i was charged 75k one day and i felt it to b much more reasonable and easier for everyone. Buffer gets more business from ppl who couldnt spend 100k before on buffs and if u do the math300k is a great 2hrs of grinding!!!!
Why would they change the price ? Just because you don't have adena doesn't mean that others don't as well. If you don't like the price the best thing that you have to do is create an ISS yourself, that should make you happier.
Anyways... Try to buff yourself in Aden that's where there is more competition between prices, at least that's what happens in Shilen server.
When I'm in need of money, I offer my services buffing inside the Aden church doors for 75k. My sonata's are +0, and I don't have noblesse. I am not available for buffing most of the time, as I find it boring and tedious. But, when I am, you'll see me shouting :)
I do say no to beggars, all the time. Nobody begged me to sell buffs at 75k, I did that all by myself :)
What I really enjoy are the hateful PMs from other buffers:
"DONT SELL YOUR BUFFS THAT CHEAP DURING THE DAY YOU ****ING NOOB"
"Raise your price, you're ruining the market"
"IF YOU KEEP SELLING BUFFS AT THAT PRICE, I WILL HAVE MY WHOLE CLAN KoS YOU"
"your stupit for seeling buffs that cheep" (I had to keep the spelling atrocities in there, that's EXACTLY how the message came to me.. "your stupit", "seeling", "cheep"...................... .................really? "YOU'RE" too "STUPID" to spell the words "you're", "stupid", "selling", and "cheap" (all third grade or below words), But *I* am the stupid one????? ROFL)
To all of you haters:
I laugh every time I get one of these PMs from you whining about my low prices....
...Oh, and I usually end up getting your customers, too.
Remember, guys, get your buffs from Daede when you see him advertising: Always 75k, and every 4th buff is free :)
...oh, and i usually end up getting your customers, too.qft!
lower the iss price standard and watch the server population flourish!!! ppl will lvl better and we will have a more even population lvl wise imo plus countless other benefits we wld see from a simple 25k change for 30minutes wort of gr8 buffs, its like ****** jenna jameson for 100k but wldnt u rather **** tera patrick for 75k and get 4 nut busts for the price of 3 from jenna?
THINK OF THE POOR FAT LIL N00BS!!!
...change for 30minutes wort of gr8 buffs, its like ****** jenna jameson for 100k but wldnt u rather **** tera patrick for 75k and get 4 nut busts for the price of 3 from jenna?
Also, remember, I give everybody every 4th buff free.. So it actually works out to 56,250 adena/buff if you keep coming back :). That's like 7 Taras to 4 Jennas... ;)
Someone charging much cheaper then everyone else runs out of mana a lot sooner then someone charging more, so when they are out of mana and waiting for their mp back, then the dude charging more makes back the money he might have lost when the dude did have mana.
It's called supply and demand.
In the end I have no hate towards paying high for buffs, they are helpful and it is true their mana is worth more then less. If I'm doing something I don't think I'm going to make the money back then I just don't get the buffs, but 9 times out of 10 I ofc make back far more then what I paid for as well as my time isn't wasted half as long without.
Someone charging much cheaper then everyone else runs out of mana a lot sooner then someone charging more, so when they are out of mana and waiting for their mp back, then the dude charging more makes back the money he might have lost when the dude did have mana.
It's called supply and demand.
^^ Every word of this ^^
...and it is true their mana is worth more then less...
LOL, dude, it's MANA. They're not paying for it to recharge, it does that all by itself. In the amount of time it takes a buffer to get a full party together to buff, he's made back the mana necessary to buff that party. If he's SERIOUS about selling buffs, he's wearing robes, using a +casting speed weapon with a +MP Regen SA/augment and has +MEN symbols, so he is getting his mana back even faster than that. I seriously LOL'd at "my mana is worth more than that" but decided not to comment on it.. Needless to say, I changed my mind.
If you wanna overpay for buffs, man, feel free :) That's what an open market means. As I already stated, I don't sell my buffs often. But, I have to say the last 100 or so times I've been in Aden, I've seen a *lot* of buffers in the 60k (YES, there are buffers cheaper than me REGULARLY buffing) - 80k range...
In 30 minutes u can earn more than 100k; with the Path to awakening items u just have to buy or create BSS and SS, so adena its not big problem until 76.
However, if it is too expensive for u go to lvl with Adventurer's guide buffs then...
In 30 minutes u can earn more than 100k; with the Path to awakening items u just have to buy or create BSS and SS, so adena its not big problem until 76.
However, if it is too expensive for u go to lvl with Adventurer's guide buffs then...
^^ all of this ^^
(except, it's worth mentioning that you don't *need* bss to buff, and if you *really* feel the need, the No-grade for-show dual swords they give you when you awaken work just perfectly with No-grade Blessed Spiritshot, which are <30a each)
Oh, and... ...Don't forget "OR, you could always join a clan that has an Iss buffer"
i usually buff for free whenever i'm not busy, and paying attention.
i don't believe that asking for adena for buffs is a bad thing...
i'm just not one to charge people for any services.
just be happy, and pay...
or be lucky and don't.
or... settle for self buffs.
the fact that you're crying on forums about prices being too high?
that just means you need to reroll buffer so you can get all the free buffs you'll ever want.
Omg.. You were the lazy ones who prefered not to raise up an alt-char (buffer), and you shout for those who did, and now they sell their buffs for 100k, (instead of 75k that u demand? omfg!)..
Really, you can't be serious..
Here is the solution, don't waste your precious adena, and go make your own ISS.. Its a matter of 1-3 weeks (depends on your farming hours).. Am I wrong?
Omg.. You were the lazy ones who prefered not to raise up an alt-char (buffer), and you shout for those who did, and now their buffs for 100k, (instead of 75k that u demand? omfg!)..
Really, you can't be serious..
Here is the solution, don't waste your precious adena, and go make your own ISS.. Its a matter of 1-3 weeks (depends on your farming hours).. Am I wrong?
im didnt even make this post on my behalf i can pay the 100k and make i back duh most if not all players can but theres a principle here some ppl have other obligations in game or MAYBE enjoy the class they srare playing and focus on it to better themselves at. Even tho like i said i wasnt in mind but i am the example , doing the math, a clan leader not to mention a NEW clan leader, and a devoted tank no matter what race since prelude.
im not saying you dont make a point but whats 25k between L2 players LOL it wld help L2 players save 100k on a 2hr avg which turn into them buying more ISS buffs, just sayin :p
im didnt even make this post on my behalf i can pay the 100k and make i back duh most if not all players can but theres a principle here some ppl have other obligations in game or MAYBE enjoy the class they srare playing and focus on it to better themselves at. Even tho like i said i wasnt in mind but i am the example , doing the math, a clan leader not to mention a NEW clan leader, and a devoted tank no matter what race since prelude.
im not saying you dont make a point but whats 25k between L2 players LOL it wld help L2 players save 100k on a 2hr avg which turn into them buying more ISS buffs, just sayin :p
Okay, this game has never been about helping the random person, it's always been about helping yourself and your team.
Do you really think these ppl care about the random person ? This game is based on making harder for the next dude, this game is based on being better off then the next joe you don't know.
It doesn't benefit me if you become rich or powerful because I give my buffs away free or 25k cheaper, and just like you said whats 25k between L2 players, goes the same way, whats an extra 25k ( fake money in a game) between L2 gamers?
You talk as if this whole community is a family, when in fact that's far from the truth. If this game was based on being a happy family with everyone helping his fellow elf get a lvl higher then there wouldn't be pvp/pk or even money involved.
This isn't a utopia this game was built on making the smaller man stay down.
Sorry to say but these are the facts, I'm not trying to start an argument with you, I'm just pointing out why this thread will never be taken seriously by the rest of the community.
This argument about how much or how little to charge for buffs is silly. Sounds like a bunch of people are racing to the bottom of the heap in terms of earning power and arguing about who's getting there first.
So is my box ISS Hellesbell now KOS to everyone on this thread because she gives buffs for free?
Server: Chronos
Toon: Hellesbell
Service: Iss Buffs
Charge: 0 Adena
Ahh Ultimate, you spend your friday night sitting in Aden town shouting and handing out free buffs all night long ?
If so >.< all I gatta say is WOW....
I also hand out free buffs, but I don't sit in town spending my free time helping out "the lil guy" I tend to have more things to do with my time either ig or out of it.
If I'm out lvling and someone is near by and not messing with me/ksin etc. then I tend to hand them over buffs that will benefit them.
No one said here that handing out buffs for free is a bad thing or shouldn't be done, but they are saying they feel their time is worth more then what some might wish to pay for.
Ahh Ultimate, you spend your friday night sitting in Aden town shouting and handing out free buffs all night long ?
If so >.< all I gatta say is WOW....
Nice troll. Either that or English isn't your primary language. If it were you would infer from the first 2 sentences in my post that I believe hanging out in town and handing out buffs, for free, or for adena, is a waste of time. I do hand them out for free to any who cross my path and ask. If you can't figure out a better way to earn than charging for buffs you've already L2lost. It's time for something extremely warm and fluffy...
I do hand them out for free to any who cross my path and ask.
Just have to say, bless your heart kind sir! :)
I've come across a few very nice players that give random free ISS buffs too, and it really makes my ingame day. I offer to give them 100k too sometimes in return for their kindness, but I'm always refused. I'm glad there are still some players around like that, and although rare, it makes it all the more special. :3 So thank-you!
I laugh at the fact that people are buying buffs from Enchanters in a free game that is ezmode to level 1-85 when they can just box their own in a minimized window and buff themselves every 30 minutes (cause if you're buying buffs you aren't getting sonata refreshes, I'm pretty sure).
Even a level 78/79 OL or WC would be a better option, IMO.
You don't need such Uber Buffs to solo decently in this game, and your adena can be used for equipment upgrades.
Okay, this game has never been about helping the random person, it's always been about helping yourself and your team.
Do you really think these ppl care about the random person ? This game is based on making harder for the next dude, this game is based on being better off then the next joe you don't know.
It doesn't benefit me if you become rich or powerful because I give my buffs away free or 25k cheaper, and just like you said whats 25k between L2 players, goes the same way, whats an extra 25k ( fake money in a game) between L2 gamers?
You talk as if this whole community is a family, when in fact that's far from the truth. If this game was based on being a happy family with everyone helping his fellow elf get a lvl higher then there wouldn't be pvp/pk or even money involved.
This isn't a utopia this game was built on making the smaller man stay down.
Sorry to say but these are the facts, I'm not trying to start an argument with you, I'm just pointing out why this thread will never be taken seriously by the rest of the community.you make a solid point i was just asking because i saw the benefit on both sides but i gitta say touche my friend touche
i goto Aden and find ISS buffs for 50k regularly.
they always get my business and added to my F lists.
i dont think i've paid over 50k in a while.
U MAD BROs?
Hello Me, I set my prices according to zones, I think everyone on aden little to offer buffs to 100k, while the village of Gludio charge of 50K to 75K is preferable.
By mouth against those who have to scoop up the adena on the ground that pex as balls, those are the ones who plaingne here.
I buff is sometimes free, when that person come to me, I receive a thank you and that 's good and makes me happy.
What to think of profits, made it fun and you will return.
Sell too expensive you will not see anyone, sell low you break the walk and will penalize iss.
So set your prices according to zones and do not think you even has.
Hello Me, I set my prices according to zones, I think everyone on aden little to offer buffs to 100k, while the village of Gludio charge of 50K to 75K is preferable.
By mouth against those who have to scoop up the adena on the ground that pex as balls, those are the ones who plaingne here.
I buff is sometimes free, when that person come to me, I receive a thank you and that 's good and makes me happy.
What to think of profits, made it fun and you will return.
Sell too expensive you will not see anyone, sell low you break the walk and will penalize iss.
So set your prices according to zones and do not think you even has.
Good day and good play friends / girlfriends.
i like this, mainly because your English tickled me pink BUT i could understand everything you said and for the most part agreed with it.
KuDoS to you girlfriend ;)
i like this, mainly because your english tickled me pink but i could understand everything you said and for the most part agreed with it.
Kudos to you girlfriend ;)
i was charged 75k one day and i felt it to b much more reasonable and easier for everyone. Buffer gets more business from ppl who couldnt spend 100k before on buffs and if u do the math300k is a great 2hrs of grinding!!!!
Say no to 100k buffs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
100k f you!!!!! 75k will do!!!!!!!!!
make their own iss enchanter and do not cry :p
i was charged 75k one day and i felt it to b much more reasonable and easier for everyone. Buffer gets more business from ppl who couldnt spend 100k before on buffs and if u do the math300k is a great 2hrs of grinding!!!!
Say no to 100k buffs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
100k f you!!!!! 75k will do!!!!!!!!!
If u think the price is high, go and make one iss enchanter; its easy and worthless right?
When u got iss buffs u got more lvl, more adena, more items; everything is faster.I dont understand how you can mourn for this..200k overpricing, but only 100k? Youre pretty crazy.
This argument about how much or how little to charge for buffs is silly. Sounds like a bunch of people are racing to the bottom of the heap in terms of earning power and arguing about who's getting there first.
So is my box ISS Hellesbell now KOS to everyone on this thread because she gives buffs for free?
Server: Chronos
Toon: Hellesbell
Service: Iss Buffs
Charge: 0 Adena
I respect players like this,
I'm not saying that because I personally want free buffs from this person, we're not even on the same server. I dont bother going out looking for buffs either, I depend on my self so I just make my self a buffer or make someone i know play a buffer role
But its players like this that makes the fantasy world of mmo much more appreciated, reminds me of old school players from back in the days when L2 first launched
if chrono's wasnt so ***ed i'd go there just to meet more people like this
if she/he likes to buff for free all day sitting in town with a 2nd pc or main, thats their choice, You'd be surprised that some people have fun with their characters doing what they're meant to do
I remember back in Kain, there were a bunch of people running around randomly mana healing crafters just to be friendly and helpful
or nukers would randomly help heal as they ran by if they saw that a stranger might have needed healing
what's wrong with free help, i dont see anything bad about a player like this
On Chronos I give for free and often target areas where several Iss Enchanters are trying to sell buffs, and Have Macros to shout. I sometimes buff about 100 random people per hour for free, and if I'm really bored or doing some work then I'm there for hours on a second PC.
80% of the time they all shut down their shops :)
Sometimes people offer to donate and I simply tell them I don't accept adena for buffs. Could probably use the Adena, I'm far from rich. But it's just something I don't do. Buffs don't even use Reagents anymore, like some of the old buffs. It costs nothing to buff someone so why should they have to pay?
On Chronos I give for free and often target areas where several Iss Enchanters are trying to sell buffs, and Have Macros to shout. I sometimes buff about 100 random people per hour for free, and if I'm really bored or doing some work then I'm there for hours on a second PC.
80% of the time they all shut down their shops :)
Sometimes people offer to donate and I simply tell them I don't accept adena for buffs. Could probably use the Adena, I'm far from rich. But it's just something I don't do. Buffs don't even use Reagents anymore, like some of the old buffs. It costs nothing to buff someone so why should they have to pay?
/shrugs/
lol let me know when you come over towards bartz, I'm not rich either and just started but hell, I need more old school hardcore players like you as friends !
who knows, maybe i can help
:edit:
nevermind lol just realized this is in the bartz category /face palm
pm me anyways !
I dont know where all these numbers are coming from because when Im in Aden and Im looking for a buff, I spend 20min haggling and never pay higher than 50k. Many of the times I get ISS for free too. I really think there should be a ISS clan to regulate and finally take control of this market.
it is called greed, pure and simple. Same type of greed you see from folks who want to get paid to be mentors. Anyway, if these greedy ******** find fools to pay for buffs or mentoring, more power to them... Just get a clan, make friends and they will buff you for free. It appears to me that GoD has brought in this game the worst of what players had to offer. Not even talking about R grade PKers who spend their time in B or A grade area killing who ever is in sight. A few years ago this game was great. I am not so sure anymore:rolleyes: