ANd without buffs, I can't remember either. I know my mage pets with full Iss buffs + my character wearing Immortal Robes + Requiem mage sword + Requiem sigil + Ultimate Servitor Share gave them more than 10k matk.
Same for the cougars with this setup: Iss buffs + light armor + bow + ultimate servitor share= more than 4k patk.
Not sure if that helps THAT much since you asked without buffs, but it's the best I can do for you until the server's back up. Keep in mind that the stats would probably change depending on the race of the summoner, I suppose Dark Elven summoners would give more matk to their mage summons because of their higher matk. Mine is a Kamael awakened summoner with a stone of destiny, and it seems we get Human stats ;)
These basic stats are being applied to your kamael summoner.
And imo these are the best to have together with final form. (we're not the worst at anything and have advantage over most classes on the damage department).
These basic stats are being applied to your kamael summoner.
And imo these are the best to have together with final form. (we're not the worst at anything and have advantage over most classes on the damage department).
You sure, Yuna? Cause I feel slow as a human mystic :D And I met someone in game that was a Kamael Aeore and said that we got Human stats. So I was confused. I don't remember what my Warlock stats were, neither I had the chance to awaken or talk to a human summoner to check it out, and the information I found was conflicting so I just believed her lol
Editing again: That link speaks about pre-awakening stats? Is there any link that shows post-awakening stats by any chance? Because I know for a fact my DE Yul Archer has more than 100 strength (Don't know the exact value, it's definitely NOT 92).
You sure, Yuna? Cause I feel slow as a human mystic :D And I met someone in game that was a Kamael Aeore and said that we got Human stats. So I was confused. I don't remember what my Warlock stats were, neither I had the chance to awaken or talk to a human summoner to check it out, and the information I found was conflicting so I just believed her lol
Nono, Kamaels gain Kamael stats and race skills and Human skills when Awakening using SoD into something they shouldn't have awaken into according to the archetypes.
Well nevertheless, I don't care much about the stats. I'm happy being a Summoner, whether I have Kamael or Human stats doesn't bother me.
It's just out of curiosity. Still wished to see a post-awakening table like the one Yuna posted!
You should care, at least a little. A kamael's servitors will always be stronger than a humans for no reason other than them being kamael when the gear is the same. This is an unearned and undeserved advantage given to certain players for no apparent reason.
You sure, Yuna? Cause I feel slow as a human mystic :D And I met someone in game that was a Kamael Aeore and said that we got Human stats. So I was confused. I don't remember what my Warlock stats were, neither I had the chance to awaken or talk to a human summoner to check it out, and the information I found was conflicting so I just believed her lol
Editing again: That link speaks about pre-awakening stats? Is there any link that shows post-awakening stats by any chance? Because I know for a fact my DE Yul Archer has more than 100 strength (Don't know the exact value, it's definitely NOT 92).
Well mystics are overall slow (im guessing you mean movement). And summoners have a big problem moving around (no warp, rush, etc).
This link is from GOD patch notes, all that is there shows the current base stat for races which is equal for both pre-awakening and post-awakening. (your basic atributes don't change when awakening if you are going from mystic to mystic or fighter to fighter).
Your dark elf yul archer has STR passives, initialy he only had 92 STR (during day), if you look at his passives, he has on superior bow mastery STR+2, and on other skills aswell which rises their STR, while as a summoner you have passive that increase your INT.
superior bow/crossbow master: str+2
Superior Light Armor Mastery:str+2
Superior Survival Ability:str+2
Superior Mind Resistance:str+2
Superior Critical Mastery:str+2
Superior Magic Resistance:str+2
Superior Elemental Resistance:str+2
LOL. Ok, I feel dumb at the moment, but that makes sense. I had totally forgotten about the Superior passives.
You should care, at least a little. A kamael's servitors will always be stronger than a humans for no reason other than them being kamael when the gear is the same. This is an unearned and undeserved advantage given to certain players for no apparent reason.
Really couldn't care less, honestly enough. NCSoft shouldn't have pushed my Soul Hound to being a nuker instead of giving a chance to choose whether I wanted to keep the melee side of my Soul Hound or the nuker side of my soul hound.
If I had been given a chance to choose, I'd have chosen to be a rogue rather than being a nuker, because what pushed me to love my Soul Hound was the rapier style of fighting and not the nukes.
And I don't care about what people say, Soul Hounds were hybrids. It was the beauty of the class right there. I wanted to be given a chance to choose to go melee, but I wasn't. Instead, upon awakening, I was pushed into being the class I disliked the most in this game. I feel this is compensation for screwing up with my class with awakening to begin with.
LOL. Ok, I feel dumb at the moment, but that makes sense. I had totally forgotten about the Superior passives.
Really couldn't care less, honestly enough. NCSoft shouldn't have pushed my Soul Hound to being a nuker instead of giving a chance to choose whether I wanted to keep the melee side of my Soul Hound or the nuker side of my soul hound.
If I had been given a chance to choose, I'd have chosen to be a rogue rather than being a nuker, because what pushed me to love my Soul Hound was the rapier style of fighting and not the nukes.
And I don't care about what people say, Soul Hounds were hybrids. It was the beauty of the class right there. I wanted to be given a chance to choose to go melee, but I wasn't. Instead, upon awakening, I was pushed into being the class I disliked the most in this game. I feel this is compensation for screwing up with my class with awakening to begin with.
I didn't realize that you were a kamael summoner. Well that makes sense. Of course you aren't going to give a ****, you have the unfair advantage for no real reason. Unearned and undeserved. Ncsoft should have forced you and those like you into human stats as well as skills.
NO real reason because it wasn't your class being screwed up by awakening, right? I bet if it had been, then you'd have a completely different idea.
The difference why I don't give a **** is because I don't play this game to be 'better than everyone else'. If I had worse stats, I wouldn't have given a **** all the same. Keep in mind I was actually told that I had human stats until I came to this thread. And I didn't give a **** all the same. Unlike some, I'm not playing to be better than anyone else, I'm playing for my own enjoyment.
And Feoh Wizard was NOT in the enjoyment equation. So yes, thank you NCsoft for giving us a chance to get out of a screwed up awakening that would force me to give up on my Kamael.
That table is also on patch notes ( http://www.lineage2.com/en/game/patch-notes/goddess-of-destruction/character-changes/ ) but the thing is, I see that dwarf have the same STR/INT but better CON/MEN. a dark elf has better INT and almost the same STR during the day (they gain str/int at night). Since new players have no stone, they should start leveling dark elf, the stats are good, racial skills are very good, not to mention another 10 wind attack instead of useless dark attack as a kamael.
That table is also on patch notes ( http://www.lineage2.com/en/game/patch-notes/goddess-of-destruction/character-changes/ ) but the thing is, I see that dwarf have the same STR/INT but better CON/MEN. a dark elf has better INT and almost the same STR during the day (they gain str/int at night). Since new players have no stone, they should start leveling dark elf, the stats are good, racial skills are very good, not to mention another 10 wind attack instead of useless dark attack as a kamael.
But i get cat buff on Olympiad :D that owns any +2 str any other race has to give. And final form for raids.
Which means theyre good in PvE and better at 1vs1 pvp than a dark elf. But that's just my opinion.
Personally I dont think that final form is that good for pvp but for pve for sure it is. I guess other races will have the cat buff too, I have a bunch of lvl 40's, including dwarfs, leveled just for cube in the past and all of them have the stone, they can awaken in any class including summoner so they get warlock skills. As dark elf you have to be other class than summoner (plus the stone) to awaken as summoner with warlock skills, as I did with my buffer SE which is now enchanter with mystic immunity and nice race skills from dark elf. Other option is dual class but only if you never do oly xD