Is NcSoft working on resolving the BOT issue?
All server is boting what are you doing about this?
You let exploiters lvl 95's like Hypno to come to magmeld you give him a warning and now he is on magmeld,continuing to bot.
A cheater that exploited spezion and continues to bot will take hero stat on magmeld.Great job GM's.You are doing a great job.
There are ppl hitting lvl 90 w/o rune of xp.Just by boting 24/7.
The program everyone is using its ZRan.... you know it..you heard about it.
You get hundred of petitions but you are not acting.You are letting them ruin the game.
There are hundreds of players that are paying for rune's and lvl-ng the normal way but they will not be able to beat others cause they bot 24/7.
On answer will be much appreciated instead of deleting my post like you guys did last time.
Is NcSoft working on resolving the BOT issue?
All server is boting what are you doing about this?
You let exploiters lvl 95's like Hypno to come to magmeld you give him a warning and now he is on magmeld,continuing to bot.
A cheater that exploited spezion and continues to bot will take hero stat on magmeld.Great job GM's.You are doing a great job.
There are ppl hitting lvl 90 w/o rune of xp.Just by boting 24/7.
The program everyone is using its ZRan.... you know it..you heard about it.
You get hundred of petitions but you are not acting.You are letting them ruin the game.
There are hundreds of players that are paying for rune's and lvl-ng the normal way but they will not be able to beat others cause they bot 24/7.
On answer will be much appreciated instead of deleting my post like you guys did last time.
Almost all Clans have people botting, including yours.
They'll be found out eventually and soon enough. So no worries mate. I'm enjoying my slow grind to 99. (painfully of course...oh the pain...the pain)
Almost all Clans have people botting, including yours.
They'll be found out eventually and soon enough. So no worries mate. I'm enjoying my slow grind to 99. (painfully of course...oh the pain...the pain)
You're right about all major clans having botters but you are wrong about NCsoft going to do anything about it.
NCsoft has changed their enforcement policy enough over the years to know that if they strictly enforce the TOS their player base will shrink to almost nothing. They also know that they make the most money when they have a permissive enforcement policy with periodic token bans to keep up the pretense of policing the game. The only things legit players get from a permissive policy are characters 10 levels below the clans declaring war on them and attacking their castles. And, no, NCsoft doesn't care as long as they are making money.
me banearon la cuenta estando en el clan hall logeado para los mentees en realidad tengo un mes sin poder jugar bien por lag de conexion aca en venezuela hoy intento logear y me sale baneado en la pagina si alguien puede traducir esto a un gm le agradesco si es por bot puedo llenar el foro de videos asi q por estar sentado en el clan hall no entiendo q pasa
I dont really think that lvl90 is sooo hard to get even without runes. Its all about having free time and not failing at pve ;) ( im not even talking about fails at pvp...)
me banearon la cuenta estando en el clan hall logeado para los mentees en realidad tengo un mes sin poder jugar bien por lag de conexion aca en venezuela hoy intento logear y me sale baneado en la pagina si alguien puede traducir esto a un gm le agradesco si es por bot puedo llenar el foro de videos asi q por estar sentado en el clan hall no entiendo q pasa
Simply, this guy says the following: "i was banned. i was sitting inside my Clan Hall, just logged in for my mentees. Today (yesterday), i tried to log-in, but it appears that i'm banned. This last month, i've been having terrific internet problems, so I can't even play without a problem. If it was because they thought i was a Bot, i can fulfill the forum with videos. I don't understand why i was banned, if i was just sitting in my Clan Hall"
Is NcSoft working on resolving the BOT issue?
All server is boting what are you doing about this?
You let exploiters lvl 95's like Hypno to come to magmeld you give him a warning and now he is on magmeld,continuing to bot.
A cheater that exploited spezion and continues to bot will take hero stat on magmeld.Great job GM's.You are doing a great job.
There are ppl hitting lvl 90 w/o rune of xp.Just by boting 24/7.
The program everyone is using its ZRan.... you know it..you heard about it.
You get hundred of petitions but you are not acting.You are letting them ruin the game.
There are hundreds of players that are paying for rune's and lvl-ng the normal way but they will not be able to beat others cause they bot 24/7.
On answer will be much appreciated instead of deleting my post like you guys did last time.
I joined United alliance for few days...Legendary clan.
First thing they ask me was if i know how to use ranger...told them i dont know ..they told me if i wanna use it they will learn me how to.
So my question for u is...if your alliance use that **** ..why do u complain about it?:D
Go deep in swampland and you will find "uber aden owners" botting their ***** off, i pked their healer during their uber bot and they didnt even reacted towards me ^^ tho i made them flag healing their mobs and darkvengeance clan (if i remember right the name/clan crest) ***** them. Then i went again and that same pt was botting on the exact same place :=)
Also in gog/swamp/harnak u can also find them with finalorder botting, and lets not talk about toplatino clan.
Demon ive never see you botting so i can tell you seems to be a fair play (dunno if u also use r4nger like your ally tho) but if i were you i would check those randoms that you recruit (randoms enough to pm my CP members offering clan to them lol) and confirm if they use bots or no. Having so many botters under your leadership kinda kills your own topic.
If you really have an antibot policy in clan then show it to us by kicking all botters from your clan and ally.
Im happy to say atm my clan has 0 bots in it and everytime i find one i just dismiss them from clan. "Play fair or join another clan" thats my moto :=)
I hope to see improvements about this topic, would be sad see another "top" clan die thx to internal problems and mass banning due to bots.
GM's You are so bad, players have botted to 90+ and now botting in Garden of Genosis. NCsoft so bad they give cheaters a spot on bot of the month trophy which records chit that is humanly impossible. IE 14+ APO weapons (lol) XP trophy's (lol) and so on. They favor players for some reason. I mean all GM's would have to do is walk around GOG in shadow and just veiw for 5 minutes to see all the bots. Why they keep the GOG bots. They not paying anything to NCsoft, they are just preventing others from purchasing NC crap knowing its useless to even buy xp to keep up with the 24/7 GOG bots. Im not puting a dime into a game where i can't be competative against non human players. I mean its like playing against a chess master when you don't know how to play chess. Only BOT's got anything outa this event. Adena/items/epics, amazing. Look at the lvl 80-85 lvling grounds, everyone is boting up enchanters. I mean all they have to do is log in once a week. Look at the mentee crap, people are charging millions of adena to be a mentor because mentee's join and leave people to give mentor 7 day penalty. simple fix is give mentee penalty as well (not that hard).
OH i see we have a fresh retail players right here!
Just to clarify one thing, botting on retail is since c1, random player wont change it with his emo post to GM's. Just get over with that and start doing the same or emo quit and go play some pixelized game.
You're still lucky. Previously they didnt ban for botting permanently for first time.
Final Order consists in 200 member's i can not keep track of each and every member that is farming the normal way or by boting.
I concentrate on my clan as much as i can and i try to do my best when it comes to boters.I expelled a massive amount of member's this can be checked via museum statistics.I tried to keep only the active and the trusted member's in my clan.
I'm not pro boting i detest players that use it,may it be for farm or pvp.
Its clear that i wouldn't have made this topic if i knew that i have bots in my clan.I make weekly meetings where i address the problem of boting and notify every member's that if they bot they risk expel.
Regarding my alliance you will see some changes very soon.
I hope this answer's your questions AceKilla and Yuriko.
There are two types of botters, botters who do it for a living (Farmers) and Botters who do it to be 'pro'.
In the past, a couple of very very good Botting Programs were developed, the best were made by the Chinese Farmers to farm adena for sale. Suffice to say, the Botters were always 1 to 2 steps ahead of NCSoft. Which explains all the little weird quirks of targeting, strange teleporting/transforming mobs, etc.
Farmers were a nuisance, but they were doing it for a living, and the community itself had to be blamed, because if you RMT, you were supporting the industry and part of the problem. If the buying stops, the botting will.
The other more insidious Botting are the ar.seholes who bot to be 'pro' in game. (a little sad to cheat in-game but to each his own eh?) There are a lot of them. Judging by the number of people in the Botting Forums, and those are just the ones who bother to register, there are about 1 to 2 server worth of botters.
That's a lot of botters. How many are botting in Retail? it's a little hard to find out, unless NCSoft is willing to invest time and to find out, since the botters are botting on private servers as well.
But I think part of the Botting problem has been solved, judging from the in-game advertising for RMT, it's falling every week, which just means not alot of people is bothering to RMT.
So all that remains are the Cheaters, two problems solved, just one more to go, and i have a feeling NCSoft is going to take a play out of the XBOX 360 playbook for people who do not play fair.
NCsoft is never going mass ban botters. NC West tried it around the time Aion was released. They learned the hard way by driving away millions of dollars in business that noone in the West is going to play Lineage 2 with an Asian style grind. That leaves them with a choice of losing lots of money or adopting a permissive enforcement policy which is more inline with Western preferences. Those of you that think NCsoft can't automatically distinguish a bot from the official game client probably still believe in the tooth fairy. They have demonstrated the ability to get rid of bots overnight in the past. They just choose to not run off 75% of their paying customers.
I joined United alliance for few days...Legendary clan.
First thing they ask me was if i know how to use ranger...told them i dont know ..they told me if i wanna use it they will learn me how to.
So my question for u is...if your alliance use that **** ..why do u complain about it?:D
Excuse me for my bad english.
lmao hes complaining about bots on magmeld when half his Alliance Bots...... i know for a fact just as AceKilla stated that Legendary are bots i was also in legendary and they all bot or atleast most of them and they dont hesitate to tell anyone on their team speak about it and dont play dumb that you dont know, if you dont know maybe you need to put someone else in charge that can see straight and not be blinded by stupidity
awesome pro clan you got there ahahah
Demon man stop crying and fix your own clan lol dont cry to ncsoft when you cant even kick people from you own alliance lol
In TopLatino Clan, our policy is not to support anyone who uses bot, If any of our members is caught using any bot, have no doubt that person will be expelled from the clan :mad:.
But remember that this game is run by a company (NcSoft_West) and it is she who must take the necessary measures so that people who use cheat to be pulled out of the game.
In TopLatino Clan, our policy is not to support anyone who uses bot, If any of our members is caught using any bot, have no doubt that person will be expelled from the clan :mad:.
Get your facts straight Demon. I do not bot. I would not risk everything my clan earns and a clan warehouse worth more then your entire clans assets put together for some xp that i can make by working hard for it like i always have and always will. Get a life and grow up. My party can make more then 2b per day on good days and I am going to throw that away?
Have you even seen me xp before? Like really? We in GOG Upper south east. Comeon out and have a look bra, maybe your clan would war us and come take it from us.. its a very pro spot :P
Get your facts straight Demon. I do not bot. I would not risk everything my clan earns and a clan warehouse worth more then your entire clans assets put together for some xp that i can make by working hard for it like i always have and always will. Get a life and grow up. My party can make more then 2b per day on good days and I am going to throw that away?
Have you even seen me xp before? Like really? We in GOG Upper south east. Comeon out and have a look bra, maybe your clan would war us and come take it from us.. its a very pro spot :P
Of course your entire cwh worth's more then my clan's worth.To be honest there is no clan on this server to have your cwh,but why is that i'm asking my self....o yeaaaa you transferred here whit: "money money money where's my money i'm a rich hypopotamus"
I'm so sorry Hypopotamys i can't come and farm there...my members couldn't exploit espesion to make lvl 95 isn't that why you got banned for?
We will be there my ugly little friend just have patience my little padawin.
P.S please reply to me on the other post.its called sieges..really interested in what your going to say.:D
My party can make more then 2b per day on good days and I am going to throw that away?
wait what ? 2 billions a day ?
Is your party the onwners of MacDonalds ?
Are those fat dwarfs spending all their money on your hamburgers ? :P
Im just kidding, but D*amn 2 billions a day, that makes me feel poor :P i would be happy with 100k a day , hell even 50k, i allways sucked at making adena ^^
Get your facts straight Demon. I do not bot. I would not risk everything my clan earns and a clan warehouse worth more then your entire clans assets put together for some xp that i can make by working hard for it like i always have and always will. Get a life and grow up. My party can make more then 2b per day on good days and I am going to throw that away?
Have you even seen me xp before? Like really? We in GOG Upper south east. Comeon out and have a look bra, maybe your clan would war us and come take it from us.. its a very pro spot :P
do i need to come out to faires and watch ur toon bounce from cocoon to cocoon like a hot potato before u even attack anything?.lmao in game recordin is a great thing
do i need to come out to faires and watch ur toon bounce from cocoon to cocoon like a hot potato before u even attack anything?.lmao in game recordin is a great thing
Of course your entire cwh worth's more then my clan's worth.To be honest there is no clan on this server to have your cwh,but why is that i'm asking my self....o yeaaaa you transferred here whit: "money money money where's my money i'm a rich hypopotamus"
I'm so sorry Hypopotamys i can't come and farm there...my members couldn't exploit espesion to make lvl 95 isn't that why you got banned for?
We will be there my ugly little friend just have patience my little padawin.
P.S please reply to me on the other post.its called sieges..really interested in what your going to say.:D
I was 95 before we started that for the record Demon, hence why i was still 95 after they removed all the XP. We made money I wont deny. I am not afraid of you at sieges - my guys had a lot of fun, and as i said, a castle is not the highest priority in the world for me, hence following through with "I dont intend to crush you guys" comments.
You guys shoulda heard this guy QQ in ventrilo when I met him. Wanted to ally my clan, telling me that we needed each other and the server was to tough without each other. I told him my clan would never ally as I have told everyone else that we talk to. Then he tried to shadystyle middle man a clan hall to me and instead was actually just seeking information about our clan and who we were!
wait what ? 2 billions a day ?
Is your party the onwners of MacDonalds ?
Are those fat dwarfs spending all their money on your hamburgers ? :P
Im just kidding, but D*amn 2 billions a day, that makes me feel poor :P i would be happy with 100k a day , hell even 50k, i allways sucked at making adena ^^
Realisticly each member makes about that each day they play. They wont see something for days, then I dump mega adena on them to complete an armor set, a dye set, etc etc.
I can vouch for what Hypno just said. Hell myself being a 92 rogue I make enough money to just sustain myself without needing help and still have a lot left over. The parties get multiple apoc weapon drops/twilight armor drops a day. I wouldn't really worry about the worthless adena bots on the bottom floor lol. You can make more money not botting and more xp not botting.
I dont know how things are at those lvls, but at 87 its impossible for me to make that kind of adena while farming xp, if it is possible i dont know how, ill be stuck with event items for a LONG time :P.
Realisticly each member makes about that each day they play. They wont see something for days, then I dump mega adena on them to complete an armor set, a dye set, etc etc.
thats not what ur members are saying. they say when u do get drops u sell them for high price to ur members like those twilight breastplates for 500m.
so are u sure with "each member" u didnt mean "each member of my cp"?
The bots already own the server... Maybe one day some will be banned just as an example... :(
Have fun while Diablo 3 or TERA does not come... I got tired of waiting for something from NCSoft...
Realisticly each member makes about that each day they play. They wont see something for days, then I dump mega adena on them to complete an armor set, a dye set, etc etc.
Right, so clealy they dont expect me to give away my constant parties drops to them freely? lol.
so is it "each member" or "each member only of ur cp?"
also selling stuff overprized to clannies is a very different thing then giving it away for free
so all in all, ur entire clan except ur cp is only there to feed u in oly/do something when you need it. must make them feel appreciated.
so is it "each member" or "each member only of ur cp?"
also selling stuff overprized to clannies is a very different thing then giving it away for free
so all in all, ur entire clan except ur cp is only there to feed u in oly/do something when you need it. must make them feel appreciated.
You really are trolling it hard. Are you a genocide trying to incite rebellion in Dark Vengeance? Seems likely. You dont even make sense man, this must be Bispo.
You really are trolling it hard. Are you a genocide trying to incite rebellion in Dark Vengeance? Seems likely. You dont even make sense man, this must be Bispo.
My entire clan i treat every well for the record.
im not trolling, not even trying to talk bad about you, i was just saying what YOUR clan members are saying to people.
Didn't make a clan on Chronos and would be welcomed by Nova or Enmity with open arms. I appreciate your effort.
Actually Eynel wouldnt allow sector into there and I thought it was your whole party that apped.. that part could be wrong but sector and crew would never be accepted in enmity.
its funny how people see stuff happening...
ex: - clan/ally x beats clan/ally w because they are organised/have better gear ... omg n00b botters/omg n00b transfers
- clan/ally/party y beats clan/ally/party X' in 7v7... omg they zerged us (*le wild 2-5 invisible players on their side*)
- player z moves from clan a to clan b. clan a are enemies with clan b... omg n00b *** kisser
the list might continues but these are some of the most encountered stereotypes in lineage...
dont go to the police if your neighbour is growing marijuana(but your neighbour's weed is better than the one you grow)... you just might loose your own plants and end up in a bad situation (some people will get the point of this last phrase, some will not)
On answer will be much appreciated instead of deleting my post like you guys did last time.
I ll not give my opinion, but just a help. Remove the character name of the 1 player right now if you want the topic to stay. It is the main reason for topics to be removed. It is not allowed.
...My party can make more then 2b per day on good days and I am going to throw that away?....
How much hours of playing is a day for you? I guess if you play all day and you drop 4 leather armors it is possible, but ur braggin I believe. How come your character is 95+ on a new server? Transfer? Otherwise it is a tiny bit fast, even if you don't do anything else.
Is NcSoft working on resolving the BOT issue?
All server is boting what are you doing about this?
You let exploiters lvl 95's like Hypno to come to magmeld you give him a warning and now he is on magmeld,continuing to bot.
A cheater that exploited spezion and continues to bot will take hero stat on magmeld.Great job GM's.You are doing a great job.
There are ppl hitting lvl 90 w/o rune of xp.Just by boting 24/7.
The program everyone is using its ZRan.... you know it..you heard about it.
You get hundred of petitions but you are not acting.You are letting them ruin the game.
There are hundreds of players that are paying for rune's and lvl-ng the normal way but they will not be able to beat others cause they bot 24/7.
On answer will be much appreciated instead of deleting my post like you guys did last time.
Jesus dude there's been bots since C2 and the GMs still haven't successfully wiped them out, get over it.
I have to disagree with ppl who say its impossible to rid a game of bots and RMT seller, truth is most GM and company are just too greedy or lazy to tackle them. All except one, have a look at this recent article, this is what happens, when a good game company REALLY crack down on RMT seller and Bots.