Dark elf keeping dances ninja patched?

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Get onto my ISS and I see that now you can't take knights, and put up the two rhythms :(. Oh well good while it lasted lol. Same as healers keeping light I guess haha.
Can anyone else confirm? Am I bugged, or they really did patch it?
Yea it's patched. I asked them about this a month ago and they told me there was no news of a fix. Rerolled because It was necessary in Oly to compete with those that kept them, now I find this ninja patch. I feel ****** that they couldn't have informed me when I asked. I'm not upset they patched it, just that they sat on the info even when ppl asked. Think it's time to cash out and play something else.
yah I did the same :s. Could place top 10 as an Orc ISS but I felt top 3 was going to be rough... So I started on a Dark Elf haha... oh well.
Anything that gives u an advantage will get "fixed" at some point, thats the rule in L2
Yeah, NCsoft actually being Johnny-on-the-spot about these keeping 3rd class skill problems. I figured it'd be so long rolling another 9x enchanter would be by far worth waiting for them to fix it.
No more mages with knights + rythms... OUPS.
I think it is that someone keeps the rhythms are just his choice. If rhythms replace Wizard Harmony, why u can't use them with Warrior or Knight harmony?? because what? Previously, you had a choice. Or u take Wizard harmony and u have less m def and cd, but some more m attack, and no1 shout to u about "GIVE ME WIZARD" "ISS? U RE SOME ******? GIVE ME WIZARD!". Or u don't take and have better chance on pvp or pve.

There was no information about changes.
NCSOFT force us to buy Wizard harmony... ;(
Everyone should be forced to take new awakening skills
NC just fixed a bug, like they did with light mastery on healers. However, i agree, that they shoud've posted info prior to the fix, like they've done it with light mastery
They mist likely didnt know..
This is obvious they didnt know.

I just feel pity for ppl who rerolled to bd/sws ISS...
They mist likely didnt know..

this!

;)
Everyone should be forced to take new awakening skills


OMG My char is my char? if u don't want u can stay with skill from first prof..
That is easy. why some1 talk me how to play with char what i take?
Nctrololololol :')
OMG My char is my char? if u don't want u can stay with skill from first prof..
That is easy. why some1 talk me how to play with char what i take?

No, NCsoft own ur char and can do whatever they want with it
No, NCsoft own ur char and can do whatever they want with it

They spend time to lvl up or me?
They spend time to lvl up or me?

they still own ur char
your account and everything, what it contains, be it a lvl 1 or 99 toon with bllions of adena, is the proporty of NCSoft - you've agreed to it by creating an account
its just a service that you were paying in the past, you didnt pay to own a character
They spend time to lvl up or me?

Are you dumb?

NC owns every pixel you have. If they delete your char, sell your char, make your char lvl 1, they can. And you can't do anything about it. Everything ingame is righteously owned by NC, not the costumer, we are just allowed to make use of it.
Been saying that this would happen for a while, got called a troll, stupid and worse, and yet, slowly but surely they are closing the holes and forcing everyone Awakened to take all the Awakened skills, like they should have from the get go.
Been saying that this would happen for a while, got called a troll, stupid and worse, and yet, slowly but surely they are closing the holes and forcing everyone Awakened to take all the Awakened skills, like they should have from the get go.

Na, what you were saying was that 4th class skills were always better, and people clearly proved you wrong with screen shots. This isn't about forcing 4th class skills, I don't take issue with that, it's about them saying nothing was planned and then dropping this on us out of the blue.

Are you dumb?

NC owns every pixel you have. If they delete your char, sell your char, make your char lvl 1, they can. And you can't do anything about it. Everything ingame is righteously owned by NC, not the costumer, we are just allowed to make use of it.

It's called a contract of adhesion, and just because they write it doesn't mean it holds up in a dispute. For the most part they get wide latitude, but I'm willing to bet that as more companies move to the cash shop format they will have some of that latitude restricted. Not that they won't be able to alter the game mechanics, but I do think that eventually someone will challenge them based upon some action involving their NCCoin (or some other company's equivalent).
all mobs went dark elfs thinking they are hot .... but elfs can still use warding lol. i think its time to reroll again guys then another ninja patch will come lol
So you can sue songs, but you cant use rythms?
all mobs went dark elfs thinking they are hot .... but elfs can still use warding lol. i think its time to reroll again guys then another ninja patch will come lol
Laughing by butt off...

So true.

Epic reroll of Swordsingers incoming!
BD sub to SWS sub to dual class = 2 subclass certificates.

Worth it?

I dunno, but I dont think you can delete them, so might as well use em right?
BD sub to SWS sub to dual class = 2 subclass certificates.
Since when a BD can sub SWS or the other way around?
he probably wanted to say his bd sub change to sws sub since he mentioned certificates... and you understood it wrong :)
BD sub to SWS sub to dual class = 2 subclass certificates.

Worth it?

I dunno, but I dont think you can delete them, so might as well use em right?
That won't work, cause you can't use 1 class change certificate to go from BD to SWS. You'd have to switch to something that isn't a dancer first before you can go to SWS, and that requires two certs.

If you have two then of course you can waste one to make such a change, but I'm not sure I'd do that just for Warding. They will undoubtedly get to it sooner or later.

Rather save those to level up WC subs and class change them to whatever I want once it gets to high level, especially if you plan on dual classing something.
First people QQ because NCSoft didn't fix them.
Now they QQ because NCSoft fixed them.
They also QQ and suggest emo rage quit because they rerolled and failed when the patch came.
So I guess this thread is about QQing.

I QQ because you QQ too much constantly about anything you can QQ about.

And if you dont have something to QQ about, I'm sure you will come up with something.

QQ
Na, what you were saying was that 4th class skills were always better, and people clearly proved you wrong with screen shots. This isn't about forcing 4th class skills, I don't take issue with that, it's about them saying nothing was planned and then dropping this on us out of the blue.



It's called a contract of adhesion, and just because they write it doesn't mean it holds up in a dispute. For the most part they get wide latitude, but I'm willing to bet that as more companies move to the cash shop format they will have some of that latitude restricted. Not that they won't be able to alter the game mechanics, but I do think that eventually someone will challenge them based upon some action involving their NCCoin (or some other company's equivalent).

All you did was show that MAYBE a lvl1 skill was better than an old skill, nothing more, as usual baddies forget that the new skills get skill ups every so many levels and that OVER TIME the Awakened skill will be better, and you and I both know that
BD sub to SWS sub to dual class = 2 subclass certificates.

Worth it?

I dunno, but I dont think you can delete them, so might as well use em right?

Since when a BD can sub SWS or the other way around?

They cant. Or rather, they can do it as much as you can read my post...

That won't work, cause you can't use 1 class change certificate to go from BD to SWS. You'd have to switch to something that isn't a dancer first before you can go to SWS, and that requires two certs.

If you have two then of course you can waste one to make such a change, but I'm not sure I'd do that just for Warding. They will undoubtedly get to it sooner or later.

Rather save those to level up WC subs and class change them to whatever I want once it gets to high level, especially if you plan on dual classing something.

Try reading next time. I never said I used 1 certificate.

In fact, I said I used 2.

If ppl could just bother reading sometimes...

And if not for a dual class, what excactly should I use the certificates on?

Toon is tank main, had BD sub.

1st certificate changed bd to moonlight sentinel.
2nd certificate changed moonlight sentinel to sws.

2 certificates used, and then dual classed.

It was all there in the first post. No need to theorize, it's already done...
All you did was show that MAYBE a lvl1 skill was better than an old skill, nothing more, as usual baddies forget that the new skills get skill ups every so many levels and that OVER TIME the Awakened skill will be better, and you and I both know that

Hey ******, harmonies have only 1 lvl. So go run that through that hole between your ears.


First people QQ because NCSoft didn't fix them.
Now they QQ because NCSoft fixed them.
They also QQ and suggest emo rage quit because they rerolled and failed when the patch came.
So I guess this thread is about QQing.

I QQ because you QQ too much constantly about anything you can QQ about.

And if you dont have something to QQ about, I'm sure you will come up with something.

QQ

Oh look, a freebie has something to say. I did think about cashing out, not because I want an OP skill, but because I felt really screwed by the utter lack of communication. On the bright side, if/when I do cash out it will gain me several thousand dollars, how about your toon? Another 100 buck freebie wonder? Go back to playing with the other scrubs, I'll let you know if your input is needed again here.
Oh look, a freebie has something to say. I did think about cashing out, not because I want an OP skill, but because I felt really screwed by the utter lack of communication. On the bright side, if/when I do cash out it will gain me several thousand dollars, how about your toon? Another 100 buck freebie wonder? Go back to playing with the other scrubs, I'll let you know if your input is needed again here.

oh hey, ppl already started admitting they intend to sell their gear/char for $$$ on official boards. UpwndUrself
oh hey, ppl already started admitting they intend to sell their gear/char for $$$ on official boards. UpwndUrself

I said if/when, which is not did/intend. If I had I wouldn't be here talking about it, but thx for your input.
I said if/when, which is not did/intend. If I had I wouldn't be here talking about it, but thx for your input.
Actually u already sold ur previous toon, do I need to provide some screens ?
Oh look, a freebie has something to say. I did think about cashing out, not because I want an OP skill, but because I felt really screwed by the utter lack of communication. On the bright side, if/when I do cash out it will gain me several thousand dollars, how about your toon? Another 100 buck freebie wonder? Go back to playing with the other scrubs, I'll let you know if your input is needed again here.

mhm who the **** cares and I didn't know this game is about cashing out your toon, haha you're a joke. Guess I'm missing the point here or am I not? You're just a butthurt kid who fails to see the game as it is.

PS; Calls me a freebie yet you take full advantage of the "truly free" material available yourself too with brand new forum accounts or w/e else to not expose your pretty ***. God knows how many toons you have sold in past.


I said if/when, which is not did/intend. If I had I wouldn't be here talking about it, but thx for your input.

Yes, you pretty much confirm it that you will cash out and you already seem to know prices. Are you one of those RMT site visitors that post "wts fail iss without rhythms just harmonys" LMFAO

Such a failure.
Actually u already sold ur previous toon, do I need to provide some screens ?

He's just butthurt because he can't sell another iss with rhythms and harmonys to someone who may have wanted it so he comes here QQing about it as if it would make him feel any better.
Ok, so someone levelling a new BD should get all awakened skills or not? Please :)
So after the light armor mastery another pre-awakened skill got "fixed" for awakened chars. I do wonder why they do not simply take all your skills at 85, since
- most 3rd class skills are clearly inferior to 4th class skills anyway
- and those that aren't inferior get fixed as soon as enough people realize that and keep them

It makes no sense to give players a choice to keep the old skills, yet take away any advantage that the keeping of old skills might offer. There's a few more of these advantageous skills left, but I bet as soon as keeping them over the new ones becomes common they will get fixed, too. SWS songs will likely be next after enough people reroll their now useless BD-ISS to SWS-ISS.
So again, why even bother giving your playerbase a choice (that they can't revert should they find the new skills worse than the old ones) and then force them to abandon that choice, instead of simply having everyone start fresh at 85?