Yo This is to every fame leecher on every server . You want fame and you come and die in front of the castle so theres like 400-500+- corpses laying around == go to rune and you cry about LAG . So you and only YOU causing same lag for clans that want to siege a castle so:
GO die behind castle , left or right side where clans that want to attack /defend wont even see any of dead corpse . I do not joke ! Now question is if you want or you dont want to help to make this game playable this is up for you . And I know that at least 1 person in every clan/clans reads this board and can sent this message further !
Just to tell, how can a fame farmer die behind the castle if he gets ganked by the defending clans even before getting near enough?
get there 5-10 minutes before siege start ? o,O Really it is so **** hard to think ?
and you can correct me if I`m wrong here :)
most of players has problems with moving in aden where are 300-400 SHOPS
while on siege/tw on ground lay dead 500-600 players so you got like 30s that I am wrong at point you interrupt gameplay for players that want to SIEGE not to leech fame ! start after ----
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ONLY if you stay too close of castle gates /walls omfg
Nope. If you re in siege area when siege starts you ll be teleported. Siege area starts far away from gates/walls. Anyway i always try to stay away from main area of siege and usually it works :p
Nope. If you re in siege area when siege starts you ll be teleported. Siege area starts far away from gates/walls. Anyway i always try to stay away from main area of siege and usually it works :p
Seriously ... what? What gave you this strange idea? It never worked like that. You'll get ported out if you're inside the castle or too near the wall at siege start (or anytime the castle changes hands) when you're not the current defenders, but not and never when you're just being elsewhere on siege field.
Well m8 at shillen when i first tried that i got teleported (i mean i enter siege area before siege starts). I was in siege area but far away from walls or gate :D
Nope. If you re in siege area when siege starts you ll be teleported. Siege area starts far away from gates/walls. Anyway i always try to stay away from main area of siege and usually it works :p
on official you get ported out ONLY if you are 2 close to walls !
Sieges are already lagged with or without dead bodies laying around:D
really then tell me siege zone I cant move at all and while my clan encounter same ppl not in siege zone where are 400-500 corpses no one lags is it explainable?
I'm collecting fame in front of the castles. What if I want to record something?
are you retarted or something?
really then tell me siege zone I cant move at all and while my clan encounter same ppl not in siege zone where are 400-500 corpses no one lags is it explainable?
Now i don't understand...you're saying, 400-500 corpses outside of siege zone do NOT lag you while inside siege zone they LAG you?
I'm not sure what makes me more confused, the fact the siege zone itself afects your frame rate or the fact you don't have lag with 500 people on your screen while i lag like nuts and run every other game in the world smoothly :D
I wanna believe this is the cause..but so far i never seen a source about this cause :s it
You will never see an official source because that would mean that NC might have to admit that the game is largely flawed now due to 3rd Party Software.
Now i don't understand...you're saying, 400-500 corpses outside of siege zone do NOT lag you while inside siege zone they LAG you?
I'm not sure what makes me more confused, the fact the siege zone itself afects your frame rate or the fact you don't have lag with 500 people on your screen while i lag like nuts and run every other game in the world smoothly :D
I said that attackers vs defenderrs outside of siege zone ( WHERE IN SIEGE ZONE are corpses ) no one lags while in siege zone freeze :> im far from center of corpses lag is lesser .
Unless I'm able to leech in an out of reach spot, I tend to go on the side, but I dont like it. Some moron from the pvping clans will always run out and try to fear ppl off field.
If ppl werent such *****, you could have less of your lag :(
Yo This is to every fame leecher on every server . You want fame and you come and die in front of the castle so theres like 400-500+- corpses laying around == go to rune and you cry about LAG . So you and only YOU causing same lag for clans that want to siege a castle so:
GO die behind castle , left or right side where clans that want to attack /defend wont even see any of dead corpse . I do not joke ! Now question is if you want or you dont want to help to make this game playable this is up for you . And I know that at least 1 person in every clan/clans reads this board and can sent this message further !
YO! THIS is ANGRY ANT!! and I AM ANGRY!! YO! Check this out!! There will be LESS LAG if the CHEEEEEETERZ stop using CHEEEEETERZ programs. Don't HATE THE FAME FARMERS, YO DAWG! HATE THE SYSTEM, YO! Check it. PEOPLE WANT TO BE faboooolus FAMOUS and they can't DO IT, YO, without Littering THE CASTLES with their, YO MTV RAPS, dead CARCARCASSESZ, YO. SO YO! Give a YO HOOT!! They will POOOLOOOOT!!
YO! THIS is ANGRY ANT!! and I AM ANGRY!! YO! Check this out!! There will be LESS LAG if the CHEEEEEETERZ stop using CHEEEEETERZ programs. Don't HATE THE FAME FARMERS, YO DAWG! HATE THE SYSTEM, YO! Check it. PEOPLE WANT TO BE faboooolus FAMOUS and they can't DO IT, YO, without Littering THE CASTLES with their, YO MTV RAPS, dead CARCARCASSESZ, YO. SO YO! Give a YO HOOT!! They will POOOLOOOOT!!
ANT OUT,.... YO!
This is one of the 9 posts you made since 2006. Epic.
This is one of the 9 posts you made since 2006. Epic.
Check it OUT!! BOTTERz suck, LAG SUCKz, but in all fairness. LIFE JUST SUCKz, we just have to DEALz withz it or QUITz da GAMEz, yo. STREETz don't let go.... STREETZ!!
Fame farming is not the players fault, its the rediculas fame system at fault.
Players need fame to get items from trade NPCs.
This creates a server-wide need to farm fame. Go figure.
broadcasting tower for -_- like you and what action you want to see if dead bodies casuing everything to -_-ing FREEZE
Just for your crappy attitude I feel like downloading L2 again and logging all my 3 accounts for any sieges you are signed up for and put them right on the bridge with a title MOAR LAG
Fame Leecher = Legit player who can't select any other player due to lag.
and players who siege are ebayers cheaters and unlegits :D good one :>
Fame farming is not the players fault, its the rediculas fame system at fault.
Players need fame to get items from trade NPCs.
This creates a server-wide need to farm fame. Go figure.
Where i said to stop farm fame ?:D
id like to PvP, but the massive lags make it no fun at all, even with low settings its unplayable
Apparently thos that use 3rd party programs dont have this issue..
you have confirmed info about bold part ?
Just for your crappy attitude I feel like downloading L2 again and logging all my 3 accounts for any sieges you are signed up for and put them right on the bridge with a title MOAR LAG
do it , log even 50 show how big troll you are :D
This is very nice lineage 2 community / puke
Ah you want ncsoft to take action about bots and so on while "legit" players prefer to mess with other players game just to have big nose =)
that is good one :D
Yo This is to every fame leecher on every server . You want fame and you come and die in front of the castle so theres like 400-500+- corpses laying around == go to rune and you cry about LAG . So you and only YOU causing same lag for clans that want to siege a castle so:
GO die behind castle , left or right side where clans that want to attack /defend wont even see any of dead corpse . I do not joke ! Now question is if you want or you dont want to help to make this game playable this is up for you . And I know that at least 1 person in every clan/clans reads this board and can sent this message further !
That's a nice suggestion. Here's another. NCSoft can go ahead and optimize the game engine. That way it can run nice for everyone. Whenever players have to do anything for the game or the servers to run well, it's 100% the fault of the people who made the game. I never hear about this kind of **** in popular MMOs.
That's a nice suggestion. Here's another. NCSoft can go ahead and optimize the game engine. That way it can run nice for everyone. Whenever players have to do anything for the game or the servers to run well, it's 100% the fault of the people who made the game. I never hear about this kind of **** in popular MMOs.
You should check out Tera..
Tera max settings = 30/40 fps
Aion max settings = 30 fps (60 fps at high-med)
L2 low settings = 15/20 fps
:D
This game is just trash, no offence, I used to love L2 back in c4-il. From the moment the "action" starts you just freeze, meanwhile the 1000 ******s using zRanger lag aswell but let their bots do the targetting/attacking so by the time the lag is over you're dead and they're inside the castle. So much fun these sieges, NCSoft. Thanks.
Some ppl say it'S cheater...
Some ppl say it's fame farmer...
Some ppl say it'S Dev...
some ppl say it's NCsoft...
cheater- NCsoft already trying to get them out...
Fame farmer - They added fame so more ppl would come to siege not only staying dead here... so that can be a good point but not that many ppl...
The Dev - The Dev did a pretty good job 7-9 years ago, maybe more dunno how much time it took to make l2... but the curent DEV can't change the game engine... This is nearly impossible...
NCsoft - Siege and fame system work has intended... You don'T like it? you lag to much? you don'T have fun? if any of this is true... You are free to leave... You don't event have to take the door there is none...
I have never had lag issues when I am sieging with other neutral clans. Even when those clans include large scale zergs. I do get significant lag from the rush of program users zerging onto the field. You know who you are.
In the end: I will continue to die right in front of the castle gates cuz this gives me the most enjoyment out of my fame farming time. Especially at the first siege which is now too early for most average folks in the USA. And you will like it! Have a nice day.
Ah you want ncsoft to take action about bots and so on while "legit" players prefer to mess with other players game just to have big nose =)
that is good one :D
It's your scripts which makes lags, not **** dead bodies which with you do not have any interaction at all.
I think eventually everyone is going to either become a bot or a permared bot killer. Those will be the only two things you can do other than quit if NC doesn't get their **** together and do something.
I do find it a lil strange....fighting at sieges with and vs neutral clans I do get a lil lag here and there, but nothing that makes it up unplayable. But if 2 or 3 parties of one of the top clans shows up for some fun the siege turns into a slide show before they even get on the siege field. Then goes back to normal after they leave.
Not saying it's their programs that cause it, but it is a lil strange....
I do find it a lil strange....fighting at sieges with and vs neutral clans I do get a lil lag here and there, but nothing that makes it up unplayable. But if 2 or 3 parties of one of the top clans shows up for some fun the siege turns into a slide show before they even get on the siege field. Then goes back to normal after they leave.
Not saying it's their programs that cause it, but it is a lil strange....
Ah you know...their brain is probably so lagged, from so much game time and few sun, it manifests ingame!
I do find it a lil strange....fighting at sieges with and vs neutral clans I do get a lil lag here and there, but nothing that makes it up unplayable. But if 2 or 3 parties of one of the top clans shows up for some fun the siege turns into a slide show before they even get on the siege field. Then goes back to normal after they leave.
Not saying it's their programs that cause it, but it is a lil strange....
Record the siege, and make petition.
I have recorded the perfect example on Aden siege.
A thought is to test out battleping next siege for those that are lagging, even if you have FPS lag (non-network oriented lag).
I tested it at the last siege (mind you I was still farming fame, but I wasn't getting any lag from the combat, when I normally do), and it seems to have corrected it. Granted I already had a fairly decent latency at 70, but I'm guessing (from a logical view), it's stabilizing my ping so I don't get spikes (An added bonus is I'm down to a latency of 40ms).
It sincerely took me by surprise, as I really didn't expect it to be network related because the game is CPU bound (It doesn't offload to GPU efficiently given they've been more concerned about new content than performance tweaking) -- even though the largest improvement comes from getting an SSD (for loading).
Furthermore, even though the game supports multi-core, most of the logic is ran on one core -- networking/sound (to my knowledge) is offloaded to the additional cores, so it may make more since to have higher frequencies (Overclock if you can safely, even though I don't normally suggest overclocking).
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The lag has always been hit or miss though, it always seemed to be select clans / groups within a clan even with PvP off the siege field. But I really can't from a professional standpoint suggest that third-party program is causing lag for others unless they're directly overflowing your connection (Be it DoS or some other type of attack), which you would visibly recognize if you watch your network resources.
To my knowledge bots in this game are generally just glorified packet inspectors and don't actually manipulate any code/packets, but I could be wrong. So given that, I'm really confused because technically, I don't see it likely -- but I'm clearly experiencing lag only with specific groups of people.
The biggest thing, is I sincerely even after searching, have not found any evidence suggesting it is 3rd party programs -- even though instinctively I feel it is the case. **** confusing, lol.
The biggest thing, is I sincerely even after searching, have not found any evidence suggesting it is 3rd party programs -- even though instinctively I feel it is the case. **** confusing, lol.
That has been my thought for the most part. Granted my knowledge of the program they use is limited to just the name. But from what I hear it sounds more like a sniffer program than anything else.
I just find it strange that I can pvp vs large numbers of neutral and have very lil lag. Yet almost every time one of the top clans runs buy with just 2 parties (even outside of sieges) I know it before they are even in sight range due to the spike in lag. And as soon as they soe or run far enough away the lag is gone.
Anyways it doesn't matter too much to me anymore. I prefer the neutral pvp a lot more than trying to pvp vs the top clans. It seams to me that the pvp's last longer and without all the trash talking it's a lot more fun. :)
Pellegri, when you and your clan stop using 3rd party software then you can talk about how the game is meant to be played. Until then, on behalf of the entire legitimate L2 community: go f--- yourself.
Pellegri, when you and your clan stop using 3rd party software then you can talk about how the game is meant to be played. Until then, on behalf of the entire legitimate L2 community: go f--- yourself.
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Pellegri your whole group is scripted to guts, stop crying here, it's just pure hypocrisy.
Kinda feel bad for original poster. You actually think all the ppl dead on the ground cause the lag? How long have you been playing? FYI: the lag seems to show up when specific clans show up not the numbers dead. I've been on siege fields with alot dead and had no issues at all so your argument lacks merit. Maybe you should consider what some things that are used during sieges do for lag. One example was when NC started nailing clans that dumped alot of adena and stuff on the field during sieges.... hence why they made that a ban type offense and even stated it was a issue. Of course other ways to lag the field can be used.. such as using a summon like a wyvrn.. or using some other things that dishonest players use. Love the idea of ppl dying somewhere else.. as for me... now that u posted this without thought... plan on seeing more of my toons soaking fame at the front door.
Cheers
Will do the same.... normally I would exp during sieges oro do instances, now I will go with my 4 chars to siegfield where Pellegri and his bot team are fighting...will be mad fun.
Pellegri, when you and your clan stop using 3rd party software then you can talk about how the game is meant to be played. Until then, on behalf of the entire legitimate L2 community: go f--- yourself.
Clan name and server pls so I can go --- you :D
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Pellegri your whole group is scripted to guts, stop crying here, it's just pure hypocrisy.
Who might you be? :o or you are scared to reveal ig nick ?=/
And why you are so obsessed about me?
What NCsoft really needs to do is make it so if you're dead you don't earn any fame..or CRP...that way ppl can't stand on the field causing lag for others when they don't even play the game for 2hrs+.
I wish Ncsoft would also allow us to turn off visuals like Party heals...I'm pretty sure that would solve a ton of load issues!!! and correct some of the lag!
I know I see spikes of lag when ever I toss out a heal...and the chr loads when u got over 100 ppl in 1 area start to make lag a major problem!
What NCsoft really needs to do is make it so if you're dead you don't earn any fame..or CRP...that way ppl can't stand on the field causing lag for others when they don't even play the game for 2hrs+.
I wish Ncsoft would also allow us to turn off visuals like Party heals...I'm pretty sure that would solve a ton of load issues!!! and correct some of the lag!
I know I see spikes of lag when ever I toss out a heal...and the chr loads when u got over 100 ppl in 1 area start to make lag a major problem!
its not what nc needs to do but what "neutrals " " legits " need to do :)
1. pick castle that TOP SERVER CLANS arent attacking to FARM FAME since for that you sign ( l o l ) and not you pick all the time castle that top clans want to get lol wonder what for :)
I bet now ocean of tears will fall about 3rd party soft and so on since its so ******* relevant here . Anyway most of legits warriors are as legit as most unlegit players :) everyone breaking eula every day so QQ None of you want to make this server BETTER and you cry 24/7 to ncosft to demand them to make this server better 1rst of all START FROM YOURSELF ! ask what you can do for the peoples and not what peoples can do for you .
Over and out .
What NCsoft really needs to do is make it so if you're dead you don't earn any fame..or CRP...that way ppl can't stand on the field causing lag for others when they don't even play the game for 2hrs+.
I wish Ncsoft would also allow us to turn off visuals like Party heals...I'm pretty sure that would solve a ton of load issues!!! and correct some of the lag!
I know I see spikes of lag when ever I toss out a heal...and the chr loads when u got over 100 ppl in 1 area start to make lag a major problem!
upgrade pc................ if you expirience graphic lag your pc sux.
1. pick castle that TOP SERVER CLANS arent attacking to FARM FAME since for that you sign ( l o l ) and not you pick all the time castle that top clans want to get lol wonder what for :)
Currect me if im wrong, but the "neutrals" "legits" have one or maybe 2 castles they fight over, and for the most part stay their the hole siege fighting. Not wanting to butt their nose into the top clans scriped fights. But when the top scrip clans get bored they show up to wipe the fields at the neutrals sieges. So why can't the neutrals go to the top clans castles to farm fame?
tnx naia community to prove how retarted this community is :D
110 clans signed on aden .
Now let me tell you 1 thing : I fixed my lag problem and now you can go **** yourself because I wont tell how to fix it .
/dont care for infractions above is just pure truth about rotten players that will cry 24/7 about bots , cheats , lags while doing NOTHING to change anything
enough is enough!
tnx naia community to prove how retarted this community is :D
110 clans signed on aden .
Now let me tell you 1 thing : I fixed my lag problem and now you can go **** yourself because I wont tell how to fix it .
/dont care for infractions above is just pure truth about rotten players that will cry 24/7 about bots , cheats , lags while doing NOTHING to change anything
enough is enough!
Your suggestion is reasonable, but you are wrong person to ask this (unless you change party and clan :) ).
If those 101 clans signed to Aden, that means those who siege Aden have problem, but not those, who siege Gludio/Schuttgart/Innadril...
and you should know well, that saying that DH/SH/X/SL get zero sympathy on these boards is a big understatment.
I quess, if this suggestion was posted by someone from i.e Echo, responses could be different, but you got what you totally deserve :)
Yo This is to every fame leecher on every server . You want fame and you come and die in front of the castle so theres like 400-500+- corpses laying around == go to rune and you cry about LAG . So you and only YOU causing same lag for clans that want to siege a castle so:
GO die behind castle , left or right side where clans that want to attack /defend wont even see any of dead corpse . I do not joke ! Now question is if you want or you dont want to help to make this game playable this is up for you . And I know that at least 1 person in every clan/clans reads this board and can sent this message further !
Rage some more, And great job by the way. You thought 400-500 was bad, Wait till the next siege! Now that you came on here and went all nuts about it at the next siege there will be 4000-5000 dead on the ground! :eek:
Your suggestion is reasonable, but you are wrong person to ask this (unless you change party and clan :) ).
If those 101 clans signed to Aden, that means those who siege Aden have problem, but not those, who siege Gludio/Schuttgart/Innadril...
and you should know well, that saying that DH/SH/X/SL get zero sympathy on these boards is a big understatment.
I quess, if this suggestion was posted by someone from i.e Echo, responses could be different, but you got what you totally deserve :)
Dont care :D btw does any of those 110 clans have @@to send war?:D
and as I said I fixed lag problem bring as many twinks as you can trolls community =]