BARTZ forbidden for newcomers?

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Any new player that comes to BARTZ is stuck at Exploration Zone 1 because 2 players PK everybody that teleports there. They even charge you 1 million to let you pass, may i say lol?

So any mighty morphin power ranger is whilling to go there and kill them or should every new player forget of Playing at BARTZ?

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Thanks in advance! :D
**** I love this game!!! :D :D :D
i would suggest to place few guards 99lv in all exploration zones and problem will be solved
**** I love this game!!! :D :D :D
LOL me too *goes back to magmeld* xD

i would suggest to place few guards 99lv in all exploration zones and problem will be solved
I'm afraid is not gonna happen as this is working as intended.
Well, NC ****** up the PK system, but this work as intended, as they said. So nothing is gonna be done about that, or they are really really hypocrite... Just ask for higher lvl than them to come and kill them ^^
Ok, are they killing you guys as you spawn, like before you can even see or move killing you, because if so I think such killing is against the rules and they can be banned for it. Of crouse if you can move and run first then it is prefectly fine.

But even so thank you for showing us all the 2 biggest noobs on the server, those 2 cowardly noobs suck at the game so bad they have to kill newbies to pretend they are good at pvp, and they fail so hard they think newbies have 1 mil. I see 2 people that should just uninstall right now because no clan is going to recruit anyone that fails that hard at the game.

To the 2 red names in the screen shot, congrats on being low life, bottom fedding noobs.
I think such killing is against the rules and they can be banned for it.

I would love to see the rule that forbids this. Really!
Newbie Buffer, ask for Buff of Protection or something like that. It gives you a buff that protects you from Chaotic (Red) players for two hours.
Try posting on the Bartz forums, maybe?
Newbie Buffer, ask for Buff of Protection or something like that. It gives you a buff that protects you from Chaotic (Red) players for two hours.

Plas won
Eventhough i agree blackscreen kills shouldn't be possible...
You're not stuck at only going to one place, u can just go about anywhere and lvl there instead.

Newbie Buffer, ask for Buff of Protection or something like that. It gives you a buff that protects you from Chaotic (Red) players for two hours.

That would work too, since those guys are D grade, they're atleast 10 lvls higher (for the buff to work).
I would love to see the rule that forbids this. Really!
Read the whole dang post before you quote it our you just look like a noob. I do not know if it is the case with lineage 2 but most games have rules against SPAWN KILLING, and if YOU HAD READ THE POST BEFORE QUOTING YOU WOULD HAVE SEEN IT SAYS SPAWN KILLING. And because you proved yourself to be somewhat of a noob by failing to read I will assume you have no idea what spawn killing is, although you would have IF YOU READ THE POST. Spawn killing is when a player is killed before they can do anything, as in can not even see or click to move yet and gets killed. In most games this is bannable. If it was not spawn killing then no, there are no rules against except public opinion.
We dont give a s*** about another MMOs rules.

Welcom to Lineage II - deal with it or leave.
We dont give a s*** about another MMOs rules.

Welcom to Lineage II - deal with it or leave.

It amazes me that even here people don't fully read the posts they respond to let alone the thread.

First, I have been dealing with it, I attack noobs like this and go for the kill whenever I see them, it is my favorite part of the game. Incase you didn't notice I didn't make this thread.

Second, did I ever say that because other games has rules against that Lineage 2 does as well? No, I simply stated the fact that most game have rules against spawn killing and that I did not know what Lineage 2 rules were on this. I did say that if, note the if, Lineage 2 had simlar rules it would be bannable.

And finally like I said in the post you most likely did not read, even if Lineage 2 does not have rules regarding spawn killing you still have public opinion to deal with.

Hi, nice to meet you, I am the guy that won't back down from a fight and loves Lineage 2, deal with it and watch who you waste your forum infractions on.
Still QQing? Srsly...why this kind of playng wasnt an issue BEFORE priv players came here?
They would be Russian or BR they the only ppl getting mass banned for exploiting L2 servers everywhere.
Always a Russian Or BR.
Russians and BR have a reputation for exploiting servers and scamming etc etc they r like a pack of dogs.
Always Botting , Always scamming, Always getting banned for doing it. GF
Guys . The no kill carebears on spawning rule is only on private servers :D
Still QQing? Srsly...why this kind of playng wasnt an issue BEFORE priv players came here?

Your still QQing, what because I am F2P I came from a private server?

I have never played on a private server for any game in my life. I have always played the actual game. So stop assuming you know everything noob. You know what they say about when you assume.

As for why this was not a problem before, first once again you did not have F2Ps, but then its not only a F2P complaining by making this thread about being killed but F2Ps doing the killing. So once again, stop being an assuming noob, not everyone is carebare. And did you ever think that if this happened when it was P2P the player were most likely doing a free trail and instead of complaining like the OP did they just went "I'm not paying for this" and left.

And for the love of god please read the full post before responding.
"God hate as all" so Im not going to read your post...its just pointless.

L2 went F2P and IQ of community dropped to near 0.
"God hate as all" so Im not going to read your post...its just pointless.

L2 went F2P and IQ of community dropped to near 0.

man you sir have some major issues, part of that bad community u just mentioned is YOU! u start raging at ppl unprovoked. I don't see why u had to respond to his thread when all u contribute is a 12 year old tantrum rage comment >>"

-on topic though those reds are easilly counterable by having the newbie protection buff u get from newbie helper. Im suprised new ppl dont get it, its very helpful, they wont be able to kill you....unless their on your lvl range. It only works when they're 10 lvls or more above ur lvl.
1) Go to Rune/Dion/Aden/Goddard/Schuttgart/a higher lvl town.
2) Shout: Someone wants to help lineage II newbles with killing some pkers there.
3) If none wants, change town and try again.
"Talking Island Village is really beautiful"
"God hate as all" so Im not going to read your post...its just pointless.

L2 went F2P and IQ of community dropped to near 0.

Yes, it did. Bots have no IQ, so yes, the total IQ of the game is near 0 due to the bots.

And just a hint for you, you don't have to play on Bratz. If you are as good as you think you are and can't stand the new players as you have shown then why do you play on the server that you know is filled with new people? Incase you forgot F2P is good for the game, it will add years to its life, years that the game did not have left in it. Will you ever see the old glory days of the game, proably not, but you will come pretty dang to seeing it eventually. 5 servers, all full, still new players coming in because yes, some people still don't know this is free yet, which means it won't be long until we see 6 and maybe 7 for servers.

Look, I have nothing against you, I just like verbal sparring, also know as forum pvp. Something I picked up in Tribal wars and Pirates of the Burning Sea. Take a look at those forums sometime and you will see what I mean.
Unfortunately, there is no way to make stupid people stop being stupid. As in real life, l2 have a bunch of morons that do things like this.

PK is part of the game, as is the punishmet to kill xxx mobs for clean karma.

What you can do is what they told before, get that protection buff, or ask someone to help you.
Every server has a flood of new players, main problem is bots not new players.
Look, I have nothing against you, I just like verbal sparring, also know as forum pvp. Something I picked up in Tribal wars and Pirates of the Burning Sea. Take a look at those forums sometime and you will see what I mean.


Well , it's good that you like it , and it would be even better if you were any good at it.

Wonder why you don't get a response? Because you're not worth the time.The only thing you're doing right now is making yourself look like an idiot trying hard(failing tho) to sound smart. Constantly repeating your statements , as if they will become more valid this way , not getting the point of the other person , and even if you do , u twist it the way you like it ...

Smartbutts like you should best stay silent.For real.
I laugh at those who have nothing better to do with their time then come to the forums and cry that they are getting picked on, and insinuate that NcSoft should be banning people for making their game play less enjoyable.
Well , it's good that you like it , and it would be even better if you were any good at it.

Wonder why you don't get a response? Because you're not worth the time.The only thing you're doing right now is making yourself look like an idiot trying hard(failing tho) to sound smart. Constantly repeating your statements , as if they will become more valid this way , not getting the point of the other person , and even if you do , u twist it the way you like it ...

Smartbutts like you should best stay silent.For real.

Nice job, you only 2 days late on that one. This would be more fun if you were any good at verbal sparring, but no, you just like to make nasty remarks at what someone posted 2 days ago hoping they don't come back. Nice try though. And read the thread next time, there was no response because this thread died, it ended, until you guys posted in it again.

No please stop posting until you can remeber how to spell out whole words instead of typing like you text 24/7.
Nice job, you only 2 days late on that one. This would be more fun if you were any good at verbal sparring, but no, you just like to make nasty remarks at what someone posted 2 days ago hoping they don't come back. Nice try though. And read the thread next time, there was no response because this thread died, it ended, until you guys posted in it again.

No please stop posting until you can remeber how to spell out whole words instead of typing like you text 24/7.


Well yeah , it was a bit late coz , you know , I kinda have a life and things to do. So you can't think of a decent comeback , so you take points off my post? Very Nice! And once again , you repeat our points , making them MORE valid!! For the record , I hoped you'd come back :) It'd be no fun otherwise <3 . And do tell , what thread says that this is dead , because I seem to miss it , and it hurts my feelings when you say I don't read properly ;) .

NOW (not "No") please stop posting until you can REMEMBER (not "remeber") how to spell out whole words! HF!
Well yeah , it was a bit late coz , you know , I kinda have a life and things to do. So you can't think of a decent comeback , so you take points off my post? Very Nice! And once again , you repeat our points , making them MORE valid!! For the record , I hoped you'd come back :) It'd be no fun otherwise <3 . And do tell , what thread says that this is dead , because I seem to miss it , and it hurts my feelings when you say I don't read properly ;) .

NOW (not "No") please stop posting until you can REMEMBER (not "remeber") how to spell out whole words! HF!

I see even with sleep you still can't figure out how commas work, there is no space before the comma. I like the use of caps too, it makes you look like an angry kid. And as for a lack of a decent comeback, there was nothing that needed a comeback, the only thing worng with your post is you insulted me without proper punctuation. Guess my last post was short enough for you, you read it before posting this time, now if you would just read the thread you would see that this has been a foolish waste of your time.
I see even with sleep you still can't figure out how commas work, there is no space before the comma. I like the use of caps too, it makes you look like an angry kid. And as for a lack of a decent comeback, there was nothing that needed a comeback, the only thing worng with your post is you insulted me without proper punctuation. Guess my last post was short enough for you, you read it before posting this time, now if you would just read the thread you would see that this has been a foolish waste of your time.

Hmmmm...so , one needs to sleep in order to figure out how commas work? And it's a habit of mine to put space before commas , nothing more.
As for the use of caps , I do it to stress out something , not to make myself look angry or anything , much less over troll food ,you know , like you.

The only thing wrong ( not worng ! ) is me insulting ( not with "ed" , or you can make it "that you insulted" ...tc tc tc grammar! ) you? How so ? Truth hurts , but it still is truth :)
Oh , I do have punctuation :) you just don't get it! I do have punctuation!! I do have punctuation!! (see? my point is more valid now!)

And no , this is not a waste of time! Fooling around with high and mighty individuals such as yourself is amusing :D
Hmmmm...so , one needs to sleep in order to figure out how commas work? And it's a habit of mine to put space before commas , nothing more.
As for the use of caps , I do it to stress out something , not to make myself look angry or anything , much less over troll food ,you know , like you.

The only thing wrong ( not worng ! ) is me insulting ( not with "ed" , or you can make it "that you insulted" ...tc tc tc grammar! ) you? How so ? Truth hurts , but it still is truth :)
Oh , I do have punctuation :) you just don't get it! I do have punctuation!! I do have punctuation!! (see? my point is more valid now!)

And no , this is not a waste of time! Fooling around with high and mighty individuals such as yourself is amusing :D

Did you forget what you put in your post already, you blamed your errors on lack of sleep. And I have not once repeated a point in the same post, I repeat the same thing because you fail to read it every single time.

And how do you get high and mighty, please show me what you think is high and mighty. Glad your having fun but does your mom know you are using her computer? Its just that you nerd rage like a 12 year old.
Incredible...this lol topic with epic qqs still lives?
Did you forget what you put in your post already, you blamed your errors on lack of sleep. And I have not once repeated a point in the same post, I repeat the same thing because you fail to read it every single time.

And how do you get high and mighty, please show me what you think is high and mighty. Glad your having fun but does your mom know you are using her computer? Its just that you nerd rage like a 12 year old.

Sigh....and here I thought that I had a decent person to troll-fight with....

Turns out you're just a teenager with big mouth and small brains....no , for real , I'm really disappointed.


So 1st , do you mind quoting the post of mine in which I blamed my mistakes on the lack of sleep? Because I can't seem to find it.

On the repeating thing , see kiddo , you make a point. Then that "thing"(your point) is being repeated by you.And what you said essentially means you agree you repeat yourself.

Dear , instead of constantly going on how I don't read your posts , I do. Yet do you reread yours? Do it and check how much you overuse something.......

High and mighty is when someone thinks he's a hotshot , but in reality he is a total clown.
Just like what you're doing right now.

On the mom part....I won't go there. Then it really will look like a circus...

And last thing , learn to make a difference between raging(what u think I'm doing) and satirizing(what I'm doing - mocking you).


Nowadays when something of the sort happens , all the folks go either "QQ" or "rage m0ar".
B itch please , learn what those words really mean , and then! use them properly.

Until next time.Oh and , if u do another half-***** response like the last one , I might teach you how to debate properly.
Well yeah , it was a bit late coz , you know , I kinda have a life and things to do. So you can't think of a decent comeback , so you take points off my post? Very Nice! And once again , you repeat our points , making them MORE valid!! For the record , I hoped you'd come back :) It'd be no fun otherwise <3 . And do tell , what thread says that this is dead , because I seem to miss it , and it hurts my feelings when you say I don't read properly ;) .

NOW (not "No") please stop posting until you can REMEMBER (not "remeber") how to spell out whole words! HF!
Quoted as requested, read the first sentence.

Hmmmm...so , one needs to sleep in order to figure out how commas work? And it's a habit of mine to put space before commas , nothing more.
As for the use of caps , I do it to stress out something , not to make myself look angry or anything , much less over troll food ,you know , like you.

The only thing wrong ( not worng ! ) is me insulting ( not with "ed" , or you can make it "that you insulted" ...tc tc tc grammar! ) you? How so ? Truth hurts , but it still is truth :)
Oh , I do have punctuation :) you just don't get it! I do have punctuation!! I do have punctuation!! (see? my point is more valid now!)

And no , this is not a waste of time! Fooling around with high and mighty individuals such as yourself is amusing
I too thought I had a decent person to verbal spare with, but then you posted this, which lead me to posting exactly what I thought of your post in what your quote below is responding too. Seems we both are disappointed with each others moves, thats shame, I thought you could take what you dish out. And sorry, had to take your big grin out of this qoute, only can 4 and that one made 5.
Sigh....and here I thought that I had a decent person to troll-fight with....

Turns out you're just a teenager with big mouth and small brains....no , for real , I'm really disappointed.


So 1st , do you mind quoting the post of mine in which I blamed my mistakes on the lack of sleep? Because I can't seem to find it.

On the repeating thing , see kiddo , you make a point. Then that "thing"(your point) is being repeated by you.And what you said essentially means you agree you repeat yourself.

Dear , instead of constantly going on how I don't read your posts , I do. Yet do you reread yours? Do it and check how much you overuse something.......

High and mighty is when someone thinks he's a hotshot , but in reality he is a total clown.
Just like what you're doing right now.

On the mom part....I won't go there. Then it really will look like a circus...

And last thing , learn to make a difference between raging(what u think I'm doing) and satirizing(what I'm doing - mocking you).


Nowadays when something of the sort happens , all the folks go either "QQ" or "rage m0ar".
B itch please , learn what those words really mean , and then! use them properly.

Until next time.Oh and , if u do another half-***** response like the last one , I might teach you how to debate properly.
I see that you also like to waste forum infractions on me, and yes, I did say the same thing to michas. And you can see from what I quoted above that you don't even reread your own posts, so why ask me to do the sme when you can do as I have done and point it out. By the way I hate idiots that use QQ and rage moar, it way over used and the people using normally have an IQ lower than that of the bots that flood the servers. As far as hot headed goes, maybe head strong, but not hot headed. Hot headed would be when you see words in all caps fallowed by an ! or maybe 2 or 3 of them. Like I also told michas, I don't back down from pvp, whether it be ingame or on the forum. Even though this is not a (what you said in your last line) response, please, fire back, I enjoy this.

Incredible...this lol topic with epic qqs still lives?
Yes, some first time poster dug this up and and Ymir found it, now it won't die. Unless of crouse this gets way out of hand, which I have a feeling it will and then a gm might just close it.
Well...I still don't see where I wrote the "sleeping" part. What I wrote was that I had business to take care of , simple as that.

Since you succeeded in making a half-butted response , then here goes a little help in how to debate.


1st: You need to make sure all your points are valid , so that they won't be used against you , or even twisted , making it needed to be quite careful how you formulate your statements.

2nd: To truly beat someone in a debate , direct insults or name callings like "kid" and such are a no-no. One needs to break down the points of his opponent and tear them apart ; that would be easy if the 1st point is not being taken for real by him.

3rd: There is another way to win a debate , and that is to completely defeat your opponent's thesis , since that is the very reason of the debate.This is easy to figure out , because it happens when the debate derails to another direction all of a sudden.It means your opponent is unable to counter your points and is somehow trying to evade doing so.

I hope this helps.Maybe you will even read what you quote , and understand it after rereading.It's nothing bad , really , you just need to improve your comprehension skills.
man you sir have some major issues, part of that bad community u just mentioned is YOU! u start raging at ppl unprovoked. I don't see why u had to respond to his thread when all u contribute is a 12 year old tantrum rage comment >>"

-on topic though those reds are easilly counterable by having the newbie protection buff u get from newbie helper. Im suprised new ppl dont get it, its very helpful, they wont be able to kill you....unless their on your lvl range. It only works when they're 10 lvls or more above ur lvl.

What he said :)