect ranged attacks from archers , seems to me that you can get much more buffed against archers then mages also damage burst probably is better from mages, archers have +400 range but probably not all of skills will have that range anyway , so as far i read forums it seems that archers are kind of low , warlocks buff is also not so strong that it used to be..

Now my main is warrior and i wanted to make some range dual sub for sieges and raids , archer would be great here but reading lots of posts about them being low makes me wonder wit be worth it i mean
Its almost impossible to kill good tank with archer cos of resists / tanks have no resist against mages (nothing like deflect arrow)
you can buff against archer ( as i remember 90% resist archery for 1min) you can buff resist against elements from mage but its much lower
You have much less chance to hit from range dagger class with high evasion with archer than with mage
You have aoes but they probably take lost of mp and you as archer do not have 4 k mp as mage does
Mage can fear someone/ silence (healer) many debuffs .. archer - stun and if it fails you relay mostly on auto attack

well its just what comes to mind, If these both classes would be balanced like50/50 no doubt i would sub archer just cos like his gameplay style but .. but

So may be someone who have archer 85+ could make some list of cons/pros

Like sieges +-
Epics +-
Pvp (small scale) +-
Farm +-

Im not asking for best class just is it class equal to mage, in what areas it shines and in what it su*

Also lets imagine party vs party battle

healer /encanter/archerx3 /cat/ (healer or tank) vs
healer /enchanter/mage x3/ponny/healer or tank)

if tank from mage party agros archers he gets much lower damage than if archer party tank agros mages

mage party with ponny will allow healer to cast heal faster , faster removing debuffs + summoner will have huge debuff speed /reuse also all mage skills will reuse rly nice

mages will have faster casting sp than archer attack sp
using skills will be slower for archers than mages

anyway guys I probably not knowing much how late game pvp goes with archer cos i have played only mage and at least in graca never had problems with killing archers, so plz tell me something I do not know that makes archers still good option for sieges/large scale pvp and raids
Some questions

If my main class is orc fighter and I sub archer , would my sub get my main class race skills or the one race I sub?

Secondary , I see how easy melee aoe and mage aoe exp after 70+, how is archer exping after, zones, tips, as archers cant aoe so effective exp is mush slower?

I would like to make sub archer just cos I like playing one still low lvl archer is bad archer so are there any way to exp archers as faset as aoe mage party or aoe (pole) fighter party ?

Get ur facts straigt . Archers got 2 AoE skills which deal rly high damage .
Look at the question, he is asking about 70+. what AoE skills do archers get at 70? really? They get one at 81 that you get with a forgotten spellbook. And with the current way leveling is 81-85, it's really notreally worth it in order to get it... So unless there is more AoE skills around 70s you must be talking about Yul Archers in that case it means you didn't read his/her question. In that case, "Get ur facts straigt". Bloody noobs to the game trying to tell me what's what.
This topic should be about 85+ Yul Archer no lvl 70 questions.. u have other threads for that.

@Janka84 - Yul have about 4k MP with ISS buffs.. Mages have 7k++. Takes long time for archer to get rid of thier MP compared to mages. + if u have 1-2 healers its np to farm nonstop spamming skills over and over since they refill your MP/HP/CP every 5-10min, I never had MP troubles with a good healer..

So far I havent pvped so much since awekening so can´t rly tell you much about that.

All PVE grps should have atleast a mage and an archer in grp seen so many melee guys gimp our grp with thier dmg and death all time because they die from mob aoe.. while archer and nukers just can stand safly at 900+ range.

In GoD update times like archer party is dead its much better to split grps with like yul+yul+nuker+iss+tank+healer+healer instead of have 3 archers. thats both for pvp and pve..
Thread is about awakened archers I think, lets talk about that and not 70lvl.


Ok then some more questions
First of all I see that there are some buffs you can buff and get resist to archers in pvp, also now reflet buff will reflect ranged attacks from archers , seems to me that you can get much more buffed against archers then mages also damage burst probably is better from mages, archers have +400 range but probably not all of skills will have that range anyway , so as far i read forums it seems that archers are kind of low , warlocks buff is also not so strong that it used to be..

Now my main is warrior and i wanted to make some range dual sub for sieges and raids , archer would be great here but reading lots of posts about them being low makes me wonder wit be worth it i mean
Its almost impossible to kill good tank with archer cos of resists / tanks have no resist against mages (nothing like deflect arrow)
you can buff against archer ( as i remember 90% resist archery for 1min) you can buff resist against elements from mage but its much lower
You have much less chance to hit from range dagger class with high evasion with archer than with mage
You have aoes but they probably take lost of mp and you as archer do not have 4 k mp as mage does
Mage can fear someone/ silence (healer) many debuffs .. archer - stun and if it fails you relay mostly on auto attack

well its just what comes to mind, If these both classes would be balanced like50/50 no doubt i would sub archer just cos like his gameplay style but .. but

So may be someone who have archer 85+ could make some list of cons/pros

Like sieges +-
Epics +-
Pvp (small scale) +-
Farm +-

Im not asking for best class just is it class equal to mage, in what areas it shines and in what it su*

Also lets imagine party vs party battle

healer /encanter/archerx3 /cat/ (healer or tank) vs
healer /enchanter/mage x3/ponny/healer or tank)

if tank from mage party agros archers he gets much lower damage than if archer party tank agros mages

mage party with ponny will allow healer to cast heal faster , faster removing debuffs + summoner will have huge debuff speed /reuse also all mage skills will reuse rly nice

mages will have faster casting sp than archer attack sp
using skills will be slower for archers than mages

anyway guys I probably not knowing much how late game pvp goes with archer cos i have played only mage and at least in graca never had problems with killing archers, so plz tell me something I do not know that makes archers still good option for sieges/large scale pvp and raids

Archers suxxx. Start a Tyr Warrior instead!
Thread is about awakened archers I think, lets talk about that and not 70lvl.




Archers suxxx. Start a Tyr Warrior instead!
I am already tyrant 76 and will sub soon, ok may be i generalized in my post and asked about 70+95 not 85-95 archers but idea is the same.
I am already tyrant 76 and will sub soon, ok may be i generalized in my post and asked about 70+95 not 85-95 archers but idea is the same.

Actually that's where you are wrong!
The idea is NOT the same.

Pre-awakened archers are nothing like awakened, as compared to other classes.

For example:
An MS/GS/SG would never win against an equal tank.

A Yul however, against a Sigel . . . is another story that most tanks won't be happy to talk about :D
I haven`t awakened yet, but reading all Yul Archer`s skills description i think it would be pretty good if you how to use them, i already have in my mind PVP combos for it :D can`t wait to awaken <3