Bartz: Vote on Castle Siege Times!

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Lineage II players hail from around the world. Currently we support one European-timezone server, and the rest are Central Time USA. Because players from various time zones play at different hours and from different locations, we want to make the most popular scheduled server activities available to everyone. Therefore, players are invited to vote on the Castle Siege times for the Bartz server!

Visit the Bartz Server Poll (http://www.lineage2.com/en/news/events/vote-on-bartz.php) website page for the full details, instructions, and a link to the poll itself. Enjoy! :)
I saw that other new servers got their sieges twice faster then the almost 6 weeks Bartz needs to wait. This is dissapointing as Bartz characters level faster then the other 2 new servers.

Edit: I really think that Januari 8th would be a good date to start sieges.
I saw that other new servers got their sieges twice faster then the almost 6 weeks Bartz needs to wait. This is dissapointing as Bartz characters level faster then the other 2 new servers.

Edit: I really think that Januari 8th would be a good date to start sieges.

You don't get any more exp in bartz than any of the other servers so i don't understand why you think bartz characters level faster than the other servers?

To all you EU people that wanted an EU servers: This is your chance. Go make yourself an EU server. If it becomes an NA timed server I'm gonna laugh to no end.
I'm not on Bartz but I have got to say this is a FANTASTIC thing you're doing! Thank you! While I doubt there's enough of a Hawai'i contingent to tip odds into my favor (:p), its great to see this. I've played City of Heroes for years, with our SG meetup being a compromise time for the US and EU players, so hopefully a good time can be arranged that doesn't require getting up before the roosters or staying up all night ^_^
So i think this is ******ed.

19 -8GMT was winning by 15 votes earlier today.

NOW THERE IS NO VOTES FOR 7 PM PST????????

So did they reset the votes?? because i cant vote again for a time...

this is ********.
So who`s Genius Idea at ncsoft was it to let Bartz ... a UNITED STATES SERVER to even consider to have BRAZILIAN times... MAKE A EURO SERVER FOR THEM AN LEAVE OUR SERVERS ALONE!!!!!
So who`s Genius Idea at ncsoft was it to let Bartz ... a UNITED STATES SERVER to even consider to have BRAZILIAN times... MAKE A EURO SERVER FOR THEM AN LEAVE OUR SERVERS ALONE!!!!!

Genius brazil isn't from euro lol
You don't get any more exp in bartz than any of the other servers so i don't understand why you think bartz characters level faster than the other servers?


I will explain why, sorry i thought it was obvious. Due to the fact that there was a Vitality event when Bartz started and not when the other servers started the majority of players had always their 'VP' bar (partially)full all the time .
This resulted in having many awakened characters already after 6 days.

Since awakened characters have mentees earlier etc the xp boost is excelled after these 6 days thus resulting in even more 85+ chars now.
This is a super idea NCwest! This is the best idea, how you can decide, when would be the best time to castle sieges.

So huge respect to you all! That was great idea!
well atm its 2pm Moscow time, in the running 2nd by 2 pm MST Go edmonton go lol
You don't get any more exp in bartz than any of the other servers so i don't understand why you think bartz characters level faster than the other servers?

To all you EU people that wanted an EU servers: This is your chance. Go make yourself an EU server. If it becomes an NA timed server I'm gonna laugh to no end.

I bet the 05:00 GMT-6 will win...Man getting up before 05:00 on a Sunday to siege is gonna SUUUUCK :rolleyes:
Lineage II players hail from around the world. Currently we support one European-timezone server, and the rest are Central Time USA. Because players from various time zones play at different hours and from different locations, we want to make the most popular scheduled server activities available to everyone. Therefore, players are invited to vote on the Castle Siege times for the Bartz server!

Visit the Bartz Server Poll (http://www.lineage2.com/en/news/events/vote-on-bartz.php) website page for the full details, instructions, and a link to the poll itself. Enjoy! :)

Wow open an NA server tell everyone expect NA times and then two weeks later have a vote? Typical NCsoft West. Perhaps the wrong people where laid off......
It will be quite disappointing if the sieges times are geared for the euro time zone. It would have been nice to know this was not going to be a NA time zone server prior to the launch of the server.

In the future maybe do these kind of polls prior to release of the server?
^ Make a North American Server with Euro Times.. but when the server is released tell them its a North American Server AND CHANGE IT!!! FTW!!!

NCSOFT WEST FOR THE LOSS!!!
+!10 to ncsoft I am a cst player but i do agree with the euro players we need to make homes for everyone. and i understand there is a euro server set but also know that it does not compare to the us set. if us sucked i would play in the euro set so enjoy. and vote!
Good job NCSoft? wtf are you guys smoking? its NC WEST ! why would you ******* put your AMERICAN server on Euro time? if the freaking europeans wants euro time just get the **** on Innova? you guys said it was an AMERICAN server, put AMERICAN timezone. and when you want to make a poll, make it IP/vote you idiots, not vote/accoutn with lvl 20.... lvl 20 takes less than 30 mins to make, how accurate is this poll going to be you think? LOL.

GOOD JOB ONCE AGAIN NC FAIL!
2pm mst is in the lead now... go edmonton go!!!!
hehe nice all seems that the siege time will be at 23:00 in my Country :) that's perfect for me keep on for voting for that! :D
Hey american kids who ever told you the server will be in eu time zone? Its a pool to change a little the time for main events like seage or oly so most of eu players dont need to be awake at 2 am and 4 am for seage or oly.
And why you hate everyone outside US so much? Did your parents told you to do so? Or you are just born haters? And remember to be in peace with everyone you first must be in peace with yourself!;)
Hey american kids who ever told you the server will be in eu time zone? Its a pool to change a little the time for main events like seage or oly so most of eu players dont need to be awake at 2 am and 4 am for seage or oly.
And why you hate everyone outside US so much? Did your parents told you to do so? Or you are just born haters? And remember to be in peace with everyone you first must be in peace with yourself!;)

Thats quite a statement. I dont think anyone is making any hate speeches here. We were all told they were opening only us time zone servers. It has nothing to do with hate.
Thanks ncsoft!! We'd like some fresh european server aswell.
I dont even play bartz anymore. And I get that you guys hate Innova, whatever.
But there is already one dedicated Euro server. Bartz was announced as a US server.
So it's completely hypocritical of NC to bend over and take it from Euro players.
Well, if the results so far are correct, the siege times won't change much from the standard US times anyway (currently the poll results are 22:00 GMT+1 - if that's supposed to be the time for the first siege, then it is nearly the same as the current times on Chronos, which are 23:00 GMT+1 and 3:00 GMT+1).
Sace, do this vote also apply to Olympiad hours ?
So who`s Genius Idea at ncsoft was it to let Bartz ... a UNITED STATES SERVER to even consider to have BRAZILIAN times... MAKE A EURO SERVER FOR THEM AN LEAVE OUR SERVERS ALONE!!!!!

Genius brazil isn't from euro lol

ROFL Made me really LOL

Gotta agree though... Why make a new server withouth (EU) indication to it, and when the server is up & running ask 2 weeks later what times sieges will be? I'd say let Bartz be a US server (as probably intended), and add an extra EU server...
hi :)
most funny poll ever , i hope at least the poll evaluation will work a bit^^
but the livetime of this (my) post will be shorter then the adminstrative time of the NC marketing department will use to influence the final result of this poll.

anyhow, try have fun playing on the Bartz server. And try analyse the curve from http://bartz.kaifas.lt/

btw, the ascendig curve means: ppl are login!!! , more and more!! ;)
and after the meridian the player will: start logging out :)

so guess what a good time for siege is ;)
I will explain why, sorry i thought it was obvious. Due to the fact that there was a Vitality event when Bartz started and not when the other servers started the majority of players had always their 'VP' bar (partially)full all the time .
This resulted in having many awakened characters already after 6 days.

Since awakened characters have mentees earlier etc the xp boost is excelled after these 6 days thus resulting in even more 85+ chars now.

You pretty much need to be awakened to attend sieges. First sieges on Shilen and only one castle was taken. Most thought none would be taken, it's better that it happens later so more people can participate in first sieges.
Sace, do this vote also apply to Olympiad hours ?

No, Castle Sieges only.


Please note that the poll now closes 1 hour earlier than originally planned. The vote details page has been updated and a website news announcement was made to notify the community of the change. As of now, there are about 3 hours left before the poll closes.
And results are ?

GMT+1 ?
All the americans complaining: why are you making characters on an EU server? We have only 1 and it is so heavy that it crashes 5 times per day. Yes please make an other server with EU time such that all new players go there or brazilian times such that I can login at least at night.

Other thing, people go naia also because there they can get a mentor and level in a few weeks to 85. People don't want to go to ipaynova and I don't want to go because no way I start from 0.

Perhaps you can block all american (north and south) from naia if they have no character there already?
Innova is a total fail, all they do is sorry for this dorry for that

they only break lineage2 trademark.
I think there's room for another europe time server.
But I think it should be a new server so people dont feel screwed.

Just my opinion
But there is already one dedicated Euro server. Bartz was announced as a US server.
So it's completely hypocritical of NC to bend over and take it from Euro players.

Lol? Is this comunism? Why to not have posibility to choose my l2 provider?
As far as i can see Bartz will be GMT-4? Are you kidding me?
Server which intended to be EU server is Brazilian now!

Why poll is closed?....
As far as i can see Bartz will be GMT-4? Are you kidding me?
Server which intended to be EU server is Brazilian now!

Why poll is closed?....

Poll ended, GMT -4 hmmm in EU we have 21:44 now so they have 18:45

too bad if sieges will start 20:00 21:00 thier time
We started to play on Bartz cause there was a chance for EU time zone.
Now you change other server time zones and Bartz which supposed to be good for us, remains very bad.. :) (Europe is like 75% GMT+1, so GMT-4 means sieges during the night)

I have a question. Will be possible to transfer character: Bartz -> Megmeld or Shilen, after you finally set time zones for each server ?

(sorry for my english)
Imo make Bartz gmt+1 -1 :)
You will set time zone on Bartz GMT-4 and here you have.
Check when community is rising up. GMT-4? Really? I donąt think so.

Set Bartz GMT+1 because server majority is from Europe!

http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/948/56wykres.jpg

GMT-4 server's schedule for Europeans :
sieges : 21:00 - 23:00 and 1:00 - 3:00
territory war : 1:00 - 3:00
olympiad : 23:00 - 5:00
aden/rune/giran auctions end: 3:00

Make it fair for Europeans!
You will set time zone on Bartz GMT-4 and here you have.
Check when community is rising up. GMT-4? Really? I donąt think so.



Make it fair for Europeans!

Fair for euros? You got plenty of servers to choose, peopple already voted and poll is closed. It's fair for everybody since votes are legit.
If you are not happy, doors are open (y)
We started to play on Bartz cause there was a chance for EU time zone.
Now you change other server time zones and Bartz which supposed to be good for us, remains very bad.. :) (Europe is like 75% GMT+1, so GMT-4 means sieges during the night)

I have a question. Will be possible to transfer character: Bartz -> Megmeld or Shilen, after you finally set time zones for each server ?

(sorry for my english)

Are you kids really that dumb?

THESE ARE NA SERVERS, MEANT FOR NA PLAYERS. Bartz supposed to be good for euros? ROFL

These servers will and always be, North American timezone.
You guys create all these threads QQing all efin day about how NCWest should open a euro server. Well guess what, they cant.....

Innova owns the euro L2 rights, so youre barking up the wrong tree.
Youre so lucky NCWest doesnt block your euro IP, so just be thankful youre allowed to play and stop crying all over the forums.
Are you kids really that dumb?

THESE ARE NA SERVERS, MEANT FOR NA PLAYERS. Bartz supposed to be good for euros? ROFL

These servers will and always be, North American timezone.
You guys create all these threads QQing all efin day about how NCWest should open a euro server. Well guess what, they cant.....

Innova owns the euro L2 rights, so youre barking up the wrong tree.
Youre so lucky NCWest doesnt block your euro IP, so just be thankful youre allowed to play and stop crying all over the forums.


Blocking Euro IP? Thats the biggest **** ever heard.. One big % of active players in Official is from Europe.. You think they could have profits if they ever blocked Europeans? Gimme a break..
Innova is just a lame company breaking NC trademark, nothing more nothing less... Thats why most Europeans play in NCWest and not Innova.. There is a reason behind this, not only a rumor behing this.. We are not fools to join one company that we already know that is in US timezone, just Innova s@cks in many ways..
Blocking Euro IP? Thats the biggest **** ever heard.. One big % of active players in Official is from Europe.. You think they could have profits if they ever blocked Europeans? Gimme a break..
Innova is just a lame company breaking NC trademark, nothing more nothing less... Thats why most Europeans play in NCWest and not Innova.. There is a reason behind this, not only a rumor behing this.. We are not fools to join one company that we already know that is in US timezone, just Innova s@cks in many ways..

So....just because Euros cant keep up a proper server, you have to come here, spam our NA servers and try to change them to EU timezones, when their not even located anywhere near you?

Cool story bro.

You euros cry more than us NA, when these US servers werent even meant for you.....hilarious. Have fun on Naia.
So....just because Euros cant keep up a proper server, you have to come here, spam our NA servers and try to change them to EU timezones, when their not even located anywhere near you?

Cool story bro.

You euros cry more than us NA, when these US servers werent even meant for you.....hilarious. Have fun on Naia.

Sir, you are clueless.
Your are the one that is crying all the time cos the vote doesn't look good for you. Maybe get some ppl up voting for your desired time :rolleyes:
So....just because Euros cant keep up a proper server, you have to come here, spam our NA servers and try to change them to EU timezones, when their not even located anywhere near you?

Cool story bro.

You euros cry more than us NA, when these US servers werent even meant for you.....hilarious. Have fun on Naia.

economy counts most - we cry we pay.... look at online times...
I have a question , i'm a litle confuse : i first created a char on naia server when l2 become f2p , bartz wasn't open back then , didn't play for a while and in january when i've started playing again in the list of servers i see Bartz and beside it in red letters apear " RECOMENDED" , so i started playing on Bartz ; now , if bartz is a NA server, why the heck nc soft recomended me Bartz server ( me been euro of course ) , i don't get it ??? :confused:
why the heck nc soft recomended me Bartz server ( me been euro of course ) , i don't get it ??? :confused:
Cos the other servers are on the limit or near.
Bartz has lower population, so they recommend new players to start there.
Big "vote" scam, thats what it is.

Hey all!
I bet NCsoft is just tricking us all. Note that when you "vote" you move with siege window times - colored in a way so you probably missed that part as did I when "voted" for Bartz. So you are happy EU player and click onto 19 o'clock then notice you will put these white selection on something like 18-20 + 21-23 -> that perfectly makes server set to NA times. Fail! Feel scummed? I do.

To get Euro times for server you need to put selection on 14-16 + 18-20 times when you vote. Means you actuly need to click onto 15 on graph when picked GMT+1 time zone in box.

Happy "voting".
Poll results are not clear same like voting procedure. It's is why only 57 people voted for GMT+1 when Bartz majority is without any doubt Europeans.
Also there should be announcement on server spaming all the time about poll, because a lot of players simple don't read forum.
A lot of crap has been made, and NCwest need to clean it up.
this topic should be locked as the Vote has been over for awhile and the new times are set.

everyone else posting here is just trolling..
this topic should be locked as the Vote has been over for awhile and the new times are set.

everyone else posting here is just trolling..

Depends... all looks diffrent from a diffrent point of view

@PlixPlox indeed its most messed up poll i ever saw all is/was unclear