C3 - Manor system reset at 4m: Upset Euros. Americans said "server time so xfer or ****".
C4 - Olympiad at midnight-6am: Upset Euros. Americans said "Server time so xfer or ****".
Gracia - TW 2am-4am: Upset Euros. Americans said "Server time so xfer or ****".
Gracia - AA sale from mammon sometime in the AM: Upset Euros. Americans said "Server time so xfer or ****".
75% of the server voted for time change. Upset Americans. Now YOU can xfer or ****!
Only downside I see is I don't want to see more rude/idiotic players who run round demanding stuff saying "bufffffff", "rezzzzzzzzzzzz" etc, 90% of the time they don't speak any english either.
C3 - Manor system reset at 4m: Upset Euros. Americans said "server time so xfer or ****".
C4 - Olympiad at midnight-6am: Upset Euros. Americans said "Server time so xfer or ****".
Gracia - TW 2am-4am: Upset Euros. Americans said "Server time so xfer or ****".
Gracia - AA sale from mammon sometime in the AM: Upset Euros. Americans said "Server time so xfer or ****".
75% of the server voted for time change. Upset Americans. Now YOU can xfer or ****!
Only downside I see is I don't want to see more rude/idiotic players who run round demanding stuff saying "bufffffff", "rezzzzzzzzzzzz" etc, 90% of the time they don't speak any english either.
Harsh but true i'm afraid :)
As for the buff/rez comment, I don't mind buffing/rezzing if I am in the area and have MP/not busy. But I DO mind if they then go away without even saying thanks.
(or tx, ty, thx,tnx, Obrigado or any other form of thanks).
And as for the trolls who will say "they probably don't speak english" they speak enough to ask for stuff, so they should speak enough to say thanks.
Ignorance really peeves me.
If they don't say thanks; when they come back for re-buff, I refuse. and say "you didn't say thanks last time." they get all upset and "boo hoo I can't level without buffs."
go away!
i dunno, last i checked there was a euro time server already, i dont mind a little time change but 4 hours diff is too big. i think theres goin to be less people at tw/sieges now because of rl stuff.
As for the buff/rez comment, I don't mind buffing/rezzing if I am in the area and have MP/not busy. But I DO mind if they then go away without even saying thanks.
Oh, dont' get me wrong, I don't mind buffing or rezzing oeople, I often rez people without them needing to ask.
It's just the culture thing I think, if someone says "can you buff me please?" or even "buff?" it's fine as it's a question and said nicely. However "buffffff" or "Ressss" is a demand and really annoys the hell outta me.... it's about that time I drop group and leave the party to die. (JOKE btw, I was really talking about random people demanding, not ppl in party :p).
Why are the servers hosted in the US and why do they only take USD? OWE BECAUSE THATS WHERE THE MONEY IS. Great you get to play a free game and you have taken over the servers be proud! When the NA players have had enough of being ignored we wont stick around. We will take our money to some other form of entertainment that caters to US. Once enough of that happens you will be looking for your next free to play game.
So gratz for the next few months enjoy your new found server. I for one am looking forward to GW2 and Tera unless the NCWest L2 staff wakes up, smells the cash and remembers where USD is printed and gives the NA players full transfers from Chronos to a NA server.
You know why NA players can be so demanding? We can afford to be its why the world hates us....
Why are the servers hosted in the US and why do they only take USD. OWE BECAUSE THATS WHERE THE MONEY IS. Great you get to play a free game and you have taken over the servers be proud! When the NA players have had enough of being ignored we wont stick around. We will take our money to some other form of entertainment that caters to US. Once enough of that happens you will be looking for your next free to play game.
So gratz for the next few months enjoy your new found server. I for one am looking forward to GW2 and Tera unless the NCWest L2 staff wakes up, smells the cash and remembers where USD is printed and gives the NA players full transfers from Chronos to a NA server.
You know why NA players can be so demanding? We can afford to be its why the world hates us....
I've played the game since 2005 probably spending over $2000 on monthly fees over this time, it's always been full of eurpoean players. L2 NA is a multinational game made in Korea and Advertised and distributed throughout the whole west, not just USA.
It's narrow minded idiots like you that give Americans a bad name. Did you know that there's other countries and real humans outside of planet America, they have families and houses and money like America too, mind boggling isn't it!
I've played the game since 2005 probably spending over $2000 on monthly fees over this time, it's always been full of eurpoean players. L2 NA is a multinational game made in Korea and Advertised and distributed throughout the whole west, not just USA.
It's narrow minded idiots like you that give Americans a bad name. Did you know that there's other countries and real humans outside of planet America, they have families and houses and money like America too, mind boggling isn't it!
It was your pompous post gloating about how NCwest finally stuck it to the Americans that prompted my response. So while I may make Americans look like narrow minded idiots. You do not paint much better picture for Euro's.
Only 1 real problem with your post there Ferine, aside from all the gloating.
Back through all the updates you mentioned, there was actually a server you COULD transfer to, with times that were good for you. You chose not to.
There currently is NO server for people from North America to transfer to. So it's not suck it up or move like it was before, its more like suck it up or quit.
its not like ncsoft wont change their mind later completely screwing a server up like chronos. why chronos was even on the list when everyone who rolled there chose that server knowing the times were american. server times are meh to me, as ncsoft makes these blatantly clueless decisions regardling the game.
also, no one can transfer as account services are down ffs.
Why are the servers hosted in the US and why do they only take USD? OWE BECAUSE THATS WHERE THE MONEY IS. Great you get to play a free game and you have taken over the servers be proud! When the NA players have had enough of being ignored we wont stick around. We will take our money to some other form of entertainment that caters to US. Once enough of that happens you will be looking for your next free to play game.
So gratz for the next few months enjoy your new found server. I for one am looking forward to GW2 and Tera unless the NCWest L2 staff wakes up, smells the cash and remembers where USD is printed and gives the NA players full transfers from Chronos to a NA server.
You know why NA players can be so demanding? We can afford to be its why the world hates us....
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Anyone who know's anything know's the forum account creation date means nothing. I've got 3 forum accounts, one of which dates back to 2005.
Did you claim that the US players were the biggest paying market then?
Sometimes the forum account creation date does mean something.
Did you claim that the US players were the biggest paying market then?
Sometimes the forum account creation date does mean something.
No? I haven't claimed anything, but you implying that someones credibility to comment on a topic is lessened by the creation date of their forum account is absolutely ludicrous.
Only 1 real problem with your post there Ferine, aside from all the gloating.
Back through all the updates you mentioned, there was actually a server you COULD transfer to, with times that were good for you. You chose not to.
There currently is NO server for people from North America to transfer to. So it's not suck it up or move like it was before, its more like suck it up or quit.
Fair point, but Teon/Naia or whatver Euro servers there have been have always been way ofer populated so it's not really a nice transfer to make. I was more pointing out that it's not an appealing idea to transfer and lose all your stuff. Either way I understand peoples problems and it's a shame that some have to lose out for the majority. I have nothing against Americans, I'm just bored in work, lol.
No? I haven't claimed anything, but you implying that someones credibility to comment on a topic is lessened by the creation date of their forum account is absolutely ludicrous.
If you're gonna do that then maybe it'd be an idea to use a signature like I do. Otherwise expect people to judge you bard on the info they can see below your avatar.
Back through all the updates you mentioned, there was actually a server you COULD transfer to, with times that were good for you. You chose not to.
Ummm no. Teon/Naia were excluded from transfers because of population problems (they were overpopulated).
So the Euro squatters took over Chronos. As a casual player this doesn't really mean anything to me. But I still don't understand why were there so many Euros on Chronos in the first place?
but you implying that someones credibility to comment on a topic is lessened by the creation date of their forum account is absolutely ludicrous.
It's not lessened, but highlighted. See the difference? He speaks like his forum account creation date is too close to his game account creation date.
So the Euro squatters took over Chronos. As a casual player this doesn't really mean anything to me. But I still don't understand why were there so many Euros on Chronos in the first place?
When the game first came out there weren't any Euro servers, so you have some Euro players that started out on NA servers because they didn't have a choice.
Also as many pointed out Teon/Naia were overpopulated, so to play with their friends/actually play they chose NA servers.
Honestly the problem isn't that of the players, its NC's fault. They should of made new servers with the correct times, proper transfers, ect. well before hand. Alas, they did not, and now we have a mass amount of people upset, with good reason.
People want to play on servers that are suited for their play times, and they should be able to. If NC really wanted solid results they would have made a polling in game survey that was based on time zone instead of time zone+wanted siege times.
Either way, what's done is done. NC hasn't said anything about changing it, so you're going to have people who got the times they want happy, and those who didn't really upset. That's how its going to be, and no one should be surprised with the current track record of NC.
Only 1 real problem with your post there Ferine, aside from all the gloating.
Let them gloat. It's the first time the Euros have beaten the US at anything. :D
So the Euro squatters took over Chronos.
Actually, they were Brasilians. And not just Brasilians, but ones too stupid to understand how summer time works in both hemispheres.
The time was ok (although not perfect... still better than what they used to have before) for Euros, so Euros voted for it too.
But I still don't understand why were there so many Euros on Chronos in the first place?
There weren't "so many" Euro players. Instead, there were so little US players left.
Infomorph, right question to ask "why there are so many Brazilians on Chronos, how were they able to understand voting if they don't speak English and vote" (when some people from North America apparently have big problem with comprehending simple thing as creating PIN for your character and go cry out loud on forums). If it was purely European squatters who took over Chronos it would be GMT+1 and not -2. But I put vote for -2 as well, since it had biggest chance to win, and siege/TW 23:00-01:00 is still more acceptable than 3:00-5:00.
Why are the servers hosted in the US and why do they only take USD? OWE BECAUSE THATS WHERE THE MONEY IS. Great you get to play a free game and you have taken over the servers be proud! When the NA players have had enough of being ignored we wont stick around. We will take our money to some other form of entertainment that caters to US. Once enough of that happens you will be looking for your next free to play game.
So gratz for the next few months enjoy your new found server. I for one am looking forward to GW2 and Tera unless the NCWest L2 staff wakes up, smells the cash and remembers where USD is printed and gives the NA players full transfers from Chronos to a NA server.
You know why NA players can be so demanding? We can afford to be its why the world hates us....
So the Euro squatters took over Chronos. As a casual player this doesn't really mean anything to me. But I still don't understand why were there so many Euros on Chronos in the first place?
Back in the day, Devianne was the Euro server, most Greek players lived there, since the merge, it's now Chronos, it's just a matter of history.
I can't say anything about the other servers, as I don't/didn't live there.
Apparently not only Euro players vote for time change (aside from Brazilians that is). There were people from my clan that voted new times, to make it easier for EU clanmates to participate on events. Apparently not all US people are selfish jerks, there are some that put clan integrity over own convenience.
honestly who really cares? Chronos was owned by Euro's for a long time... all top clans are Europeans... mmm majority are...forgive me...my friends list out of 77 ppl 56 of them are Europeans... holland, england, russia, bulgaria, latvia and the rest are 4 from canada and USA... hmm... maybe i am wrong but as far as i remember greeks/russians/bulgarians had bartz and chronos for long time...eventho they had to wake up at 3-5am... correct me if im wrong...
most NA players complain cause sunday afternoon 1-5pm many go shopping and park frezbee or football on tv...after 12 pack of beer 3 XL pizzas and L2... now... who will drink at 2pm ))))
So are the americans gonna transfer to another server?
Or wipe their tears and realize the new times are not even close to as bad as what euros have had since forever?
At least americans get to play in events during the light of day.
Transfer to where? I think that right there is the big problem everyone is complaining about. If they created an NA time friendly server, and allowed transfers to it, the problem would go away. Sure its an inconvienence, but the polls voted for a change. Europeans almost always had a server they could transfer to, they just didn't becuase they had friends on the NA times servers, or they lived on the server for so long they decided to grin and bear it, which is understandable.
If there was an option to transfer to a different server, then the argument "Transfer or shut up" would be valid, like it was for the last 7 years or so, just going the other way.
Only because you're so bad at most things you have to invent your own versions that no one else plays.
Game of Football anyone? That's proper football played worldwide, not American football that no one plays outside of America. :D
No one else plays it outside of America because everyone else are wusses and would get injured by the REAL american players. American Football is the real football, soccer is for ppl that don't like much scoring. I mean seriously a game that ends in a 1-0 win is NOT a **** sport, lol.
As has been previously pointed out, there are a couple of reasons why the time change is pretty unfair. First point is that for the vast majority of Euro players, they rolled here after Teon was already open. The second issue is that there is currently no transfer available. I have already spoken to the people I play with and we're in agreement to move to Bartz, but that can't happen until NCSoft opens transfers.
On a side note, the times aren't actually horrible for me right now, but I'm on the east coast of the US. Many of the people I play with are in the western US and some are from Australia. The new times are really much worse for them.
Don't worry, we (Americans) will be living in insolvency soon, too. Europe (especially the aptly-named PIGS) is just about 10 years ahead of us on the path towards financial ruin. But with presidents like Bush and Obama, we're catching up very fast.
No one else plays it outside of America because everyone else are wusses and would get injured by the REAL american players. American Football is the real football, soccer is for ppl that don't like much scoring. I mean seriously a game that ends in a 1-0 win is NOT a **** sport, lol.
American football is just a *****'s version of what we call Rugby. Ohh, lets prance around in pads and helmets so we don't get hurt and run about hugging each other!
As for the score thing..... I'[d rather have every second tense hanging on whether someone will score or not than to demand a load of irrelevant numbers piling up on my screen. More 'goals' = dull, harder fight = fun.