Ravenous Vs Sorcerer [Feb,21]

Bartz Started Last reply 74 posts
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Check Sorcerer reply :
http://boards.lineage2.com/showpost.php?p=3196732&postcount=13

Also check the very-cute-drawing of RentalDaughter about this case :
http://boards.lineage2.com/showpost.php?p=3196957&postcount=28

Sorcerer won the discussion because Ravenous recently got banned.
http://boards.lineage2.com/showpost.php?p=3203099&postcount=61
Sharif is my hero
boring
I'm in favor of Rav. He may not have friends irl but he has us in the game. People who think they're friends with Sorc just because he gave them money or things are expendable idiots that he'll cut off once he gets bored. Rav hurry and stomp WOs ***** in the next olympiad most of the server's population is behind you. Hell you should just do what Sorc tried (and failed at) and gather as many clans as possible to shut them down. Just dont stoop so low you pay money for it =). Anyway back to getting more WO players banned for botting =)
I second Rav.
I don't know both very well but, with all the respect Sorcerer, from what i've read, i'm in favor of Ravenous.
This sorcerer is player w/0 skill, just he get items with money. Im sure that he dont know how to do any quest in L2 LOOL. +1 Rav Conclave is with you.

Sorcerer, rich kid, no one here like you. Only your boters in clan :D Dumbas

iErikka
lol

sorcerer only $$$ to win and says bot when his clan is full of bots
For some reason the text was killing me to read, couldn't someone just sum all this up ?

One guy saying one guy is a lazy cheat and the other guy says the other guy has no skill ?
Thanks for the info back ^^
I find it absolutely hilarious how many people actually believe Ravenous is legit. But a poll? Seriously? Oh well, bunch of kids always need their drama.

Sorcerer isn't the one who ragequit over Hero feeds.
This sorcerer is player w/0 skill, just he get items with money. Im sure that he dont know how to do any quest in L2 LOOL. +1 Rav Conclave is with you.

Sorcerer, rich kid, no one here like you. Only your boters in clan :D Dumbas

iErikka

Sorcerer's been playing L2 since you were in diapers; considering you talk like a 6 year old that sounds about right.

No one cares what you think. Go do some quests.
Who cares?

Someone teach them how to use pm and its over.

:p
Ravenous was asked to leave TWO with his constant exp bot party because he refused to give Hero to the other people in clan that helped him the prior month.

It was an easy decision for me as a clan leader to kick him, because selfish people being in a clan only causes drama.

People should be selfless for their clan members, not selfish.


In addition, for those of you who think that Ravenous is not a cheater, just look at his exp gained. In addition you can go to GoG and see him botting all day and night :)

And for those of you who bash people for spending IRL money on NC Coin, Ravenous' weapon is a +10 Apoc... From Destruction scrolls that he spent $500 on xD

The difference is, $500 for him is a weeks paycheck... $500 for me is 10 minutes of work.... Which is more irresponsible? lol
The difference is, $500 for him is a weeks paycheck... $500 for me is 10 minutes of work.... Which is more irresponsible? lol

Win.
XD
Since Ravenous was my mentor and we talked tons of times, my vote goes to him ofc..
No offence for Sorc but I dont know him, and never talked with him.. And I really dont care if someone is wasting his money in a game.. If he can afford it then good for him, its not my prob, and Im not the guy who gonna judge someone who wish to spend money in a game.. Everyone spend money for his hobbies or his fun.
where is the "WHO CARES" option , i demand it! , both are stupids , sorcerer talking about bots when his co-leader is one and ravenous beeing one , couple of failz0rz QQ.
The difference is, $500 for him is a weeks paycheck... $500 for me is 10 minutes of work....



you can have 500 dollars per minute,but apparently,you do not know what humility means :/
This is all so 2004, grow Up people
People of BARTZ, this can't be the elite of our realm spreading coins and rumors to elevate, they are desecrating our thrones and our crown ! But we shall purify this heritage with the blood the corupted Lords !!!
People of BARTZ, this can't be the elite of our realm spreading coins and rumors to elevate, they are desecrating our thrones and our crown ! But we shall purify this heritage with the blood the corupted Lords !!!

I like him.
Rppvp
People of Bartz,
Is this the elite of our realm? spreading coins and rumors to elevate, knowing nothing about the brotherhood within a clan. At this very moment they are difaming our crown and our thrones. We shall purify our heritage with the blood of the corupted lords !!!!

LSD more man
Well, thanks for asking the opinions of everyone - most of whom don't know anything about the issue, which includes me :)

If I was going to form an opinion on the basis of what has been said and what I have observed in game I would say that the parting of companies was more than likely a silent mutual agreement on the basis of them not seeing eye to eye on who should be hero rather than it having anything to do with botting as WO has had (or still has) plenty of bots in their ranks which the leader has turned a blind eye to.

If Sorc spends money on the game then no-one should have an issue with this really as we all spend money on the game. Some spend more than others depending on their income (like 10% or something) but at the end of the day there is nothing fundamentally wrong with spending money on a computer game as we probably spend a lot more on other means of entertainment. What I do have an issue with is that the game is Pay2Win and I don't consider taking full advantage of this system a very noble way to play the game, however, it is still a **** sight better than going Bot2Win. Whether Rav is botting or not I don't know - only he knows that.
Hillarious stuff...
Both botters, i bet it started as a fight between them for the best bot-spot on GoG
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The difference is, $500 for him is a weeks paycheck... $500 for me is 10 minutes of work.... Which is more irresponsible? lol

What do you work with?
+10 Apoc... From Destruction scrolls that he spent $500 on xD


How do i do that? :P



The difference is, $500 for him is a weeks paycheck... $500 for me is 10 minutes of work.... Which is more irresponsible? lol

+1
I dont see any problem in donating if you have this money and it wont be any problem for you to spend it.
I bet that if all the ppl who complains about donation had enough money IRL, they would donate it too.
Time is money, and the money spent in donation sometimes is less then the money you could earn in the time you need to get the itens.


And to the topic..only the ppl from WO can tell who is right
It's a shame they use hero chat for such purposes..
The difference is, $500 for him is a weeks paycheck... $500 for me is 10 minutes of work.... Which is more irresponsible? lol


Then spent it on something important... and there is ppl who do way more then that and don't buy in game item like me...
+1 toughness
Ppl Got to learn what is loyalty. once u decide to join ur pledge u die for ur pledge instead of making dramas I don't know either of u but Im pretty sure a pledge leader always try his best to make pledge better. Being a member of the pledge should just follow the order. What matters is how well the pledge do but not how good urself r.
People of BARTZ, this can't be the elite of our realm spreading coins and rumors to elevate, they are desecrating our thrones and our crown ! But we shall purify this heritage with the blood the corupted Lords !!!

+1
Rppk

+2
Well, as much as both are pretty lame for the arguing in hero chat, and assuming what's been said is true, Ravenous should be held more at fault. If your clan fed you hero, and then next month asked you to help feed it to another member of your guild you should have obliged. Ok, he's lvl 86, does he have a subclass at a higher lvl? Is he more active as far as pvp goes? Instead it just looks like you were butthurt because Sorcere was "taking hero away from you" which is quite childish. Both parties need to grow up, but in reality, it's a video game, so act like a kid all you want and hopefully you guys get it out of your system and lead normal productive lives :)
Well, as much as both are pretty lame for the arguing in hero chat, and assuming what's been said is true, Ravenous should be held more at fault. If your clan fed you hero, and then next month asked you to help feed it to another member of your guild you should have obliged. Ok, he's lvl 86, does he have a subclass at a higher lvl? Is he more active as far as pvp goes? Instead it just looks like you were butthurt because Sorcere was "taking hero away from you" which is quite childish. :)

+1 xD
Ppl Got to learn what is loyalty. once u decide to join ur pledge u die for ur pledge instead of making dramas I don't know either of u but Im pretty sure a pledge leader always try his best to make pledge better. Being a member of the pledge should just follow the order. What matters is how well the pledge do but not how good urself r.

The mentality of a true clan member :)
Lol nothing like some good ol' L2 drama. Wonder what'll happen to these guys if/when they open transfers to Bartz.
Lol nothing like some good ol' L2 drama. Wonder what'll happen to these guys if/when they open transfers to Bartz.
+1

I'd rather see both of them fighting with swords than words. GL.
I really doubt that Ravenous will do anything out of 1v1's in Olympiad, In Sieges and TW's, Its another story
The difference is, $500 for him is a weeks paycheck... $500 for me is 10 minutes of work.... Which is more irresponsible? lol

Based on 10 mins of work for $500 you should be around :

$ 1 080 000 / month
$ 12 960 000$ / year

Yet you play Computer games, and you nolife really hard on em.

Seems totally legit.
Based on 10 mins of work for $500 you should be around :

$ 1 080 000 / month
$ 12 960 000$ / year

Yet you play Computer games, and you nolife really hard on em.

Seems totally legit.

Very close! I am impressed.

What's wrong with playing a computer game? lol Should I watch TV instead?
Very close! I am impressed.

What's wrong with playing a computer game? lol Should I watch TV instead?

Tell us what do you do to get 1 million dollars per month.
Well I don't think this kind of talk belong here... but one can only doubt about a person talking about how rich they are in a video game forum.

Even if that was real, I find it funny that you would spend your time on an outdated video game.

Just my 2 cents
Sorry Sorcerer, but your income exceeds the maximum allowed to play this game. Obviously only lower and middle class players are allowed on L2 according to these guys.
Please keep to the games of polo and riding around on your yacht with tons of *****es like the high income people of the world are supposed to. How dare you try to entertain yourself in a fairly moderate fashion, you *******.
Just my input, you don't have to be rich to waste a bunch of money in this game.

Also who said the guy actually had to do anything to get that kinda money (not saying hes telling the truth or not) inheritance would be an easy way to park your *** in front of a comp all day long and spend your hours and money lvling up and OE the **** out of everything.

In any case, who gives a flying frick how much these ppl spend on the game, they are ensuring that next month with any luck this game will still be here for you to play, without you having to spend a single red penny. It's not cheating, might be considered lazy, but again, who gives a frick. Either you think it's worth your money to waste on runes and enchants and stuff or you would prefer to put that money into something else.

I have heard of ppl dumping a bunch of cash into this game and then starving their children, I'm sure at the time they thought it was well worth it to put that money into enchanting, I'm also sure they told themselves that they could afford it. Sadly again not any of our business. Sorc can be some rich ***** or he could be a daddy not bothering to pay for his kids child support, none of our affairs, just be happy someone else is buying your free game time for you.
Just treat people with high lvl and more leisure time as "lifeless". This is just pure envy for a lvl in the game... This attitude is not worthy of the term "lifeless" than the first case?

I do not care if Sorcerer has millions of dollars or dont have a life. Im less interested if Ravenous is Lady Di and make a gossip show in hero chat. You should leave them alone; this is just a video game, if u enter here is to play, not for measure "the quality of life" of others.

I admire them as a player and I want to follow the same steps in the game..All of you too, stop envying.

You must stop turning L2 in a emo novel.
Sorry Sorcerer, but your income exceeds the maximum allowed to play this game. Obviously only lower and middle class players are allowed on L2 according to these guys.
Please keep to the games of polo and riding around on your yacht with tons of *****es like the high income people of the world are supposed to. How dare you try to entertain yourself in a fairly moderate fashion, you *******.

Quoted for truth! Rich people are committed to their dreams, poor people are just dreaming about their dreams.
Thad? Thad Castle?...
Is that you??
thad? Thad castle?...
Is that you??

blue sixteen blue sixteen
Rabble Rabble Rabble Rabble....


rabblerabblerabblerabble!!!!
Did u spend money for hero next month? :o
Did u spend money for hero next month? :o

he tryed but he got owned by +3-4 weaps at oly :(.
tl;dr

Drama as always :D
Update for bot bans :/
It just makes my heart warm to hear Ravenous and Flak were banned for botting.

JUST ALL WARM AND FUZZY INSIDE.
The mentality of a true clan member :)

It just makes my heart warm to hear Ravenous and Flak were banned for botting.

JUST ALL WARM AND FUZZY INSIDE.

My apologies Sorcerer you were right.
First post updated.

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Tell us what do you do to get 1 million dollars per month.

He gave up the opportunity of having a wife and children.
Ravenous was asked to leave TWO with his constant exp bot party because he refused to give Hero to the other people in clan that helped him the prior month.

It was an easy decision for me as a clan leader to kick him, because selfish people being in a clan only causes drama.

People should be selfless for their clan members, not selfish.


In addition, for those of you who think that Ravenous is not a cheater, just look at his exp gained. In addition you can go to GoG and see him botting all day and night :)

And for those of you who bash people for spending IRL money on NC Coin, Ravenous' weapon is a +10 Apoc... From Destruction scrolls that he spent $500 on xD

The difference is, $500 for him is a weeks paycheck... $500 for me is 10 minutes of work.... Which is more irresponsible? lol


You like to lie. Flak and Rav and you had a bad relationship, its understandable. But Jason also has the ability to see this and we all know his pt left clan without being asked. They left because you mass invited a bunch of idiots who cry when a constant wont kick their constant member for one of them. You never asked them to leave. Perhaps you should provide the GMs with an excuse as to why you transfer leadership every week to an alt character and cancel it before the server goes down every week. I am sure someone with your charisma can make up a completely plausible answer.
Someone's stupid enough to accuse a lv 87 char for botting.
Someone's stupid enough to accuse a lv 87 char for botting.

i havent even begun to talk about ventrillo conversations of different characters who were supposedly unbanned to grab gear and reban. I have reported those instances through the proper channels.
Lol slander someone's name on forums isn't allowed And this will be reported
As for your lies about ravenous the truth will prevail
You cannot call someone out on the forums and maybe you should read the rules before u claim u don't break any of them. Offering to pay people to report in hero chat is low and I'm sure is also frowned upon. But ten again it goes to show your character. The white order no castles no money no players no hereos . Looksl like your losing bro even with this unjust ban on a legit player. IMO ravenous wins u lost everything . Ravenous just lost his good name due to your illegal call out on the forums and mass reporting. Where's your crown king nothing
i havent even begun to talk about ventrillo conversations of different characters who were supposedly unbanned to grab gear and reban. I have reported those instances through the proper channels.

WTB more info on this.
supposedly

That's all it comes down to, bitter guesses and accusations.


Lol slander someone's name on forums isn't allowed And this will be reported
As for your lies about ravenous the truth will prevail
You cannot call someone out on the forums and maybe you should read the rules before u claim u don't break any of them. Offering to pay people to report in hero chat is low and I'm sure is also frowned upon. But ten again it goes to show your character. The white order no castles no money no players no hereos . Looksl like your losing bro even with this unjust ban on a legit player. IMO ravenous wins u lost everything . Ravenous just lost his good name due to your illegal call out on the forums and mass reporting. Where's your crown king nothing

You do realize that no one from WO cares or plays anymore since more than a month ago?
This is why I have hero chat disabled. No one else in the game gives a crap about your in-game beef that when you log off affects no one in real life, including yourself.

Obviously to become a hero you have to have no life at all so you can be there for every olympiad event and therefore have nothing else to do but b*tch at eachother all day, because you have no life.

Log off and see the sun every now and then? It might do you some psychological good!

Why become a hero if you are going to act like a whiney villian.

It's not going to get you real life money, fame, family, luxury, jobs, women, men, rabbits, penguins or cats (that last one is a code word)or whatever tickles you a.... (another code word) lets just say fancy.

Keep it to private chat or something because your in game reputation will never affect your real life one unless you start losing your job, failing school, losing relationships, ruining your health, going psycho and killing your enemy in real life, neglecting your child, etc.

It's a game, it should be played as a game. No one kills eachother over monopoly or scrabble right?

Throw the checker peices to the grown, clean them up, move on...

By the way? It's also banable in forum and game to signal other players out...

You may not be acting like an adult now but in real life you will have to at some point or face real life consequences. Can't play Lineage from jail or a insane asylum.
People of BARTZ, this can't be the elite of our realm spreading coins and rumors to elevate, they are desecrating our thrones and our crown ! But we shall purify this heritage with the blood the corupted Lords !!!
+1
What happened to The White Order and Sorcerer?
We are playing Archeage and Civ 5:eek:
BornInHell, no gameplay videos of archeage? Im kind of surprised
BornInHell, no gameplay videos of archeage? Im kind of surprised

Well.... our clan is fighting vs the whole server so it's probably 1 to 10 competition, furthermore, AA is kinda boring from a pvp stand point. We are hoping EU or NA will launch L2 classic, so we could all play. :eek:

TWO clan member posted a PVP movie on the YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o80UdLXID7Q