I was very glad when I reached lvl 55. What I thought was "At last, I will gain steal divinity now and I will be no match for other players of my level". Imagine now my sadness when I came to the conclusion that steal divinity was not working. I tried to use it over 10 times on other players whose level was even 4 levels smaller than mine. It didn' t even land once. Steal divinity was a skill that ALWAYS worked, even if the other char was over 10 levels higher than me and it gave us soul hounds a big help. Please, make something about it. I am still able to beat most of my own level, but not as easily as I would with steal divinity. Especially with mages, I' ve got a big problem. After all, the reason for which I made a kamael was for this particular skill. It will be sad if I am forced to make a new class. There will be many of you that will yell at me and say that that' s how it should be, those of u that DON' T have a SH class. That' ll be very egoistic of you and I hope that u won' t do it.
Oh no they removed win button! You gotta use the brain now! O:
It was not a win button. I know many occasions before GoD that other classes owned SHs. A SH was a pvp class, hence better in pvp than most classes, that' s all... That' s what they were good at, killing. If they lose this now, what will they be usable for? Not good at raids, not as good in grinding as another mage class, just good on 1 vs 1 (in the past). Now, they' re not bad, but they certainly don' t kick @sses as they used to...
SLH is not just steal divinity, it was a skill totally overpowered, it never failed it stealed many buffs and the reuse was very short, seriously don't you see it was extremely unfair and unbalanced? I know you lose one skill and it sucks but hell you still got a good set of skills for all situations you can teleport everywhere so tanks cannot reach you, if you get rooted you can remove it, you can remove any debuff you receive! you can nuke fighters and deathmark+checkmate robe users for insane damage....seriously SLH is way more than steal divinity.
SLH is not just steal divinity, it was a skill totally overpowered, it never failed it stealed many buffs and the reuse was very short, seriously don't you see it was extremely unfair and unbalanced? I know you lose one skill and it sucks but hell you still got a good set of skills for all situations you can teleport everywhere so tanks cannot reach you, if you get rooted you can remove it, you can remove any debuff you receive! you can nuke fighters and deathmark+checkmate robe users for insane damage....seriously SLH is way more than steal divinity.
I shall agree with u with what u say... Almost... They could at least have removed some other skill from the SH, but for god' s shake, NOT STEAL DIVINITY! SLH may still be a relatively good class at pvp, but not the best anymore. From now on, it will be very difficult for me to cope with tanks that will repeatedly stun me, not to mention the mage classes, who' ll be able to deal heavy damage on me from a big distance. Before, I could just let them hit me sometimes till I stole their buffs... Then they were just dead, but now... Now I don' t know what I' ll do. Checkmate is a nice skill indeed, but to have an effect on the opponent, I must 1st cast death mark on the opp (it might not even work) and then reach him (in the meantime he will have reduced my hp to half, if not more). I pray that they' ll make it as it was in the next update...
With ur last coment, you just proved it IS a win button.
I never use it and win, except gladiators, tanks are piece of cake.
And mentor buffs cannot be stolen as they are "infinite" as long as mentor is logged in.
There's nothing gonna be done in the next update regarding this, this was a move to make all classes able to stand a chance.
No more "omg OP slh noob", and why they said that? Cause it was true. I was a noob, using an OP class and winning :) Now i'm not a noob, and im not an OP char with SD and win. Buffs are 70% of your arsenal in this game, without them youre as good as a level 45 char.
One word of knowledge, nobody is gonna agree with you here, and i mean NOBODY, only people who lack confidence using this class. This is l2 official, don't expect people to sympathyze with you over an OP skill that has been wanted to be deleted or nerfed by 90% of the server population for the past years.
"At last, I will gain steal divinity now and I will be no match for other players of my level"
I think you mean other players won't be a match for you.
With ur last coment, you just proved it IS a win button.
I never use it and win, except gladiators, tanks are piece of cake.
And mentor buffs cannot be stolen as they are "infinite" as long as mentor is logged in.
There's nothing gonna be done in the next update regarding this, this was a move to make all classes able to stand a chance.
No more "omg OP slh noob", and why they said that? Cause it was true. I was a noob, using an OP class and winning :) Now i'm not a noob, and im not an OP char with SD and win. Buffs are 70% of your arsenal in this game, without them youre as good as a level 45 char.
One word of knowledge, nobody is gonna agree with you here, and i mean NOBODY, only people who lack confidence using this class. This is l2 official, don't expect people to sympathyze with you over an OP skill that has been wanted to be deleted or nerfed by 90% of the server population for the past years.
"At last, I will gain steal divinity now and I will be no match for other players of my level"
I think you mean other players won't be a match for you.
If it wasn' t supposed to be like this, then why has it been like this for the past 2-3 years??...
Complaints? It's usual from nc to take YEARS to give something good to a class or make it more balanced.
Remember linemage times?
According to what u' re sayin', the current PK system will be eliminated in a couple of years, am i right??... Anyway, the classes were balanced as they were. Like I said, even with steal divinity, Soul Hounds got beaten sometimes...
According to what u' re sayin', the current PK system will be eliminated in a couple of years, am i right??... Anyway, the classes were balanced as they were. Like I said, even with steal divinity, Soul Hounds got beaten sometimes...
Are you some kind of a dumb forum troll? What kind of a post is this?... If they ruined the class you play with, wouldn' t you get upset??...
No one ruined your class, just from being insanely overpowered it became balanced. Stop crying and get over it. Even you said that before steal divinity nerf you were no match for others so obviously there was something wrong with this skill.
No one ruined your class, just from being insanely overpowered it became balanced. Stop crying and get over it. Even you said that before steal divinity nerf you were no match for others so obviously there was something wrong with this skill.
No match for the most! That' s how it should be! And there was balance... SLHs owned in pvps, but were not wanted in boss parties, neither were they so valuable during sieges (Doombringers were). Each class had its usability and its own skills that made it unique. What I wanna say is... If SLHs lose this trait (the fact that they are the best in pvp) they lose everything. They' ll remain a mediocre pvp class with no other traits... Something more that I wanted to add is the fact that WC/OL no longer lose their mp fast because they also drain mp now. Epic fail NCsoft. Giving a boost in some classes, whereas reducing some others' power by a lot? Either they should have improved every classe' s power, or reduced it, that' s how it should go.
Are you some kind of a dumb forum troll? What kind of a post is this?... If they ruined the class you play with, wouldn' t you get upset??...
I played an SE when they were the apex of support classes, then watched as they were eclipsed by others. I played a destroyer when they were the apex of PvE, then watched as they were nerfed repeatedly.
You played a radioactive chicken that now has to work a little harder to PvP. I think you can deal with it. It's not broken, it's fixed.
Ask Necros how they nerfed their Para. Ask Destros how they nerfed their totems. Or ask daggers how they recently nerfed their stabs.
Just get over it, reading what you write I think you do not want to play any class because you like it and want to master it, but because it's "iWin" button.
I do agree, but please read what I wrote before... The SLHs' job is to kill, the support classes' job is to support, the Doombringers' job is to kick ***** during sieges and so on... Like I said, each class has its own traits that make it better than others in specific ways...
if steal got Nerf you get back power back from old nerf chronicles as decent accuracy, critical power ?
Well anyway soulhound are totally mage base today.
I got nothing... The class is simply much less powerful than it used to be. Many other classes got important boosts, but that did not happen with SLHs... The opposite I would say...
Soulhound awakens to Feoh Wizard, the most overpowered class in the game ever. so no, soulhounds got the biggest BOOST ever.
and you still feel the need to cry?
stop pvping low levels and get to a level that matters. then you have the right to come here and cry.
Yeah, if I ever get to those levels I will be among the 12.5% best of the server, if not less (since everyone now makes mage classes), whereas before GoD, I would be among the 3% of the best... I think that I would prefer the 2nd option...
Yeah, if I ever get to those levels I will be among the 12.5% best of the server, if not less (since everyone now makes mage classes), whereas before GoD, I would be among the 3% of the best... I think that I would prefer the 2nd option...
you are crying because you have 1 skill that made you kill everyone?
that sounds like you have a lack of skills using your character bro
It's why i used to always put as many Useless buffs at the end whenever i went to go pvp with them in Oly or wherever. So they take the bad buffs since it always works. Put my core ones first, then the less important and then the ones that are pointless like Kiss of eva, poison resist, invigor and so on. The idea that they do it now make things a hell of a lot easier for me. But if you need that steal divinity to win, you really SUCK at that class. I've played it before, pvp and pve. It really gets a nice set of skills. So they finally reduced the rate of the steal divinity, so what? It was OP. They have other skills that you can use. Learn how to play your class. Even soul hounds that i talked to in the past admitted it was OP. Atleast it isn't nerfed as much as the Sorc's buff cancel skill. Should be glad it isn't that bad.
you are crying because you have 1 skill that made you kill everyone?
that sounds like you have a lack of skills using your character bro
That' s right pal, I cry because I lost a skill of great importance. If it weren' t so important, I would not have a reason to cry now, would I??...How would you feel if the greatest skill of your class got nerfed? Would you be okay with it? I don' t think so, I believe that you would act like me. You would complain about it...
It's why i used to always put as many Useless buffs at the end whenever i went to go pvp with them in Oly or wherever. So they take the bad buffs since it always works. Put my core ones first, then the less important and then the ones that are pointless like Kiss of eva, poison resist, invigor and so on. The idea that they do it now make things a hell of a lot easier for me. But if you need that steal divinity to win, you really SUCK at that class. I've played it before, pvp and pve. It really gets a nice set of skills. So they finally reduced the rate of the steal divinity, so what? It was OP. They have other skills that you can use. Learn how to play your class. Even soul hounds that i talked to in the past admitted it was OP. Atleast it isn't nerfed as much as the Sorc's buff cancel skill. Should be glad it isn't that bad.
I didn' t say that I need steal divinity to win, but it makes my life as a SLH much easier. I can still own in pvp most of the people of my level (I am only lvl 57 and I already have a PvP count of 40), apart from archers and sometimes tanks (mostly because of stun), who know well how to play their characters.
Nothing good will come out of this topic, people will continue to bash you and nothing will change. Better forget about it and move one..remember at tthe end it's just 8 classes, no one is different anymore.
I happen to be a SOUL HOUND. That' s why i complain...
I didn' t say that I need steal divinity to win, but it makes my life as a SLH much easier. I can still own in pvp most of the people of my level (I am only lvl 57 and I already have a PvP count of 40), apart from archers and sometimes tanks (mostly because of stun), who know well how to play their characters.
SHs were VERY op before they were nerfed. Now one has to actually think a little to win in PVP instead of spamming SD and then walking all over the other players :)
I was very glad when I reached lvl 55. What I thought was "At last, I will gain steal divinity now and I will be no match for other players of my level". Imagine now my sadness when I came to the conclusion that steal divinity was not working. I tried to use it over 10 times on other players whose level was even 4 levels smaller than mine. It didn' t even land once. Steal divinity was a skill that ALWAYS worked, even if the other char was over 10 levels higher than me and it gave us soul hounds a big help. Please, make something about it. I am still able to beat most of my own level, but not as easily as I would with steal divinity. Especially with mages, I' ve got a big problem. After all, the reason for which I made a kamael was for this particular skill. It will be sad if I am forced to make a new class. There will be many of you that will yell at me and say that that' s how it should be, those of u that DON' T have a SH class. That' ll be very egoistic of you and I hope that u won' t do it.
QQ MOAR I am Soul Breaker lvl 61, in earlier 57 me and a paladin friend plus an ee killed full party with warlord, destroyer, bishop, dagger, necro dwarft and cat summoner
today, without healer the same tank and me managed to kill a party with ee, 3x spellsingers 1 dwarft and 1 hawkeye
i did not use steal divinity even once in these pvps... I am more than sure that you suck using soul breaker, so you should rerroll to a new class
SOUL HOUND/BREAKER IS NOT ONLY ABOUT STEALING BUFFS NOOB
QQ MOAR I am Soul Breaker lvl 61, in earlier 57 me and a paladin friend plus an ee killed full party with warlord, destroyer, bishop, dagger, necro dwarft and cat summoner
today, without healer the same tank and me managed to kill a party with ee, 3x spellsingers 1 dwarft and 1 hawkeye
i did not use steal divinity even once in these pvps... I am more than sure that you suck using soul breaker, so you should rerroll to a new class
SOUL HOUND/BREAKER IS NOT ONLY ABOUT STEALING BUFFS NOOB
Group pvp dynamics is far different than solo PvPing. What you' re referring to is the 1st one, whereas my post is related to the 2nd one, so I am afraid that I' ve got to tell you that you are OFF TOPIC!
Im a 77 Soulhound right now, and I have my Steal Divinity enchanted to +5 chance to land. It still lands enough for me to notice. It's not EVERY time, but it's also not 1/100.
It -is- kind of **** now, though. Like a 25% chance (unenchanted, not that anyone's splurging millions on enchanted skills for pvp pre-awakening) to steal a low tier buff like attack aura/deflect arrow (though that one's decent). Seems completely unable to steal a song/dance, as far as testing goes.
And when I say -a- buff I mean -a- buff. Not up to 4 like it says, just one, and never more than one.
Group pvp dynamics is far different than solo PvPing. What you' re referring to is the 1st one, whereas my post is related to the 2nd one, so I am afraid that I' ve got to tell you that you are OFF TOPIC!
you know, this game is meant to be played IN groups, maybe you'll enjoy playing rakion, that game does not require a group go try luck there
If you think posts like this one are bad you should read his other posts, ultimatly it narrows down to everyone being dumb or not knowing how to read except for the OP.
ah panodontas
you're post are very amusing to me. i love my soulhound whether it has steal divinity or not. the nuke that makes u lose target <3
i hope to see more threads and posts from you, i like to laugh each day
ah panodontas
you're post are very amusing to me. i love my soulhound whether it has steal divinity or not. the nuke that makes u lose target <3
i hope to see more threads and posts from you, i like to laugh each day
Looking at the amount of topics he started lately, you are going to have an amusing week, sir.
Looking at the amount of topics he started lately, you are going to have an amusing week, sir.
Most of you disagree with me, because there are only a few people playing SLHs, not that you find wrong what I say. Most of you disagree with me, because you dual-box, not because you think that dual-boxing should be the rule and not the exception. Most of you disagree with me, because you are bots and so on...
Like I said, I botted for 10 days and then quit, haven' t been a bot since 2 years, so yeah, I am not a bot. Seems funny, though, that you keep mocking me about the type of my posts, since u' ve got nothing to say. I make a suggestion, some agree with me and some others don' t, but since L2 forum' s community is one of the dumbest ever, I receive insulting comments by people who think that they' re the best. Instead of insulting me about my posts, they should suggest things on their own. Offending others do not make them any better.
P.S. I really laughed when you stated in another post of mine that I should get banned in L2 Official for having been a bot in a Greek private server 2 years ago.
I'm 80 lvl already.. after i got steal divinity.. used it few times.. and saw that i stole only 1 buff in 10+ pvps.. so i just removed it from skill bar..1 more spot for extra pot or anything else..XD
Maybe if I don't reply to his post, he might go away on his own.
Do you think that you are being funny or something atm? Well, let me tell you that you are not. I can understand the reasons for which most of you wouldn' t like the SLHs to have a skill such as Steal Div., but that doesn' t mean that you are right and I am wrong.
Do you think that you are being funny or something atm? Well, let me tell you that you are not. I can understand the reasons for which most of you wouldn' t like the SLHs to have a skill such as Steal Div., but that doesn' t mean that you are right and I am wrong.
Sigh, you like repeating the same ****, don't you?
So let me make you a short guide how it works!
Once upon a time, there was a skill, called Steal Divinity. It was overpowered, so they nerfed it in a recent update.
So, it was nerfed, because it was overpowered, got it?
If it wasn't overpowered, it wouldn't be nerfed.
Now, let us proceed to the next step. You are asking to undo this nerf.
Which would totally make NCSoft devs ******ed and considered to not know what are they doing, since they would be changing skills back and forth!
So they would first nerf an overpowered skill, then make it overpowered again, I believe it's understandable. Next step.
The days when levels below 85 mattered are over. There's a good newbie quest line and somewhat balanced classes (I could imagine they'll buff prophets a bit, though). There is no way in hell, that manager and devs would waste manpower, money and time on meaningless actions, such as ruining the balance of classes below level 85, for they're probably not in the financial situation to screw around like that if they want to.
Sigh, you like repeating the same ****, don't you?
So let me make you a short guide how it works!
Once upon a time, there was a skill, called Steal Divinity. It was overpowered, so they nerfed it in a recent update.
So, it was nerfed, because it was overpowered, got it?
If it wasn't overpowered, it wouldn't be nerfed.
Now, let us proceed to the next step. You are asking to undo this nerf.
Which would totally make NCSoft devs ******ed and considered to not know what are they doing, since they would be changing skills back and forth!
So they would first nerf an overpowered skill, then make it overpowered again, I believe it's understandable. Next step.
The days when levels below 85 mattered are over. There's a good newbie quest line and somewhat balanced classes (I could imagine they'll buff prophets a bit, though). There is no way in hell, that manager and devs would waste manpower, money and time on meaningless actions, such as ruining the balance of classes below level 85, for they're probably not in the financial situation to screw around like that if they want to.
TL;DR: not going to happen, bye.
Well, I am gonna say this for the hundredth time. SLHs were killing machines, that was their purpose, they HAD to be better in PvPs than other classes. However, when grinding or farming bosses, they were not wanted, for they were unable to deal as much damage on a boss as a nuker, plus they were not able to buff (still they aren't). Knight classes' purpose was to be able to deal with heavy strikes and not die, support classes' purpose was to buff others and make then more powerful. Doombringers' purpose was to own in clan wars and in castle sieges, for they were able to hit many enemies at once and stun them. See? I have to admit that SLHs DID own in PvPs, but they sucked in other things such as the ones that I stated above. As I have already stated, each class had its own traits that made it unique.
Well, I am gonna say this for the hundredth time. SLHs were killing machines, that was their purpose, they HAD to be better in PvPs than other classes. However, when grinding or farming bosses, they were not wanted, for they were unable to deal as much damage on a boss as a nuker, plus they were not able to buff (still they aren't). Knight classes' purpose was to be able to deal with heavy strikes and not die, support classes' purpose was to buff others and make then more powerful. Doombringers' purpose was to own in clan wars and in castle sieges, for they were able to hit many enemies at once and stun them. See? I have to admit that SLHs DID own in PvPs, but they sucked in other things such as the ones that I stated above. As I have already stated, each class had its own traits that made it unique.
So what?
Tell me which of the following you can't do due to new changes:
a.) level up
b.) PvP
From what I heard, people still can PvP with that class. And PvE shouldn't be a problem up until 85 either, then you won't be SLH anymore.
Or just make a fast comparison: There're prophets. They can't be support, they can't tank, they can't PvP and they can't PvE efficiently, making it a hell for them to reach level 85. Whereas you can easily solo or join parties, or even PvP if you feel like that way.
And also for the hundredth time: not going to happen.
So what?
Tell me which of the following you can't do due to new changes:
a.) level up
b.) PvP
From what I heard, people still can PvP with that class. And PvE shouldn't be a problem up until 85 either, then you won't be SLH anymore.
Or just make a fast comparison: There're prophets. They can't be support, they can't tank, they can't PvP and they can't PvE efficiently, making it a hell for them to reach level 85. Whereas you can easily solo or join parties, or even PvP if you feel like that way.
And also for the hundredth time: not going to happen.
I can both level up and pvp. However, before GoD, "mages" leveled up faster than me, but were much worse on 1 vs 1. Now, they still level up much faster than me and I would say that, if not better, they are equal with me on PvP. So, better on grinding, equal on PvPing, better on bosses. Now, this doesn' t seem very fair, does it?
I can both level up and pvp. However, before GoD, "mages" leveled up faster than me, but were much worse on 1 vs 1. Now, they still level up much faster than me and I would say that, if not better, they are equal with me on PvP. So, better on grinding, equal on PvPing, better on bosses. Now, this doesn' t seem very fair, does it?
There are dwarves who are probably worse in both PvP and grinding compared to you.
There're prophets who maybe kill one mob, while you clean the map. They barely have any chance to win a PvP against someone who is afk. They'll probably never get a party, as there's no need for their buffs and they don't deal considerable damage or don't do anything useful to their team.
Now, this doesn't seem very fair, does it?
You can do just PvP fine and grind fine as well. There's no need to complain just because your class is not the best in everything. If I see a prophet complaining, I can understand it. Just roll a prophet then come back to tell us that SLHs are such worthless creatures ever since GoD.
There are dwarves who are probably worse in both PvP and grinding compared to you.
There're prophets who maybe kill one mob, while you clean the map. They barely have any chance to win a PvP against someone who is afk. They'll probably never get a party, as there's no need for their buffs and they don't deal considerable damage or don't do anything useful to their team.
Now, this doesn't seem very fair, does it?
You can do just PvP fine and grind fine as well. There's no need to complain just because your class is not the best in everything. If I see a prophet complaining, I can understand it. Just roll a prophet then come back to tell us that SLHs are such worthless creatures ever since GoD.
They' re certainly not worthless, just not as good as they used to be. I guess that it actually annoyed me so much, because I had become used to winning almost every battle. Nevermind...
P.S. By the way, life for prophets may be difficult, but that' s the reason for which you won' t see many on the map anymore...
They' re certainly not worthless, just not as good as they used to be. I guess that it actually annoyed me so much, because I had become used to winning almost every battle. Nevermind...
P.S. By the way, life for prophets may be difficult, but that' s the reason for which you won' t see many on the map anymore...
Well, life of SLH might be difficult for you, so reroll to mage.