Thought mentors where suppose to help new players right?

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Okay so, The mentor system was built to help new players correct? How come it costs 35-100kk for a slot!? The only way possible for one to gain that amount of money is to be a loser and buy from bots (Which ruins the game I might add + being a bannable effence + getting ripped off!) or already have a high level character on the server. Someone tell me how that helps newbies because I would really love to know. Mentors act like they don't get anything for their mentor services. Truthfully, they do! Really all they have to do is sit in town to get their bonuses (Mentee Coins to purchase various items from the mentee adviser NPC in all major towns.) or actually go out and fight on a subclass to gain 10% exp it's a really nice system for those who need it but very ineffective because of greed. It is really painful to shout for a mentor and every message that pops up in PM is "How Much?!" or "OFFER!?". If there is one decent soul who is willing to mentor PM me on Miwakunoaisu or send me some mail. (Gaining mentor isn't the valid point of this post but hopefully something decent will derive from it.)

Just in-case you need to read-up again on what its for here is the link...

http://www.lineage2.com/en/game/the-library/mentoring-system/
I'm alone with no friends playing on this server.

Foreveralone.jpg :D

I did lvl 1 to 82 with no mentor. At the time I dinged to 82, I had around 200kk adena and like 100kk in items in my warehouse.

50kk is nothing for the totally overpowered bonus you get from your mentor.

Also, noone will mentor a level 42 dude who is just out of the quests and who can't pay.
I'm not 42 by the way I am 57 almost 58 went up quite a few levels in the 1 day I played in the 3 day period I have 2 days of college/study to do.
Noone is forcing anyone to pay for mentee spots are they?
Its like a service... you can it do for free for your friends, and sell for ppl you dont know.

=p
Okay so, The mentor system was built to help new players correct? How come it costs 35-100kk for a slot!? The only way possible for one to gain that amount of money is to be a loser and buy from bots (Which ruins the game I might add + being a bannable effence + getting ripped off!) or already have a high level character on the server. Someone tell me how that helps newbies because I would really love to know. Mentors act like they don't get anything for their mentor services. Truthfully, they do! Really all they have to do is sit in town to get their bonuses (Mentee Coins to purchase various items from the mentee adviser NPC in all major towns.) or actually go out and fight on a subclass to gain 10% exp it's a really nice system for those who need it but very ineffective because of greed. It is really painful to shout for a mentor and every message that pops up in PM is "How Much?!" or "OFFER!?". If there is one decent soul who is willing to mentor PM me on Miwakunoaisu or send me some mail. (Gaining mentor isn't the valid point of this post but hopefully something decent will derive from it.)

Just in-case you need to read-up again on what its for here is the link...

http://www.lineage2.com/en/game/the-library/mentoring-system/

Ok, let me try explain ur basic problems.

"Mentor system if for helping new plyaers"
SO ppl's are selling their help for adena.
You don;t have to buy it.

thanks for attention
Na really it just shows the mentality of people if its not 95% for them screw everyone else really. Bartz is suppose to be the pride of LineageII and quite honestly with what I've seen its not even close.
Exactly what I thought every comment that has been posted so far was half intelligent and totally did what I knew it was going too. Prove how greedy and dickish Bartz is. Good luck everyone scrounging up 50kk for this "Service" when your lvl 50! Some pride of LineageII.

You telling me you need a mentor at level 50?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztVMib1T4T4
You telling me you need a mentor at level 50?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztVMib1T4T4

Need isn't the exact words there mate how about would like to have or want to make the process faster so I can get this bladedancer to a Iss Enchanter as soon as possible.
Try looking for someone that doesnt charge you adena.

Or join a clan where ppl mentor eachothers toons.

Or just lvl the old fashioned way.
got mentors for 2 of my toons for free. theres people out there just got to see when they shout out for mentee's.
Some people charge, but then return the money when the person graduates. Cuz its annoying to add mentees, then they leave, and you get a penalty.

I use that adena as insurance that my mentees will lvl, Im in it for the mentee coins, not adena, but if the ******s leave and I get a penalty, then I get paid for it.
Need isn't the exact words there mate how about would like to have or want to make the process faster so I can get this bladedancer to a Iss Enchanter as soon as possible.

So the problem here is you are impatient and demand free help to get what you want now? Not sure where you read the Mentor system was created so players could help you.

Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRTkCHE1sS4)
Some people charge, but then return the money when the person graduates. Cuz its annoying to add mentees, then they leave, and you get a penalty.

I use that adena as insurance that my mentees will lvl, Im in it for the mentee coins, not adena, but if the ******s leave and I get a penalty, then I get paid for it.

I do the same thing :)
So the problem here is you are impatient and demand free help to get what you want now? Not sure where you read the Mentor system was created so players could help you.

Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRTkCHE1sS4)

It's not exactly just for me I'm trying to rush through my levels to get level 85 or 86 to get Iss Enchanter for my group so I can follow them around and buff them also to mentor them as-well.
I have a movie on my computer of you doing something else to. ;)
I do the same thing :)

I have a movie of you doing something else to. :)
Mentors act like they don't get anything for their mentor services. Truthfully, they do! Really all they have to do is sit in town to get their bonuses (Mentee Coins to purchase various items from the mentee adviser NPC in all major towns.)


You said you are in your 50s. The coins gained from you lvling a few times a day buys a mentor nothing. Absolutely nothing. A few of your levels and he might be able to afford an EA:R. People that shout to buy mentor in Aden are a drain on that mentor, that's why they charge so much. Instead of getting 86 and moving on asap like you should, you'll be in your 60s for a week and your 70s for another 2.
I have a movie of you doing something else to. :)

I have a video of you and two donkeys having passionate sex. The only disturbing part is the donkeys are male and you let them be on top. I mean, have some respect and fill (giggity) the pitcher role.


trololololol
I have a video of you and two donkeys having passionate sex. The only disturbing part is the donkeys are male and you let them be on top. I mean, have some respect and fill (giggity) the pitcher role.


trololololol

Feel free to post, and i will happily post your botting movie to. :) Oh and i rather not go into the disrespectful conversations you try to have all the time. But maybe next time think twice before making a post about what you are fantasizing on.
You said you are in your 50s. The coins gained from you lvling a few times a day buys a mentor nothing. Absolutely nothing. A few of your levels and he might be able to afford an EA:R. People that shout to buy mentor in Aden are a drain on that mentor, that's why they charge so much. Instead of getting 86 and moving on asap like you should, you'll be in your 60s for a week and your 70s for another 2.

Sorry to burst your bubble broseph but I happen to be lvl 64 withought it in the little time I have played this week with college work and all. Im moving right along given the time I can put into it. Thanks for your concern tho *cough*
Okay so, The mentor system was built to help new players correct? How come it costs 35-100kk for a... ...If there is one decent soul who is willing to mentor PM me on Miwakunoaisu or send me some mail. (Gaining mentor isn't the valid point of this post but hopefully something decent will derive...

Sorry to burst your bubble broseph but I happen to be lvl 64 withought it in the little time I have played this week with college work and all. Im moving right along given the time I can put into it. Thanks for your concern tho *cough*

So, what's the problem? You started this thread with "Gaining mentor isn't the valid point of this post" (oh, and calling it a "valid point" in this context is grammatically wrong. It should have been "Gaining mentor isn't the point of this post"), and every other post in the thread by you has been justification of why you want/need (don't play the semantics game, it's just lame) a mentor -- except the last one, where you said you don't need a mentor, at all.

Which is it, 'brah'? To me, you come across as whiny, contradictory, and slightly obtuse. Further, at this point, I'm not sure exactly what it is that you want.....
So, what's the problem? You started this thread with "Gaining mentor isn't the valid point of this post" (oh, and calling it a "valid point" in this context is grammatically wrong. It should have been "Gaining mentor isn't the point of this post"), and every other post in the thread by you has been justification of why you want/need (don't play the semantics game, it's just lame) a mentor -- except the last one, where you said you don't need a mentor, at all.

Which is it, 'brah'? To me, you come across as whiny, contradictory, and slightly obtuse. Further, at this point, I'm not sure exactly what it is that you want.....

To see someone actually give a rats *** about anyone but them-self would be a good start. There are a select few I have found that have helped someone else of their own free will, but that's close to none. Another point of posting is I don't really see how NCSoft can call Bartz "Pride of LineageII" when I really don't see pride in the server just greed. Some people have made valid points on the post and others just to troll. However, I'm moving straight along without mentor but a mentor slot wouldn't be frowned upon. I'm just not going to pay 50-75kk for a fracking slot. You can think I'm a winy brat if you want, which really won't get anyone anywhere. I know I'm not a whiny brat so have a good one. Just wondering where all the love has gone. :X
I can't believe that there are people that pay that amount. When it's supposed to be an advantage for both.
Unfortunatly its what the market goes for, I mean if people were not willing to pay that much the mentors would not be able to charge that much.

seems to be nothing but a drama factory too, every day i see someone shouting about getting ripped off or scammed by a mentor or mentee.

Other sad thing I see is it means people are forced to puchase Adena off 3rd party sites to pay for a mentor slot as no "normal" level 60 has 50-75 million on the bank.

Personaly im happy chugging along with no mentor, I am not a racer to get to 99 before anyone else as long as I am having fun playing L2 I will keep grinding away!
Some people charge, but then return the money when the person graduates. Cuz its annoying to add mentees, then they leave, and you get a penalty.

I use that adena as insurance that my mentees will lvl, Im in it for the mentee coins, not adena, but if the ******s leave and I get a penalty, then I get paid for it.

Thats smart. I am going to do that with randoms going forward with randoms.

It's not exactly just for me I'm trying to rush through my levels to get level 85 or 86 to get Iss Enchanter for my group so I can follow them around and buff them also to mentor them as-well.

If you have an awakened group ASK THEM TO MENTOR YOU.
First question. Where did you hear Bartz was the "pride of Lineage 2??? Maybe the original Bartz server. The Bartz server you are on is just the newest server "Read its only a few months old, there aren't piles of Mentors yet so unlike the other servers the amount of people looking for mentors is greater then the amount of mentor spots available.

Second, if you are partying with a group of friends, and they don't have mentors, you probably should just hold off on getting a mentor anyways, or you will outlevel them shortly and you won't be able to play with them anymore. What's the point in that?

Lastly, if you want a Mentor the Free way, the idea is to make a few higher level friends or join a clan with some awakened toons. You are upset that people you don't know aren't bending over backwards to help you when you aren't going out of the way to get to know them, and they probably either have friends lined up, or people lined up offering millions in adena.

Also the other problem mentioned, sure the bonuses are both ways, but only the Mentor has a 7 day penalty if your Mentee skips and leaves, or if they stop playing and you need to boot them. The adena payment is actually more self-caused by Mentees jumping their Mentor when they log in and their Mentor isn't logged in, so they move to someone that is on at the time, so they can keep their Mentor buffs.
Hello all. I'm totally new to L2, and man, I'm lost. All these acronyms are a bit daunting(lost again). What advice for a total n00b to L2 at lvl 44 Dwarf do you all suggest. Read forums? Um... 6k pages to look-up, not fun. Guides online, another 6k pages to get through. I dunno, I want to learn L2 and have fun but it appears that your a nobody until higher levels(50+), is that correct? I have so many questions and find searching through all the forums is taking my time away from game play, y/n?
I'll play a bit longer but it's a bit frustrating, maybe that's what OP was trying to say(?) I know I'm starting to get tired of looking up answers to game questions in forums and the "Official Guide" well.................?????
So far I get this, grind up to lvl 50/60 alone and hope maybe a clan will take you. In the meantime, I make many mistakes, piss away a lot of Adena on soulshots/spiritshots and 'hope' I'm making the right skill training/ armor/weapon decisions, (stupid way to learn).
Thanks for reading
Hello all. I'm totally new to L2, and man, I'm lost. All these acronyms are a bit daunting(lost again). What advice for a total n00b to L2 at lvl 44 Dwarf do you all suggest. Read forums? Um... 6k pages to look-up, not fun. Guides online, another 6k pages to get through. I dunno, I want to learn L2 and have fun but it appears that your a nobody until higher levels(50+), is that correct? I have so many questions and find searching through all the forums is taking my time away from game play, y/n?
I'll play a bit longer but it's a bit frustrating, maybe that's what OP was trying to say(?) I know I'm starting to get tired of looking up answers to game questions in forums and the "Official Guide" well.................?????
So far I get this, grind up to lvl 50/60 alone and hope maybe a clan will take you. In the meantime, I make many mistakes, piss away a lot of Adena on soulshots/spiritshots and 'hope' I'm making the right skill training/ armor/weapon decisions, (stupid way to learn).
Thanks for reading

I can understand where you're coming from, my IGN is TrollinTrav and my buffer is Traviz, hit me a mail or message in game and I'll be happy to answer any questions you might have.
This issue of mentors charging for their slots comes from mentees that would serial hop from one mentor to another, leaving them with 7 day penalties. Now people are a lot less likely to leave if they have to keep paying.
the mentor system was made to be advantage for both new players and vets.
but there are those who just like to take an advantage of the free system and turn it into profit.. *sounds familiar*

but there are mentors out there who play the game for fun factor and mentor for free as the way the system was meant to be used.
its just people, and everyones different, there are those who are greedy and looking for shortcuts by taking advantages
and then there are those who are less greedy, and just play it the way it was meant to be played

people will be people,
nothing wrong with what people do what they want to in a game life.
if you can't do it here, where else can you do it !

except for the ones who join every clan they can get into just for free advantages then hop onto the next bigger clan for more advantages to become strong
Shame on you !
People dont mentor for free because of the penalty,its simple as that,mentor slot prices are as low as 10kk right now in Bartz.There are free mentors or people friendly enough to do it if you talk with them a bit.
I can see where youre coming from, but to be honest getting a mentor isnt very difficult. Alot will mentor for 5-15kk, which you should already have the majority of at lvl 50some, and the rest you can get by making a dwarf and selling shots or making lvl 20s and getting the 2mil off of each one. Or make some friends and join a clan with high lvl char, all up to you. But whining about not getting a mentor on forums wont help
I am level 77 (almost 78) now and Have a mentor... (hes never on and I payed out the *** for it) but I do have one none-the-less. From the time I get to play its a good amount of progress I suppose. With the Harmony Update hopefully it will make a difference.
Okay so, The mentor system was built to help new players correct? How come it costs 35-100kk for a slot!? The only way possible for one to gain that amount of money is to be a loser and buy from bots (Which ruins the game I might add + being a bannable effence + getting ripped off!) or already have a high level character on the server. Someone tell me how that helps newbies because I would really love to know. Mentors act like they don't get anything for their mentor services. Truthfully, they do! Really all they have to do is sit in town to get their bonuses (Mentee Coins to purchase various items from the mentee adviser NPC in all major towns.) or actually go out and fight on a subclass to gain 10% exp it's a really nice system for those who need it but very ineffective because of greed. It is really painful to shout for a mentor and every message that pops up in PM is "How Much?!" or "OFFER!?". If there is one decent soul who is willing to mentor PM me on Miwakunoaisu or send me some mail. (Gaining mentor isn't the valid point of this post but hopefully something decent will derive from it.)

Just in-case you need to read-up again on what its for here is the link...

http://www.lineage2.com/en/game/the-library/mentoring-system/

It's does truly suck when this is exactly the case for many new players I'm glad I was able to find awesome people on this server that helped me out by paying for me for my slot. But in my nature I had to pay back I dont like getting handouts but they wouldn't take it.. Point of my story is that, there is some decent people in L2 just have to find out who they are, Im glad to find the group Im playing with if you want I could try to help as much as I can!
It's does truly suck when this is exactly the case for many new players I'm glad I was able to find awesome people on this server that helped me out by paying for me for my slot. But in my nature I had to pay back I dont like getting handouts but they wouldn't take it.. Point of my story is that, there is some decent people in L2 just have to find out who they are, Im glad to find the group Im playing with if you want I could try to help as much as I can!

Thanks for the offer ^^ I actually found someone who is going to mentor me. :) I had a mentor my friend helped me get... but he just stopped coming on after a week or two. So I left him with a 7 day penalty small price to pay for stealing all the money my friend helped me with... I will eventually pay him back if he lets me. Now she has a 7 day penalty for someone leaving right before she was about to add me... but 7 days will go quick.

P.S. I love your name. :3
Thanks for the offer ^^ I actually found someone who is going to mentor me. :) I had a mentor my friend helped me get... but he just stopped coming on after a week or two. So I left him with a 7 day penalty small price to pay for stealing all the money my friend helped me with... I will eventually pay him back if he lets me. Now she has a 7 day penalty for someone leaving right before she was about to add me... but 7 days will go quick.

P.S. I love your name. :3

If your having ANY trouble let me know I would gladly help, despite other people comments on here. I'm sorry to hear that you got dealt such horrible people on L2 But I'm GLAD to hear your able to bounce back from the outcome.
If your having ANY trouble let me know I would gladly help, despite other people comments on here. I'm sorry to hear that you got dealt such horrible people on L2 But I'm GLAD to hear your able to bounce back from the outcome.

Thanks & will do. :)
what is 1kk? is that a million adena? would 100kk be 100,000,000 adena?

I want a mentor but I'm don't play 12 hours a day. Would I be better off just paying for a mentor? I don't need somebody to level me. I just want the **** 200% bonus and I'm happy with that.
That because, if mentee leaves mentor, the mentor get 7 days penalty which doesn't allowe them to recruit any mentee for whole 1 week. That's why they ask for adena, as it ould be a protective move against to all ******s who may leave their mentors.
Okay so, The mentor system was built to help new players correct? How come it costs 35-100kk for a slot!? The only way possible for one to gain that amount of money is to be a loser and buy from bots (Which ruins the game I might add + being a bannable effence + getting ripped off!) or already have a high level character on the server. Someone tell me how that helps newbies because I would really love to know. Mentors act like they don't get anything for their mentor services. Truthfully, they do! Really all they have to do is sit in town to get their bonuses (Mentee Coins to purchase various items from the mentee adviser NPC in all major towns.) or actually go out and fight on a subclass to gain 10% exp it's a really nice system for those who need it but very ineffective because of greed. It is really painful to shout for a mentor and every message that pops up in PM is "How Much?!" or "OFFER!?". If there is one decent soul who is willing to mentor PM me on Miwakunoaisu or send me some mail. (Gaining mentor isn't the valid point of this post but hopefully something decent will derive from it.)

Just in-case you need to read-up again on what its for here is the link...

http://www.lineage2.com/en/game/the-library/mentoring-system/

I totally agree with you. It's a shame that the server is full of selfish as*holes.
Get to 70+ and you should be able to find a free mentor.
I can not believe what I'm reading. My mentor took me for free. Even sent me a +4 immortal cp shirt for graduation gift. Best mentor ever. Funny to read what ppl would do for adena. Sell mentor spots lol c'mon now how low can you be?
I can not believe what I'm reading. My mentor took me for free. Even sent me a +4 immortal cp shirt for graduation gift. Best mentor ever. Funny to read what ppl would do for adena. Sell mentor spots lol c'mon now how low can you be?

Irrelevant.

Check the dates of the posts. Its called supply and demand. Back when this post was relevant there were not as many mentee spots available, so people could charge for them. Now I see awakened players begging for mentees.
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haha, I like this reply!!
haha I was reading this and not paying attention to the dates, and was like why the hell hasent someone offered to be a mentor yet!!

but now i see it was just someone being a necro X.X
Okay so, The mentor system was built to help new players correct? How come it costs 35-100kk for a slot!? The only way possible for one to gain that amount of money is to be a loser and buy from bots (Which ruins the game I might add + being a bannable effence + getting ripped off!) or already have a high level character on the server. Someone tell me how that helps newbies because I would really love to know. Mentors act like they don't get anything for their mentor services. Truthfully, they do! Really all they have to do is sit in town to get their bonuses (Mentee Coins to purchase various items from the mentee adviser NPC in all major towns.) or actually go out and fight on a subclass to gain 10% exp it's a really nice system for those who need it but very ineffective because of greed. It is really painful to shout for a mentor and every message that pops up in PM is "How Much?!" or "OFFER!?". If there is one decent soul who is willing to mentor PM me on Miwakunoaisu or send me some mail. (Gaining mentor isn't the valid point of this post but hopefully something decent will derive from it.)

Just in-case you need to read-up again on what its for here is the link...

http://www.lineage2.com/en/game/the-library/mentoring-system/

I haven't read all the replies but you wanna know why people charge? Because a lot of mentees switch mentors faster than you can imagined. Mentors helped them by staying online for them and some even help to buff them with extra buffs but all mentors get is a small amount of mentee coins and before the mentee even awaken, they leave and change to another mentor if his current mentor happens to be offline or afk. So much for helping people?
i find it's best to try and focus on your own play time and find a mentor who is on around those times.
a lot of the players who sell slots might be 24/7 mentors, but they're usually not the helpful types until you hit level 80+ when they Plevel you for points.