Has anyone tested these two different weapons on a Yul Archer? I'm really interested to get some info on how much the playstyle changes when equiping a crossbow. I've played tricksters before, i know the feeling of the crossbow but I guess it's kinda different on Yul Archers.
First of all, I'm sure the range on skills is still max.
I know crossbow has great attack speed so that means faster reuse of skills but that also means more mp to use since you spam skills faster.
Much lower p atk , dunno how that would affect pvp, meaning that you have to use skills more times than with a bow.
So in general i wanna get some info on this, if someone has tested it please leave a reply.
i was under the impression that attack speed, and cast speed didn't influence reuse anymore.
crossbows do atack faster, which is good for some things.
but the damage output is much lower so most prefer to use the Bow on an archer class.
as for others, maybe enchanter, or warrior who wants to use a bow for range might consider a crossbow.
With a lot of +str , the +300 atk speed I get from the crossbow , can be used to instant-spam a lot of aoe ( like 6-7 times ) of my 2 aoe skills , which is great , with the immediate casting speed of the aoe itself.
Dps pre-95 is best with crossbow , since the patk difference is just 1-2k less.
With quick fire lv2 , things are different though , I ll use bow myself after 95.
i was under the impression that attack speed, and cast speed didn't influence reuse anymore.
crossbows do atack faster, which is good for some things.
but the damage output is much lower so most prefer to use the Bow on an archer class.
as for others, maybe enchanter, or warrior who wants to use a bow for range might consider a crossbow.
Well, im sure attack speed influences reuse on skills but the minus p atk makes up for in speed. That's why i wanna test >.<
With a lot of +str , the +300 atk speed I get from the crossbow , can be used to instant-spam a lot of aoe ( like 6-7 times ) of my 2 aoe skills , which is great , with the immediate casting speed of the aoe itself.
Dps pre-95 is best with crossbow , since the patk difference is just 1-2k less.
With quick fire lv2 , things are different though , I ll use bow myself after 95.
Quick fire lv2 is indeed great but its only 20 seconds or 40 in some ocassions where skill time doubles, Right now what are you using? I havent tried crossbow yet, might as well get one just for the fun of it.
Well, im sure attack speed influences reuse on skills but the minus p atk makes up for in speed. That's why i wanna test >.<
Since CT2 skill reuse is fixed, not influenced by atk speed/cast speed.
Since CT2 skill reuse is fixed, not influenced by atk speed/cast speed.
Not true, if you switch between siege and rapid fire stances you can see that atk speed does affect reuse time.
perfect party u will be 500 crit rate and 1500 attack speed so the atack speed isnt an issue.
imo the bow is better due to it getting crit and range, the cross bow gets haste and crit. the haste isnt needed at end game, and in oly it would be negligable imo.
Not true, if you switch between siege and rapid fire stances you can see that atk speed does affect reuse time.
If you took the time to read the skill descriptions while switching stances, you'd see that they specifically affect skill reuse as part of their effect. 10% recovery time increase for siege, 20% recovery time decrease for rapid.
They affect attack speed separately from skill reuse, and by differing amounts
I got myself a crossbow and tested it, the dmg difference is not that big but i havent added SA yet on it so i will do then check the feel of it with haste. Crit rate and p atk is greatly reduced but with bow dmg up and plain crossbow i did almost same dmg on npc with pintpoint. Maybe sounds stupid but that's how it is.
I'm almost certain that attack speed does influence reuse. And I've been in many parties, I never had full atk speed on my own and after 95 i will use bow but i dunno, maybe crossbow too.
you cant be sure attack speed affects reuse when it doesn't, and the game is very clear about that. This is why sniper stance doesn't change reuse even though it does lower attack speed.
The other toggles change attack speed because they clearly state that they do so, and the changes to reuse and attack speed arent even the same % value in the case of siege stance for example.
you cant be sure attack speed affects reuse when it doesn't, and the game is very clear about that. This is why sniper stance doesn't change reuse even though it does lower attack speed.
The other toggles change attack speed because they clearly state that they do so, and the changes to reuse and attack speed arent even the same % value in the case of siege stance for example.
Alright you guys are right, I just made myself a crossbow with haste SA and it doesn't improve reuse on skills. It does seem to be a lot weaker and on siege stance i have nice attack speed but low critical rate, about 306. Also, on rapid fire stance my patk is 4k only and I don't think i can ever kill anyone like that. Maybe if i do only crits. Overall, I think crossbow and siege stance are great together, descent attack speed and dmg. The difference is noticable but not too low. Yet, Im not sure which playstyle i will choose to keep, maybe both but attribute goes on bow for sure.