SWS > BD pre awakening?

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i started l2 again after a long time i created a DE and went bd.

but what i saw now after checking all the patchnotes etc, is that sws are much better than bds pre awakening

both get same songs/dances combo buff BUT

a sws has much more usefull buffs than a bd like wind, water, ele protection, champion

so in my opinion is a sws more worth to play than a bd in pre awakening lvls

anyone else think the same ?

ps: dont qq about the 1 post count.....
BDs have more STR(more p atack), BDs have Hex(-23% enemy pdef) and power break(-23% p atack to enemy).
thats not the point any DE class has this skills and about patk its just good for PvE
but in pvp sws is more usefull in my opinion a party with a sws in pt will out run a pt with a bd while the sws got all the importand buffs of a bd
2. u have higher evasion well ok u can counter it with inspiration than but later than a melee pt miss song of champion and also ele protection


ps: iam not talking about solo xping or so iam talking about pvp/ grp things
thats not the point any DE class has this skills and about patk its just good for PvE
but in pvp sws is more usefull in my opinion a party with a sws in pt will out run a pt with a bd while the sws got all the importand buffs of a bd
2. u have higher evasion well ok u can counter it with inspiration than but later than a melee pt miss song of champion and also ele protection


ps: iam not talking about solo xping or so iam talking about pvp/ grp things

BD is as good as, BDs have 20% slow too, good against archers to decrease their speed a little.

SWS is a little more defensive, BD is a little more offensive.
I would say they are pretty similar atm.

I do prefer SWS for the wind buff, while doing dailies it gives u a bit of advantage getting that last mob, but that's about it
Fail topic. SwS are a little better party-wise due to a couple songs yes, but try to beat a BD with a SwS please. Im loving my BD, Hex > Anything a SwS has to offer, sorry.
Fail topic. SwS are a little better party-wise due to a couple songs yes, but try to beat a BD with a SwS please. Im loving my BD, Hex > Anything a SwS has to offer, sorry.

GL With Hex once my SoS lands
-All Rythems make it to both classes
-The other songs/dances you have outside of Rythems in terms of a party are situational, if you use these songs after buffing Rythems you will be out of mana in no time.
-In a party the only thing you should be using outside of the Rythems is Battle Whisper (if SWS) or the one for BD (dunno what it is) it's effects are similar to the Rythems but stack with it because its a self buff
-Elves and Dark Elves have their respective race skills, While a BD's are more offensive an Elves are more defensive
-Soloing is about the same, my 76 Sword Muse (with the promotional weapon) crits the mobs for the daily for about 2.6-3.7k dmg based on which mob it is, where my friend (77 Spec. Dancer) crits them with each sword for about 1.5-2.3k per hit on a crit. So both are about equal obviously BD has its adavantage in dding.

SWS can also do some minor tanking with Arrest having a provolk effect and with it lasting 10 seconds and only having a CD of 3 Seconds you can pretty much garauntee that the mob is always on you (not to mention how much fun this is in PVP when chasing those quick classes)
i started l2 again after a long time i created a DE and went bd.

but what i saw now after checking all the patchnotes etc, is that sws are much better than bds pre awakening

both get same songs/dances combo buff BUT

a sws has much more usefull buffs than a bd like wind, water, ele protection, champion

so in my opinion is a sws more worth to play than a bd in pre awakening lvls

anyone else think the same ?

ps: dont qq about the 1 post count.....

Sws have always been better at doing group pvp as you're party needs to live longer rather than dealing more damage in general. However, due to GoD you'll level so fast that you'll awaken in no time.

So, unsure what the best enchanter is? Maybe orc for auto UD, de for more evasion and running. It's really hard to tell at this time and pvping pre-awakening is a bit silly. Given how fast you lvl now.

In short, try and lvl fast and figure it all out when you awaken (most enchanters should be somewhat equal, so it shouldn't matter too much). Plus, awakened classes seem to play much different in comparison to third classes...

Haven't played the ISS enchanter though, but Ace does have a lvl 76 sws.