#1 complaint - Phophets are absolutely useless in this game.
They level so slow its painful when soloing.
Their buffs have become absolutely useless with ISS now available and MENTEE buffs and CLAN buffs and NEWBIE buffs.
WTF NCSOFT? Either give the Prophet class a workover or get rid of it.
#2 complaint - range vs melee
After almost a decade of this game now, this issue is still not resolved.
C'mon already! I've tried both and it is just unbelieveably UNFAIR how easy range classes can level vs a melee. It's just ridiculous.
it was always easier for ranged classes to lvl...in all games, id say 98% games unless game is made only for melee classes
and after they closed Catas its hard for melee to lvl anywhere especially on open fields...and esppecially doing daily quests on open fields...
thats why 80% of server are wiz/archers lol
many will suggest to you : reroll for ranged class and stop qqing
what ill say is : same ))) but, its a game to enjoy and not compete, in someway it is competition, if you here to compete vs. ppls visa/master cards, this game is not for you...
another suggestion is take melee class to other spots, that are not mentioned in the lvl range book that you recieve after getting your 2nd class, or 3rd class or 4th class
and yes totally agree with you on Prophet class, either make him somewhat powerful as WC/OL or remove that useless class from the game, but some ppl still enjoy slow game and stuff, we dont know how popupal PP is in Korea :))) (i know some will say its not popular and we all know why)
#1 complaint - Phophets are absolutely useless in this game.
They level so slow its painful when soloing.
Their buffs have become absolutely useless with ISS now available and MENTEE buffs and CLAN buffs and NEWBIE buffs.
WTF NCSOFT? Either give the Prophet class a workover or get rid of it.
#2 complaint - range vs melee
After almost a decade of this game now, this issue is still not resolved.
C'mon already! I've tried both and it is just unbelieveably UNFAIR how easy range classes can level vs a melee. It's just ridiculous.
Those are my major beefs.
thank you for reading.
1.Prophet's are not useless if you know how to play them,there are million ways to level up,since they're Support class their place is mostly in parties.
2.Range vs Melee is fair,some classes have got Rush skills,some can teleport and much more things,don't mention Awakened Characters,so everything is fair in game as long as you know how to play.
1.Prophet's are not useless if you know how to play them,there are million ways to level up,since they're Support class their place is mostly in parties.
2.Range vs Melee is fair,some classes have got Rush skills,some can teleport and much more things,don't mention Awakened Characters,so everything is fair in game as long as you know how to play.
i think he is just mad, that when he doing the daily quests, all range classes KS him...
and sometimes rush dont help lol...
and you have to admit that this game is not fair on one side of the table, yet completly fair on the other...
#1 complaint - Phophets are absolutely useless in this game.
They level so slow its painful when soloing.
Their buffs have become absolutely useless with ISS now available and MENTEE buffs and CLAN buffs and NEWBIE buffs.
WTF NCSOFT? Either give the Prophet class a workover or get rid of it.
How long did it took to notice this?
And they already got rid of prophet and every other class below 85 :)
i think he is just mad, that when he doing the daily quests, all range classes KS him...
and sometimes rush dont help lol...
and you have to admit that this game is not fair on one side of the table, yet completly fair on the other...
thats life, same story here....and there...
If he is mad at Kill Stealers he should find a party(That means if he still can,everyone is leveled up now),if not,he should make another character if he really hates to go solo with Prophet.
I don't know on what Rush do you mean,but both,Rush Impact and normal Rush are both usefull it will move you toward enemy and than you can do random combo's,that means if you know how,what and when...
Yet i agree that game is unfair on some places and things,same as the life is,but you can find much ways to be successful in this game,just use your brain well,all you need is there... :D
everyone knows that pp is the last class to choose..
as a support char there is a lot better combinations..
i really like evertything about prophet, but with the things since god only to have a full pt random ppl will accept a pp..
If he is mad at Kill Stealers he should find a party(That means if he still can,everyone is leveled up now),if not,he should make another character if he really hates to go solo with Prophet.
I don't know on what Rush do you mean,but both,Rush Impact and normal Rush are both usefull it will move you toward enemy and than you can do random combo's,that means if you know how,what and when...
Yet i agree that game is unfair on some places and things,same as the life is,but you can find much ways to be successful in this game,just use your brain well,all you need is there... :D
I'm on Bartz (was also on the original Bartz).
I started again from scratch after this game came truly free from nothing, about 3 weeks? ago or so...
I have a level 80+ duelist, 76+ prophet and will soon have a 76+ sorcerer.
I have also been playing this game since beta, though I did take a LONG break.
Prophets are useless.
You can see by how non-existant prophets are in this game and no one wants you in the party. Why would they when they can get a WC who is much more common and all over the place?
Prophets can't solo for squat at higher levels.
hit -> STUN -> hit some more -> STUN = BS.
It is not fun to solo a prophet at higher levels and it is EXCRUCIATINGLY SLOW.
In fact it is faster to level the prophet dueled box with my duelist, because it more fun and its faster even with the slower xp (cut in half), in fact I got my prophet to 76 from around 68+ this way.
LOL even the BUFFS that the prophet gives me, though is effective is much slower than if I paid 50 - 75k ISS BUFFS and just have the prophet leech xp while I have it grouped and doing nothing but sit and an occasion heal (yeah the prophet gimped version)
So if you have not played a prophet, please do not comment, because you have no clue how it really is.
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As for Range vs Melee.
My Sorcerer which I just started YESTERDAY will be almost 76+ in a day or two and I play super CASUAL.
Melees have a serious disadvantage in popular xp spots (usually the BEST xp spots).
KS is one of the biggest reasons for quests and for xp gain.
The rate at which a Sorcerer kills is much much much greater than a rate at which any melee will kill, ever.
I'm on Bartz (was also on the original Bartz).
I started again from scratch after this game came truly free from nothing, about 3 weeks? ago or so...
I have a level 80+ duelist, 76+ prophet and will soon have a 76+ sorcerer.
I have also been playing this game since beta, though I did take a LONG break.
Prophets are useless.
You can see by how non-existant prophets are in this game and no one wants you in the party. Why would they when they can get a WC who is much more common and all over the place?
Prophets can't solo for squat at higher levels.
hit -> STUN -> hit some more -> STUN = BS.
It is not fun to solo a prophet at higher levels and it is EXCRUCIATINGLY SLOW.
In fact it is faster to level the prophet dueled box with my duelist, because it more fun and its faster even with the slower xp (cut in half), in fact I got my prophet to 76 from around 68+ this way.
LOL even the BUFFS that the prophet gives me, though is effective is much slower than if I paid 50 - 75k ISS BUFFS and just have the prophet leech xp while I have it grouped and doing nothing but sit and an occasion heal (yeah the prophet gimped version)
So if you have not played a prophet, please do not comment, because you have no clue how it really is.
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As for Range vs Melee.
My Sorcerer which I just started YESTERDAY will be almost 76+ in a day or two and I play super CASUAL.
Melees have a serious disadvantage in popular xp spots (usually the BEST xp spots).
KS is one of the biggest reasons for quests and for xp gain.
The rate at which a Sorcerer kills is much much much greater than a rate at which any melee will kill, ever.
That's what i said,no one wants you in party now since everyone is leveled up.
Yet you can use a dualbox if your computer can support it,since the servers are full as the places for the football match!
And still they can add some skills so the Prophets can be more usefull.
1.Prophet's are not useless if you know how to play them,there are million ways to level up,since they're Support class their place is mostly in parties.
Where they are terrible compared to OL and WC?
Prophets are basically useless right now.
2.Range vs Melee is fair,some classes have got Rush skills,some can teleport and much more things,don't mention Awakened Characters,so everything is fair in game as long as you know how to play.
Melee have had many updates where the end game zones' best XP spots were basically locked out to nukers, as well as other good high level zones. NCSoft had to revamp zones for nukers (like FoG) and the fields they were adding gave terrible XP (Isle of Prayer).
Fields stopped being the best places to XP around Interlude or so, when players really started going beyond 78 in droves.
Swamplands is terrible for any class, ranged or melee. It's only real use seems to be PLing lowbies and to facilitate the daily quest.
That's what i said,no one wants you in party now since everyone is leveled up.
Yet you can use a dualbox if your computer can support it,since the servers are full as the places for the football match!
And still they can add some skills so the Prophets can be more usefull.
1-85 is all about solo. Either the WC/OL is nuking with infinite mana, or the OL is plowing full groups of MOBs with Onslaught at Sel Mahum. OLs can even solo FoG if you know what you're doing and have some gear.
At 78/79+ nukers can chain run the quest on PI.
Prophet has no viable options outside of grouping, and there they are easily outclassed by Orc Buffers who do 10X the DPS due to Drains, Superior Melee Stats + Soul Cry, and MP VR which leaves them with literally infinite mana. Resist buffs are unnecessary when every drain is basically a free Major Heal.
Given the choice between a PP and an OL or WC, a group will almost always take the OL or WC. It's a no brainer. Prophets/Heirophants started disappearing around C5 and by the time the Gracia Final update came 90% of the Live PPs had already quit the game. Those high level PPs that were left either had Constant parties to level them, or boxed DDs to level themselves.
SEs used to be in a similar situation to Prophets up until they got Stigma. Why would anything but a nuker or nuker group take an SE? Poor Pirotesa :-( Lol...
Prophets were always a weak class because they maxed almost all of their DPS buffs in B grade, and could buff everything except Zerk OOP. There was really no reason to even level a prophet past 58 unless you wanted to pwn Olympiad. There was little to no reward for taking it from 58 - 78 except for PoFire (CoV was and continues to be better), Elemental Protection (used to be good, Attribute System indirectly nerfed it), and higher levels of Greater Might/Shield (WC gets those).
Additionally. Buffing on a PP is a PITA and for PvP it was always more efficient to just bring a WC, who could also add a pinch of damage here and there as well.
Prophet was always just a bad ill-designed class. It's as if it was design for the sole purpose of being a dual-boxed class.
There have been some amazing Heirophant players, but those players would have shined ever more if they had played a class that didn't waste so much of their skill and dedication...
I agree 100% about this game being totally unfair to melee chars. Everywhere u go they say its an area for melee, yea right its full of archers and casters. Look at dino land that is for casters only, I have a lvl 86 melee char and u can't melee the dino's there. They need to get some areas that casters can't do any damage at all to the mobs that spawn. Then there might be some balance to this game. I'm so tired of trying to do a quest and u got 10 casters around u that just stand in one spot and keep taking all the mobs and the worse part is all they are doing is grinding they don't even need the darn quests. I and I already know people will reply to this with their smart answers and comments but don't really care. If u aren't a caster or archer char expect to be trying to lvl a long darn time.