What's going on with NCSoft turning L2 into some wow genre game?? REally?
You killed world pvp with the changes in the Pk system, everyones afraid of atacking or killing som1, and every noob shout:"Are you gona pk me?" "U sure" "U mad?" .. Nice, u turn all l2 players into ******* cowards who dont give a fight.. Second, Auction, it s a good mechanic but you killed the second best thing about L2, the markets, where ppl actually had fun trading, barguing and buying stuff at awesome prices..Third, the end game has only about 8 classes(didnt count), and u can pick anything at lvl 1 and become wtv who want.. WTF is this??? Will anyone pick a stupid dwarf to lvl up, or a dagger type? Everyone will go for fast lvlers as nukers or aoe setups, GG, once again you did it, you killed half the classes that actually exist.. Finally, R grade dropable and non-exchangable at end-game, from instance only??? Really, will u kill the trading system just like that? Do you think i play L2 for the pvE fun ?? there are better games for that.... No world pvp, no free market system, 8 classes only, late game=pve only===> IT S WOW! That's why i dont play that **** anymore, it bores me.. GG ncsoft, you failed hard.
What's going on with NCSoft turning L2 into some wow genre game?? REally?
You killed world pvp with the changes in the Pk system, everyones afraid of atacking or killing som1, and every noob shout:"Are you gona pk me?" "U sure" "U mad?" .. Nice, u turn all l2 players into ******* cowards who dont give a fight.. Second, Auction, it s a good mechanic but you killed the second best thing about L2, the markets, where ppl actually had fun trading, barguing and buying stuff at awesome prices..Third, the end game has only about 8 classes(didnt count), and u can pick anything at lvl 1 and become wtv who want.. WTF is this??? Will anyone pick a stupid dwarf to lvl up, or a dagger type? Everyone will go for fast lvlers as nukers or aoe setups, GG, once again you did it, you killed half the classes that actually exist.. Finally, R grade dropable and non-exchangable at end-game, from instance only??? Really, will u kill the trading system just like that? Do you think i play L2 for the pvE fun ?? there are better games for that.... No world pvp, no free market system, 8 classes only, late game=pve only===> IT S WOW! That's why i dont play that **** anymore, it bores me.. GG ncsoft, you failed hard.
^This!
Pointless and stupid changes are pointless and stupid.
New areas are very pretty, new skills are good, buffs arent a problem anymore, dailies give us a chance to xp alts a little every day, new solo instances allow us a chance to farm for gear, drops are high rate now.
What's going on with NCSoft turning L2 into some wow genre game?? REally?
You killed world pvp with the changes in the Pk system, everyones afraid of atacking or killing som1, and every noob shout:"Are you gona pk me?" "U sure" "U mad?" .. Nice, u turn all l2 players into ******* cowards who dont give a fight.. Second, Auction, it s a good mechanic but you killed the second best thing about L2, the markets, where ppl actually had fun trading, barguing and buying stuff at awesome prices..Third, the end game has only about 8 classes(didnt count), and u can pick anything at lvl 1 and become wtv who want.. WTF is this??? Will anyone pick a stupid dwarf to lvl up, or a dagger type? Everyone will go for fast lvlers as nukers or aoe setups, GG, once again you did it, you killed half the classes that actually exist.. Finally, R grade dropable and non-exchangable at end-game, from instance only??? Really, will u kill the trading system just like that? Do you think i play L2 for the pvE fun ?? there are better games for that.... No world pvp, no free market system, 8 classes only, late game=pve only===> IT S WOW! That's why i dont play that **** anymore, it bores me.. GG ncsoft, you failed hard.
Wait, what?
"Noobs" that did attack back and got killed don't do it because of the PK system? ********.
People can't mindless random PK people just like in the old days, not the *** you guys played the last 5 years. So people gave you a fight when you did PK them? (going RED which means they did not fight back) before GOD?
Do you even know how the FLAG System works?
L2 always has been about PVE. Just because 99% choose to bot up and pvp all day didn't change the nature of the game. Wait a few months and you will get your "PVP GAME" back.
I don't like the changes to classes, neither the auction hall. But GOD is no fail at all.
Since GOD new palyers get DECENT Gear while leveling fast to 85 to catch up (you know so you can have competitive pvp). You still have your advance with top end stuff undbound and MW / Blessed gear.
But they at least can compete in their bound stuff with one SA.
It isnt pvp if they dont fight back, and who cares about low level non factor PVP, the political metagame was always the only pvp that really mattered and the essence of L2.
If you are really ****** off at someone, level up and once you get to a level where pvp actually matters War their clan and kill them all. I have seen and experience a lot of pvp when I was leveling my mentee certificate alt. Most ppl within the same level range will fight back at being hit, now if you come with your level 70 main to kill some level 10 ofc no one is going to fight back and you deserve the PK.
Wait, what?
"Noobs" that did attack back and got killed don't do it because of the PK system? ********.
People can't mindless random PK people just like in the old days, not the *** you guys played the last 5 years. So people gave you a fight when you did PK them? (going RED which means they did not fight back) before GOD?
Do you even know how the FLAG System works?
L2 always has been about PVE. Just because 99% choose to bot up and pvp all day didn't change the nature of the game. Wait a few months and you will get your "PVP GAME" back.
I don't like the changes to classes, neither the auction hall. But GOD is no fail at all.
Since GOD new palyers get DECENT Gear while leveling fast to 85 to catch up (you know so you can have competitive pvp). You still have your advance with top end stuff undbound and MW / Blessed gear.
But they at least can compete in their bound stuff with one SA.
Erm, there always were abuses in the pk system, high levels killing lowbies, wich i didnt do it and i tought it sucked too... But the pk system was more than that, you could fight for your grinding spot and ppl would actually fight for it.. If some1 ksed you, you would try to pk them, and if they fight back, then you would have your pvp... What I m saying, right now, you get ksed all the time, specialy by one shot mages, that take all the mobs, and what can you do to defend your griding spot?? Beg * plix plox my mobs* OR leave like noob. Because everyone knows no1 will ever pk them!
IMO private servers can be even better than l2 god,becose you can feel pvp on priv servers...
Now what you got? quest,kamaloka,quest,kamaloka,quest drop top items, bb game...jezus chris nightmare l2....
errr... lvl up? leave newbie stage?
:confused:
its so funny, without these changes the game would have died within 1-2 years (new games coming out, like guild wars 2, etc...
Now its all about kamas? quests? what the !@#$ are you talking about? Ever since I put my mentee certificate on my level 71 I have been grinding non stop over the past 3 days and I am almost 75. Sure, there are daily quests that give SOME exp that ASK YOU to kill around 100-200 monsters. Before you talk smack please make sure you play the game all the way, thank you. Just because you got 1-20 in half an hour and 20-41 in one hour does not mean it's like that the rest of the way. Hell, show me a quest at 70 that gives me exp only talking to npc.
Bad things about GoD:
1.PvP changes were obviously taken from a old version of WOW. This is evidenced by the way in which people cause others to flag now by standing in their AOE, which was exactly how it was done in vanilla WOW.
2.Dailies don't work properly.
3.Campaign events are terrible. Total waste of time for 99% of participants.
4.We still have almost no GM interaction, and cannot kill off bots without being punished for it.
5.Botting is even more profitable due to the changes made in the game.
Good things about GoD:
1. PvP changes make people think twice about killing legit players before max lvl. At max lvl, it no longer has much effect due to fame being used to remove karma.
2.Dailies were added..at least they tried?
3. Game looks better.
That's about it. The game, in terms of quality, either went down a little bit, up a little bit, or didn't change at all. Most of the issues could easily be fixed to bring the overall quality to heights its never been before.
1. For PvP- make it so if a character is reported as a bot, they become purple for 5 mins. In extreme cases, such as where the character has been reported multiple times, make them red with 100% drop rates for 5 mins. To avoid exploiting of this, give them enough time to use a escape scroll before they change colors.
2. Fix the dailies. Make em work, that's it.
3. Hire more GMs. About 12 per server should do.
Bad things about GoD:
1.PvP changes were obviously taken from a old version of WOW. This is evidenced by the way in which people cause others to flag now by standing in their AOE, which was exactly how it was done in vanilla WOW.
2.Dailies don't work properly.
3.Campaign events are terrible. Total waste of time for 99% of participants.
4.We still have almost no GM interaction, and cannot kill off bots without being punished for it.
5.Botting is even more profitable due to the changes made in the game.
Good things about GoD:
1. PvP changes make people think twice about killing legit players before max lvl. At max lvl, it no longer has much effect due to fame being used to remove karma.
2.Dailies were added..at least they tried?
3. Game looks better.
That's about it. The game, in terms of quality, either went down a little bit, up a little bit, or didn't change at all. Most of the issues could easily be fixed to bring the overall quality to heights its never been before.
1. For PvP- make it so if a character is reported as a bot, they become purple for 5 mins. In extreme cases, such as where the character has been reported multiple times, make them red with 100% drop rates for 5 mins. To avoid exploiting of this, give them enough time to use a escape scroll before they change colors.
2. Fix the dailies. Make em work, that's it.
3. Hire more GMs. About 12 per server should do.
The game is about as close to great as it can get based on it's age, if you want the old busted way, go back to your privates
Never played a private, and I hope they all DIAF.
The things I suggested would only hurt botters and those from private servers, while helping everyone else.
michas: "Another lol topic from another priv-guy?"
Fanboy, we all know you are better than the players from private servers. Unless you have something else to say, shut up with those useless comments. Btw, i have played official, so dont try to troll me.
And who cares for your ******* signature anime? WHO CARES WITCH ANIME YOU WATCHED LOL !! think about it before sleep
You are happy with new system? (*_* im happyyy player no kill me even once happy happy happy ! *_* )
I'm kid i need be care by Ncsoft ... **** !
Yours dream come true? just play safety and show everywhere your empowered wisdsom becose you are so awesome official fanboy player **** !
And who cares for your ******* signature anime? WHO CARES WITCH ANIME YOU WATCHED LOL !! think about it before sleep
You are happy with new system? (*_* im happyyy player no kill me even once happy happy happy ! *_* )
I'm kid i need be care by Ncsoft ... **** !
Yours dream come true? just play safety and show everywhere your empowered wisdsom becose you are so awesome official fanboy player **** !
I'm just glad that players like you will end up back on your crappy private servers soon enough, where you can go pk and be a carebear working off your karma, and not have to face the consequences,m the rest of us will stay with the hardcore system we have now
Why are all these people, who can hardly muster a word of English getting so mad. Most of the players are from private server, and Brazil... All the players who don't like the new rules go away.
The Brazillians from my experience are to cheap to play retail games so they play private servers, when they play on the private servers, they are so rude in game they completely make everyone leave.
why are all these people, who can hardly muster a word of english getting so mad. Most of the players are from private server, and brazil... All the players who don't like the new rules go away.
The brazillians from my experience are to cheap to play retail games so they play private servers, when they play on the private servers, they are so rude in game they completely make everyone leave.
Why are all these people, who can hardly muster a word of English getting so mad. Most of the players are from private server, and Brazil... All the players who don't like the new rules go away.
The Brazillians from my experience are to cheap to play retail games so they play private servers, when they play on the private servers, they are so rude in game they completely make everyone leave.
The update is fine, DEAL WITH IT!
Made me laugh because it's so true. Even the BR's that were here before the game went F2P are all big time jerks. It's funny how they can be so rude but then when you say something to them they cry and try to report you.
Why are all these people, who can hardly muster a word of English getting so mad. Most of the players are from private server, and Brazil... All the players who don't like the new rules go away.
The Brazillians from my experience are to cheap to play retail games so they play private servers, when they play on the private servers, they are so rude in game they completely make everyone leave.
The update is fine, DEAL WITH IT!
and you sunshine, are so humble, so polite... someone pls close this stupid thread.
"wanna play EA's games? - no they fail
wanna play Ubisoft's games? - no they fail too
wanna play activision's games? - no they fail 3 times
wanna play rockstar's games? - no they fail hard"
"ALL FAIL HARD". why u ppl BUY other games then? l2 is FREE TO PLAY
Is that you wanna talk about? Personally, the only annoying thing ingame is the pk system, for me, all the gameplay, pve/pvp/skills/classes etc etc = AWESOME
Like "allcars" said, God is fine so deal with it.
We don't care even if you leave from official. We will have less lag :D
and btw, if you don't like GoD then make a topic and leave pls.
That is right I said it, it was on everyone's mind anyway.
im glad that you said it, its better than just think about it...
Im brazilian, im here for 4 or 5 years already... so far GOD is the update that i'm enjoying most.
i agree that are some brazilians can be a pain in the..... some are rude like you said, and i believe that ncsoft need to learn how to deal with this, but bad behavior is not an exclusivity of brazilian people...
im glad that you said it, its better than just think about it...
Im brazilian, im here for 4 or 5 years already... so far GOD is the update that i'm enjoying most.
i agree that are some brazilians can be a pain in the..... some are rude like you said, and i believe that ncsoft need to learn how to deal with this, but bad behavior is not an exclusivity of brazilian people...
I know I shouldn't have generalized about a people as a whole, but the influx of Brazilian players to free to play lineage2, seems to have brought down their name as an online community. A lot of people on the forums not all but a lot seem to be coming from Brazil.
I'm just tired of the complaints in half-***** English. I understand, if you don't speak a language and want to voice your opinion about something, but most of the unreadable drabble that is spout here is terrible.
I by no means speak the "Queens" English, but I at least try and make a statement that it readable and carries some merit, tasteless as it maybe, there is some merit to it.
well, a couple of days ago i was with some clanies flagging on Ivory tower area and tbh we got some fight back ... ofc you can't just pk at will, but ... tbh on this rates is not like you're running around to see who you pk. ... most of times you pk here is just because you're really mad at someone, or because you're a **** or because for some situation in pvp/ raid you need to get rid of some1.
also the ******rs who use to pk lowbies will think twice before try to be funny.
so if you want pvp... just flag, run around and soon you will get what you want ;)
Well not everyone from BR is bad but most are....... Ill give a few examples, In AION most people will kick or wont grp with you if you from BR, LoL most BR ppl cant play what so ever, in HoN even more fail and normally you will be kicked or everyone leaves lol. Same for some of the F2P Iv played most grps wont touch ppl from BR.
Again all what I said isnt always true but it apply's to alot of people tho. Another grp is people from Quebec also... again not all are bad but there a larger group that plain fail at online gaming of any type and rage at you bc they suck
Well not everyone from BR is bad but most are....... Ill give a few examples, In AION most people will kick or wont grp with you if you from BR, LoL most BR ppl cant play what so ever, in HoN even more fail and normally you will be kicked or everyone leaves lol. Same for some of the F2P Iv played most grps wont touch ppl from BR.
Again all what I said isnt always true but it apply's to alot of people tho. Another grp is people from Quebec also... again not all are bad but there a larger group that plain fail at online gaming of any type and rage at you bc they suck
i've played those games and many MMo more and i've never seen that hardcore fascism you're talking about ... also BRs usually hang with a bunch of other BRs and they have good amount of skilled players.
but let's flip the other side of the coin. .. i won't even tell you how many guilds , alliances or parties with murricans, euros or even russians i have left because they fail so bad.
Asians are the only consistent players if you ask me lol
I don't know about everyone else, but I have far more fun browsing the auction house than I ever did running through town and clicking on everyone at 5 FPS.
I also don't know how people relate this game to WoW, since the experience grind (at least above 85) is even worse than it used to be, and vitality got all but removed from the game.
What's going on with NCSoft turning L2 into some wow genre game?? REally?
You killed world pvp with the changes in the Pk system, everyones afraid of atacking or killing som1, and every noob shout:"Are you gona pk me?" "U sure" "U mad?" .. Nice, u turn all l2 players into ******* cowards who dont give a fight.. Second, Auction, it s a good mechanic but you killed the second best thing about L2, the markets, where ppl actually had fun trading, barguing and buying stuff at awesome prices..Third, the end game has only about 8 classes(didnt count), and u can pick anything at lvl 1 and become wtv who want.. WTF is this??? Will anyone pick a stupid dwarf to lvl up, or a dagger type? Everyone will go for fast lvlers as nukers or aoe setups, GG, once again you did it, you killed half the classes that actually exist.. Finally, R grade dropable and non-exchangable at end-game, from instance only??? Really, will u kill the trading system just like that? Do you think i play L2 for the pvE fun ?? there are better games for that.... No world pvp, no free market system, 8 classes only, late game=pve only===> IT S WOW! That's why i dont play that **** anymore, it bores me.. GG ncsoft, you failed hard.
This is no more LINEAGE2....... ppls dont we miss days like this ??? ------> WACH --->> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGD9SUu5F60 ....... this is lineage2 i know you liked it.... this is pwp/pk god.... this is days where we found the game who is the best in the world.... and its wasnt be copy offer games!!! ..... now l2 god its pve...... LOL no trade system with shops, no fun.... only NPC..... FAIL NCsoft FAIL....... ya you created star wars....... at the end ---------->>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82D5***cF9Q
I don't know about everyone else, but I have far more fun browsing the auction house than I ever did running through town and clicking on everyone at 5 FPS.
I also don't know how people relate this game to WoW, since the experience grind (at least above 85) is even worse than it used to be, and vitality got all but removed from the game.
says the person who leveled on nothing but vit. fail more.
This is no more LINEAGE2....... ppls dont we miss days like this ??? ------> WACH --->> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGD9SUu5F60 ....... this is lineage2 i know you liked it.... this is pwp/pk god.... this is days where we found the game who is the best in the world.... and its wasnt be copy offer games!!! ..... now l2 god its pve...... LOL no trade system with shops, no fun.... only NPC..... FAIL NCsoft FAIL....... ya you created star wars....... at the end ---------->>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82D5***cF9Q
Go play Mario and leave us alone and stop spamming with this ******** . I play from C2 too and i was sick in last time doing all the time same things ( i come from private servers ). Game is very nice, a lot of new things now. Are a lot of private servers go and play there and LET US ALONE to play here.
Seriously stop comparing Lineage to WoW ...
First and foremost WoW has never and will never look remotely like L2 !
The GoD changes make L2 competitive !! You can see that by the 4 servers with HEAVY load and sometimes refusing logins due to high player count
Everything in GoD is WAY better than WoW, although the americans have blizzard cult anyway.
Even on second thought the new PK system is not so bad. I mean ... with thousands of players on farming grounds (not sieges) ... it would be a slaughter :D and brazilian players will start to leave because they've dropped their precious gear T_T also all the private server **** will leave when they taste the defeat.
I played before GoD in Naia and it wasn't that much fun as it is now. I had to wait HOURS for kamaloka in my level ranges. Now i just shout and i instantly get party and im doing it all ... hall of abyss and the labyrinth then i continue with the daily quests and making duels all the **** time and it is FUN to see skilled treasure hunter to pwn eva templar noob :D especially when im with the TH
IMO private servers can be even better than l2 god,becose you can feel pvp on priv servers...
Now what you got? quest,kamaloka,quest,kamaloka,quest drop top items, bb game...jezus chris nightmare l2....
Well almost everyone like, the revamped Lineage 2. If you not like it go play another game we not care about you. First of all private servers are the worst place to play with any game.
I love the Goddess of Destruction good job NCsoft!
Everyone here, joined here in Nov 2011 or Dec 2011: Go back to your own private server.
Where you have constant GM interference, 50% of the game non working, lots of custom ****, lots of MP potions, PK-all-you-want-till-you-drop, "pvp" and "own" lowbies, have your +384723 weapons, armors, jewels, a full epic jewel set, a custom-added uber weapon that 1 shots antharas and valakas in a AOE, have Baium fighting Queen Ant, Zaken as normal mob, monsters that drop 10.000.000 adena, a own GM alt. And leave this game for the real gamers that don't want to have everything within 1 week. Thanks.
Everyone here, joined here in Nov 2011 or Dec 2011: Go back to your own private server.
Where you have constant GM interference, 50% of the game non working, lots of custom ****, lots of MP potions, PK-all-you-want-till-you-drop, "pvp" and "own" lowbies, have your +384723 weapons, armors, jewels, a full epic jewel set, a custom-added uber weapon that 1 shots antharas and valakas in a AOE, have Baium fighting Queen Ant, Zaken as normal mob, monsters that drop 10.000.000 adena, a own GM alt. And leave this game for the real gamers that don't want to have everything within 1 week. Thanks.
Your knowledge of private servers is really something to look upon.
Do not make general assumptions on private servers. There are those that suck, there are those with very dedicated staff/good playerbase and there are those that are abominations. Some are very good servers, some are not. I have played a lot of L2, both here and private servers. There are ups and downs with "oficial" L2 and private L2, its not all doom and gloom for either sides. OFC GoD is now the real L2 and people need to simply suck it up and play the game, adapt and dont cry. If they cant, there is always the private reminescence of the past.
Not all people are good, not all people are bad. Same with private servers, same with online communities, same with all the world. Btw i meant no disrespect with my first quote.
I know I shouldn't have generalized about a people as a whole, but the influx of Brazilian players to free to play lineage2, seems to have brought down their name as an online community. A lot of people on the forums not all but a lot seem to be coming from Brazil.
I'm just tired of the complaints in half-***** English. I understand, if you don't speak a language and want to voice your opinion about something, but most of the unreadable drabble that is spout here is terrible.
I by no means speak the "Queens" English, but I at least try and make a statement that it readable and carries some merit, tasteless as it maybe, there is some merit to it.
Here in brazil we have a lot of 10years players that think they are the king of the game.
Oh, how I suffered playing f2p br games with those guys. Then I came to l2 thinking I'd be free of 'em. And there we go f2p... =\
And most of us don't like to spend money on games btw. If you could see the market behind pirate CD/DVD/Blu-Ray games in here u'd probably be horrified.
And still it's funny how people come here for their first time and the most ***** they find are players that joined before f2p lol
Not only are they put together on a grouped being insulted, they are somehow looked down on from "pro retail" players. I really wonder who is the whiny *** here.
I do admit I don't like the changes to the PK system. While I don't like all the random people coming and PKing you for the fun of it. The new PK system almost turns L2 in to the reason I hate playing faction games so much. Someone decides its fun to annoy you and KS all your quest mobs, and they get most because they have a faster hit rate. Now you can flag on them, and hope they flag back, which they won't, they will continue to laugh at you and continue to KS your mobs. If you do go and PK them, you might as well right that toon off.
Here in brazil we have a lot of 10years players that think they are the king of the game.
Oh, how I suffered playing f2p br games with those guys. Then I came to l2 thinking I'd be free of 'em. And there we go f2p... =\
And most of us don't like to spend money on games btw. If you could see the market behind pirate CD/DVD/Blu-Ray games in here u'd probably be horrified.
You seem respectable, I am glad you understand, I wish to extend my gratitude to your people.
And who cares for your ******* signature anime? WHO CARES WITCH ANIME YOU WATCHED LOL !! think about it before sleep
You are happy with new system? (*_* im happyyy player no kill me even once happy happy happy ! *_* )
I'm kid i need be care by Ncsoft ... **** !
Yours dream come true? just play safety and show everywhere your empowered wisdsom becose you are so awesome official fanboy player **** !
At least im not making mass qq on forum cuz i cant pk. Go back to your lame priv pls, and leave us in peace.
1. Yes...i like new system.
2. Yes...you are a kid... Good you can admit it.
Why this topic (and more, more, more...) are so lol? You dont need to play here! You are free to leave!
Here in brazil we have a lot of 10years players that think they are the king of the game.
Oh, how I suffered playing f2p br games with those guys. Then I came to l2 thinking I'd be free of 'em. And there we go f2p... =\
And most of us don't like to spend money on games btw. If you could see the market behind pirate CD/DVD/Blu-Ray games in here u'd probably be horrified.
Isnt Levelup a BR company that hosted Rising Force Online?
No world pvp, no free market system, 8 classes only, late game=pve only===> IT S WOW! That's why i dont play that **** anymore, it bores me.. GG ncsoft, you failed hard.
Bye bye, can I have your stuff?
The new pk system is rather harsh but it may change in future updates. This is a dynamic game, in other words, things change. So deal with it or move along.
Dont get me wrong but i think what would fix this:
create SOME HUUUUGE AREA where is pure pvp area , you port there you become chaotic ( Purple name ). and there are clans who wish to hold some areas to show WHO is stronger etc.
no idea why you cry so much about PK, today we PK'ed some untag enemies and cleaned karma in next 5min killing mobs. Nothing wrong with PK system, and actually with auto war accept it is hard to PK and lots of PVP.
Dont get me wrong but i think what would fix this:
create SOME HUUUUGE AREA where is pure pvp area , you port there you become chaotic ( Purple name ). and there are clans who wish to hold some areas to show WHO is stronger etc.
Something like that!
Already in the game, its the bi-weekly Castle Seiges. Also there are clan wars where you can kill each other to your hearts content.
But sometimes someone wants to try your patience by KS'ing you or telling you off in game, and you just need to hit that <Ctrl> button.
Dont get me wrong but i think what would fix this:
create SOME HUUUUGE AREA where is pure pvp area , you port there you become chaotic ( Purple name ). and there are clans who wish to hold some areas to show WHO is stronger etc.
Something like that!
purple is not chaotic
red is
Ontopic: I love the game in GoD. Easier to level up and get gear. Loads of people around and if you just stay flagged you will have a fight in less than 5 mins for sure. QQers are free to rage quit
The PK system is BS, and the fact that you only cant really take any skill from your old classes to your new class kinda hurts, it would have given the game more variety if every PC had his own prefered skill +30/+15/FS.
anyway, thats just what i think.
PS: BR`s are jerks, but not all of them... only the ones that play L2.
The PK system is BS, and the fact that you only cant really take any skill from your old classes to your new class kinda hurts, it would have given the game more variety if every PC had his own prefered skill +30/+15/FS.
anyway, thats just what i think.
PS: BR`s are jerks, but not all of them... only the ones that play L2.
huh?
Like I care about the rest of them? I don't get in touch with any other BR than the ones who play L2 so in your words all of them are jerks.
Like I care about the rest of them? I don't get in touch with any other BR than the ones who play L2 so in your words all of them are jerks.
You are a smart cookie, arent you.
When my friends got me to play WoW (friend invite bonus exp) I was able to reach level 80 (Max level at the time I played) within 22 days. I tho it would be great to get endgame so fast, and then I decided to start raiding but then I stopped (raids = too much drama over there) the only thing I had left was:
- Daily Quests (A lot of them)
- PVP (Arenas)
- PVP (Battlegrounds)
- PVP (winterhold or w/e its called)
So after I reached my top pvp gear within a week and half after after I got maxed level I quit the game because it was so boring.
I DO HOWEVER, understand why so many people like that game. The controls are easy, the fact that you can choose how you play (point click or wasd), the fact that you can choose how you level (daily quests, regular quests, grind, etc...) and the fact that the game can be customized to you (I had so many mods ,it not even funny)
My only suggestion to keep this game with alot of people is:
Try to add more ways for players to play whichever way he wants. If he wants to level without buffs, he should, it shouldn't be a punishment if you go around leveling without buffs (which is at the moment). NCSOFT, let us place how we want, and you will get money from this game, guaranteed.
Too busy to press keys in party... Haven't got a chance to type anything else except the skill shortcut keys....or the party will be affected...
Can we play more relaxed game and share some jokes with the party members??
Without use ventrilo, it is hard to chat in game when you in a party and you can't give out the vent info to any random people you meet in party..
well, you are not really playing the game unless you are using skype/ventrilo/ts to chat with your clannies.
When my friends got me to play WoW (friend invite bonus exp) I was able to reach level 80 (Max level at the time I played) within 22 days. I tho it would be great to get endgame so fast, and then I decided to start raiding but then I stopped (raids = too much drama over there) the only thing I had left was:
- Daily Quests (A lot of them)
- PVP (Arenas)
- PVP (Battlegrounds)
- PVP (winterhold or w/e its called)
So after I reached my top pvp gear within a week and half after after I got maxed level I quit the game because it was so boring.
I DO HOWEVER, understand why so many people like that game. The controls are easy, the fact that you can choose how you play (point click or wasd), the fact that you can choose how you level (daily quests, regular quests, grind, etc...) and the fact that the game can be customized to you (I had so many mods ,it not even funny)
My only suggestion to keep this game with alot of people is:
Try to add more ways for players to play whichever way he wants. If he wants to level without buffs, he should, it shouldn't be a punishment if you go around leveling without buffs (which is at the moment). NCSOFT, let us place how we want, and you will get money from this game, guaranteed.
says the person who leveled on nothing but vit. fail more.
Says the person who joined this month and probably came from a private server, because they couldn't handle the game even with +350% vit. You one of those BR they're talking about?
Says the person who joined this month and probably came from a private server, because they couldn't handle the game even with +350% vit. You one of those BR they're talking about?
I have to admit, I'm torn. I'm absolutely loving the massively increased player population in GoD. Warms the heart to log in to one of the new servers and see Gludio so congested you can barely see the ground. Feels like Prelude/C1 again :D
OTOH, the fact that it's free-to-play means you get all the self-entitled idiots who infest most other F2P MMOs out there. I often think that the $15/month cost on subscription MMOs acts as a bit of a barrier, keeping out at least some of the 12 year olds, the griefers, the "I want it now, and I want it for free" crowd.
On balance though, it was a smart move by NC. The update itself is pretty good. PK penalty is pretty harsh but it means you need a trustworthy clan behind you, which is what this game is really about. I feel like they went a ~bit~ overboard on the 1-60 levelling speed (it's so fast now that there is no point whatsoever trying to do any crafting or playing the market for D, C and B grades, since noone will invest in gear for a grade they are going to breeze through in a matter of days). But it still has an L2 feel in the high levels, and 90+ looks to be as tough as the old 75+ used to be, so there's still room for the hardcore, as well as the casual.
And yeah, the benefits of the increased player population outweighs the facts you get some F2P idiots now. I'm loving being actually able to find groups relatively easily! :) So overall, very well done NC. I think this is one of the most impressive updates (and I've played every single chronicle/throne/etc of L2, from open beta until now). Maybe the best? (though the C2->C3 update was pretty awesome too).
if u think GOD if fail go learn programming and write a game system as u want lmao. u suck when u go pk some1 coz they only want to lvl and u cant do nothing coz they not flag back.... why dun u leave them alone? and fine some other player else? i bet there is till player that ****** like u but just a few that.
PS. this topic is reply to the one that create this topic
i suggest some sort of tea with calming effects for the anger issues.
The pk system or any other system that would deal with griefers will only work if there is a gm to mediate, theres is a difference with ppl going around pking everyone or having to pk someone cus they are griefing you, the game has no way of telling this apart.
Have a free ventrilo with free access and invite the party matching ppl there, coordinating on vent makes the parties not only more fun but much more relaxed. Giving out ventrilo info is your choice after all. I dont party with ppl who dont use vent i got skills to use, every letter is one more skill i could have used, imagine the waste.
I will tell you guys what happened to my Dark Avenger.
I was hunting and some other mage kept harassing me and stealing all my mops just as I ran up to them. I eventually got mad and killed him. -400 karma no biggy.
Within the next hour or so three more people had tried to kill me so I fought back. Guess what? -1800 karma! Guess how much karma I got per mop, 1 sometimes 3 on whites. Guess how long that will take me to get rid of. And don't forget I have to worry about other people trying to kill me and the fact that I get 0 xp for the whole duration haha.
Well, lets just say I have made a gladiator since then and I am almost pasted my DA. 5 more days until the DA is deleted! w00t w00t!
I will tell you guys what happened to my Dark Avenger.
I was hunting and some other mage kept harassing me and stealing all my mops just as I ran up to them. I eventually got mad and killed him. -400 karma no biggy.
Within the next hour or so three more people had tried to kill me so I fought back. Guess what? -1800 karma! Guess how much karma I got per mop, 1 sometimes 3 on whites. Guess how long that will take me to get rid of. And don't forget I have to worry about other people trying to kill me and the fact that I get 0 xp for the whole duration haha.
Well, lets just say I have made a gladiator since then and I am almost pasted my DA. 5 more days until the DA is deleted! w00t w00t!
This ^^
Friend had -1800 on a 37 char due to KS, I spent an hour healing her while she killed at HV Tamlins Orcs(Yellow). In an hour she got down to 1550. WTF?!!? She rolled a clone the next day and passed her first char quickly. Now just have to wait the 7 days for the 1st one delete.
TL;DR Just delete the **** character and roll a new one.
Like I care about the rest of them? I don't get in touch with any other BR than the ones who play L2 so in your words all of them are jerks.
Agreed. I'm a brazilian but I always hide this fact in any game I play, due all the biased concept people built about brazilians based on the amount of ******s that got a their hands on the internet. But, to be honest, I have seems the same set of behavior in western euroepans, eastern europeans (those are the best, specially polish ones!), americans (those live in their never-ending "my pen is bigger than your!") and so on. Br's have as much of a grasp of nettiquete as all those greeks spamming the regional chat channel with their own language and thinking they're impressing the whole server ("OMG! They speak different words! they're cool!"). On Aion-EU almost every night we have an overflow of non-english chat on the LFG channel, even being english the official language in the server.
What really drags so much attention, more likely "hatred", toward brazilians is that they pack in groups and act like hyperactive kids. And they're so many. If it's "free", then they cling onto it.
But, again, they're not different from any other. They're just as brainless...
There really is no issue with GOD besides the PK system, minus that everything is a far improvement from what Lineage 2.
Like when I use to play back in c1-c4 it took me like 3-4 months to get my BH to lv 56, now today im lv 52 on my DA and its my 3rd day playing. Do I feel accomplished, hell no. but I feel like theres more to do and I'm not limited to just grinding and grinding so I can join uber elite clans and war each other end game (which by the way makes you kinda like the 1% of the real players (50% of dwarf shops, 5% confused as to why they picked elf fighter, 44% who had no idea how useless hunting in cata will be in about a few months))
So honestly its sacrificing the grind and rust from the old way things were, to bring life back into a great game, honestly the old way was great too, but how great will a game be when it will have 1000 active subscribers (non-bots) like seriously thats where it was heading.
So now the game is opened up with many options, I personally was never a fan of instance duengons but some people are, and that's involvement.
And today I saw a level 53 Raid boss outside of kama get killed by PUGs (pick-up groups), when was the last time you saw that activity.
I was extremely skeptical about god and very mad about losing my 3rd class, but I have to say, the game has been improved. Besides the pk system, R grade is going to be cheaper than B grade very soon; it drops and plunders like mad (got a weapon and robe top/bottom in ~1 hr in certain spot with dagger in party), and the auction house is going to drive prices very very low so almost everything is going to be attainable to everyone; therefore it will benefit new/poor players quite a bit. So though I lost my dearly loved Doombringer, my new class is quite strong and fun to play. All awakened toons are crazy strong and only needing 1 healer & 1 enchanter per party is nice; tho you now also always need Tank too. Frankly I like the smaller party size quite a lot, it now takes a lot less time to get a party up and running.
Erm, there always were abuses in the pk system, high levels killing lowbies, wich i didnt do it and i tought it sucked too... But the pk system was more than that, you could fight for your grinding spot and ppl would actually fight for it.. If some1 ksed you, you would try to pk them, and if they fight back, then you would have your pvp... What I m saying, right now, you get ksed all the time, specialy by one shot mages, that take all the mobs, and what can you do to defend your griding spot?? Beg * plix plox my mobs* OR leave like noob. Because everyone knows no1 will ever pk them!
^^^
THIS SOOOOOOOOOOOO HARD
Impunity for a-holes. Thought I'd give it a chance because it IS free.. but wow. No pun intended.
Yeah, I killed someone for KSing.. cowards gonna sit behind this mechanic getting rewarded with no repercussions.. am I supposed to petition because ranged char X has no courtesy or honor??
/tip my hat to those that don't KS. I don't, and expect the same courtesy. Melee does it too but ranged cowards take the cake.
If this is the case, should they not have implemented a single hit mob claim mechanic? I could at least work with something like that. As is? Already uninstalled.
Ive been playing this game official servers for many years, and there are some things in GOD that killed/are killing the game for me, just curious if anyone else is like this? Most people are very happy, and that's great but to me it seems like the game has had some strategy/'on your feet thinking' replaced for button mashing. Ive played a healer and a tank/dd. The healer 85+ seems very mindless. Although I think in time the pvp will get better as it is slowed down a bit and the PK-ing has been removed(basically). but the pve side seems like it was made easier, and less about the skill of the player. Previously timing on a healer was huge, and understanding how the game mechanics worked. Now it seems like they added a ton of heal over time stuff you you no longer need good timing, you have reduced reuse times on skills like blance life, and 100% full party regen every ten minutes so spamming MP has no penalty. It seems the new healer class will excel if he/she has good gear and does a lot of damage with the new offensive skills. The new aoe sleep is cool, but they really made this class MUCH easier to play and the challenge is totally gone.
Seems like a good healer is one that constantly spams, very mindless IMO, not much fun to play.
What's going on with NCSoft turning L2 into some wow genre game?? REally?
You killed world pvp with the changes in the Pk system, everyones afraid of atacking or killing som1, and every noob shout:"Are you gona pk me?" "U sure" "U mad?" .. Nice, u turn all l2 players into ******* cowards who dont give a fight.. Second, Auction, it s a good mechanic but you killed the second best thing about L2, the markets, where ppl actually had fun trading, barguing and buying stuff at awesome prices..Third, the end game has only about 8 classes(didnt count), and u can pick anything at lvl 1 and become wtv who want.. WTF is this??? Will anyone pick a stupid dwarf to lvl up, or a dagger type? Everyone will go for fast lvlers as nukers or aoe setups, GG, once again you did it, you killed half the classes that actually exist.. Finally, R grade dropable and non-exchangable at end-game, from instance only??? Really, will u kill the trading system just like that? Do you think i play L2 for the pvE fun ?? there are better games for that.... No world pvp, no free market system, 8 classes only, late game=pve only===> IT S WOW! That's why i dont play that **** anymore, it bores me.. GG ncsoft, you failed hard.
I don't know exactly how the new PvP system has changed from the previous to make people less likely to PvP. Can you elaborate on the differences between the old & new system...and what about those changes make people less likely to PvP?
I started playing again a few months before the GoD expansion and I've seen more random open field PvP in the last 2 weeks than I seen in the 2-3 months prior. This is at low levels by the way. PvP not being relegated to the "end game" echelon of players....SO TERRIBLE for the L2 community lol
As for the Auction House changes......people had to buy a 2nd Account just to move items if they felt like actually playing their characters while they were logged in. I like the idea of personal shops...but not at the expense of taking away from my play time. Also, the auction house takes a cut of the sell price. This means that the Auction House is not the end all be all place for selling items. Many players will still want to have private shops to retain more of their earnings.
As for NCSoft limiting available classes down to 8 (from all the variations of race specific similar classes)....I think it was probably in effort to help balance PvP. Balancing classes in L2 over all the expansions has been a joke. People like choices in these types of games....but what people don't understand is that with every class variation, there is another variable in balancing the equation. It becomes hard when you have 3 different Archers, Daggers...4 different tanks...5 buffers..etc. etc.
Narrowing this down to 8 makes the blance game easier
To make this straigtht here is what i got to say(ive played lots of RTS like BW and SC quite high lvl and been high end raider in wow for a while in my past. I found out about la2 recently just couse my sister asked me to try aion trial and i saw "truly free" icon somewhere realting to la2. Ive never played la2 before now):
Ppl who say that la2 is turned into wow are talking cheese, La2 is SO much harder and needs so much more effort to even "get the idea how interface works" etc, that u will never ever see kinda weird 5year olds playing la2 who are badass in WoW and care only about teasing and shiny epics. La2 is more related to oldschool IRC textmode mmos and all system here is heck of a lot harder than in wow. Im not stupid and i had hard hard time to learn basics in la2 and comprehend all this vast system how things work. WoW is so shiny and hollywoodish game/also part of its success was to appeal large audience. Ofcourse it was quite good around year 2004 i think. La2 is not about that shiny epicness.. even with recent changes im SURE it stays quite underground style mmo like it has been. Also now we see lots more new players and stuff will turn to be more interesting when theres more crowd around i assume^^^^
KSing = survival, if you don't KS here and there you will literally be stuck doing the lv 28-38 quests.
Thing is some people will ks even if there are other untouched mobs around to kill, and in my experience its 9 out of 10 times a BR is the one behind the KS, its just ridiculous.
besides, ive been part of lines to kill quest mobs in the main quest line pre 2nd transfer. so its not everyone that is a jerk
Most of you pro off players would be facerolled in some of privates, I have seen much more unskilled players here already than on many privates
so don't act so all mighty , only playing on off is not making you better than others
You have had this closed pay to play club for too long and you have no idea how hardcore can be some players who never play pay to play games and never donate
On topic
there are pros and cons
pros:
its free
it have large online
It will not be hacked so easy like private and there is no op donate
It will not have wipe like privates so you probably will have your acc after 5 years even if you are inactive
Everything is working ( mostly)
cons:
I have seen more bot protection on some privates than here so often I notice than ppl are just auto taking assist in party and when you ask them something they are not there
Having 20 players waiting for 1 quest mob to spawn in many quests is just so lame + you pk ksers is not an option any more
Having catacombs removed made finding good , empty 40-70 exp spot rly hard
Pk system - its made for 14y old pve lover
Dualboxing make you see things like 1 man playing whole party while others cant log in
But its done and only way to deal with is just to adept, hope next update will be better than this, and hope dev team is reading suggestions and making right decisions
As for the following comments like - "If you like privates go back there bla bla bla"
We are here to stay and we will complain if something is lame, if you don't like it - who the f*** care if you don't like it
Erm, there always were abuses in the pk system, high levels killing lowbies, wich i didnt do it and i tought it sucked too... But the pk system was more than that, you could fight for your grinding spot and ppl would actually fight for it.. If some1 ksed you, you would try to pk them, and if they fight back, then you would have your pvp... What I m saying, right now, you get ksed all the time, specialy by one shot mages, that take all the mobs, and what can you do to defend your griding spot?? Beg * plix plox my mobs* OR leave like noob. Because everyone knows no1 will ever pk them!
What private server are you from? How was it exactly you could fight back if someone KSed you?
You would only loose same amount of xp upon your first death, after that it escalated, do yo actually remember how many time you have to die at lower level?
It's the same thing as with new system. At high level you could get rid of much more karma compare to low level where you might had to end up loosing half of a level or more (mind it was much tougher back than, unless you on your priv server with x60 rates or whatever)
Point being there is no difference how you can protect your spot from KSers, they been there and always will.
First you cry you loose too much xp upon death. You get your way. Now you want to PK people and stay white. Yes, considering how easy it is at low level to level up it's ******ed to use kill res system to justify anything same as trying to justify why you had to PK someone on that level cause you grinding speed is on crack already.
EDIT: Mind another thing, why you doing you scrubby crying, actual PvPers still PvP.
Join a clan with clan war it will add some real excitement to your game, cause you will have to watch out for enemy everywhere you go (That is PVP Lineage 2 is famous for) instead of comfortably choosing your targets to PvP...errr I mean PK.
Thing is some people will ks even if there are other untouched mobs around to kill, and in my experience its 9 out of 10 times a BR is the one behind the KS, its just ridiculous.
besides, ive been part of lines to kill quest mobs in the main quest line pre 2nd transfer. so its not everyone that is a jerk
Is what it is, the majority (keyword: majority) of BR players play dirty. This new illogical PK system to prevent "griefing" disallows serious players the option to punish an annoying BR who follows you around and KSes you while spamming "huehuehue" for absolutely no reason at low levels (another form of griefing). Which is why, once I'm decked out with 6 boxed buffers (because anyone and their moms can mindlessly level several buffers at a time now), my end-game initiative is perma-red PKing in lowbie gear in areas such as ROD/ROA. =)
my end-game initiative is perma-red PKing in lowbie gear in areas such as ROD/ROA. =)
Sorry to pop your bubble, but there is a buff called "Blessing of Protection"
Only problem I have is that you no longer gain exp while red. Makes PKing ANY toon ;low, equal, high levels; completely counterproductive no matter what the situation.
Basically:
PK someone. Depending on rez they lose 5-20 minutes of exp. Oh well.
You get summoned to your super secret karma spot. Spend 30min-1hour working it off.
Congratulations. You just griefed yourself.
Other then that game is fine. Besides the loss of unique classes. But meh, they were mostly copies of each other in the first place.
Sorry to pop your bubble, but there is a buff called "Blessing of Protection"
A lot of people forget to or don't bother getting it. There was someone in B grade yesterday running around RoD dropping lowbies like flies.