Bug with stormscreamers??

Bartz Started Last reply 24 posts
why am I doing exactly THE SAME damage when using:
1) a simple hurricane
2) seed of wind on me , surrender to wind to the enemy , wind vortex to the enemy and then hurricane??

wtf is going on?

has anyone else noticed the same **** ??

with seed of wind + surrender + vortex + hurricane the damage should be at least twice,but it remains the same...

any1 help me...
thanks
Mobs have restists.

You dont break the element resist, you dont do more dmg.

This is the official server, stuff wont be bugged and broken as much as on other servers.
what are u talking about?
don't you understand what am I telling?
I say that I do exactly the same damage with hurricane,even when the enemy has the "surrender to wind" and "wind vortex debuff" and I,myself,have the "Seed of wind" buff !!
don't u think I should do more damage when using hurricane along with all these from when I use hurricane itself??
Smittie is telling you that you probably are hunting mobs with WIND RESISTANCE. No matter how many debuffs you land on them, if you don't break their resist you won't do more damage.
Ok, so far 1/2 of ppl reading my post have not understood it.

Is Tiferet1 a genius?

Is roulisw a moron?

Stay tuned, maybe we will find out tomorrow.
oh really??
am I a moron???
WHAT DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND THAT TO E V E R Y MOB I HIT HAPPENS THE SAME???
EVERY MOB!!!
do all mobs have wind resist??
I don't think so...
do u want an example to make my statement more accurate?
ok!then I will give you an example...

do mobs in primeral island have wind resistance??
NO !! they are just "beasts" with no resistances.
and last time I checked it, was in pi !!

another example?
ok!!then let me give you another example...
mobs which look like an "eye" (there are many mobs like that in different lvls too) have WIND WEAKNESS POINT.
so...why do I do the same damage when using hurricane and when using death spike??

so?do u have an answer for me now??
or am I still a moron???think again.....

p.s. even in mobs with wind resistance shouldn't I do more damage when I have seed of wind????seed of wind increases MY wind attribute,it doesn't reduces mobs' wind attribute...
Stop raging.

Yes, all mobs have wind resist. When mobs are weak to wind they still have some wind resist.

Unless you break the wind resist, you aint gonna do more dmg.

Is your weapon even elemented?

Stop raging and research this, you are clearly clueless when it comes to element.
Ok, let's set an example. (Don't mind the numbers, they're a bit off, it's just for the sake of explaining)

Mob A has 100 wind resistance.
You have unattributed weapon, and with Seed of Wind on you reach +10 Wind attribute.
Now with Surrender to Wind you reduce the wind defense of Mob A by 10 points, resulting in 90 points of wind resistance. Adding Vortex (-20 points) would put the wind resistance to 70 points.
70 is always more than 10 points of your Wind attribute.


I hope I didn't say complete crap, since I'm very bad with numbers and elemental system... Otherwise I'll shut up :X
Seems good on the math part.

Basically the OP cant break the element resist to get dmg increase, but he thinks if he screams loud enough on the forums someone will "fix his problem".
seed of wind = +20 wind attribute
surrender to wind = -20 wind attribute
vortex = -20 wind attribute
that's a total 60 wind attirbute difference.
don't u think I should do more damage??
1)what should I do to do more damage with all these to mobs?
2)so to players I do definetely more damage with all these if they,for example, have 30 wind resistance,they go -10 and me +20,so I do more damage,right??

and sorry if I "attacked" you,but you implied that I am a moron.......

do u know what my problem is?
in L2 before Goddess of destruction I ALWAYS did MORE damage when using a simple surrender...
but now there have been made dramatic changes in the game and that's why I am asking "why am I doing the same damage etc...?"

so what do u suggest me to do?
Put 300 Wind attribute on your weapon.

Every new update they change how the attribute system works...
hmm...I think I am gonna wait to be awakened and then I 'll see what I'm gonna do with this.
thanks for help anyway...
Go try to learn something about elemental system and stop QQing

If you think you should double the damage with 60 element what should it be when you have 300?

perhaps there is nothing wrong with the world... just with you :)
You need to break it by atleast 70 or so to see dmg diff I think.

Even lower mobs have like 100+ resist.
For higher level locations, you should definetely make a 300 element on weapon to see a small difference.
Death Spike is better imo. Don't see why youre complaining.
Maybe its me but perhaps people are over thinking this, Ive attacked TONS of monsters using this tactic and seeing no results. Seed of wind makes no actual difference when I'm attacking a mob with or without the resistance to wind. Ive seen a difference only in a pvp type environment tho.
Check my maths and Smittie's posts, you'll eventually find out why. :rolleyes:
That's why I stated with and without the resistant to wind.. eh.
Stop raging.

Yes, all mobs have wind resist. When mobs are weak to wind they still have some wind resist.

Unless you break the wind resist, you aint gonna do more dmg.

Is your weapon even elemented?

Stop raging and research this, you are clearly clueless when it comes to element.
Bolded for better understanding.
And I thought I was clear up there. I wish ppl read the entire thread before commenting lol.

Ty for bump Tif1
My pleasure ;)
If you think you made a point +1 for you.
If you think you made a point +1 for you.

Yes, there was a point. But it seems to have flown over your head.

Oh well, maybe next time?