Ok, so I know we have a thread up about clans and alliance already, but it's turned into a sitcom on FOX. So, I wanted to set up a thread to get peoples opinions on who the powerhouses on Bartz are atm. I'm gonna add in a poll to let people vote.*I probably won't get every clan/alliance, so don't be mad if i've skipped over you. ;)
Edit: Let me know if there's any specifics I missed about the clans. I'm not very knowledgeable on the clans on Bartz still. I decided to not use Alliances as choice, and seperated them to individuals
TWO by far, but nobody will admit it. They'll just flame and troll like Magnus stated. Everyone will vote their clan, but nobody will admit the truth. Whether you like it or not, TWO can pretty much roll through whatever clan or castle they choose. There are select groups that can stand up to them, but if TWO wants something, it's gonna happen. In time I'm sure other clans will get more powerful as people level and bring in new 85+ recruits, it's still a semi-fresh server, so give it time before you can really gauge where the bulk of the clans lie.
btw Law merged with TWO awhile ago, dunno why you have em on this list...
It will take some time till other clans in list reach their power.
Thanks for RedKnights being in list, but we have only 3 awakened ppl in clan yet. Still enough to have Remarkable war against greekwarriors and RedKnight and their 15+ awakened, but we are not big deal for now =)
My vote would do to 'the ancient ones' after TOW ally
Conclave > WO You know why? Zerrgs always end up losing in the end. Bartz L2 history always repeats itself. And shame on Haruko, been playin this bit long enough to know better by now lol
Well for this day TWO deffo are strong, lvl and lots of ppl does it's job, no doubt about that. Enigma looks good. As our clan(Conclave) we are growing together with ally and u defo see us around more and more. I hope further we will see more clans/alliances around. Enjoy the game!
stop calling TWO a zerg, Enigma have same number, yet they fail on every aspect of the game. TWO is VS Enigma+MK+Imperio+WarHunter+GreekWarriors+USSR+Mur kitos.... We are the zerg? SURE.. lol.
And Conclave.. a 41 man clan only pve'ing shouldnt be in this poll. I never see them pvp or do anythign at all. Atleast i've seen Unforgiven pvp Enigma 2-3 times at swamp spawn.. i aint flamming conclave as i dont have anything against them.. but they are not a factor on this server at all for now, maybe when they grow bigger and start pvping they can be in the server's top clans.
stop calling TWO a zerg, Enigma have same number, yet they fail on every aspect of the game. TWO is VS Enigma+MK+Imperio+WarHunter+GreekWarriors+USSR+Mur kitos.... We are the zerg? SURE.. lol.
And Conclave.. a 41 man clan only pve'ing shouldnt be in this poll. I never see them pvp or do anythign at all. Atleast i've seen Unforgiven pvp Enigma 2-3 times at swamp spawn.. i aint flamming conclave as i dont have anything against them.. but they are not a factor on this server at all for now, maybe when they grow bigger and start pvping they can be in the server's top clans.
I'm Conclave Leader and I'll tell you something.
Better to have a 41 pro members than your 100+ sheeps in TWO. Understand? Now bye.
p.s.
You are the greatest child in this forum, should we give a Nobel prize to you.
TWO for sure.
And Conclave.. a 41 man clan only pve'ing shouldnt be in this poll. I never see them pvp or do anythign at all. Atleast i've seen Unforgiven pvp Enigma 2-3 times at swamp spawn.. i aint flamming conclave as i dont have anything against them.. but they are not a factor on this server at all for now, maybe when they grow bigger and start pvping they can be in the server's top clans.
I agree with N1rvana.
iPwnU, you know kids who play TANK and who spam "I cant die by 10ppl"
I'm Conclave Leader and I'll tell you something.
Better to have a 41 pro members than your 100+ sheeps in TWO. Understand? Now bye.
p.s.
You are the greatest child in this forum, should we give a Nobel prize to you.
100 sheeps? every single member in TWO is better than any of your 41 private server players lol.
PS: You guys are attacking Aden? will be fun to drop your ''41 pro members'' and watch you guys stay on the floor to farm fame lol.
Less crying on forums, more manning up in game please. Mr. Pro player.
I agree with N1rvana.
iPwnU, you know kids who play TANK and who spam "I cant die by 10ppl"
You are that kid.
Now, it had nothing to do with my class, i was pointing out how they (Enigma, MK, etc.) fail at picking the right targets in pvp. i could be a Tyrr Warrior, a summoner, anything you want, it was me+healer vs a full party and they we're not even targetting the healer first.
You can easily try and prove it by sending us a war, you say your 41+ members are better than our 100+ members AND clan wars favors smaller clans, you have nothing to lose, are you going to man up and back your words? :)
Human stupidity is being taken to new heights each day on Bartz.
Conclave is a little nonfactor clan of some 40 random private server scrubs who never appeared anywhere ingame. Their top achievement is hitting lv 85 in Swampland which says enough. A while ago there was a rumour that they're killing Ant Queen so I planted an alt char in Conclave to see what's going on, and what I saw made me chuckle. They can't event put a single party together, let alone do something else.
As it's obvious, a few of their members are attempting to be forum warriors but they're just terrible even at that.
Human stupidity is being taken to new heights each day on Bartz.
Conclave is a little nonfactor clan of some 40 random private server scrubs who never appeared anywhere ingame. Their top achievement is hitting lv 85 in Swampland which says enough. A while ago there was a rumour what they're killing Ant Queen so I planted an alt char in Conclave to see what's going on, and what I saw made me chuckle. They can't event put together a single party, let alone do something else.
As it's obvious, a few of their scrub members are attempting to be forum warriors but they're just terrible even at that.
all I saw while xping in swamp your bots. Btw Im reg at forum before 3 days, dont be idiot.
p.s. That's all from me in this topic. cya gl hf mf
Well my thoughts:
1.we will get owned by lots of WO members, but I am not sure it will be so bad that everyone emoquit the clan
2.N1rvana didn't say we are 41pro players, he said better have 41pro players...(pls, don't even assume he did), read the topic and please figure it out for yourself
3.As for me, yes I am a player from a private servers ( that makes me a meat for the cannons in global as far as I understood in your interpretation)
4.sometimes I believe that private servers player and game quality is better than here :{
5. ppl make me sick than I see this flaming and calling idiots, noobs against each other. Play, have fun, hold your tongue in your mouth and be respectfull. But that's too much to ask I guess.
Well my thoughts:
1.we will get owned by lots of WO members, but I am not sure it will be so bad that everyone emoquit the clan
2.N1rvana didn't say we are 41pro players, he said better have 41pro players...(pls, don't even assume he did), read the topic and please figure it out for yourself
3.As for me, yes I am a player from a private servers ( that makes me a meat for the cannons in global as far as I understood in your interpretation)
4.sometimes I believe that private servers player and game quality is better than here :{
5. ppl make me sick than I see this flaming and calling idiots, noobs against each other. Play, have fun, hold your tongue in your mouth and be respectfull. But that's too much to ask I guess.
P.s. Sorry for my English
Regards,
Youth
saying ''its better 41 pro players than YOUR 100+ sheep'' when YOUR clan have exactly 41 and OUR clan have 100+ is exactly like saying conclave are pro players. Cant wait for war to start and see this :)
as you said, your english is bad, so i think we'd know.
PS: respect doesnt bring pvp. so why in hell would we respect you guys on internet? (stop mixing internet and real-life) we want competition, WE WANT PVP! We dont care about losing Aden, that's actually what we want, you could bring the whole server to Aden and try to take it from us, if we do lose it, that mean's we had COMPETITION, and that's what we play L2 for.
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PS: respect doesnt bring pvp. so why in hell would we respect you guys on internet? (stop mixing internet and real-life) we want competition, WE WANT PVP! We dont care about losing Aden, that's actually what we want, you could bring the whole server to Aden and try to take it from us, if we do lose it, that mean's we had COMPETITION, and that's what we play L2 for.
To me if someone roll play a jerk on internet he/she is a jerk. May be, in what you say RL his/her behaviour is different but i don’t know if that's true or not. I see what i see.
Apart from this i have to agree with you that Lineage II is a PvP, politics and drama game. But there are different ways to deal with it.
What I’m seeing in Bartz it’s very similar to what i lived in the first times in Hindemith.
May be GoD changed too much the bones of the game, at this moment i don't know it, will see, but if the change is not really big, with time the game will put each one on his/her place.
Strength can be build, honour and respect have to be deserved.
saying ''its better 41 pro players than YOUR 100+ sheep'' when YOUR clan have exactly 41 and OUR clan have 100+ is exactly like saying conclave are pro players. Cant wait for war to start and see this :)
as you said, your english is bad, so i think we'd know.
PS: respect doesnt bring pvp. so why in hell would we respect you guys on internet? (stop mixing internet and real-life) we want competition, WE WANT PVP! We dont care about losing Aden, that's actually what we want, you could bring the whole server to Aden and try to take it from us, if we do lose it, that mean's we had COMPETITION, and that's what we play L2 for.
I actually feel sorry for u, because the way you treat in a game is the same way you treat people in life and that's not going to get u far.
I have yet to lose a pvp vs WO.
come out of town? i mean.. if it helps u sleep at night, keep lying lol.
not liek i care much anyways, i can say the same bout me vs ur clan. lol.
+1
-1, you're just a random kid raging 24/7. stop trying so hard typar
I actually feel sorry for u, because the way you treat in a game is the same way you treat people in life and that's not going to get u far.
Regards,
Youth
i hope you're kidding me.. if you really believe the way ppl act on internet shows how they act in real-life... i feel sorry for you dude. I mean prolly some people does, but i've met some ppl living in my town or same province as me who i've played with or against, and were complete *******es in-game, and they turned to be very nice people in RL.
game is game, war is war, and l2 = drama and politics. stop mixing all these with real life.
I play MMOs because murder is frowned upon in most modern societies, and rewarded in games.
I'm looking forward to the war; this is an opportunity for a lot of people to earn their chops, and for a lot of people to prove their worth.
Yeah, I'm from a private server. On that server, I was a senior member of the largest, most powerful clan there. We had Goddard, and the rest of our alliance carried Aden & Rune. On that server, I had to contend and keep up with people who paid RL money and walked around with +16 gear, full boss jewels, +35 weapons, and tattoos that made you basically invincible -- and, I did it all in a +6 drac set with a pair of nicely sa'd +13 demon splinters that I ++'d up myself.
People like to look down on those of us who came from private servers, but from what I've seen of retail thus far, NCWest could learn a *LOT* from some of these l2j server admins (also, from what I've seen, they HAVE learned a lot. L2, now, is definitely more akin to a private server experience than *anyone* who played from 2004 would care to admit).
I have read these forums for years but when people start getting so delusional to think that how someone acts in a game and how they act in real life should be similar then they need to go back to playing sims or something. Seriously?? Come on now.
People play video games to waste time, have fun, relax, escape daily life, BE THE BEST, WINNING.
private servers are just that. How someone thinks Lineage 2 should have been. Not the official way. Get over it, people who payed for years are going to flame you and say you cant **** it on official.
I have read these forums for years but when people start getting so delusional to think that how someone acts in a game and how they act in real life should be similar then they need to go back to playing sims or something. Seriously?? Come on now.
People play video games to waste time, have fun, relax, escape daily life, BE THE BEST, WINNING.
private servers are just that. How someone thinks Lineage 2 should have been. Not the official way. Get over it, people who payed for years are going to flame you and say you cant **** it on official.
+1 to why people play video games :)
As far as the private servers comment: Yeah, sure. It's funny, though, to see so many people I knew from private servers holding their own just fine here on retail (myself included). When I heard retail L2 went F2P, I was here in a hurry, thinking "finally, a chance to prove my chops".. And here I am, proving my chops :)
As far as the private servers comment: Yeah, sure. It's funny, though, to see so many people I knew from private servers holding their own just fine here on retail (myself included). When I heard retail L2 went F2P, I was here in a hurry, thinking "finally, a chance to prove my chops".. And here I am, proving my chops :)
+1
I'm on the same way =)
Ah, and dont fool urselves thinking that ppl from private server are less skilled then retail players.
Hmmm...I don't think that people from private servers are better or worse then anyone else on the server. We all play L2 at different committment levels is all, those that play to have fun, those that play to win, and those that play just to be neutral and hang with their friends I guess. Well in my clan personally, I try to compile like minded people that want to do all the end game content, take castles, pvp constantly, and win....this is the things white order excels and wants to do.
Anyways, we play to win...and NO I am not a jerk or mean person in real life, as a matter of a fact I am probally the nicest guy you could meet in real life, but in the game I play to win and sometimes my character portrait's the characteristics of a ****** bag, but that doesnt mean I am one in real life....play the game and have fun...
Anyways, we play to win...and NO I am not a jerk or mean person in real life, as a matter of a fact I am probally the nicest guy you could meet in real life, but in the game I play to win and sometimes my character portrait's the characteristics of a ****** bag, but that doesnt mean I am one in real life....play the game and have fun...
~Damagon
you are right and I agree.
I believe most of us play to win.
+1 to you
Hmmm...I don't think that people from private servers are better or worse then anyone else on the server. We all play L2 at different committment levels is all, those that play to have fun, those that play to win, and those that play just to be neutral and hang with their friends I guess. Well in my clan personally, I try to compile like minded people that want to do all the end game content, take castles, pvp constantly, and win....this is the things white order excels and wants to do.
Anyways, we play to win...and NO I am not a jerk or mean person in real life, as a matter of a fact I am probally the nicest guy you could meet in real life, but in the game I play to win and sometimes my character portrait's the characteristics of a ****** bag, but that doesnt mean I am one in real life....play the game and have fun...
~Damagon
Even though I hate getting pwnt by your efin +16 lightsaber, I aprove this post. Im actually the hilarious one in vent, but Im a **** on the forums. Its just too fun.
As far as the private servers comment: Yeah, sure. It's funny, though, to see so many people I knew from private servers holding their own just fine here on retail (myself included). When I heard retail L2 went F2P, I was here in a hurry, thinking "finally, a chance to prove my chops".. And here I am, proving my chops :)
Dont take the ''private server noobs'' too seriously, it's ''general''. Cause most of the time, the clans dont last long on private server, ppl come and go, private server can get from 2k player base to 200 in a day. its mostly full of trashes trying to find new glitches and abuse it, or just trying to zerg a server, fail and change server, OR they win the zerg fight, n the opposition change server. of course there are some good players coming from private server, its just kinda rare. :P If you're one of the few, then good stuff, keep it up! :P