skill hit sofftly with duals i want use dual swords but to b practic i should go for 2h weapons
skills work beter with pole i use it for party pve, and for solo i have a 2h sword sme is good for pvp , so i rec u get both weapons 2h sword forcus, and a pole with power up (o critical stun if u have chanse :( )
skill hit sofftly with duals i want use dual swords but to b practic i should go for 2h weapons
skills work beter with pole i use it for party pve, and for solo i have a 2h sword sme is good for pvp , so i rec u get both weapons 2h sword forcus, and a pole with power up (o critical stun if u have chanse :( )
What do you mean that with duals skills are less effective then 2 hand sword? Its bassed on P.atk + skill power. Aslo why you think aoe skill power with pole is bigger then with other weapon? cause pole have less p.atk.
If you read the skills, almost everyone says "most effective when wielding a pole".
That would be why the pole is better for the skills.
"almost everyone" = 2 skills?
The only two that are powered up by spears are hurricane storm and eruption, it's not even close to being most. The best warrior weapon is dual swords with health sa. +4 dual blunt bonus is 100~ skill p.atk, it's a joke. The other +4 bonuses and available sa's are pve based. If you want a pvp weapon then you're getting dual swords with health sa or you're being scrub. Your call.
Warrior's don't have burst damage, putting a polearm on isn't going to make 2 shot people with eruption.
Ok pvp weapon problem solved.
About pve, and not talking about aoe, the answer is obvious, but about single target, e.g. a boss which is the best weapon choice for most dps?
Ok i did a quick search about getting a weapon worth enchanting etc.
Apoc Slasher price atm its 100-120m
Apoc fight price atm its 55-65m
SA its the same on both either focus or dmg up.
With Slasher u get more crit and higher burst.
With Fighter (fists) u get way more Atk speed but something like 80 less Crit rate.
So what should i pick according to value for money?
It's your choice really. From what I've seen Tyrr's are the only class that can even use their skills with either Fist or Two-Handed weapons, so go with what feels right for you.
Personally I'm using the dual blunts with dmg up, but that's just what was available at the time so I went with it.
If those are your options, because I leveled Destroyer/Titan I'd go with the Slasher. Regardless of which one you get don't put haste on it, I've already managed to cap attack speed in parties with a two hander without using savage (as an orc) and I sit around 1300 with Ogre on for Raid bosses and full iss buffs.
OEing the Slasher adds 100patk to the item i believe I've never personally seen an OE'd Slasher (req or apo) so I'm only goin by what I read. Patk = skill dmg and if you have Focus on it then that also means much higher crit dmg as well
Oh god why would you put focus on a class that uses skills instead of auto attacks? How can this game be so old yet people still don't know that skill crits are not affected by your p.crit rate?
Also highest p.atk = most damage, why do you care about charges when you can spam 10 momentum stone in 0.1 sec? Go with 2h sword damage up.
Oh god why would you put focus on a class that uses skills instead of auto attacks? How can this game be so old yet people still don't know that skill crits are not affected by your p.crit rate?
Also highest p.atk = most damage, why do you care about charges when you can spam 10 momentum stone in 0.1 sec? Go with 2h sword damage up.
Crit = Lightning Strikes = Stacked to 3 + 15% patk. At 4k Patk = additional 600 patk.
Oh god why would you put focus on a class that uses skills instead of auto attacks? How can this game be so old yet people still don't know that skill crits are not affected by your p.crit rate?
+1 this
it`s funny how 95% of people ignore Health SA ,i suppose they all care about PVE :p
it`s funny how 95% of people ignore Health SA ,i suppose they all care about PVE :p
It's not that they're ignoring it, it's that it's easy to grab a weapon toss health on it and have it on your hot bar to switch to for pvp, so at this point it's no longer an issue, now it's down to which weapon is going to be greatest for leveling purposes.
It's not that they're ignoring it, it's that it's easy to grab a weapon toss health on it and have it on your hot bar to switch to for pvp, so at this point it's no longer an issue, now it's down to which weapon is going to be greatest for leveling purposes.
think u are right, may b warror shoul focus in his power and let critical rate to dagers
atm i have damage up in the pole but need check the amunt of +p atak in dual blunts , 2h swords, dual swords,
i m playing dark elf tyrr warrior and i ve checked 2h dual and pole and i suggest for exp duals if u are hunting mobs 1 by 1 but if u train mobs go for pole with dmg up to spam aoe skill with huge dmg. and maybe crit rate is not that imortant but its usefull even for tyrr..
with lighting force u get good p atk increase at lvl 3 so i would tell u to go for duals +4 that got this good crit rate sa.
btw fist suck hard at tyrr dont bother try them...
for pvp its up to u.. ur set up ur armor light or hv... use compinations.
and i can tell u that i am glad that i ve made tyrr even though most ppl dont like this class...
i was able to beat archers/dagges at pvp and with mages its 50/50 (yeah d elf awakan racial skills are too good especialy the no target and +30 spd 1)
For single killing i still use +7 vesper ones.
But i think about getting Apo Duals cos of single pvp.
(as for the pole skills, weapon switch is the way. Same as using blunt to stun back the days)
In my experience even in solo it's better to use the pole. Armor Destruction + AoE skills = more dmg then Mega Strike and even Power Bomber.
Both AOE skills have 11k + Power. Mega Strike has 15k and Power Bomer has 20k. What I've found is with a Pole you end up doing practically double dmg with your AoE skills, even though it only says 50% it seems to be more.
With ISS Buffs I've been able to Crit the Swampland mobs for 21000ish. The highest Crit I'd ever landed with single target dual blunt was 17 or 18k. 21k 1 will one shot most of the lower level mobs in the swamp. (arbitours boxes cereberos etc)
Plus my non skill dmg seems to be higher for some reason, I was recently hearing that pole dmg on a Tyrr is bugged, or the rest of the weapons are bugged or something. Supposedly the Harmony patch notes state that Tyrr's will be getting a 40% dmg boost from dual weapons or something, but that patch is still a little bit away yet.
Considering that your main farm places will be SOA and Harnak for a while, I'd say go with pole. I have a tyrr 87 and I was lucky to get an apo pole from SOA quest not much after awakening. I use it a lot, either at harnak/soa or doing trains at altar.
Plus my non skill dmg seems to be higher for some reason, I was recently hearing that pole dmg on a Tyrr is bugged, or the rest of the weapons are bugged or something. Supposedly the Harmony patch notes state that Tyrr's will be getting a 40% dmg boost from dual weapons or something, but that patch is still a little bit away yet.
Are you sure? I think that pole gives 10k hit (for example) while duals give 2 hits of 5k. That's working as it should, imo.